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61  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price will make you sad? on: January 12, 2018, 01:53:21 AM
I will get seriously  sad if bitcoin get below $3,000 as it might cause a completely dump of bitcoin and many investors would lose their investment. I have trying to buy bitcoin for a friend at $4,500 and think  is too high when the price fall back to $3,000 area but thank God he have to sold his holding last month at $16,000. I think we should be positive of bitcoin upward movement than were we are today.
Too far , even with the drop to $10,000 it will lead into a chaos , i hope it won't happened, never.
A correction might normal , but a crash mostly people reaction will go mad sometimes a frustation that make they do suicide , hell no.
You should always remember to not invest the money that you cannot afford to lose especially the money that not belong to you.
62  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you behave yourself when selling? on: January 12, 2018, 01:33:16 AM
It really depends on all the information you have on that particular coin. If I think a massive sell of will happen, and that price is probably a good one, and I will sell it. If in a later time I think it will go up again, I will just buy the dip, and I'm making profit. If I think there is no reason for the price to go down, and it's the market doing it's normal cycles, then I will just hold it. For instance, bitcoin price is dropping a lot these days, and I sold a few at $14k, I am now waiting for an opportunity to buy them back again.
That's true , it is conditional actually . When you confident enough to predict the price will continue to grow then why you have to sell it at low?
Just set the sell position at the highest one , that's the reasonable one to make profit.
Otherwise you can easily do an arbitrage trading , just move your coin into an exchange that have higher price.
63  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED on: January 12, 2018, 01:12:11 AM
I noticed that 1xbit.com is on the list on second post. That site have an open accusation here in bitcointalk last year and I think it doesn't resolved yet*.

Do you consider removing it even there are votes or you will stick to the "user generated" ideas? (Well other sites too had an open scam accusation anyways).

That's why we have meanings for the scores. 1xbit.com has 4 votes, (5; 1; 3; 3,5). So that vote with 1 point represents just that.
Reading the meaning of the scores in the OP you have:
[1]   - Means that you don't trust the SportsBook, and you think users should stay away from it

So the scam accusation is represented here. The problem is that right now I only show the average of all votes, so that vote with [1] point gets mixed in with the rest, and that is wrong. I already have planned to show the % of votes for each category, but I still haven't found time to implement it. When that update is done, users will see that 1xbit has:

25% of the votes in the scam category
25% of the votes in the neutral category
25% of the votes in the good category
25% of the votes in the excellent category

If I was checking this table I would still be very cautious with this site because the votes are very divided, and there is a scam report.
Of course it wouldn't mean much since there are only 4 votes, but there is a scam alert so I would be cautious.

So yes, I will keep every site that gets a vote in these tables, but I will do my best to show what the votes actually mean. Also if we have more votes, the ranks will also be more accurate.

Another vote for NitrogenSports @ 5. Still haven't experienced any problem to them. My recent withdrawals goes into smooth phase without any problem about confirmation.

And another one, OneHash @ 3. I talked to one of their customer support via Live Chast (I forgot the name) and he is really nice and gived detailed info to my concern.

Thank you for your votes, and don't forget that you can vote for more bookies anytime you want, or change your current votes if your opinion ever changes.
Noone interested to make a review about 1xbet , which means .... they know the site are so clear have a shady operation.
They avoid it so no wonder there only few reviewer lol , but let me add this as a review i have 0.009 there and not able to cash it out since last year , small amount and they still take it , funny fruegreads really Cheesy .
Cloudbet getting better and i can say they have a lot of live betting that basically what i looking for . I will upgrade my rate for them to 4.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I have only 200€ to invest on: January 12, 2018, 12:59:15 AM
Hello Im new on this forum, can you help me to choose good coin for me? I have only 200€ to spend, I was thinking about ETH/LTC but is it worth when I have only 200? Or should I try my luck with something cheap.
buy DENT coin,team is very active,they regularly updating their road map  among us.I did a great profit from dent coin.you can also hold dent coin.
A strange and new coin with good development yeaaa it could be a an option but of course with the high risk.
As you will receive unexpected crazy profit as a return if the project successfully running.
But if the project goes down failed , you have to be ready your 200 euro disappeared for nothing.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Gambler's way on: January 12, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
YOLO is a good strategy if you ask me. I like your way of thinking. Personally, I do not believe in luck. The latter is commonly known because people do not want to assume their responsibilities. So if I got, for example, a bad mark on an exam, I would be like " I was unlucky."

