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641  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 08:25:02 PM
642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 07:01:26 PM
Bleh. Not excited the very least yet. We have been here a fucking ton of times already.

I’ll wake you up at $15,000?

That would be fine, yeah. Unfortunately I am unable to sleep for several months in a row. Sometimes I would like I were able though Tongue

Let's not be greedy here. Just gimme $10K+ sooner than I expect and I will start smiling and being moderately excited again.
643  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 06:50:46 PM
Bleh. Not excited the very least yet. We have been here a fucking ton of times already.
644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 05:36:05 PM
Good.
645  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 04:19:54 PM

The peseta-euro change fucked up our purchasing power really fucking bad.

True.

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But on the other hand, the scenario of our last decade politicians having the entire control of the currency makes me shiver.


Even more true Tongue

So if we already "paid" the price 20 years ago, and now it isn't as bad as it could have probably been... why change it?

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Do you guys think there will be any relevant pump or dump next days? I think we will probably have a few calm days and them will definitely either break 10k, little pullback and go up or break 10k and moderate pullback. But I don't see a strong pullback coming nor the price being stable at 9300 for very long.

I think we will try to attack $10K and fail the first time. Then some drop (which could even be up to $8.5 in a flash "crash" but most probably just over $9K), then rebound... and eventually breaking $10K before the halving... and probably all that in less than a month.

Next days? Probably some sideways ($300-$400 up and down).
646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 03:41:25 PM
OK, corn. Need you at $20k ASAP pls. Would like to rescue Rick from wage slavery. Shit is getting fucking retarded at his job, yo.
Sheeit.
Not selling a single satoshi at $20k. If I wanted to sell @$20k would have sold back in 2017. Have to charge my "hodling fee" so I guess I'm selling some limited q-ty at $50k at least.  Cool

I couldn't have foreseen Rick's misery in 2017.

Times and plans change. It's for a good cause, and I don't feel too bad parting with the required BTC @ $20k. Unplanned things happen, and just glad that I got into this corn stuff when I did, to have an opportunity to make life easier on the both of us.

On principle, I can also rationalize taking profit at $20k. Not that I want to, but, if it allows for our "Happily Ever After" sooner-than-later, it's gotta be done.

Don't want to lose him to an early heart-attack.

We have already been over this (not so much have really changed and in fact you seem to be in a similar situation again) so I will just tell you the same I did a couple years ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg27868428#msg27868428
647  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
Any opinions on if there will be a significant pump today or tomorrow?

Britain officially leave the EU tomorrow (politically) before a transition period until the end of 2020. I wonder if this will be reflected by loss of power in the € & people flooding to BTC to preserve their wealth?

Why would it have a negative impact in the €?

Intuitively, finally putting an end for that shitshow looks bullish for the € to me... but most probably I am not seeing the full picture of it.

For my part, each country with its currency would be better, the central bank eliminated, the European Parliament eliminated, we would be less poor and we would not keep so many leeches. Cheesy

Maybe... or maybe just the contrary.

Small individual state currencies are WAY easier to manipulate. That's why shithole countries usually even forbid the $ usage to their citizens... so that they won't flee their savings in mass from their local currency to a stronger one when they start devaluating it to zero to pay for their HUGE and UNCONTROLLED public spending.

Not that they don't do the same with $ and €... but its orders of magnitude more stable than (many/most) small currencies.

No one really knows, but I don't think we would be any less poor if we haven't exchanged Peseta for € 20 years ago. With the kind of politicians we have had in that period, it is more probable that they would have been devaluating it like crazy until everything exploded apart. Or maybe not?
648  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 02:32:04 PM
Any opinions on if there will be a significant pump today or tomorrow?

Britain officially leave the EU tomorrow (politically) before a transition period until the end of 2020. I wonder if this will be reflected by loss of power in the € & people flooding to BTC to preserve their wealth?

Why would it have a negative impact in the €?

Intuitively, finally putting an end for that shitshow looks bullish for the € to me... but most probably I am not seeing the full picture of it.
649  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Glassnode: 784.149 direcciones poseen mínimo de 1 bitcoin completo o más. on: January 30, 2020, 01:31:06 PM
Sabemos que algunas de las direcciones con mayor cantidad de BTCs son de exchanges, ¿ pero podría ser que un exchange fragmentase los activos en direcciones de > 1 BTC ? (y por tanto algunas de esas direcciones de 1 BTC tengan realmente los activos de varias personas).

