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601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2021, 11:36:00 PM
This is not yet another cycle, this is the End of Cycles

The one where after BTC flippens gold it doesn't flip back

The one where web3 supercedes web2

Where culture is collected and accrued digitally instead of physically

Where life is lived mindfully rather than mindlessly

https://twitter.com/zhusu/status/1363035740507017216

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At first it sounded bearish to me, until I unerstood what is meant. Since its creation Bitcoin went through several severe bear periods between the halvings. But what if the mass adoption has increased so much  that no such bear periods of 80%+ crashes from tha last ATH are possible? We see the first sign for that - unlike any other period of 12 months, there was only one 30% correction and two 20% corrections. What if this is a sign that such long periods of lack of interest from the big investors  are no longer possible? The implications on any sell strategy involving considerations of the previous cycles will be hugely negative. I mean if someone is selling with the hope of buying 80% cheaper, this may turn to be a total disaster with some 30-40% dips occurring here and there. Not only that, but this will make any unnecessary major sell from our stash to be a big mistake. This tweet predicts more than a supercycle, rather an infitite bull market. Well, this may look unrealistic now, but certainly the probability for that is not 0 as some may think based on previous experience. And sometimes the past experience may be misleading.

I don't buy it, but hey whatever... there is a chance for anything to happen..

My overall thinkenings continue to be that bitcoin no doesn't work like dat... and I am not even trying to be stubbornly caught up in the already existing models, but there still seems to be more evidence to the currently credible three existing models rather than proposing some new model that may or may not end up playing out.

... at some point we will reach the end of cycles, unlikely to be this one but if it is it will be a mega rollercoaster pump to $800k+ then plateau and consolidation with bear market correction of no more than 30%, followed by years of continuous stable growth

... a steep S-curve adoption (hyperbitcoinisation) is still not off the table either but that would likely mean a catastrophic implosion of fiat system and total financial chaos with much economic destruction, better if this played out over a decade or two instead

... the mining of new coins (new supply) is still a material fraction of the total inflow and increases with increasing fiat price, but eventually (soon?) it will become insignificant as inflows outstrip new supply even as the price is increasing ... at which point the halving cycles will only be an echo

... already consuming ~0.5% of global energy production and increasing, it's likely that bitcoin may also run into material energy limits that the market is willing to afford for securing our bitcoin monetary system, or it may incentivise energy production globally in out-of-the-way places and new energy technologies, in the same way it now incentivises chip innovation and manufacturing
602  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2021, 04:57:32 PM
Saifedan A. talks with M. Saylor
603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2021, 04:32:52 PM
It seems like some millionaire-billionaire is pumping our favorite sh!tcoin meme again...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

... corny shitcoin memes

 Dickhead, fuck off with your shitcoin fuckery.
604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2021, 04:29:25 PM


What's wrong with mainstream media ? Are they falsely reporting these opinion about bitcoin  Huh

... this is the usual brain-dead, half-baked disinformation spin soundbite we all expect from MSM

... less than 1% of the population control the vast majority of the wealth.

... it's not what percentage are going to buy bitcoin but which percentage

... bitcoin is an extremely rare opportunity for people of modest means to take a slice of the future wealth, unfortunately it seems like very few will

... politcians are generally mediocre idiots
605  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2021, 02:34:44 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/johns-hopkins-prof-sees-us-herd-immunity-april-fauci-fearmongers-2022-return-normality

Data suggests US has already achieved herd immunity to covid
606  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2021, 02:23:23 AM


56k and rocking it!
607  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2021, 02:19:59 AM
At $57,600 the price will have doubled in less than a month.

Going from past experience this usually leads to doubling again in about half that time, and then another.

My theory is that the doublings decrease each time.

There's probably TA based around that but I just go by that.

... it's not a theory or TA, you're simply describing an exponential (power law) curve.
608  Economy / Economics / Re: Estimating the energy/power consumption of the Bitcoin Network on: February 18, 2021, 09:18:43 AM
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This scales by BTC price so:

BTC at $500,000 means power consumption would trend to 3.8% of worldwide power.

BTC at $5,000,000 means power consumption would trend to 38% of worldwide power.
   

... these numbers are only valid for era=3 though right?

What might be interesting is to hold the ~0.37% of global energy constant (assuming a total energy cost market is willing to pay for 'bitcoin security') and use to estimate different prices for future eras.
609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2021, 08:54:49 AM
Now everyone wants to embed in Bitcoin, I knew this day would come, little by little those who never believed begin to accept Bitcoin.

Bitcoin soars to new high above $52,000; sustainability concerns rise



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Anthony Scaramucci, founder and managing partner of hedge fund SkyBridge Capital and former communications director under the Donald Trump administration, also told CNBC in Wednesday he sees bitcoin hitting $100,000 per unit before the year ends, citing supply and demand. SkyBridge is also invested in bitcoin.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-soars-to-new-high-above-52-000-sustainability-concerns-rise-11613617486410.html

BlackRock manages $8.7 Trillion,  that's one company having 9market caps of BTC, they can single handedly add another 0 to the current price

1% of 8.7trillion is 87billion
610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2021, 11:00:51 PM
The point is, comparing things/events from the past to one of current time (and the future), which are not even very similar, is just wrong in most cases.
I mean: Tulips? REALLY?!

