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621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: September 05, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you?

A typical statement of a bully.

Let's picture another environment. Somebody comes into your home, ties you to a chair and starts pulling teeth, asking for all your money and for the location of your children so they can sell them to a brothel. You refuse and they ask the question you are asking. How many more teeth you have to lose before you give up? We can start cutting fingers too, how many more fingers until you start considering our proposal?


How many Russians have to die before they decide to go back home?


Fresh Russian joke. Grin
Putin calls Sunnak:
This is already funny. You should tell that in Ukraine and they'll be laughing after the first sentence.

Oh, I think they got the conversation wrongly translated:

Putin: Hi Rishi, how many tanks did you send to Ukraine in total?
Rishi: 24 in total
Putin: Mmm strange, reports from my most loyal generals indicate we have destroyed 20 with a "precision strike", 10 more with drones, 85 with artillery fire and another 100 just throwing rocks at them. I have the suspicion that the figures from the drone operators may be inflated.


Much better than the original. Here's my attempt:

Putin meets with Lukashenko
-Hey Vlad, how many votes did you get in the last election? I had over 90%!
-110% my friend. Even unborn children vote for me.

622  Economy / Gambling / Re: Richy.casino - iGaming & Sports Betting. 💰up to $20k deposit bonus, free spins on: September 05, 2023, 04:00:33 PM
I'm not allowed in, but good luck with your business. Not going to risk it with a VPN.

Out of curiosity, if you allow VPN use, how are you going to know if the account got stolen or not? Casinos usually don't allow people to use these services because it allows them to monitor the IPs and lock withdrawals if they're made from a different location than the one a player registered from. This may become an issue for you later on.
623  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: vave.com - is a scammers & nationalists on: September 04, 2023, 02:34:39 PM
Regarding the absence of this information in the Russian version of our Terms and Conditions, we kindly direct your attention to the following page: https://vave.com/ru/help/sportsbook-rules Section 2.18 states: "In the event of a discrepancy between the English language version of these rules and any other language version, the English language version shall prevail."

We hope this explanation clarifies the situation, and we remain dedicated to providing a gaming experience that is fair and transparent for all of our users.

It doesn't. Why add translations if they can confuse users? Can't do it right? Then don't to it, don't offer translations!

Imagine this situation happening with a user instruction of a tool.
You translate it to a number of languages. In one it says the item can be operated in high moisture and rain, in the english section it says it cannot. The user reads only his native version and gets electrocuted.
Who do you think is going to win in court? You, because you had a verse in the English instruction saying all mistakes in other sections don't count, or the guy's family claiming damages?

I advise OP to go to court over this because mistakes in translation that lead to misuse of the site shouldn't be blamed on the user and he shouldn't pay for it.
624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction on: September 01, 2023, 07:01:21 PM
I've heard of gambling tournaments where you don't have to pay anything to enter.

I've also heard of poker tournaments where gamblers pay a small fee and then are given large sums of money to play at the casino, to see how it feels like playing at high roller tables, being able to take 10k bets with 100k on the table. If you're lucky and get to the top 3, you get some real prizes like casino credit.

I've never heard of social tournaments, but it's probably another name for similar thing.
625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Prime Trust's bankruptcy due to forgotten seed/private key on: September 01, 2023, 06:51:57 PM
In the famous words of the Sith Lord: Good, good!
Less bitcoins on the market.

They've got tons of customers and money on their custody and they just lost it. Maybe a planned exit? or just truly negligence of its owners.

That's the sad part. I bet these people had no idea what they were buying. They watched CNBC for a while and googled how to get bitcoin easy without a risk of being hacked or scammed... so they got someone who could do it for them and... that's how they got scammed.

Yes, I think that it was a scam. There's no way someone would start a bitcoin company without knowing how to create backups.
That said, Karpeles changed Magic the Gathering card trading site into a bitcoin exchange and scammed everyone, so shit sure happens in this industry.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Behaviours of gamblers you dislike. on: September 01, 2023, 06:38:41 PM
There's really a lot of it. I don't like people who beg and try to borrow money from strangers in physical casinos, although they often get kicked out for such behavior. I don't like people who are being too loud and all that. I know some of my friends who can't control emotions when they lose and when we decide to bet on a match and watch it and they happen to lose, they make the whole evening sour for us all. They can't get over it even though it's just a few bucks.

