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781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 02:51:31 PM
Halvening will occur, market will rise, but not before another really BIG dump. By the way, I don't think BTC will never ever get close to last ATH.. then people wil start realizing money doesn't grow in trees.

Quoted for future ridicule Wink

 Huh

He wrote "I don't think BTC will never ever get close to last ATH...
So he was meaning the opposite.
Or is my english so bad?



Double negation, yeah. So he does indeed expect Bitcoin to get close to last ATH eventually... Unless his english is worse than ours.

 Grin
Still there are some valid points in his arguments, despite his self proclaimed experience (sry, just trying to be realistic here).
I'm bullish for the long run, but the run might be indeed - very long. The 2017 "bubble" wasn't healthy nor helpful to the market, imo.


That's why I learnt to try not be too hard on bears... and also because, even if they are wrong, we need em to:

1- Get some balance and our feet on earth.
2- Feed price rise with their rekt shorts

At some time the exponential price rise will be gone. That doesn't mean Bitcoin is/will be over, probably much on the contrary.

I already said I am not expecting (hoping, yes) any more 5x-10x in a single year anymore. In fact I would prefer if we reach the stage in which Bitcoin stops crazily overshooting and overdumping afterwards for a more "sane and healthy" price growth instead.
782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 02:30:47 PM
Halvening will occur, market will rise, but not before another really BIG dump. By the way, I don't think BTC will never ever get close to last ATH.. then people wil start realizing money doesn't grow in trees.

Quoted for future ridicule Wink

 Huh

He wrote "I don't think BTC will never ever get close to last ATH...
So he was meaning the opposite.
Or is my english so bad?



Double negation, yeah. So he does indeed expect Bitcoin to get close to last ATH eventually... Unless his english is worse than ours.
783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2020, 10:11:39 PM
Yuh you'd be better off dealing with Diego



Have anyone asked if he wants to be released or prefer to continue doing service?
784  Other / Off-topic / Re: Group therapy - How did you lose your entire stash of bitcoin? on: January 12, 2020, 05:39:08 PM
N00bs.

Something like that would have never happened to me and to be honest sounds a little fishy.

I know how to protect my Bitcoin... If I ever had any I mean. I am a just nocoiner that likes to hang around here just for the hats. I lied all the time about me having any crypto at all. I have none. There's that.
785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2020, 12:39:41 AM
god I hope $5700 holds

Such Bulltard. Much Wow. Moon when?


Just ride the waves, we're on the way.

786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2020, 12:24:18 AM
god I hope $5700 holds

Such Bulltard. Much Wow. Moon when?
787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving, who's closest with actual Nrs TAKE A CHANCE on the LIST !!! on: January 11, 2020, 11:47:39 PM
We didn't post our bitcoin addresses. Will you contact the winner via private message?

When we are at the last days I always write that the winner has to PM me, then all gets settled and I only ask for a post when received....

Already handled some games so I hope some guys can vouch for me that I keep my word Smiley

I surely can. And also many others more trusted and well known users than me.

I would trust you more than I would trust my own mother (literally.. but that's something I don't really want to talk about).
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2020, 01:52:49 PM
Btw..... am I the only one getting really tired of reading this always: CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post! <-- Roll Eyes

Yes, but the problem is not the personal message, which I give no fuck about, but the spammy shitposting actitude of most (not all) of the wearers. Something I do somewhat understand considering that they are paying 0.0002 per up to 5 daily posts. That means they are "forced" to post 5 daily messages to earn 0.03 BTC/month (almost $250) to maximise income.

Now take into account most of the signature campaigners are from low-rate countries where that is a LOT of money, plus many of them cheat and join with several alt accounts, etc etc... And you end with hundreds of users posting nonsense (most of them give two shits about bitcoin), that in many case do not even know english.... The fucking perfect storm!

I have no problem with anyone wearing a signature campaign for earning some extra bucks AS LONG as they don't force themselves to post shit just to "earn" more. I mean, I do shitpost too.. in some sense... but when I do it's just because that's what I really intend, and I really mean my shitpost, not just because someone is gonna pay me for it.

