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721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 20, 2023, 09:09:02 PM
Meanwhile, Bakhmut is taken.
By meanwhile you mean that a 17.000 habitants city, not too far from the RF borders, has been flattened to the ground to the point that is no longer a city and that has only taken... 1 week? 1 month? half a year?.... no, it has taken 1 year, since May 2022!
Verdun is also a small city, but a serious battle broke out there a century ago. Wagner took Bakhmut for 9 and a half months, which is a long time, but there was no goal to take the city quickly, the goal of the "Bakhmut meat grinder" was to deplete the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the conditions imposed by Russia. Now Ukraine says that the position in Bakhmut is unfavorable, but who forced it to defend a disadvantageous position for so long?

If that is how the Pyschos intend to keep waging war in Ukraine, I forecast what is basically a suicide for the current regime. The amount of money, men, resources and political capital employed make this war an economic suicide for the RF. BTW... watch your flanks... it may take 1 year to get it, but it may take 1 week to run from it.

I am thinking of it. Why would Ukraine choose to defend Bakhmut? Why did Ukraine need one more year to keep the RF busy in what is a not very strategically significant area. What did happen during that year?

- EU and US committed billions in additional aid.
- Ukrainian troops have been trained in a variety of systems. Notably in the Patriot, but not only in the Patriot.
- A number of Ukrainian pilots have been trained in F-16, which are going to be "freed" by the US so that allies can send them to Ukraine.
- A number of MBTs, IFV, artillery and other vehicles have arrived to Ukraine with their crews trained.

It seems to me that the cost of taking Bakhmut is not just the dead and the equipment lost. We will see along the summer.
Pleases your optimism and faith in magic by the next Western wunderwaffe. Russia also did not sit idle during these 9 and a half months:
- carried out partial mobilization, eliminated the numerical superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, carried out a rotation and gave rest to the most combat-ready units.
- erected many defensive structures, including a 70-kilometer trench in Zaporozhye, in all directions except for Bakhmut, several rows of layered defense with dense mining.
- launched the mass production of planning and control kits that turn ordinary high-explosive bombs into guided bombs - this has become a real headache for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for which there is still no cure.
- launched the mass production of loitering ammunition Lancet, which became a real headache for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for which there is still no cure.
- Too lazy to type.
722  Local / Разное / Re: Boеннo-пoлитичecкий кoнфликт мeждy PФ и Укрaинoй on: May 20, 2023, 07:27:06 PM
Ну, что котятки, Артемовск (Бахмут) взят:
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Основатель ЧВК «Вагнер» Евгений Пригожин заявил, что бойцы его структуры полностью установили контроль над Артемовском (Бахмутом).

«20 мая, 23 года, 05.20.2023, сегодня, в 12 часов, полностью был взят Бахмут», — сказал он на видео, опубликованном его пресс-службой. По словам предпринимателя, операция по взятию города длилась 224 дня.

С чем всех и поздравляю!
Ага. Музыканты таки нагнули нату с хохлами. В укросми чегото пока молчок, засунули языки в жопы, думают наверное как это преподнести хохлолохторату. Может как отрицательный контрнаступ? Не? Топаем дальше...
Кстати главный хохлоклоун к япошкам уматал. Совещается там с рептилоидами. Дома то опасно теперь сидеть, после того как выяснилось что пэтриоты не алё.
На цензоре статья о том что Москва педалирует фейк о том что головнокомандувач к бандере отъехал. В общем врут говорят, сами тем временем головнокомандувача народу предъявлять не спешат  Grin
Они и Соледар после сдачи в сводках Генштаба ещё пару недель обороняли. Война - это путь обмана, всё по Сунь Цзы. Пиздотрясы короче, хуле с них взять.
723  Other / Archival / Re: Лaйфхaки пo yклoнeнию oт службы в apмии on: May 20, 2023, 07:18:15 PM
Нашел свежий демотиватор чтобы лишний раз откосить от могилизации. Там на видео тетки жалуются не только на стандартные проблемы мобиков (это кстати можно было бы и самим нагуглить), но и на то что военные подразделения продают мобиков друг другу за 25тыр
https://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/71557
Чё там, опять фейковые пиздострадания? Бахмут взяли зеки-добровольцы Вагнера, никто их насильно с зоны не тянул. Частичной мобилизации была одна волна и закончилась она с полгода назад. С нового года набрали уже 114 тыщ добровольцев по контракту, о чём сегодня в минуту просветления от беспробудного пьянства отчитался Медведев. Собственно об чём я в предположительном ключе говорил чуть выше в теме - за три килобакса денег ежемесячного довольствия недостатка желающих испытать удачу скорее всего не будет, так и вышло. Причём кастинг на пунктах вербовки довольно жёсткий, берут только самых здоровых, боеспособных и хорошо мотивированных. Кто пожиже только через Вагнер. Пока всё идёт к тому, что второго этапа частичной мобилизации попросту не понадобится.
724  Economy / Economics / Re: Sanctions at work:Russia posts its second highest deficit in the post-Soviet era on: May 20, 2023, 06:53:47 PM
One of my favorite topics. HERE it is very interesting to watch some characters who realize in reality what is called "cognitive dissonance" Smiley This is when you see that everything in the country is collapsing, but you cheerfully talk about SUCCESS Smiley
Do you also think that a budget deficit is bad? Your beloved US and every G7 country has been running chronic budget deficits for years. Or is it different?

