There is no ideology pegged to Bitcoin.
That may or may not be true. The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
Satoshi is not Bitcoin and some plaintext in the blockchain is not Bitcoin either - Bitcoin is just applied math in a computer network. Really, Bitcoin is about as political as the average open source project. Sure, to some people everything is political, others just use the free stuff for their needs and are happy Quite the opposite. The core of all political systems is the banking system. Private for-profit central banks are anathema to freedom. Satoshi Nakamoto obviously developed bitcoin as a technological solution to the problem with private for-profit banks. The bitcoin computer network may evolve into different forms, but fundamentally it will be decentralized.
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I thought it was great. Those people really are wasting the use of that domain name though.
*doublechecks domain name* +1 heh
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I've used moneygram and xoom as alternatives to WU Too bad more people don't use btcnearme.com
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Probably just not interested in bad publicity.
+1. We're getting an office space ASAP. The Wyoming incorporation service was mainly for tax reasons and to get the site off the ground. I apologize if you got the wrong idea because of it. We're working to provide as trustworthy and secure of a service as possible. Edit: The phone number is up on the main page. We changed it so international callers could reach us as well. Bad publicity from what? Why was the WhoIs changed at the same time? Bad publicity from you Mr. Gage. As for the WhoIs, I assumed it was private the entire time, but we recently switched over our nameservers to an anti-ddos system. That might have done it? We're still using the address for any emails we send out (per CAN-SPAM regulations.) What is the point of this thread? It's interesting that it follows a major ddos attack wave. Is there an implied accusation? I guess at this point the thread is pretty long, to long to read in a short period of time, so I guess it's time for a synopsis. A member of this forum, who has a vested interested in Bitcoin, desires to know why a Bitcoin related company uses an address in Wyoming known for "shell companies"--businesses that exist almost exclusively on paper. As a tax haven, any other address would have worked in Wyoming, but this one was specifically chosen. Why? http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%222710+Thomes+Ave%22 Hope that bought you up to speed. Sorry for the long description, but I had to hash out this explanation from this mighty long thread. OK, thanks. I don't know what "shell companies are. Are they illegal or illegitimate somehow? I wasn't aware that there are tax havens in the USA. There are a few states that have low incorporation fees and also low tax rates. Just because a particular business is successful because it offers low rates for services, doesn't mean that it is violating any laws. If the Wyoming business is conducting illegal activities, perhaps law enforcement should be contacted? Personally, I would trust a company with a Wyoming corporation over one in the Cayman Islands, UAE, or several other offshore corporate tax havens.
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Probably just not interested in bad publicity.
+1. We're getting an office space ASAP. The Wyoming incorporation service was mainly for tax reasons and to get the site off the ground. I apologize if you got the wrong idea because of it. We're working to provide as trustworthy and secure of a service as possible. Edit: The phone number is up on the main page. We changed it so international callers could reach us as well. Bad publicity from what? Why was the WhoIs changed at the same time? Bad publicity from you Mr. Gage. As for the WhoIs, I assumed it was private the entire time, but we recently switched over our nameservers to an anti-ddos system. That might have done it? We're still using the address for any emails we send out (per CAN-SPAM regulations.) What is the point of this thread? It's interesting that it follows a major ddos attack wave. Is there an implied accusation?
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Mine on a mid-sized pool Deepbit, slush, and btcguild are easy targets. This is a perfect example why too much hash power to a single pool is not a good idea. Which pool is it? We will all join you
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attacking the IRC would be logical as well, however i belive the attack on the pools is driven by pure profit motive
That came to mind as well, I was leaning towards even China maybe. Attack the pools, mine like no tomorrow. So many scenarios as into who. China popped in the back of my mind though. That's because here in america we're all afraid of china regardless if we should be or not It came to mind because I seen an article where china jump all in for bitcoin mining then this happened. But like I said, so many scenarios as into who, china, SC users retaliating, DeathAndTaxes stating btguild said could be a pissed off botnet, just imo. Hopefully it'll be over soon. If it is China that is behind this attack, then bitcoin will likely get some press.
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Please point your miners to api3.bitcoin.cz. I'll update DNS of api.bitcoin.cz and api2.bitcoin.cz when attack will be over.