Last month I finally decided to investigate more about how that signature campaigns work and why they are so "popular" in the forum. Thus my thread at:

Listing of DT Ranking Pipeline / Signature Campaigns: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212954.0

Also, some campaigns pay as much as a good SALARY in some countries, like the CHIPMIXER one... But at least they do heavily screen their participants and it is almost like a job selection process where only the very best participants can have an opportunity to join.

The problem with the Cryptotalk/Yobit campaign is that, in my opinion, they do pay too much for what they require in post quality thus the massive shitposting/spamming all over the forum.

Good thing is that here at the WO, we are mostly safe from that spam thanks to no signatures being displayed... which means signature campaigns do not pay for post here so the (paid) shitposters don't have any incentive to post here.


789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Using Deep Learning For Predicting Price. [NEED HELP] on: January 11, 2020, 03:40:11 AM
Is this some kind of joke? How is amazing that the prediction is just following the price and thus completely useless?

Also most of the indicators you are suggesting do not really affect the price. The contrary is usually true instead: The price does affect those "indicators". Which basically means they were not leading but lagging indicators in first instance. Ie: Google Trends, etc....
790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2020, 01:47:24 AM
Small update on my Bitcoin ATM "Observer":

Current installed base has almost reached 6500. Current rate daily installations is again at peak rate of more than 10 each day. There is some reasonable probability that we could end this year not far of the amazing amount of 10000 Bitcoin ATM's worldwide.


 
791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2020, 01:37:11 AM

Sometimes placing an order (or a short) can change an otherwise seemingly reasonable person's perspective, even though the facts may not have changed as much as the fact as their book has changed.   Hahahahahahaha  ..


Maybe... but then again, BEFORE deciding to put a short you obviously had already changed perspective, dontchathink?

So, in a way, talking your book should be, in most cases, the same as saying YOUR truth.

(Except for people purposedly trying to deceive others for obscure reasons, which is not the case here).
792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2020, 01:05:48 AM
Decided as of Monday I'll be bearish  Grin



New target: $5,600, until proven otherwise. Fits with the bear channel we're in that everyone else has already identified.
Going to put my short-term bear cap back on folks.


Mmmhhh, what has changed your mood about it? That channel was already there. The only news of the past few days is that after the pump to 8.4K it retraced to retest 7.8K as expected and bounced back nicely. Next step could be some sideways and maybe then breaking upwards outside the channel.

I mean, it could also go back down as you say, but TA (if that's what you prefer) hasn't changed and price dynamics have been very positive lately.

$5.6K looks bearish AF at this time but hey, everything is possible.
793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
Hello everyone, I'm coming back here with the awesome hat that xhomerx10 designed  Cheesy He really is a great designer  Cheesy

The main problem: Bitcoin is declining every day, a bad signal, do you have confidence in whether it will increase in the next few days? I should have sold some when it was at 8400 and bought it now for easy profit Roll Eyes It's a pity not to do that

bitcoin is finished

get out while you can

 Sorry guys... guess I was in a negative mood when I made that last hat.   Embarrassed

The hat is awesome, as all your designs are.
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2020, 06:43:09 AM
To be honest I am not expecting (hoping, yes) any more 5x-10x in a single year anymore. Which, for me, could even be good as in not "having" to sell a big percentage of my stash because I assume (maybe wrongly) that lacking a "too bublish" pump the subsequent dump/downtrend/bear market would not hit as hard as previous times.

And then I start to wonder what others would think/do in that situation... I mean... If the extraordinary gains Bitcoin has given in the past were not there anymore... Would most of you guys keep holding/using it as a store of value or, on the contrary, would that make you cash out an even bigger part of your stash because you were mostly hodling in the expectation of awesome future profits?

Of course, no one can predict future results but... let's say Bitcoin does almost nothing after the halving... ie: it finish this year at $10K, then spends most of 2021 between $10K-$15K, then still sideways at around $15K for 2022 or even retraces some to $11K, etc....

What would you guys do? Keep buying? Just HODL? Sell a substantial part and move into other things? Sell all?

And what if year 2023 comes and Bitcoin has still not breached previous ATH not does it looks like it is gonna do it anytime soon?

Know what I mean? What would you guys do if/when the constant staircase growing of Bitcoin stagnates?
795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving, who's closest with actual Nrs TAKE A CHANCE on the LIST !!! on: January 09, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
mmmmhhh, now we don't know if the latest more bullish entries really mean it or if they are just taking the only free remaining slots. One thing is sure, the new "system" worked as intended: It encouraged early predictions and discouraged last day entry of prediction, at least for most popular slots/range. Also everyone have a fair and equal slot without anyone being badly boxed.