The problems people face when they lose are one of the main reasons why online gambling is taking over the world.
627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beginners, you don't need Bitcoin first on: September 01, 2023, 06:28:23 PM
Begging others to get bitcoin is bad, just as selling your house for that reason, but I feel like we're talking about extremes here. Just as it's not a good idea to borrow money to gamble, or to invest with high leverage, it's also not a good idea to be sitting on millions in fiat money and not getting even a single bitcoin.

I feel like the advice given by OP, although good, is very obvious to any grown up, responsible investor. I feel like it's aimed towards teenagers for whom bitcoin is their first investment ever.
628  Economy / Economics / Re: Which problem will you choose to solve? on: August 31, 2023, 07:57:46 PM
but is easier to solve a rich man's problem than solving the poor cases since with the rich you have money as a tool to work with in solving the problem

I think it's easier to solve the problems of a poor person than to solve the problems of a rich person. For a problem to be a problem that Money can't solve then that problem is pretty big.
Most, if not all the problems of the poor can be solved by money.

What comes to my mind after reading this is that most problems of the poor could be solved by the rich. If the rich started solving poor people's problems, maybe one of those poor people would be able to return the favor. It happens that the poor are often smart, they have able bodies, they can work their way up, but they weren't given the opportunity, weren't raised in a proper way.

Money doesn't solve the problems of the world but it certainly helps in putting things on the right track.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has your Responsible Gambling had any of these Effects on You? on: August 31, 2023, 07:47:54 PM
In my case it did not help me in any way. The only positive aspect of it is not losing more money than I could.

I haven't made a lot for money, haven't had relationship problems, haven't been depressed over gambling or any other thing. I'm not really making money out of it, but I do it for fun and try to keep things in check. I'm not losing too much and I'm not making enough to live off it, but the feeling of winning from time to time is what I like and why I keep doing it.
630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When to invest in bitcoin on: August 31, 2023, 07:33:46 PM
I was willing to buy bitcoin immediately the price drop but the challenge i have them was I'm  not with cash, but I will be waiting until the price fall again, and if it fall again I will not miss the opportunity of buying bitcoin and keep for long term investment

There are people who wanted 10k bitcoin last year and are still waiting for it now. Don't be like them.

The problem with people who wait for crashes is that when the actual crash happens they either buy very early and then get scared of it going down and sell, or they keep on waiting and waiting and then it bounces back and they feel like the opportunity is lost and never end up buying.

Don't act like a trader when you're not one. Just buy and hold. Eventually it's going to be worth more than it is now.

The best time to buy bitcoin was in 2009, but if you missed that, the next best time is now.
631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC go above $30,000? on: August 31, 2023, 07:20:21 PM
According to Analyst Crypto Tony, BTC prices are forecasted to hover within the $29,400 to $29,500 range for the week ahead. However, a bullish uptick is foreseen on August 20, 2023, with the possibility of breaching the $30,000 mark. Recent months have demanded substantial bullish forces to overcome these thresholds, hinting at an impending resurgence in Bitcoin's volatility.

Another example of how these forecasters know nothing. He predicted an uptick and got the opposite. I don't follow anyone and I don't watch any of these predictions because they're usually wrong, whatever they say. The only thing that seems to be consistent with these guys is that the ones that scream the loudest are usually the worst.

I think that speed of getting to a higher amount have dropped drastically and I don't think getting to $30k as expected by the end of this month is going to be possible because to me it looks like it will only be going up to let me say $28k and back to $25k.
For Bitcoin to rise to $30k or more than with this current dip I think is going to be in October or better still by November.

