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6801  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Patching The Bitcoin Client To Make It More Anonymous on: September 24, 2012, 11:25:55 PM
Good luck Luke-jr.

However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability.
6802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Warning Against Using Taint on: September 24, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
Compulsion is a sure sign you are being fed a crap sandwich .... if it was so great you wouldn't have to be forced to eat it.
6803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MintChip challenge - Vote for Bitcoin! UPDATE: THEY LIED! SCANDAL! on: September 24, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
Crap sandwich from State-backed mint ... did you really expect anything different?

The utter ruination of their false world-view is the only thing that will change some people's perspective.
6804  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could bitcoin be made more anonymous? on: September 24, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
You don't need to identify yourself to use Bitcoin. Now you (and any developers) are free to be as careful as you want. It's really not a bitcoin thing.
I know man, but I am wondering how much bitcoin lends itself to anonymity, and how much it theoretically could

Bitcoin doesn't require your identity. It perfectly lends itself to anonymity theoretically.

Somewhat disingenous fob off. In any practical network-connected application bitcoin is at best pseudo-anonymous and at worst a public trail of every transaction you choose to do with bitcoins.

Theoretically maybe it's great ... in practice it sucks for anonymity.
6805  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Most Bitcoin friendly country for founding a company on: September 24, 2012, 12:20:02 AM
On-line casinos have chosen Gibraltar or is it Malta(?).

Iceland has an MP that spoke at bitcoin conference.

Panama has interesting privacy, incorporation, etc laws.

New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong (and others) have laws making it easy to set-up a company.

Finland had declared bitcoin legal (only in passing I might note).

Basically it is a whole cornucopia ... I've even noticed some operations are basing the machines that store identifying customer data in places that have hard private data laws, and the servers that do transacting, processing (whatever service the business it is actually performing) in other jurisdictions that just refer to the customers as non-identifiable numbers.
6806  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum - Bitcoin client for the common users (friendly and instant) on: September 24, 2012, 12:09:54 AM

Any of you python guys had a play with Jeff's pynode?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94645.0

Wondering if it could offer something to the Electrum-Stratum client-server model?

 
6807  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [ANN] pynode: Simple bitcoin P2P node on: September 24, 2012, 12:01:10 AM
Wondering if an Electrum client might be able to modified to talk to a pynode ... or vice versa?

What does Electrum use to talk to bitcoind?   pynode provides a JSON-RPC HTTP server interface, just like bitcoind...



It uses the Stratum protocol ... but I don't have detailed knowledge of that, yet.
6808  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [ANN] pynode: Simple bitcoin P2P node on: September 23, 2012, 07:24:23 AM
Not sure how this one slipped under my radar ...

Wondering if an Electrum client might be able to modified to talk to a pynode ... or vice versa?
6809  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum - Bitcoin client for the common users (friendly and instant) on: September 23, 2012, 07:21:06 AM
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I was thinking of a feature that allows you to show a QR containing a signed transaction. Then you could grab your phone with Electrum and snap it and send without ever physically moving anything from offline machine to net-connected machine. Truly an "air-gapped" process.

Intriguing, I like how you're thinking .... Amoury (and any off-line wallets that can sign) might be interested in this feature also.
6810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GoldMoney [FB post]: James Turk in conversation with Félix Moreno de la Cova on: September 22, 2012, 11:04:08 PM
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But so is fundamental protocol failure of the bitcoin network at this point. Just a matter of degrees...

You seem to have a lot of confidence in a beta networking software experiment .... bitcoin does have counterparty-risk associated with it, regardless of however small it is, it cannot be just wished away.

Bitcoin2.0 (incl. native protocol strong anonymity feature) seems to be the biggest threat here for me.
6811  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Venture Capital looking for investment partners on: September 21, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
Seems legit.

pirateat41 ?
6812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We should not try to get legality for Bitcoin... on: September 21, 2012, 10:02:40 PM
What are you arguing here? Bitcoin is malware?

Edit : want to link to a github repo of "trojans and viruses"? It is completely voluntary you want to run it on your computer or not.

Edit : bitcoin addresses and keys pretty much are random numbers ... that's math.

U look at bitcoin as chunks of raw data. But it's information (interpreted data = information). If the state decides that Bitcoin is illegal u can't say it's "destroying the common law framework". If it was so then prohibiting to store child porno would be considered as "destroying the common law framework" as well.

It is.
6813  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GoldMoney [FB post]: James Turk in conversation with Félix Moreno de la Cova on: September 21, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
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The interview seemed to suggest a grudging acknowledgement by Turk that bitcoin is important. But it's obvious he still has lots of hang-ups and just can't bring himself to accept a few things; namely that bitcoin and gold are similar in that neither is backed by anything - they are *both* fundamental. He's also failing to fully understand the fact that bitcoin transactions *are* immediately extinguished at the time of transaction just like trading a silver coin for a meal. He seemed to imply that because bitcoin is a "currency" (his distinction vs. gold), it therefore has counter-party risk, whereas gold doesn't. He hasn't yet internalized the ownership model of bitcoin. It does take some getting used to, of course, so I'm not going to begrudge him too much... And obviously he needs to push his own goldmoney service (which *does* have real counter-party risk, clearly).

