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801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 28, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
The "attacks" on believers are with arguments, not guns. Nobody forces theists to disconvert at gun point.
Pretty much the same moderate theists do.
802  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 06:37:01 PM
I'm more an adept of Rationalism. I don't cherry pick ideas because there are no bad or good ideas, it depends on the situation and goal to be achieved. Ideas also have their time and place, and Islam sets two good examples of it:

Place:
- No pork. Pigs require too much water, so it's unwise to grow pigs in a desert. The same rule makes no sense at all anywhere else in the planet.

Time:
- Muhammad lived during the Justinian plague - a black death plague - so polygamy was a good idea to face the shortage of people. A man can get many women pregnant but a woman can only breed once per year.

Because religions are irrational, they simply start to apply the whole lot when the required condition that gave some sense to the rule is no longer in place.

Now, the irony:

- A psychopath back in the VII Century kills a lot of people, dictates a book exhorting their followers to hate Christians, Jews, non-believers and pretty much everybody, and people gets killed after such ideology.
- You say in the XXI Century you hate this pathetic ideology, and exhort people to stop killing themselves over such Dark Age ignorance... and you are "the hater"...  Roll Eyes
How cool is that? Makes you feel like humanity a whole is nothing but a bunch of retards.

And again, hate Islam is not the same as hate Muslims. For Muslims I just feel sorry for them. They born in a religion that preaches violence and they are up to a short and violent life.
803  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 28, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
What an absurd! Anybody, muslim or not, white or black, would be kicked out of a plane with such behavior. Don't know why El-Al crew didn't followed the regulations and call the cops to escort them back to I century or so.
804  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
I fully understand it. But you shouldn't accept an ideology without knowing it. And this doesn't apply to religion only, back on the 30's many Germans went down that road of accepting an ideology most of them didn't bother to know.
In the very end one can like ideas, but ideologies have this issue of being a pack of ideas, and even if in those ideas there are some good ones, this applies to Islam too, you have to bring along the really bad ones.
805  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 12:17:16 PM
Ignorance comes only from ignorance.
Hate comes from hate. Ignorants don't hate ideologies, make excuses...
806  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
That's what I don't understand in this World. Why people is so mentally lazy? If it comes for me to be just listening to some cherry-picked entries of the Bible instead of take a look at it myself I would still be calling myself Catholic. Just yesterday I was reading the story of that Danish ex-Jihadist and goes around the same. Ignorance seams to be a religion-wide issue!

I know I shouldn't bother with it, let they call themselves whatever they want. The problem is that once convinced by some cherry-picked entries people assume the whole package as "good" and get directed like sheep towards violence, attempts to control everyone's private life because "God wants" and all forms of barbaric practices thereafter.

Is it too much to ask everyone to simply take a couple of hours and READ what their religions actually say? What are they about? Asking them to trust no one, not their priest, not their imam, not me, and read by themselves? A couple of hours that may save them from a lifetime of ignorance?
Maybe it is...
807  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 02:59:46 AM
Islam does not support any terrorism. Islam is a religion of peace.

And I'm Mother Teresa...
Why don't you read about it before? Is it so hard to inform yourself? So many books, web, all this entire world of information, and I keep seeing this ignorance!
808  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 11:03:21 PM
Thought you know that's a quote... apparently you didn't...
I don't see Jehovah witnesses as tyrants, like Mormons, they're just annoying but not a threat or violent.
Still they miss the 3 strikes rule. Their "watch tower" already predicted the end of the World, when we all go to Colonial American houses with heterogeneous families, a chinese mother, a white father and a black boy, with a vegan lion for pet... you know the picture... some 20 times and, accordingly to all my senses the World is still here. This has to be like this, 1, 2, 3 you're out... miss predict the end of the World for the 3rd time, close the church and call it a day.
809  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 10:17:06 PM
The reason religions preach in mass numbers is because there trying to save those people in there perspective. so there trying to be nice not hateful so if you have a Jehovah's witness come to your house educate yourself before you slam the door on them like the asshole you probably are.

The worse kind of tyrant is the one believing to be "good" or "saving someone". They torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their conscience.
810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 27, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
Sorry, circumcision does nothing for cancer or DST's
The "study" you refer is a known hoax.
811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 27, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
Israelis and what we call "jews" aren't necessarily part of judaism. Mainly because we call them jews just because their parents were of such origin.
But Judaism as religion doesn't fall too short of Islam or Christianity.
812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
Because they don't preach as much as Muslims, and there are no Buddhist-only states

They do preach, just don't kill anybody or force to convert. That makes a huge difference!
813  Other / Politics & Society / Religion shitlist on: September 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Even if I take religion as hazardous they aren't equal on damage, for this reason I keep a shitlist based on their irrational doctrines:

#1 Islam
-violence
-convert or else
-gender discrimination
-homophobia
-violence towards animals
-slavery support

#2 Hinduism
-gore practices on some sects
-chast system and social inequality

#3 Judaism
-violence
-homophobia

#4 Catholicism
-violence
-convert or else
-gender inequality
-homophobia

#5 Christians (protestant)
Same as #4 but in a bit less extent.