By itself, the budget deficit is not very good, you have to be able to live within your means. But at the macroeconomic level, the budget deficit is rather the norm. Nobody likes a recession (although there is nothing wrong with a recession, the processes in the economy are usually cyclical) and governments artificially stimulate economic growth by spending more than they earn. And they also stimulate their own citizens, the savings model of behavior again provokes a recession. Therefore, there is no need to dramatize the current budget deficit in Russia, especially since part of it is purely technical in nature (the government now has a trillion rubles of undistributed income - these are still the consequences of the winter transition to a single tax account). But if economic growth indicators matter to you, then the current budget deficit is definitely a success, because it will directly lead to an increase in the percentage of GDP growth in the foreseeable future and right now.

That is why Biden cannot agree on an increase in the debt ceiling - the Republicans are demanding spending cuts, and this will immediately lead to a recession, which is extremely disadvantageous for Biden before the elections. Economic growth is not determined by how much you earn, but by how much you spend.
725  Local / Разное / Re: Boеннo-пoлитичecкий кoнфликт мeждy PФ и Укрaинoй on: May 20, 2023, 05:31:06 PM
Ну, что котятки, Артемовск (Бахмут) взят:
...
С чем всех и поздравляю!
Тупоголовые ватники даже и не поняли что вагнеровцы ловушку схавали. ВСУ просто отошли на более выгодные позиции вот и все. Бахмут отлично простреливается с новых позиций в отличие от невыгодных мест занимаемых ВСУ ранее. Cкоро Z-котятки в окружение попадут.
О как, теперь это стали невыгодные позиции. А чё раньше то не отошли, на выгодные? Поди тыщ писят там своих оставили одними двухсотыми - всё на алтарь нелепых политических амбиций Зеленского. Фортеция Бахмут блять, теперь это снова Артёмовск.

Ха-ха, обиделся на эректуса чёли? Не дуйся попусту, зайчонок, как говорится обиженных в жопу ебут.
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И ты туда же?  Shocked Вот уж от тебя не ожидал:
Гомофоб чтоли? Не в ту сторону воюешь. Grin

Ссыкливых приспособленцев никто не любит, которые паразитируют на своих более лоховатых согражданах. Excimer оценил ситуацию и пришёл к определённым выводам, потому что он как раз мыслящий и видно что грамотнее и остроумней вашего тупого стада, а вот ты разигрываешь из себя дурачка за 15р и надеешься пропетлять и рассказываешь кого "в жопу ебут", видимо ты понимаешь в этом  Wink
Давай не отвлекайся, дрочи на контр-наступ, а то чёто пока тяжеловато идёт. Ну щас то позиции выгодные, эх скоро заживёте там. Только бы до осени дотянуть, а там глядишь и самолёты спонсоры подкинут, вобще суровые станете. Grin
726  Local / Разное / Re: Boеннo-пoлитичecкий кoнфликт мeждy PФ и Укрaинoй on: May 20, 2023, 04:29:14 PM
Вот по графикам видно что уровень загрязнений сильно снизился в промышленных регионах России. Вряд ли это потому что кто-то беспокоился об экологии.
Зима очень тёплая была...
Не вижу корреляционной связи между температурой воздуха и уровнем загрязненных частиц в воздухе.  Grin Grin Grin