This is down now.
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i had to laugh at your post count mark, considering how much trouble i had trying to contact you on irc.
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Really? You are complaining about customer service based on how many times someone posts? Why don't you just do your business through Atlas or any other 17 year old HERO member on this forum? I think he was referring to it being 404, which is the error number when the DNS of a website doesn't resolve and it can't be contacted not to how often Mark posts. Thanks for pointing that out. It is good to see humor in this thread.
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i had to laugh at your post count mark, considering how much trouble i had trying to contact you on irc.
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Really? You are complaining about customer service based on how many times someone posts? Why don't you just do your business through Atlas or any other 17 year old HERO member on this forum?
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I think it has nothing to do with thieves and everything to do with basic finances
+1 This is a new frontier in global resource transactions. MtGox is having to tread carefully within constraints of any perceivable legal infractions. They are abiding international laws (including USA) and have self-imposed limitations in order to stay within normal business rules even though they are quite capable of so much more. It will take time for the world legal systems to adjust to what bitcoin and MtGox have created. We must be patient and not expect too much too fast. If you have someone else in mind that does not self-regulate, then the risk is yours to trust them to remain so.
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Bitcoin: The best forum for trolls since SA.
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It's freefalling to <$1 right now. Get ready for a rough ride down Care to wager on that? If bitcoin goes to <$1 I'll send you a bitcoin, if it doesn't then you send me a bitcoin. Hmm?
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W.....T.....F.......
this...... was a predictable tho once i realized it was based on a true story.... that story of mr fed and how he made bitches of the world.... It is a parable of the history of Manhattan of first being stolen from the original inhabitants and then again stolen by the banksters.
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BTC is tanking. Has been since June, no reason to think it's going to change. Ignore what you want, doesn't make you right.
Define tanking. Where is the bottom? Honestly? Parity. Maybe just above. Seriously, the existence of BTC as a useful currency depends on the following, in order from most important to least: 1) General Public interest and usage 2) Stable, safe, transparent exchanges 3) Black market usage 4) Belief in ideology 5) Speculation 1) has run, probably because of 2, 5, and just that it's not convenient enough. For them, the fad is over until Amazon, their credit cards, and actual banks bother to think about BTC. 3) will cut and run as soon as 2) is established. The groupies at 4) are tiny. TINY. These are your fundamentals, and the last 3 months are a perfect example of where everything is headed: 1) is gone, 2) never existed, so you're left with 3) and 4), while 5) will bail as soon as there's nothing left. I didn't even get to the part about what most miners will do when it gets more expensive to mine than not. I'm not sure I have seen any existence yet of 1, let alone running. 3 is a strawman used by fearmongers, like criminals have never used cash lol. 2 will take time, Rome wasn't built in a day. 4 is only important for developers =p. 5 is 34 million USD strong.
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W.....T.....F.......
Your teachers must have been so proud of you.
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BTC is tanking. Has been since June, no reason to think it's going to change. Ignore what you want, doesn't make you right.
Define tanking. Where is the bottom?
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Not anymore!
I'm sorry, that was a joke. This is not: The chart looks awfully flat for the last 4 weeks. Not much bouncing. Looks like the cat is taking a nap, not dead.
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The whole mappers vs. packers epistemology is about how skillfully we are able to model our world. The scientific method vs. our patter-seeking animal instincts. Packers have evolved to survive in the natural world, but the inevitable outcome of all evolution is extinction. If we don't become mappers (positivists), then we will be replaced by species that will better adapt to the environment we create.
It's clearly the mappers, like bitcoin enthusiasts, who steer the world. If the human race followed packers, we might have never left the dark ages. Or even worse, we might all be wearing those godawful cheese hats. Anyway, packers tend to be followers, because they don't have the vision or risk tolerance to lead, so I'm not too worried about it. Maybe I'm not understanding this hypothesis. I tend to see the world leaders as mostly highly efficient predatorial packers. The few mappers in the world have to be wary of them. Mappers tend to have complex ideas and mappers tend to have loud voices proclaiming their knowledge. Try watching a creation vs evolution debate sometime. Our civilization is frequently hindered by distractions by packers with things like war and corporate sponsored sporting events.
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