#6 Xintoism
-chast system

Out of shitlist:
Buddhism
Taoism
814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 07:02:49 PM
I believe many people here is confusing "Islam", a fascist ideology disguised as religion, and Muslims, the people who by some reason follows it.
815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism BS on: September 27, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
I must admit, the study linking religiosity and IQ, if that's what we're talking about here, was severely flawed because it was more of a link between poverty, access to education, nutrition, and IQ

Theocracies doesn't cultivate IQ. But you are linking it backwards, the status of a country is a reflect of its people. If its people is dumb it will remain in the shit.
Patronize them and blame US, as if it got to what is by magic, improves nothing, it's just the typical loser excuse.
816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 04:44:55 PM
Slave trade is highly contested in the NT and compared in the same line as other "sins". Ok, labor conditions at the time makes it hard to distinguish slaves and servants, still your quotes makes clear the thin border, NT forbids its followers from provide sex to their boss, something a slave can't. The slave was full property of his owner and must provide whatever he wants.


True enough, but also not relevant to my point, which is that Christianity did not forbid slavery. Later, the Christian churches evolved and have since (to their credit) condemned the practice, but that is NOT a biblical doctrine.

I've said many times that most people are good despite their religion, and I stand by that. Religions disprove their divine inspiration by the very fact that they DO evolve.

I got into this cuz the OP caught my eye. I have no particular hatred for Islam, I hate religion in general for the evil it has fostered. Most of the adherents are decent enough people. The radicals who use religion to justify their actions would have another cause or no cause if they didn't have that one. Bad people do bad things. But religion does and has encouraged good people to do bad things. And it sometimes works, because the true believer is going to feel guilt for holding back their hand from an evil act if they think their gods command it.

Totally agree with it. I feel bad in defend any, my aim is to avoid the usual "this calls for that but the other also does this". So what?! One violent retard doesn't excuse another violent retard.
BlackHawk then get to know Islam...
817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 27, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
Slave trade is highly contested in the NT and compared in the same line as other "sins". Ok, labor conditions at the time makes it hard to distinguish slaves and servants, still your quotes makes clear the thin border, NT forbids its followers from provide sex to their boss, something a slave can't. The slave was full property of his owner and must provide whatever he wants.
818  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 27, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
To be an atheist all it takes is that you don't believe in God or Gods... you can then be an opportunist and a sociopath or the most honest and virtuous of the persons....

Of course.  But looking at supposed religious leaders showing evidence of being opportunists and or sociopaths, then attributing with no evidence athiesm to thim, makes no sense.

Who is attributing what to what?!

@MZ

I don't even know where to start! You just pilles up a load of lies. I'll cut it short, because religion doesn't worth the time you spend with it:

Your board just adds 10 years to the age of Aisha at time of marriage. That alone already tells a LOT about the content. Like this void senseless crap:

Quote
Prophet Muhammad’s mission stopped many of the horrible practices against women that were present in the society of his time.

What "horrible practices" are those? Because History doesn't have them. Just the muslims bold and empty claims

The rest doesn't deserve any reply because that's notoriously copy-paste from some around the web misinformative text about Islam. Taqqyia all the way.
819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 27, 2014, 12:56:44 AM

Sorry for my inaccuracy, I should had say "I'm not aware of studies on the subject".
And thank you for the info.
820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 27, 2014, 12:41:36 AM
To be an atheist all it takes is that you don't believe in God or Gods... you can then be an opportunist and a sociopath or the most honest and virtuous of the persons.

Quote
But considering how many Muslims the (mostly) Christian West has slaughtered lately, picking on "muslims" just looks racist or something.

I came to notice that Islam is a suicidal thing with a homicidal doctrine, while Christianity is a homicidal thing with a suicidal doctrine.
The "attack everybody and convert them by force" shit of Islamic doctrine makes them to look like violent retards stepping on everyone's toes. Which ends up with brutal counter-strikes and nobody giving a F**K for their fate.
The "give the other chick" thing of Christianity, makes them too slow to react, meaning the shit is already stinking to the stratosphere when they do and things turn really nasty to whoever was waiting for the next "other chick".
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