Даже наоборот, чем выше температура окружающей среды тем активней должна быть взвесь микрочастиц над производственными мощностями ввиду броуновского движения  Grin Grin Grin

У ватников походу совсем мозги усохли ввиду ваты головного мозга  Grin Grin Grin




Ложь Кремля разоблачить совсем нетрудно - ибо там отрицательный отбор уничтожил всех Homo Sapiens (человека разумного), и породил Homo Vatnukus (Ватника) который по уровню развития еще ниже чем Homo Erectus
Ха-ха, обиделся на эректуса чёли? Не дуйся попусту, зайчонок, как говорится обиженных в жопу ебут. А ты думал в сказку попал? Ссыкливых перебежчиков никто не любит. Хуже ссыкливых перебежчиков только упорные соратники-долбоёбы, но у тебя и в этой номинации есть шанс на призовую медаль. Просто продолжай в том же духе и всё получится! Grin
727  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 20, 2023, 03:10:44 PM
Meanwhile, Bakhmut is taken.
728  Local / Политика / Re: «Кинжал» был или нет? on: May 20, 2023, 09:31:16 AM
как можно заблокировать то, что не смогли найти?  Shocked
Точно так же, как можно "направить на восстановление Украины деньги, которые не смогли изъять".
НИКАК, то есть Grin
Меня вообще умиляет глубина долбоебизма этих вхлам упоротых хохлопитеков, которые похоже реально поверили, что типа коварные злые русские долго и тщательно планировали уникальную военную спецоперацию по агрессивному вторжению, усиленно копили бабосы в секретную кубышку на случай всяких внезапных ахтунгов, восемь лет уже прожили под санкциями за "Крымнаш", а потом вдруг взяли и забыли вывести триста миллиардов баксов из западных банков. Поди там до сих пор слюна из уголка рта капает при мысли про контрибуцию. Чёто ржу. Grin
729  Local / Политика / Re: Катынь как символ преступлений России on: May 20, 2023, 09:02:01 AM
Поредлагаю зайти на Википедию и удалить топик про катынский расстрел. Ну и про Бучу заодно. Посмотрим, сколько часов продержится эта ваша правка. СЛАБО?
Щас за ссылку на Википедию в приличном обществе сразу канделябрами бьют. Всё потому что особо упоротые украинцы с синдромом потомственных прото-укров решили переписать историю и нахуярили туда мильён тысяч правок со всякой лженаучной ересью и влажными фантазиями своего воспалённого воображения. С такими темпами скоро придётся сдувать пыль с большой советской энциклопедии.
730  Local / Политика / Re: «Кинжал» был или нет? on: May 20, 2023, 08:45:44 AM
..., учитывая что на западе 280 миллиардов из тех трёхсот до сих пор днём с огнём найти не могут. ...
как можно заблокировать то, что не смогли найти?  Shocked
А кто тебе вообще сказал, что триста миллиардов заблокировали? Наебулина? И ты блять поверил этой хитрой татарской роже? Ебать ты лох. Grin
731  Local / Разное / Re: Boеннo-пoлитичecкий кoнфликт мeждy PФ и Укрaинoй on: May 20, 2023, 08:38:32 AM
Вот по графикам видно что уровень загрязнений сильно снизился в промышленных регионах России. Вряд ли это потому что кто-то беспокоился об экологии.
Зима очень тёплая была...
Это где? в Геленджике?  Grin Grin Grin Обязательно расскажи челябинцам
Да она во всей Евразии в этом году аномально тёплая была. Путин же опять климатическое оружие испытывал, ты чё не в курске? Для бескорыстной гуманитарной помощи, чтоб в Европе без нашего газа там не помёрзли. Понаберут блять из деревень недоразвитых тупых имбецылов, поговорить толком не с кем. Есть там кто из более высокоранговых у вас, у кого от фентанила мозги до состояния грецкого ореха в кукиш ещё не скрючились?