Seguro que sí. Lo que no sabemos es en qué proporción se da ese caso, por lo que nos quedamos igual. Además las costumbres en cuanto a la consolidación o no de direcciones van cambiando.

Por ejemplo desde mediados de 2017 empezó la costumbre de consolidar direcciones para aprovechar forks y también para reducir fees. Pero luego en 2018 y 2019, con las fees más bajas ya no era tan necesario y, por contra, es mejor que haya cierta diversificación para dificultar el "chain analysis". Eso principalmente en cuanto a usuarios particulares.

Los exchanges.. supongo que tenderán a cierta consolidación... Ellos no fragmentan "per se", sino que los depósitos les llegan a múltiples direcciones por parte de los usuarios y a partir de ese momento ya no pertenece al usuario sino al exchange (si él lo saca posteriormente, saldrá de OTRA dirección). Lo único que sí deciden los exchanges es si consolidan más o menos, pero eso ya es política de cada uno de ellos.

También (de nuevo en cuanto a usuarios particulares) el precio afecta en cierto modo a la consolidación. Hace años podría ser bastante razonable tener varios BTC en una misma dirección. Su valor no era tan elevado. Ahora puede ser un poco ridículo pagar algo de 0.001BTC desde una dirección con 10BTC.

Yo diría que a medida que el precio aumente iremos viendo un mayor incremento en el número de direcciones de cantidades cada vez menores, INCLUSO aunque el número de usuarios no aumentase.

650  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: La Cadena Ser y las consultora Everis – víctimas de Ransomware ahora on: January 30, 2020, 01:06:04 PM
O a lo mejor quien tenía ahora los BTC procedentes del ransom era un tercero a quién se lo vendieron y ahora se ha encontrado con esto?

No me queda muy claro lo de enviar todos (o casi todos) los BTC de una tacada en vez de irlos convirtiendo poco a poco. Tanto si se trata de los "ramsoners" como si es un tercero que pueda sospechar de su procedencia ilícita. O a lo mejor no lo sabía?

No sé, como siempre faltan muchos detalles.... A ver si más adelante nos enteramos de algo más.
651  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 12:36:51 PM
oh

lol
652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2020, 12:33:13 PM
Guys, can we please keep the conversation on topic???


I need to know if we are currently forming a BART (Bart) and headed back down to <9100. I'm trying to short BSV right now and want to know when to put in my next order. I found a place that lets you short BSV futures at 100:1 leverage and am currently practicing. I'm studying for an entry point.

So please, let's stick to hardcore TA only out of respect for our WO forefathers, who must be turning in their dormant accounts right now.

LOL

I did that with XRP once (during 2017 IIRC). It wasn't even a 100x leveraged trade, just a regular 1x margin short. It was a bad idea.

When there is an entity that CAN easily manipulate the price (XRP, BSV, etc) you are at their mercy no matter fundamentals nor TA... at least in the short run.

That being said, if you are determined to do it, think carefully what your stop profits and stop losses should be at according to your expectations.

No idea if we are forming a BART. We could perfectly just dip a bit (still $9K+) and then rebound. Or revisit $8.6K-$8.8K and then rebound. Or...

If I really knew, I would be margin trading like a mad monkey. I am not.
653  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: dudas on: January 29, 2020, 10:10:43 PM
Es un artículo de referencia cruzada dentro de Cointelegraph (tiene el hábito de hacer eso, aunque no se relacione con el artículo base tratado). Claro que el artículo que apunta a los 5K antes del halving estaba redactado a finales de Diciembre 2019, con BTC algo por encima de 7K, y donde el autor veía tendencias bajistas en su análisis técnico. Como para hacerle caso …

Vale ya veo, si últimamente colocan titular+enlace en mitad del articulo, en este caso relacionado con el CEO de la compañía pero con fecha Diciembre 2019 Roll Eyes

Si algo he aprendido en todos estos años es que cualquier "noticia" o artículo en el que se haga una predicción futura del precio vale más para limpiarse el culo que por su contenido/predicción. Por supuesto algunas aciertan o se aproximan... por una mera probabilidad estadística.
654  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2020, 09:52:25 PM
Good morning, good day to change the rank.

