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781  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Συζήτηση περί big blocks (κ.α.) on: April 22, 2023, 06:34:58 PM
Σκέτη αποτυχία το Lightning:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-lightning-network-is-1-000x-cheaper-than-visa-and-mastercard-data
782  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory on: April 22, 2023, 05:59:52 PM
You have serious reading comprehension issues.
Well, one of does and it's not me.

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That guy on Twitter is going to lose his bet (1 million USD) if BTC doesn't reach 1 million USD by June 17 2023.
try again.

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If he wins, the other guy should pay him 1 BTC.
that part is true.

some people don't understand the basics of how betting works. seems like you might be one of them... Shocked either that or the guy putting up the $1 million is a complete moron.
It's you who's being obtuse here. I receive PMs from longtime members who warn me that you're franky2. Shocked

Again: he's going to lose 1 million bucks if BTC doesn't reach 1 million by June 17 2023.

Either he's overly risky or the US will indeed default on its debt by then (if the debt ceiling won't be raised)... chances are he might lose this bet.

Try again.
783  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory on: April 22, 2023, 11:10:13 AM
You clearly didn't understand the bet.
Enlighten us then. But why would I want to hand over 1BTC so that I could win 1BTC in real world value when the odds are stacked against me. The bet is not even odds. It's probably like 1000 to 1 odds against winning the bet maybe even worse odds. That's how people go broke, you know?
You have serious reading comprehension issues.

That guy on Twitter is going to lose his bet (1 million USD) if BTC doesn't reach 1 million USD by June 17 2023.

If he wins, the other guy should pay him 1 BTC.
784  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory on: April 21, 2023, 08:29:36 AM
Code:
I will take that bet.
You buy 1 BTC.
I will send $1M USD.
This is ~40:1 odds as 1 BTC is worth ~$26k.
The term is 90 days.
All we need is a mutually agreed custodian who will still be there to settle this in the event of digital dollar devaluation.
If someone knows how to do this with a smart contract, we can do it on chain, so I can send USDC.
If you won't do that, name a custodian.

I'm not really sure the terms of this bet are what I had in mind. The way he's got the odds at 40 to 1, I'm not sure there's really any benefit for people trying to take him up on that offer. First of all, they're not going to win the bet as btc is not going to be worth $1M in 90 days. Not sure why anyone would waste 1BTC thinking that was going to happen. 2nd of all, in the extremely unlikely event that their longshot bet wins, they pickup about 40 BTC which in today's dollars is only worth 1BTC. So essentially the guy putting up the $1M USD is taking them for a ride. They're only getting 1:1 odds on their "against" bet. What a bunch of dummies.
You clearly didn't understand the bet.
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 19, 2023, 04:33:59 PM
MicroStrategy integrates BTC-lightning addresses into company emails. this means that any employee can send BTC to the recipient quickly & inexpensively via email address

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2023/04/18/microstrategys-saylor-integrates-bitcoin-lightning-address-into-corporate-email/

saylor@microstrategy.com has been receiving a torrent of 21sat payments.  Like he needs any more! Wink
Just like Satoshi's Genesis address (it's even more futile there). These donations make zero sense.
786  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Τι απαντάτε στο επιχείρημα με τη μεταβλητότητα; on: April 18, 2023, 06:05:15 PM
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Φαντασθείτε όμως πόσο πολύ, σε μια δύσκολη κατάσταση, θα εξαϋλωθεί η αξία των κρυπτονομισμάτων που δεν αντιπροσωπεύουν τίποτα άλλο από ένα ψηφιακό αλγόριθμο που δεν τον προστατεύει καμία κρατική αρχή, και τους κατόχους των κρυπτονομισμάτων δεν μπορεί να τους προστατεύσει καμιά αρχή και κανένα δικαστήριο από τις απώλειες τους.
Όχι, ευχαριστώ. Άμα είναι να περιμένεις από τους άλλους να προστατευτείς στη ζωή κι όχι απ' τον ίδιο σου τον εαυτό κάτι κάνεις λάθος.
Καλά πήγε το υποχρεωτικό κρατικό Ponzi:

https://www.naftemporiki.gr/finance/world/1461030/soyidia-oi-syntaxioychoi-tremoyn-gia-ta-lefta-toys/

 Grin
787  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Τι απαντάτε στο επιχείρημα με τη μεταβλητότητα; on: April 18, 2023, 03:42:28 PM
Ίσως προφητικό βιβλίο:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7s-oindug
788  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Bitcoin τέχνη on: April 18, 2023, 03:08:23 PM
https://i.redd.it/d0h2k11ptjua1.png
789  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Χτίσιμο αφορολόγητου αγοράζοντας κρυπτονομισ&# on: April 18, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
Ποιος στο ανιχνεύει σαν επένδυση;

Αυτό που μάλλον ψάχνεις είναι να αγοράσεις peer-to-peer με κάποιον;

Η τραπεζα, ας πουμε ότι αγοράζω από το Binance, η από το MoonPay δεν το περναει σαν συναλλαγή το αφορολόγητο, αυτό που πρέπει να ξοδέψεις ένα 15-30% του μισθού σου.
Αυτό καλέ μου φίλε είναι πλεονέκτημα και όχι μειονέκτημα!