Фортеция Бахмут кстати всё.
732  Local / Политика / Re: «Кинжал» был или нет? on: May 20, 2023, 08:14:31 AM
Нет ну слушай, какая разница? Салют-то все равно засчет пюрера. Сама установка стоит допустим миллиард, а пюрерских ЗВР арестовано аж целых 300 миллиардов. Экспериментируй-нехочу.
С хрена ли? Пока что эти салюты и сами установки для салютов целиком и полностью оплачивают муриканские и европейские налогоплательщики.
Когда им это окончательно надоест - перестанут оплачивать.

А замороженные российские резервы они бы, конечно, и рады прикарманить, но пока что ссут их в открытую украсть.
Потому что имиджевый удар по США (международные воры) и статус бакса, как резервной валюты, для них значат гораздо больше, чем 300 ярдов.
Они на ковидобесии триллионы вертолетных денег печатали и не парились. Исключительно благодаря нынешнему статусу бакса. Если просрут это своё главное преимущество - пиздец им наступит довольно быстро и они это прекрасно понимают Wink
(они, конечно, полностью "заукроину", но только не за свой счёт )))
А что толку от того что эти цифры будут висеть типа непотраченными? Я тоже периодически проверяю свой зависший биткоин кошелек, на котором застряли гоксовские биткойны. Но там по прежнему пусто. Хотя будто бы когда-то должна появиться определенная часть от этой суммы. Сейчас она была бы для меня огромной. И эти биткоины у гокса имеются. Но по факту мне от этого ни горячо не холодно. А Кобаяши вполне возможно уже давно потратил битки всех вкладчиков на какую-нибудь систему Патриот, мы об этом ведь не знаем и вряд-ли когда-то узнаем.
Разница в том, что у тебя ничего гоксовского за душой нету, поэтому ты вынужден просто надеяться и ждать. А в России застряло всякого западного барахла минимум на пицот миллиардов долларов в виде акций и прочих хозяйственно-имущественных ценностей, с запретом на вывод без одобрения специальной правительственной комиссии. Поэтому ситуация немного сильно разная, учитывая что на западе 280 миллиардов из тех трёхсот до сих пор днём с огнём найти не могут. Ходят слухи, что Наебулина не такая уж и дура, какой обычно прикидывается, и что незадолго до всех этих февральских событий в Москву прилетели несколько чартерных рейсов с полными аэробусами наличных баксов. Дескать успели почти всё обналичить и эвакуироваться в домик. Врут поди. Grin
733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 20, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
thus no more junk spam = no more junk spam/..

as for you caring about moving ownership of junk spam.. it is never proven in blockchain data that junk belongs to  particular output.. never has.. thus its never been a NFT or a ownership thing..
the junk spam data has just always been dead data added to witness area and just sits there as dead data.
I think that I, you, the developers of the core, and any user of the bitcoin network, have the right to have a private opinion whether the pictures of frogs uploaded to the network are useless garbage or malicious spam, and even have the right to express this opinion publicly (but for the developers of the core, it is in their own interests best to be as careful as possible). But we can't ban it just because we don't like it. Because the owner of the picture with the frog will say that bitcoin is a scam, promised to keep its value and did not fulfill the promise - and we will have nothing to object to him. Who in their right mind would entrust their value to a network that, over time, could change the rules of the game and declare that value invalid garbage?

Well if there's a double spend bug and some users manage to double their Bitcoin holdings using the loophole, tell me, when the bug is fixed, can these users keep their doubled stashes?  Grin  You're trying to put it in such a way to make people think these NFT actually have value (which they don't). So how can they lose value if they don't have any value? And another thing: Bitcoin doesn't promise anything to anyone. It doesn't promise you will earn anything or even keep the money you invested. Theoretically, Bitcoin can go to 0 any moment. So, saying Bitcoin should keep some promise to the NFT owners is simply laughable.  Grin

And I really think that Bitcoin devs are not stopping this madness because somebody on the internet forum may think they're abusing their power or freedom is threatened but just because for some reason they don't consider it a threat to Bitcoin and it's health (yet).  
You seem to underestimate this weird meme economy and the size of the meme community. When Coinbase recently stated that Pepe frogs are “co-opted as a hate symbol by alt-right groups”, it caused such a flurry of indignation that they had to publicly apologize. Or take the same doge, this is initially an absolutely useless coin created as a joke and mined for change from litecoin, however, it has a huge army of fans, a stable place in the top 10 and a capitalization of $ 10 billion. I also find this strange, but I would be careful not to underestimate the power of a mob of idiots. Everyone has different value systems.