Gambling does require decision making skills. It is not easy to make a wise and valid decision that you will not regret. It also requires internal skills that are related to making good strategies, and so on. And even if I lost, I would blame myself for losing because I made myself lose.
Yolo isn't a strategy for me lol , it is a form of desperate yeaaa that's what i can see and feel.
As i have experienced it several times , get the losing streaks and decide to bet the whole amount.
In the end it is all about luck , not really a strategy, i don't believe on something like that
66  Economy / Speculation / Re: DON'T PANIC. HOLD YOUR BITCOIN. on: January 11, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
I can feel 1T marketcap after this bloodbath this is exactly not the time to sell any of your altcoin. A massive jump in cryptocurrency market is coming soon👍
Some people have an idea to keep holding no matter what , i won't blame it.
I just think that there is an opportunity to buy in very low price and gain more when you decide to make a cut loss.
Well we might have different opinion about that , but the same purpose to make profit , so choose whatever the best and fit for you.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Trading Gambling? on: January 11, 2018, 09:56:55 AM
I think no trading is not gambling because when you bet you will received an amount equivalent to what you bet but in trading the rate or amount of return is not specific also trading is regulated while gambling is not. What was same with this two is that both will require taking chances and the risk that you either lose whatever amount of capital you have.
That is what mostly people think about trading , it gives you a return even you lost it.
No wonder as trading is a good way and reasonable business compared to gambling.
People know that trading with proper analysis won't feel like gambling , it is a real opportunity to get profit steady.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Volatility A Bad Thing? on: January 11, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
To be honest yes it is. Bitcoin price shifts of over 20 per cent are largely because of any news. CME and CBOE will list bitcoin futures? Price up by 30 per cent. Their trading volumes were lower than expected? Price falls by 20 per cent. There is because is a new currency. Made in 2009, just after the US housing financial crisis. It has yet to survive any sort of crisis. This creates lack of faith, in it makes it fragile. Older the currency, less volatile it is.
That's why some people prefer to use bitcoin as an investment rather than as a currency.
Volatile never be a good thing to used by a lot of people especially those people who have no idea about this fintech stiff.
A little bit pessimistic really that bitcoin could be the future of currency.
69  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Transfer My Entire Savings to Cryptocurrencies? on: January 11, 2018, 09:11:05 AM
Pls don't. Use stocks as a hedge. Maybe you can balance both portfolios. Do 60% crypto 40% stocks or whichever fits you. Better than missing some profits, you'll also miss some huge losses too. Or better stock up some fiat in savings, too. Everytime BTC corrects, you can rebalance your portfolio easily that way.

Fomo always make people act like greedy , you need to be wise to spread it instead do allin.
But of course it is your own money and if you think you can be responsible on any action you make to take that high risk , why not?
It gives you a big potential return , as long as you aware about the scheme where your whole money could disappeared in crypto!
70  Economy / Speculation / Re: How low will bitcoin go? on: January 11, 2018, 08:28:16 AM
About this I just thinking the price wouldn't be more down than $12k. Yeah it's just my knowledge only, from the facts indeed like it is.. it's proven at the times of declining so far the price is not going down till passed $12k.
Actually after I'm reviewing.. the price can't stay away from the price that was last reached, I think it will continuesly experiencing like that forever I guess, and it still high possibility it still tends lead to $20k journey, despite accompanied by some phases of declines at certain times.
That's true , but guess what will happened when it goes down below $12,000 ?
Just prepare for the real crash and set your cut loss position , bitcoin always be a high risk investment yeaaa people forgot about that.
Some people says that before it moving up there should be a little flash drop , is this the time? Not sure actually .
71  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My dice site is not worth? on: January 11, 2018, 08:18:22 AM
Bloody coinhive (eliminated by AVG) ... I hate admins using these hidden ways to earn money from visitors.