Προσέξτε τι εύχεστε, γιατί μπορεί να γίνει πραγματικότητα (σύνδεση CEX/Binance με ΑΑΔΕ/Εφορία)... Roll Eyes

Αν αγοράσεις από Binance, να είσαι σίγουρος πως κάποιο κυβερνητικό όργανο μπορεί εύκολα να δει το ποσό που αγόρασες.
Ακόμα όχι. Λογικά θα γίνει μετά το 2024, με την εφαρμογή του MiCA. Πάνω στο επόμενο bull run δηλαδή, που σίγουρα θα τραβήξει τα βλέμματα όλων (με ATH στα 6 ψηφία).
790  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory on: April 18, 2023, 08:50:28 AM
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Some people claim it will reach this fiat valuation by 17 June 2023...
how much are they willing to bet? any of them put their money where their mouth is?  Shocked
https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1636797265317867520
791  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Τι απαντάτε στο επιχείρημα με τη μεταβλητότητα; on: April 17, 2023, 09:10:11 PM
LOL:

https://www.huffingtonpost.gr/entry/prosoche-sto-bitcoin-os-meso-apothekeeses-axias_gr_64340f6de4b0de247249c7fc
792  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory on: April 17, 2023, 05:42:13 PM
BTC will be worth the equivalent of millions of $$$ by 2056.

if inflation keeps going up, it might need to in order to just hold its value...if bitcoin is the same price then as it is now then bitcoin failed.  Shocked failed to deliver a return to investors...
I'm willing to bet it will be worth 1 million USD by 2030 at the latest.

Some people claim it will reach this fiat valuation by 17 June 2023...
793  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Τι απαντάτε στο επιχείρημα με τη μεταβλητότητα; on: April 17, 2023, 04:51:43 PM
Κλαίω:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12pm7p5/bill_maher_calling_bitcoin_a_scam_is_like_when_he/

Τώρα ξέρουμε ποιός δεν αγόρασε Apple μετοχές πριν βγει το «άχρηστο» iPhone! Grin
794  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 11, 2023, 08:00:07 PM
even coinbase, sister company to lightning-core does not want to use LN.. take that as a big hint..
Uhm, what? Have you been living under a rock or what?

https://beincrypto.com/coinbase-will-integrate-bitcoin-lightning-network/

again even coinbase as custodian of grayscale trust fund doesnt want to use bech addresses to secure large funds. heck even bech32 invetor for many years has not offered a donation address in his own creation. even the LN devs still are begging for donations on legacy. so not only avoiding bech32 but also avoiding LN uri..
So, now you also reject SegWit/Bech32? Roll Eyes Along with Taproot, seed phrases, LN and god knows what else... Shocked

Franky gonna franky. You don't want any kind of evolution (unless it's approved by Franky). Gotcha! Grin
795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has a bad reputation (we should fix it) on: April 10, 2023, 05:55:14 PM
Bitcoin is like cash: it's for everyone.

If you're going to punish criminals, chances are you're going to punish good people too...
796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 10, 2023, 05:43:51 PM
Did you miss the "user-friendly" part? Are you saying we don't need BIP39?..
I don't really get why you think storing some random words is so much more user-friendly then storing a wallet.dat-file, or PKs.

And I didn' say "we don't need BIP39", you might need it, even I might,
I didn't say it's not useful.

All I said was, that we didn't need it in 2009-2010 to store our keys, there were other ways.

Even franky didn't say bitcoin did not evolve, he just said it worked from day1.
You were the one questioning that.
Internet (ARPANET) also worked from day 1 (back in 1969). Was it user-friendly?

You don't really get why a domain name (DNS) is much easier (and thus makes internet usage more user-friendly) to remember than an IP address? Really?

You didn't need BIP39 back in 2010, because a pizza cost 5000 BTC. Most people treated it like monopoly money. Hell, they didn't even care about securing wallet.dat files properly.

You can even store your private key in raw binary format (256 bits of ones and zeroes). Does that make it user-friendly?

TCP/IP and Bitcoin are very similar in terms of constant evolution and adopting a layered approach (something that shitcoiners/big blockers tend to hate for some strange reason).

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

BTC/LN naysayers remind me of this brilliant guy.

Let's talk again in 2030. I'm sure franky1 will find yet another reason to complain by then, even if adoption skyrockets to 90% of the global population.
797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 10, 2023, 05:04:26 PM
and even today i prefer private key storage, not seed phrase.
And why is that?

Because franky1 is set in his old ways and doesn't trust BIP39 enough to convert properly his seed phrase into the private key (just like you don't trust LN closing properly a channel and settling your BTC balance on-chain).

Typical. Franky gonna franky! Grin

I'm afraid this is a personality issue you need to resolve with a psychiatrist and has nothing to do with Lightning, Bitcoin or BIP39. Cool Glad I helped!
798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 10, 2023, 04:52:01 PM
and as for the whole comparing LN to the internet in 1991.. nope. bitcoin even from day one was able to install and make transactions without headaches.
Really?

How did you store your private key back in 2009-2010? Roll Eyes

BIP39 didn't exist.
Strange.
I still got some wallet-backups from 2010 and they work just fine.

Why would we need BIP39 to do that?
Strange indeed.

Did you miss the "user-friendly" part? Are you saying we don't need BIP39? Never heard of brain wallets? I can go on and on, in case you missed the point (constant evolution).

I still have DOS games from 1991 and they run just fine via DosBox.

Still doesn't make them as user-friendly as modern PC games from Steam...
799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: April 10, 2023, 03:05:23 PM
and as for the whole comparing LN to the internet in 1991.. nope. bitcoin even from day one was able to install and make transactions without headaches.
Really?

How did you store your private key back in 2009-2010? Roll Eyes

BIP39 didn't exist.

There's a constant evolution towards making Bitcoin more and more user-friendly. It's too bad you don't see it.

Just like the internet evolved from CLI/Gopher to GUI/Tik Tok.

I reckon it won't take 30+ years for BTC/LN to become mainstream. Adoption lag keeps decreasing with every new technology.
800  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Συζήτηση περί big blocks (κ.α.) on: April 10, 2023, 02:55:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5RNsgvEd7o
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