I think for 90% the general public, bitcoin is considered a kind of ponzi scheme, for them, bitcoin is garbage, and not just garbage, but environmentally harmful garbage that burns electricity in vain and does nothing useful, so moderate your meme snobbery, for most people lovers of meme tokens and bitcoin-maximalists are the same idiots.
734  Economy / Economics / Re: Sanctions at work:Russia posts its second highest deficit in the post-Soviet era on: May 20, 2023, 06:25:30 AM
And here we are again, right after being told that the deficit was a fluke, that it's some state business with taxes and other bla bla that the deficit will be covered, and that Russia's economy will keep grow when in reality:

Russia Budget Deficit Hits $45 Billion, Exceeding Full-Year Goal
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-11/russia-budget-gap-hits-45-billion-exceeding-full-year-goal

Russia's Economy Contracts 1.9% In First Quarter
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-economy-shrank-1-9-161523790.html

Love how Europe is sinking although it records growth while Russia becomes a superpower while in a complete recession.
But, yeah, reality and propaganda can't show the same picture, ever!!!!

Now I will tell you that the budget deficit in Russia is very good. Grin

It sounds paradoxical, but if you understand economics at least a little deeper than at a primitive philistine level, then you will agree with me. In general, it is not clear how the Russian economy demonstrated GDP growth in past years, given the very tight monetary policy of the Central Bank of Russia and the savings model of the Government's behavior. Now last year’s surge in inflation after the imposition of sanctions has been curbed, the current inflation rate in Russia has been below the Central Bank’s target level of 4% for two months already (and lower than in any of the EU countries and in the United States), and the Central Bank has significantly softened its rhetoric and monetary policy, in other words stopped raising the key rate, began to give signals about its possible reduction and began to increase the money supply. For Russia, which lives in conditions of a chronic shortage of the money supply, this is like life-giving rain after a drought!

The existing global metric for calculating nominal GDP is designed in such a way that GDP growth is possible almost only with a budget deficit. This is a feature of the Western paradigm of the advanced consumption society and the debt-based economy - if you do not have a budget deficit, you have nothing else to grow on. This is a bit exaggerated, but economic indicators fit this paradigm. I mean, there is nothing surprising in the fact that every quarter the world forecasts for the Russian economy are revised upwards. And it will not be surprising if in a year or two the Russian economy makes an impressive jump to double digits precisely against the background of the current anomalously large budget deficit for Russia, which has already become accustomed to a sustained budget surplus.

For reference: The National Wealth Fund of Russia allows you to completely close the budget deficit of 20% within three years without external or internal borrowing.
735  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger Recovery - Send your (encrypted) recovery phrase to 3rd parties entities on: May 20, 2023, 03:21:47 AM

It seems like the MCU does nothing but connect the screen/buttons to the secure elements, and the applications are actually installed ON the secure element itself where the firmware resids.

This means the claim that " you will have to physically press a button to sign a transaction" which they have always promoted is also a lie.

It's also mentioned on their website

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In order to accomplish this, we attached an additional STM32 microcontroller (the MCU) to the Secure Element (the SE) which acts as a “dumb router” between the Secure Element and the peripherals. The microcontroller doesn’t perform any application logic and it doesn’t store any of the cryptographic secrets used by BOLOS, it simply manages the peripherals and notifies the Secure Element whenever new data is ready to be received. BOLOS applications are executed entirely on the Secure Element. In this section, we’ll take a look at the hardware architecture to better embrace the hardware related constraints before analyzing their software implications.

So this means, funds were always "movable" without having to physically initiate an order from buttons that control only the MCU, so not only the firmware had access to the private keys, even the various applications including all of those shitcoins applications that were available to download from Ledger had access to your funds, so for all we know, you could install a shitcoin application on the secure element, which could have access to your BTC private keys or the whole seed phrase.