Turk is conceptually correct in saying that there is counter-party risk with bitcoin, the counter-party being the bitcoin network itself. If the bitcoin network were to fail in some way, e.g. successful hack/attack, take-over by evil devs, etc then those are counter-party risks similar to relying on a centralised clearing house. Since it is a decentralised network of clearing then the risks are much diminished but not zero, as it is with gold.
6814  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We should not try to get legality for Bitcoin... on: September 21, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
Anybody want to point to a particular statute, in any Western country, that demonstrates open source software that can transfer and store random numbers securely is illegal?

Bitcoin is NOT illegal ... and I'll be very surprised if any legislature anywhere can come up with a statute that can make bitcoin illegal without destroying the common law framework civilised, liberal, property-right respecting societies are founded upon.

A lot of trojans and viruses considered to be open-source software (u can get sources) and look like random numbers (polymorphism trick). But u'll be punished if u try to send them to someone else.

U can't pretend that bitcoins r just random numbers. It's like pretending that dollar banknotes r just sheets of paper.

What are you arguing here? Bitcoin is malware?

Edit : want to link to a github repo of "trojans and viruses"? It is completely voluntary you want to run it on your computer or not.

Edit : bitcoin addresses and keys pretty much are random numbers ... that's math.
6815  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-20 Goldmoney Interview: Bitcoin, gold and competitive currencies on: September 21, 2012, 09:39:41 AM
Yes, they are strangling commerce and trade to a standstill with their capital controls.

Ask the former Soviet Union how top-down capital resource allocation worked out for them.
6816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We should not try to get legality for Bitcoin... on: September 21, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
Anybody want to point to a particular statute, in any Western country, that demonstrates open source software that can transfer and store random numbers securely is illegal?

Bitcoin is NOT illegal ... and I'll be very surprised if any legislature anywhere can come up with a statute that can make bitcoin illegal without destroying the common law framework civilised, liberal, property-right respecting societies are founded upon.
6817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GoldMoney [FB post]: James Turk in conversation with Félix Moreno de la Cova on: September 21, 2012, 05:10:51 AM
A USB key is something tangible, right?  I can put my wallet in it, can't I?  If I also erase the copy of my wallet on my PC, then this USB key becomes the only thing in the whole universe that can allow me to get my bitcoins back, right?

So to me, bitcoins ARE tangible.

And what is so magic about holding something in your hands, anyway?


I suppose a "brain wallet" is intangible. So bitcoin value can be held either as tangible or intangible ... messes with people's heads like this.

If it is not able to be physically touched does it really exist?
6818  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: September 21, 2012, 02:01:33 AM
I have 2 deposits of approx 10BTC from a couple days ago, and neither has moved... They normally get moved to a large wallet within a day or so, and it seemed like part of the normal mixing process, it possible the owner might have abandoned the site or died or something.

Presidential order drone strike?
6819  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum - Bitcoin client for the common users (friendly and instant) on: September 21, 2012, 01:44:28 AM
Bkkcoins : "does Tor run with SOCKS proxy?" ... yes, SOCKS5 is required for compatability with latest releases of Tor.

Also, thanks for fixing that bug with not recreating a wallet when off-line. I saw that once and it unnerved me a lot but I couldn't reproduce it (must have been particular set of circumstances, offline, new wallet, no change addresses or something?) but it has stuck in back of my mind ....
6820  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GoldMoney [FB post]: James Turk in conversation with Félix Moreno de la Cova on: September 21, 2012, 01:36:43 AM
Felix also mentioned Hayek's theory of Emerging Order which fits Bitcoin to a tee:

Hayek’s key insights included a recognition that, because knowledge is dispersed and depends on time, place, and context, no central authority could acquire all the knowledge required to plan an economy. He also sought to better understand a phenomenon first identified by philosophers of the Scottish Enlightenment – that of spontaneous orders. Many orders such as languages, Hayek noted, are not constructed by a central authority. Instead, millions of individuals acting on their own create an ordered way of communication with one another.

The huge positive from this interview, and many others now advocating competition in a free market for currencies is that realisation is growing, quite quickly now, that competition is possible. We do not have to live inside this draconian monopolised monetary control matrix. There are other ways. Gold and bitcoin and Hayekians can live peacefully together.

http://monetaryfreedom.org/

https://mises.org/daily/3204

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The interesting fact is that what I have called the monopoly of government of issuing money has not only deprived us of good money but has also deprived us of the only process by which we can find out what would be good money. We do not even quite know what exact qualities we want because in the two thousand years in which we have used coins and other money, we have never been allowed to experiment with it, we have never been given a chance to find out what the best kind of money would be.
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