Bye Sr. Member / Hi, Hero Member 

Kiss WO Kiss #nohomo

Congrats VB1001!!!! More than deserved as you already achieved more than enough merits to even be a Self-made Legendary!
655  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2020, 03:48:09 AM
I really hope the major didn't really sell all of his stash at $4K-

The other day I stumbled upon one of the last posts of bones261 in another thread. It seems that he sold. Not that he had a huge stash, but still.

I wonder how many other good people we will be losing along this bumpy journey. Will never understand why people go ALL-OUT. Why not hodl even a little stash just in case... even if you lost faith?

When I see the first pages of this very same thread I see a lot of nicks that are no longer here. It is easy to notice because there are almost no hats. IIRC jojo is the first one that appears. I have always though that most of them already reached their targets and are now too busy spending their fortune while still hodling a good chunk of BTC... Maybe reality is much uglier than that.

HODL.



Thinking about going all out is so 2015. (especially when it is down 50%+ from its ATH) That was the year I was afraid of bitcoin crashing to zero and I had no coins at that time. I was all out.

After I witnessed the pump in 2017, I realized that bitcoin cannot go to zero even if it wanted to. (What...You thought bitcoin wasn't a living organism?)

People just won't let it happen. (It is certainly not dying.)

I totally agree. I went almost all out in 2015 when I bought my Ducati for 30 BTC.

Now, not so much. on thursday I actually have an appointment with the bank to discuss "selling my house for bitcoin". That is, taking out a second mortgage on the huge surplus value of my house, reorganising my debts and then hopefully ending up with a sizeable amount to increase my stash. I mean, the money is free man, 1.55% is less then inflation....

Jesus Julian. That is a very risky move you are doing there. In all senses:

1- Getting money on a suppossed current surplus valuation.
2- Reorganising debts........... which basically means you have debts, in plural.
3- And using loaned money to invest in Bitcoin.

Not that I am saying it couldn't end well for you but.... risky business to say the least.

Of course, if you have enough income to cover it all even in the case your investment went to zero then everything is good I think.
656  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2020, 03:36:56 AM
After more reading, I am not that worried about it.

People in Western hospitals are not dying.  The fatality rate seems very low and only the most vulnerable / compromised. 

That's because we have better treatments for pneumonia AND the hospitals are not overhelmed. As expected.
657  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2020, 12:00:02 AM

So, yeah, for "normal" peeps would not seem overly optimistic, but for you, it might seem that you are becoming a bit overly emotional with your devolution into btc bullishness.  Get a grip upon yourself, bitserve!!!!

*** Gembitz has quit IRC
* Bitserve looks casually at the price
*** jonoiv has quit IRC
Bitserve: You saying JJG?
658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2020, 09:30:01 PM
I really hope the major didn't really sell all of his stash at $4K-

The other day I stumbled upon one of the last posts of bones261 in another thread. It seems that he sold too. Not that he had a huge stash, but still.

I wonder how many other good people we will be losing along this bumpy journey. Will never understand why people go ALL-OUT. Why not hodl even a little stash just in case... even if you lost faith?

When I see the first pages of this very same thread I see a lot of nicks that are no longer here. It is easy to notice because there are almost no hats. IIRC jojo is the first one that appears. I have always though that most of them already reached their targets and are now too busy spending their fortune while still hodling a good chunk of BTC... Maybe reality is much uglier than that.

HODL.

659  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2020, 08:50:25 PM


we need an hero

Can't help.

660  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
This is all nice and all... But I won't be really happy until we cross $10K.

Enough of this bullshit sideways.

P.S.: Well, not really... sideways is OK for a couple more weeks. Then I want to see some more ACTION.

In other words, you seem to be raising your expectations of baby BTC...


And, this is NO longer fine.   Cry Cry

I already raised my expectations when I "bet" at The Dude's game. Short term we can have some sideways and some dips, retests, etc.... but we need to be $10K+ before the halving (but not MUCH higher, just slightly). To be more precise, the first (not the last, mind you)  $10K+ should happen in the next few weeks, then some dip/retests, then some consolidation, etc...

I have always been very clear about my expectations and I will stick to my guns Wink

... And THIS is perfectly FINE.

P.S.: ONE year ago I was predicting around $6K-$7K for around this time. That's true. But... things change.
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