I'm not quite sure I can agree with this conclusion. Having the firmware and applications reside on the same chip as the seed does by itself not necessarily mean that the firmware or applications can access it. You can still have an architecture where part of the flash storage is accessible (ie. for firmware updates and installing apps) and some isn't (ie. for securely storing the seed). Additionally it should also be possible to have some parts of memory be accessible by the firmware, but not by applications.

So it's highly speculative whether the other applications can in theory access the whole seed phrase as well.

However, given what we now know and the closed source nature of the code... it's also highly speculative whether the apps can't.

(but we do know that at least the firmware can access the seed phrase, if only due to them admitting to it)
The function to explicitly export the seed phrase from the monero ledger application has been around for a long time. This means that there are no fundamental restrictions for any ledger application to be able to read the seed phrase.

It is reasonable in my opinion to consider any activated ledger hardware wallet already compromised (and any security model based on a "black box" is inherently weak), in order to avoid unnecessary frustration.
736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 19, 2023, 08:22:14 PM
it is integrated into the block chain, and from an ordinary digital picture it becomes a unique digital entity, which cannot be copied, but can be transferred to another owner by making a new transaction. In this case, it is no longer garbage, regardless of the content of the picture and your attitude towards it. Well, or all bitcoin is garbage.

appearing in the blockchain is one thing... that is called DEAD DATA

however the "transfer" part. is not proven in blockdata.
because the data is in witness of the inputs signature association.. but it does not tag to which output deserves the transfer

there actually is a way to prove it. .. BUT they are not using a true proof of transfer. thus there is no transfer proof.

take this concept..

you write a contract on paper
the contract says Bill has 1000 sats
he pays 100 to Chris
he pays 400 to Dave
and 500 is lost to the contract notary for confirming the contract
its signed by bill and then bill puts a smiley face next to his signature

no where on the contract has the contract stated that the smiley face belongs to chris or dave or the notary

yet bill vocally says on his website(separate thing) that he thinks this month chris should own the smiley face
even if the smiley face is not put against chris's part of the contract. not is the smiley face written to be chrises within the contract itself

yes its on the piece of paper below the signature. but its not beside chrises part of the contract so no proof the smiley face belongs to chris specifically..
.. its just a random smiley face beside the signature that can mean anything to anyone

next month Bill can decide without changing the contract.. that actually dave owned it all along.
even though still. to all outsiders and rational people.. .. its just a random smiley face beside the signature that can mean anything to anyone
Are you saying that if I want to transfer ownership of a picture of a frog uploaded to the bitcoin blockchain, then I do not have to physically move this picture to the address of the new owner? That the change of ownership will not be reflected in the bitcoin blockchain in any way and the picture with the frog will remain at my address, where I originally uploaded it, and only the entry on some external site will change? If so, then this is really some kind of shit and I need to learn more about the brс-20 token protocol.
737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 19, 2023, 08:00:01 PM
most of the "NFT market" and the fee .. is actually not real cost..

the NFT market is not real millions of people randomly buying junk.. its a small group colluding and collaborating together.. you can spot this becasue if it was random people. then the movements would be constant. however any simple analysis can see that the memes dropped nearly all precisely on the same day. and suddenly the new scam(brc) started a couple days later. which means unless millions of people just randomly all decided at the same time to throw memes off a cliff and jump onto BRC .. then thats a miracle. however instead it was a small group of the meme creators selling and posting fake priced and trading to themselves to cause a fake market hoping to dupe idiots..

luckily not many idiots bought into it which is why it died off a cliff so quick

now with the brc crap. its again not some massive market of millions of people. its a small group of idiot creators again spamming to each other to fake a market demand. ..

though these scams will die out when idiots wise up.. the problem remains.. keeping the security gates open just means new spam wil start. new rounds of different spam different junk different scams . all pretending to offer value. while all they are actually doing is bloating the blocks with dead useless data.
Perhaps our common problem and the reason for the misunderstanding is that neither you nor I have uploaded a single picture with frogs to the Bitcoin blockchain (I certainly have not). But if I understand correctly, the main difference from NFT on Ethereum is that it is not links to an external image that are loaded, but the image itself - it gets into the block, it is integrated into the block chain, and from an ordinary digital picture it becomes a unique digital entity, which cannot be copied, but can be transferred to another owner by making a new transaction. In this case, it is no longer garbage, regardless of the content of the picture and your attitude towards it. Well, or all bitcoin is garbage.
738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 19, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
thus no more junk spam = no more junk spam/..