BTT As said above, the site is simple, quite ugly and lot like a bitdice. Could not explore more because of above said.


Fair enough to criticize like that considering it is really terrible way to clone and sell it to those people who know nothing about the script building.
Honestly i don't know if he was looking to sell it because he bought the script from the 3rd party , or he aware about the site made by clonising other site.
One thing i believe , noone will take that price tag seriously , it sounds like a joke , better to do by yourself to clone certain site with some tutorials Cheesy.
72  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Tips for Beginners on: January 11, 2018, 08:01:03 AM
It is just like a battle of mind and heart and mind over matter. A gamble in which you would take all the risk for higher profit. Something that is usual for an adult mind and unusual for daily basis. A brave heart and mind is the best peiece of advice for traders.
Besides technical skills indeed you need psychology power to make you always in positive mind.
It is really produce a positive action , believe it or not just try it out when you do trade with a lot of life problem it will lead you into a rush decision.
Really matter when it comes to getting ready physically and mentally, then you can go to learn more about the technical.
73  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: January 11, 2018, 07:46:18 AM
yes,for me experiences does matter when it comes to gambling because you do not know what is the best strategy to gamble when you know nothing

In an skill based gambling yes we can say that experience can lead us to have some edge while we are playing, but with luck based games we don't need such things as the result will just be the same no matter how hard we tried to use each experience that we have, its still depend on how lucky you are to win some against the house.

Exactly, experience can be used on skilled based gambling games like sports betting and even poker and not the luck based ones which are just based on chance and pure luck like slots and dice which you have no direct input into determining the outcome of the game.
Yeaaa i just cannot imagine how a game such as dice or slot could really affected by your own experience to win.
All i know that any kind games is required luck , experience just an excuse actually.
An excuse for anyone to think that you have won it because your experience , but you cannot prove it.

Of course experience matters. It makes all of the difference between losing a little, and losing a lot. lol

For example in craps there are like a hundred different bets and some of them are just terrible. Like you barely win if you win and the chances to win are very low. The highest paying bet (fire bet) in craps is actually the lowest winning percentage and the worst bet.
Aaaand which part makes your experience affaected the outcome whether you will win it or lost it? Lol.
There only one thing matter in gambling and that is the lucky time where noone knows when it could happened.
Then you better gamble only the amount you can afford to lose , wishing it gives you luck to win and not for earning profit steady.
74  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins Next Stop $50,000 on: January 09, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
This view is very optimistic , there is stock market fluctuation however in the future maybe 30K...
Very optimistic mind tells that $50,000 but we still can't tell if that will happen or not. I'm only good when bitcoin hits $20,000 at the very end of this year and if gets higher then that's another price to thank for it's increase. As of now it's struggling and having hard time to get back to $16,000.
Speculation are just a speculation , i cannot see the fundamentals about this so far.
The price might could increase a little bit with the lightning network planned ahead.
I just doubt it could move up that high , not enough news to support it to make people become more greedy to invest  Grin
75  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: where do you get your predictions? on: January 09, 2018, 05:23:11 PM
There are several ways to get predictions. Either from your experience in trading or groups related to trading. You can find experienced experts of that field who predict the future of any cryptocurrency price. Added to that, you can have your own research and come up with your own prediction.