While there were free slots in all the range, it was clear most participants chose to make "bearish" predictions ($6K to $8K)... but it should be take into account that Bitcoin was still in a depressing downtrend which may have been changed in the past couple of days.

Also, it has been surprising how quickly everyone has adapted to the slot thingy, apparently with even less price collisions/dupes than in previous games.
796  Economy / Speculation / Re: At Which Percentage Profit Would You Sell Your Bitcoin? on: January 08, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
There is no price in which I would sell ALL my Bitcoin.

There are prices at which I would sell SOME. Those prices are totally detached from percentage gains.

The amount (or percentage of my stash) that I would begin to sell would depend on the circumstances. Ie: Too fast to reach the goal, more I will sell (and probably rebuy in the subsequent downtrend), but if it is reached at a slower pace and I have confidence volatility (in both directions) is reduced I will probably just sell as-needed.

Which percentage of profit would that translate into? YES. I mean... FUCK YEAH!.
797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2020, 06:20:21 PM
I suppose this is why there was so many "troop movements" yesterday, give the Iranians some stuff to blow up. Now the contractors come in, spend money, and fix everything. Everyone wins, woot.

Which would be... interesting. I wouldn't expect Trump's team to know how to play tit for tat, or even what a tit meant (well....). We'll see what happens, but an unusual departure from form.

Has it been confirmed that Iran already "accidentally" shot down its own commercial plane?  

I am not trying to discount their level of threat, but it surely seems problematic to be accidentally shooting down your own people.... I also realize that war can involve a lot of chaos (even preliminary stages of such).. so there is that, too.

Well, is is a bit of a mystery. Iran refuses to give black boxes to Boeing to see what happened. But on the other hand, they could just be doing this because 'pissed off' at the USA.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-iran-plane-crash-black-box-boeing-2020-1

As Garrick puts in on Star Trek: DS9

Elim Garak:
I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-E-o0ajGAo

So me, officially on the fence on this but also very 'skeptical' on the coincidence!

Brad

If I were going to believe in conspiracy theories I would probably say it is US who made the plane crash and make it look like a "perfect accident" just to send a message to Iran. In fact, if they (Iran) didn't do it, they might be wondering just that (if US did it as a power demonstration).

Causing an engine to catch fire its something that could be done by messing with the electronics/sensors or by crashing a small "loaded" drone into it. That being said, coincidences do happen. Yeah.

Also, none of the parties would ever publicly blame the other one no matter if they figured out from the scarce evidence... unless they really wanted a full scale war scenario. Which I would think none really do. So just interiorise the message and dig it. All is well.

Or might have been caused by a third party interested in a war scenario...

Or a coincidence.

And that's the reason I prefer to not overthink this matters with conspiracy theories because everything is plausible but irrelevant without real solid evidence.
798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2020, 05:42:49 PM
I mostly agree, but the weekend might still have some spare fuel to burn with the reduced liquidity, so the odd pumperino can never be ruled out. Ohh her wanton ways...


Oh yeah, nothing can be ruled out. I wouldn't be surprised either if we were to keep pumping and retest $10K like the last time... But that would be, like the last time, not so good medium/long term. There's not enough fuel yet for a prolonged and sustainable raise so fast, so soon.

I try to focus on the goal of $10K+ for this year and maybe, in the best plausible scenario, an ATH in 2021. That would be absolutely GOLDEN.
799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2020, 05:34:22 PM
The last two significant movements (bart up/bart down on the hourly) have almost perfectly matched volume. I'd hoped for some asymmetry with larger activity on the leading edge (bart up). Vegeta back to snoozing.

It's too soon for Vegeta. It's way better to have some moderate gains and then some sideways. The halving is still months away, and that's just for the beginning of its effect (frontrunning aside).

Retesting $7.8K would be great. Then some sideways.

Also there is no way for continued and prolonged price increase without trapping some additional shorters for extra fuel. Margin shorters are still too little.

All is well.
800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2020, 02:41:26 PM


So true lol.

I was expecting an "All is well" statement from Trump instead.

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