It takes very little to make bitcoin go to 30k because of a very limited number of coins on exchanges. It's the lowest since the 2018-19 bear market, and since that date we've mined more bitcoin and established more exchanges, so just think of how many now hodlers had to take their coins offline. We could literally go to 30k in an hour if a large buyer came in.
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lessons Taken from Previous Bull Markets: How Will Your Approach Change? on: August 30, 2023, 07:29:01 PM
It's going to be my third bull market and I'm not planning to do anything different.

I've accumulated a decent amount of bitcoin and I'm not going to give it away until I find something to do with it, meaning some other investment, a business, something that I want to buy.
The difference between bull and bear markets in my case is how I handle my spending. In bear market I accumulate and hold. I spend fiat money and don't touch my bitcoins unless I really have to.
In bull market I look for things to buy. If there was something coming, like a house repair, or appliances that need to be changed, I'll do it then. If I need a new car, I'll buy it in the bull market. That's basically it.
633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will the bitcoiners realize bitcoin is just fiat with enforced tax on: August 30, 2023, 07:06:28 PM
When will the bitcoiners realize bitcoin is just fiat with more steps on a transparent ledger with enforced tax aka network fee. When your nation legalizes it like canada you will pay network fee and tax on top, such wow.


The main difference between bitcoin and fiat in this matter is that when you hold fiat you're taxed for the coins stored every single year. The network fee doesn't "tax" you for storing bitcoin, only for moving it around. This means that in 10 years, with the average 5% yearly inflation, you'll have 50% less purchasing power, while bitcoin, even if its growth stops completely (I don't think it will) you'll have the same purchasing power, minus a small network fee which is just ridiculous compared to banking fees.

To give you a perspective, PayPal charges 3% per transaction, so if you want to buy a phone for 1k, you have to pay $30 in fees. Sending the same amount with bitcoin is going to cost you less than $2.

What's with the "such wow"? Are you a dogecoiner?
634  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet - account closure request not satisfacted on: August 30, 2023, 06:54:38 PM
So what is the self-exclusion process? Is there a tutorial for it? I wasn't informed that I should had follow any different process at all.
My account was closed after it - so I believe it was well received. No? Do they have any other self-exclusion types? I can't find any on their terms, can you?
They didn't inform my account was permanently closed. Also, is that part of your "tutorial"?


Let's see what Wiki has to say about it :

In areas that have enacted self-exclusion policies, an individual who is aware that they suffer from a gambling problem can voluntarily request that their name be added to the self-exclusion list. If their application is accepted, the person in question becomes legally banned from all participating casinos within the self-exclusion coverage area. If a person who has been added to the self-exclusion list enters or attempts to enter a casino that participates in the self-exclusion program, they can be arrested and charged with trespassing.[1] In addition, any chips, tokens, credits or other winnings in their possession at the time of arrest can be confiscated or invalidated.

The participant must complete the form voluntarily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-exclusion

The problem with your case is, you've never requested to be excluded. You've requested the account to be closed, which doesn't block you from using the casino. A gambler can for instance think his account is unlucky, or doesn't like the name, and wants it to be closed. This doesn't stop him from making a new account, or later reopening the old one.

You admit that you've never asked to the self-exclusion list, or that you're closing the account because you're an addict.
635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BlackRock wants to reduce the price of Bitcoin on: August 29, 2023, 04:53:36 PM
I think that they were focusing on other branches.

BlackRock has recently invested in Riot Platforms Inc, Marathon Digital Holdings, Cipher Mining Inc and Terawulf Inc, which are 4 biggest mining companies.
If they are doing it, it means they know the industry is going to explode after next halving, which will coincide with a possible ETF approval.

I'm, not saying it's impossible for them to influence the price to get more bitcoin, but I feel like they have a lot to lose by "playing Musk" and saying they'd open ETF and then trying to dump everything to crash levered investors.

I feel like this recent dump was Bad news from China > Stocks sold off > Investors sold bitcoin to cover positions in stocks > Moved bitcoin below MA200 and caused a liquidation spike.
636  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet - account closure request not satisfacted on: August 29, 2023, 04:37:14 PM
I am a bit confused on reading your whole story. At one point of time you asked them to close the account and then you requested them to reopen and they reopened it. So is there any issue with it ?