Trading is not easy at all. It includes taking risks, having an experience as well as experiencing failure because without the latter, you cannot succeed.
Making your own research by looking for some latest news about crypto that might could affected the future price.
Keep doing that until you find the guts , just looking at the charts and you know what to do.
Yeaaaa practice make perfect so do it until things looks so easy to make an accurate prediction.
76  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people keep trying new casinos? on: January 09, 2018, 05:08:52 PM
As gambling is a game of luck, people keep trying new casinos to find their luck. Every casinos have different styles and strategies. In this way also they would know where they'll be more comfortable to play. It would be better this way also to learn new strategies from different casinos and meet with different players as well. Its like honing your gambling skills.
That's true , people tend to looking for luck but ended up with addiction.
Then you prefer to not do that , indeed there's no harm to give a shot but considering the impact caused it is not good.
Just stick to one place so you won't get lured by various offers that basically leading to destruction.
77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fair online casino? on: January 09, 2018, 04:40:45 PM
I think giving trust in casino is very easy especially if yoi have account in that site and was able to play and withdraw your earnings like me I play in bustadice and I am really confident it pays whatever winnings I will have in fact I already withdraw three times with  an average of $30 dollars each and so far all of them was transacted very timely and reliable
Not always , sometimes a site allows small amout to cashed out , but then when it comes to huge amount they hold it.
Until at some point they ready to launch the scam operation with huge amount of money held.
Seriously you should becareful on choosing which one you should to be trusted , just look at every factors available , not just a single factor.
78  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: January 09, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
that's a bad idea, putting all the money you have on BTC will make a huge loss in your life. but if you have been convinced with good market prediction capability please eat it to do it.
High risk and high probabilty to get a huge profit , there's nothing wrong with it actually.
Just the matter are you ready to lost the whole amount? As for me personally when it comes to high risk investment i have to be ready to lost it all.
So i won't say it is wrong for sure , it is just a decision that woth the risk.
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: January 09, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Its like asking why do some people need to smoke? To satisfy their body with the nicotine they are addicted to. Same reason for gambling. People gamble to satisfy their gambling addiction. They feel like something is missing in their life when they don't gamble and gets an urge to gamble as soon as possible. The satisfaction they get from quick wins is what makes them addicted to gambling.

Yeaaa it is always hard to deny that gambling makes you so comfort to make profit .
You might feel there's nothing wrong at first but as time goes by you will know that you have got addiected without you realized before.
Actually you don't have any excuse to start to gamble , it comes just like that.
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins would it take for you to Quit Gambling Forever? on: January 09, 2018, 08:04:47 AM
I wouldn't quit gambling completely even if I won the JackPot biggest prize, because I don't play exclusively for profit and to become rich, but to have some fun. The difference is that after winning a big prize I wouldn't gamble online anymore, I would travel to the nice cities in the world to play on the land based casinos there with all confort I could have. Those playing to become rich will become poorer than they are now.
And those playing trying to feel rich while doing so will become really poor as well, if I won any kind of big jackpot I will not gamble anymore and invest that money and live out of my investments for the rest of my life that way I will not have to ever worry about money again.
It's not bad to play like you're rich but what's worse is that you're rich but you are not humble or brags in front of everyone about it. What's worse is that you play like a rich person but that's the only money you got left, you would lose everything and be broke after playing. I hope I would have that kind of investment that would set me up for life.
Gambling for the sake of making money will never has a good ending strory for sure.
Let's say you set a target like when you have achieved 500 bitcoin from gambling as a prize you will leave it forever.
That is bullshit , i doubt you can realize it since you have a wrong mindset about gambling itself.
I think if you are real gambler the purpose why you do gambling it is because you want a quick profit from it, where they are trying to make money through seeking a huge prize from any kind of online gambling. I think that guy that you are quoting for is just pretending of being a rich man from the front of everyone. I don't have idea why is acting like that, maybe he just  wants to get the sympathy of everyone.
Sometimes a real gambler could be defined as the one who did not looking for money but thrill in the game.
Those people who looking for quick profit in the long run are the one who think they can become a professional player.
There is someone who called a pro player indee , but guess how much they are? Not much of course as they know it is not worth.
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