as for you caring about moving ownership of junk spam.. it is never proven in blockchain data that junk belongs to  particular output.. never has.. thus its never been a NFT or a ownership thing..
the junk spam data has just always been dead data added to witness area and just sits there as dead data.
I think that I, you, the developers of the core, and any user of the bitcoin network, have the right to have a private opinion whether the pictures of frogs uploaded to the network are useless garbage or malicious spam, and even have the right to express this opinion publicly (but for the developers of the core, it is in their own interests best to be as careful as possible). But we can't ban it just because we don't like it. Because the owner of the picture with the frog will say that bitcoin is a scam, promised to keep its value and did not fulfill the promise - and we will have nothing to object to him. Who in their right mind would entrust their value to a network that, over time, could change the rules of the game and declare that value invalid garbage?
739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 19, 2023, 07:07:05 PM
well the solution is not "put up with it or f**k off to another network"
that false solution is the idiot brigades thoughts on their only option to present

many topics talk about actual solutions
the main one that does not break bitcoin is tat from block 7XX,XXX opcodes need to show formatting conditions, expectations of data used with an opcode. and defined lengths of expected data.

this will make transaction byte data efficient and purposeful something that can be validated and verified. like it previously did

as for generating new opcode. well thats simple too. full nodes are suppose to validate all data. this includes the fullnodes mining pools use to manage block templates and what the network then validates to fit active rules to be an accepted block of accepted data.

so when a new opcode is desired devs PROPOSE an opcode and code it. and while in review the network users can download a copy fo also self review and when they flag they are ready to use it. that flag then shows consensus readiness that its at a safe enough level of network readiness to activate the opcode. and the opcode goes live knowing enough of the network is ready to validate the new feature. as what is suppose to happen.

yep full nodes are suppose to be ready to validate things. thats their point. they are not suppose to have blind bypasses of just calling things non standard and treat as valid without check just becasue someone called it a validation pass.

having opcodes that are tested. reviewed and have node readiness is a security feature.. bypasses allowing trojan data is an exploit/bug
I didn’t understand shit from what you propose to solve this issue, so I’ll ask differently. Suppose a conditional idiot uploaded a picture with his favorite meme to the bitcoin blockchain and paid for this transaction at the market price, it was confirmed. As a result of what you propose to do, will he still be able to transfer this picture to another owner, again paying for the transaction at the market price?

I put the question in this aspect, because the problem that has arisen is not entirely of a technical nature. If the downloaded image has lost its value over time, this is acceptable, a common investment risk. If an evil hacker hacked into a hardware wallet, took possession of private keys and transferred the picture to his address, this is also acceptable, a common information security risk. But if you change the consensus rules to tighten them up and a valid entry in the blockchain becomes invalid, this is unacceptable.
740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Civil War on: May 19, 2023, 03:39:42 PM
so now windfury is denying the existing of these meme bloat.. and denying that core devs are devs..
soo who is mis informing??

core are bitcoin devs that softened consensus and even your forum daddy admits core done it. he loves promoting their role in it.

so if you are denying it. then you are denying your daddy. again you sway in one direction when the scripts written for you say A then you change to script B denying A when the script changes

how about look at code. look at block data instead of your silly influencer social drama of trusting people.

LOOK AT THE DATA. do your research. 
Okay, you're right. The developers of the core have been quite consistent in easing the initially tight restrictions of bitcoin, this has had its consequences, both positive and negative. With this we figured out, to the question "who is to blame?" the correct answer is found, now let's move on to the question "what to do?". Because it's easy and fun to loosen restrictions - it entails promising prospects in terms of scaling and rapid success in terms of breadth of adoption. But there is a nuance, once a weakened restriction can no longer be strengthened back without at least a partial loss of backward compatibility. Someone will inevitably suffer in this case - simply because yesterday it was still possible, but today it has become impossible. What do you propose to do about it, other than pointless grumbling on the forum?
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