EDIT: Bitcoin is the first real counterweight for fiat money. How can somebody, even a so called "expert" even compare this to the irregularly crazy tulip mania?

Stupid questions: I've always wondered... How did the owners keep their tulips in good condition? Weren't they worried that they may dry out and die? How long can a tulip even last?

I would be very worried if I had to take care of my Bitcoins like plants. You know, water them, get them out in the sun, protect them from pests, feed them with nutrients... Hard work! Fortunately, my Trezor and/or paper seed backups don't need anything to survive, not even power. Maintenance-free forever!

Maybe a tuliptologist has an answer for this. But onions for example hold also a long time if proper stored... I think...

... tulips garlic and onions all have bulbs that are perennial. Garlic and onions are alliums and the dried bulbs can last 12-18 months at the extreme in perfect storage conditions.

... the tulib bulb mania was to do with the speculative frenzy that came about when derivatives were invented to hedge/gamble on which bulbs would be in fashion for the next growing season.

tulip flowers produce new bulbs at their base at the end of the flowering season and there is always, still today, a robust fluctuating market in different bulbs based on the colours, stripes, size, etc of the flowers .... a lot like shitcoins

someone figured out how to sell futures on rare fashionable tulip bulbs around the same time there was a general speculative mania in dutch coffee houses share trading from governments creating easy free money while experimenting with fiat money ... sound familiar?
611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2021, 08:31:45 PM
perfect. I especially like how the hastily added zeroes are glitching, fits the ethos of the gif and btc!!

Better


612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2021, 01:16:06 AM
If anything I'm the screw up in the family so wouldn't be worried about getting fiat back. My sister makes more money than me, however she works in Paris and wants a flat not too far, so that's around 10000€ for 1 square meter of living space...

My parents were both public servants so yeah, pretty socialists !

I wouldn't give a single sat to anyone who doesn't deserve it, especially family members. I'd say "get on your bike and work for it."

No free lunch for anyone.

... it's not just the "free lunch" thing giving money to people who are not expecting it can literally ruin there lives.

... like the "lottery effect" where the majority of lotto winners end up broke or back where they were in not so many years, some even ruined by drugs, alcohol, gambling or divorce after large amounts of dough comes unexpectedly into their lives.

... money and wealth needs to be handled responsibly or it can create as much ruination and unhappiness as happiness

... i heard stories from a friend where he gave money to all his family from some new wealth, .... a niece who was only experimenting with drugs up until then developed a hardcore meth habit, his father left his mother for gold-digger young plastic bitch, his brother shutdown a thriving construction company employing lots of good young fellas and instead went to playboy mode and terribly playing at training racehorses to gamble on .... and on and on

... try not to kill them with kindness, a hand up maybe ...
613  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 11:10:37 PM
614  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 11:03:27 PM
... mind virus of holding bitcoin on corporate balance sheet has spread to Europe, 1 case in recorded in Germany

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cannabis/21/02/19682496/synbiotic-se-becomes-the-first-publicly-traded-company-in-germany-to-hedge-against-euro-currency

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Given the excessive increase in money supply in both the euro and USD zones, there is legitimate concern about a massive devaluation of fiat money. The cannabis company SynBiotic SE (XETRA; ISIN: DE000A2LQ777 / WKN: A2LQ77) is therefore set to become the first listed company in Germany to hedge against the devaluation of the euro with bitcoin. Hence, SynBiotic SE has started to shift some of its free liquidity into bitcoin.

SynBiotic SE CEO Lars Müller says of the decision: "Our decision focused less on price fluctuations than the risk of devaluation of euro and dollar. Bitcoin is the exact antithesis of traditional currencies: its volume is limited to 21 million units. This limit is fixed and inviolable, which the cryptocurrency‘s decentralized organization and the blockchain‘s tamper-proof nature in turn guarantees. For this reason, we have more long-term confidence in bitcoin than in euros or dollars, where a central institution, influenced by politicians, can expand the money supply immeasurably. In addition, the cannabis sector in particular has had very positive experiences with bitcoin as a simple and digital means of payment. Several SynBiotic subsidiaries already accept payments in bitcoin in addition to payments in euros."
615  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c9mr3FZtKXA

Bitcoin is luv  Grin Grin

She must be high
616  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 08:35:18 PM
next move up is setting up to be quite explosive again.

the bull flag upward pennant beneath 50k looks strong and if it's right about the exchanges getting cleaned out of corn .... well the only resolution to lack of corn is higher prices
617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
I'm not really sure if "taking profits" in fiat can really be considered correct phraseology any longer.
I don't think you guys are getting just how far gone the current fiat banking systems are. It's like saying taking profits in Zimbabwe dollars, or taking profits in Venezuelan bolivars, argentine pesos ... at some point it's nonsensical to talk about taking profits if you're buying a higher risk devaluing asset


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618  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 03:30:26 AM
 ... 1337 days to be precise, all 1337 hOdlerS know this
619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 03:17:48 AM
... 50k is being lined up for another pounding
620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2021, 02:41:51 AM
... hybrid are cute and maybe interesting but a bit dinky too tbh ... you can get a 8-10 kW cummins diesel generator AND a RAM 6.7l cummins diesel turbo 4x4 truck for the same money  Grin Grin Cheesy


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