Now what do you want ? The deposit which you made after the reopening of account to be refunded ? Did you play at the casino after reopening and lost the amount/bets ? Or you did not play and the deposit are still there in your account ?

It's simple.

OP wanted his account closed but did not say it's a responsible gambling or self-exclusion case. Just wanted it locked. This may happen due to someone else having access to that computer and OP being at risk of someone logging in, or because his wife found out that he was gambling and was about to try if he has an active account? There can be many different reasons for asking that.

Then OP wanted it to be reopened and it was.

Now OP claims the casino wasn't trying to help him maintain addiction.

I'd call the complaint is baseless and OP will not get any support from the community and the casino.
The only thing this conversation proves is that Cloudbet's support is active and reacting to customer's requests.
637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is not going to $12k. on: August 29, 2023, 04:24:30 PM
Recently, there has been a lot of speculation about bitcoin dropping to 12k$-8k$ before the bull season arrives and I stumbled across this article. I want to know what you guys think and why you believe bitcoin will not drop to 12k$.

Only a lot if you read the wrong sources. There's a few short sellers who want to spread this FUD that we're going to get a new bottom because they want it to happen.

What I've learned over the years is that there's a group of people who call themselves analysts, but in reality they're influencers. It's all these dudes who publish videos and try to sell courses or VIP tickets where they'll supposedly give you more data and real trades to follow. These people are actually bad traders. If they were good they'd make money this way because by taking a good long or short position you can make 2x more than once a month. They prefer to sell you courses for 1k because it's a sure gain. Why wouldn't they leverage that 1k and make 2k in a single trade? Because they have no idea where the market is going, but nothing stops them from selling their bullshit.

Who's that trader who claims that we'll hit 10k this year? Soloway? He was calling for 12k bitcoin at 16k and then we went to 31k so he doubled down because he's already a laughingstock, so all he can do is pray for that 10k so he can say I told you so.
638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Has anybode suggested the idea of "crypto-communes"? on: August 29, 2023, 03:23:32 PM
1) By the decision of the majority, forced transactions can be carried out, i.e. money in your account can be transferred to another account;
2) You can withdraw your coins into real money only with the consent of the majority.

I don't know what societies can gain from such a system?
Although it appears to be a socialist system, it is much worse than centralization...
Implementation of forced transactions by this majority decision is worse than communism.

Exactly. I don't want the majority to decide for me. I don't want to live in a system where people can force me to do anything.

This thread is about money, but it's a great moment to mention covid, as people were forced out of their homes, denied services and money because others feared the virus. Fear is a very easy and efficient way of controlling populations. When threatened from the outside, your perfect commune is going to turn into chaotic state of lockdowns and terror.

Even if you buy a piece of land and make it your own state, what's going to stop your neighbors (nation states) from taking over with military and forcing you to pay taxes?
639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After all these years on: August 28, 2023, 08:12:49 PM
XRP? Really? Are you really trying to compare apples to oranges here and claiming oranges and claiming apples are better because they have more uses?

XRP is a centralized and premined shitcoin. It's been partnering with companies since 2013. Do you remember times when Garlinghouse wasn't even the CEO? They had partnerships already and everything was going so slow for them that even dumping their own premine on investors wasn't helping them.
640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think we need to start asking people if...... on: August 25, 2023, 07:57:05 PM
I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  Sad

That's me, which really is a sad thing.

Long ago, in 2016, I was full of hope for humanity and tried to tell people about bitcoin but I saw that smirk on their faces telling me something like "this guy got hooked by those  scammers, he's going to lose money" so I stopped doing it. it reached a point where I wouldn't talk about bitcoin at all unless somebody mentions it. Even then I don't immediately contradict them or reveal that I'm a bitcoiner but instead I try to learn as much as I can about their attitude, asking if they own some, if they heard about this or that, like blackrock investing, microstrategy and all the rest.

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