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841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: October 29, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Mostly people can have more loses than wins but some have more wins than loses. But the problem is even they're having wins more than loses but after all their balance is still minus . Why ? Because they won small bet and lose big bet. That's the problem .

THere are more people who lost more than those who have won. Probably because those people who won more are those who can limit themselves properly better than those who lost more.

Why they lost more then what they earn in gambling means they all are addicted gamblers and also they can't control their greediness in gambling because of this reason i thin they lost their money.
even when you have full control over your emotion and calculate every single winnings and losses you have received i think it would remain same , you get less win and the rest of it just loses. the law of gambling actually like this : you should never think about making profit , just have fun there and walk away no matter what happened.
842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 29, 2017, 12:23:52 PM
Gambling offers the opportunity to become rich almost without doing anything and those who like easy money will come back again to try again. You need to set a limit for the game in order not to lose everything.
Correct the opportunities we will never get in real life that is what attracts us towards gambling we always need to understand gambling is just a short term solution and sometimes it might even make you good money but to make more money you always need hardwork and dedication

Other people became that addicted of because they taught that full happiness can be achieve if they play and play as expecting lots of chances will come all the way, but they're wrong. That's right gambling was just for short term bets which could possible give you lucky chances of winning, but I don't see it profitable if we make it long term. Better to work for money like bitcoin jobs and other sources of income like physical jobs, due to sustainable amount it may provide to us.

it's really dreamy when people usually imagine how much money they can make through gambling when you stake $100 double it to $200 , $400 , $800 and so on easily within a couple of minutes , the reality always far different from what people want. they didn't think realistically and prefer to follow their gut to become greedy in the end.
843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 29, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
I don't think trading should be considered as gambling.Because trading depends on your skills and gambling is just luck.I can use my mind to predict and find the best use of trading but in gambling I can't do anything except bet.Also I think trading can give me good profit in short time but gambling will make me empty hand.So I prefer always trading and not think that it is a kind of gambling.
It depends on the individual, if they have taken the time to study the market and they always take rational decisions then we can say they are trading with intelligence, but if they let their emotions to rule them and trade without knowing why then in a way they are gambling.
you would always to have a speculative prediction that actually more to a random prediction in trading. it's can't be predicted when you start trading for like 1 or 2 years , you need more than that time to make trading completely different from gambling . at least that what makes people sometimes trading feels really like completely gambling. an experience decide everything in trading.
844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: October 27, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
What are the chances of living in a world with no actual money ?  Shocked

Our society cannot survive without the fiat because that is what the majority uses. Fiat can produced infinitely by the government to control the national market. But for instance, a world where the technology is advance and globalization has taken over the whole world, it is more practical to use the crypto currencies. However, this world would still be decades or even centuries away from us in the present.

Yes, the world cannot fully adapt blockchain technology due to many reasons. But the most important is the Bitcoin will offer more than local cash can do. although local currency however has a fix value within a period of time unlike Bitcoin that changes everytime like every seconds, hour and day.
For me, Bitcoin has nothing to do with fiat but it only offer other ways to usage espcially international markets.
always be a big problem when it comes to daily usage , since a currency should be used in daily basis and bitcoin struggle to make it happen. even recently people consider bitcoin as a digital asset to put the money for future investment , rather than to use it frequently for daily needs. fiat will never disappear , it will be like that exist alosngside bitcoin.
845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I try to win back my loss? on: October 26, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
It depends on you, if you have such large amount and you can really afford to lose more then you can try to win back your loss if you decided to do it too . But If were placed on that situation that I encountered a consecutive loss I would just distance myself on any type of gambling as it is not really easy to get back what I've lost and i don't really think it will be possible for me .
What I believe is that all the gamblers do look for winning money even if they claim to belong from the fun seeker league. I mean, who on Earth won’t love to get extra money for doing nothing. Gambling is a dangerous game regardless of what someone is seeking in it.

People come back playing this game because of the love of money. It is better to earn hard by making some real efforts as it is more reliable way.
even when you have a large amount and decide to keep doubling your bet amount until you can reach your target to recover your losses , sooner or later your wealth/bankroll would get depleted . don't wait until that moment come. realize it early and avoid to become a broke guy. try to accept your loses and get started with a new purpose of gambling.
846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why should governments allow bitcoin to continue grow? on: October 26, 2017, 04:32:14 PM
Because I think if the government makes regulations about bitcoin transactions and impose taxes in it, then the country will get a lot of revenue from there that can be used for the development of the country to be more advanced again.
yeah considering bitcoin are free from tax it's frequently abused , people put their money in bitcoin to avoid tax payer. it's risky indeed but still favorited. we live in an advanced technology era , things could always adjusted. if government want a tax just do research about bitcoin and figure out how to deal with it , not just take a simple action to ban everything about bitcoin.
847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: October 26, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
It feels good of course ! everytime I win i feel very lucky and will always want to win more ! it was very hard to stop when you are winning and it feels like you are already addicted to it ! too bad with the desire to win more I ended up losing all my winning Including the capital that is what you called greedy right ? well i've learned my lesson and thats good enough for me
you would feel losing your mind especially when you win big unexpectedly with an impossible odds , i remember one of my friend who won a parlay with odds nearly @1000 with $5 staked , he spontaneously smashes everything around him like a mad. always be an overreact when it's happened , you just need to be wise after that , don't gamble right after your winning , as you might could lost it all again.
848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I won $123 for few minutes on: October 26, 2017, 03:37:04 PM
I never won that amount for just a couple of minutes. When this happens to you, don't gamble again for that time because worst comes worst that amount can be recovered by the house. I won't gamble anymore for that day if that happens to me, this is just base on my experience that after winning and when I'm confident that I can still win, the outcome is very sad.
greediness as it was mate, and i'm sure terms like practice what you preach is really needed as we always contradict what we wanted to do when we are inside the real games, winning that huge amount can make you enjoy for that day, go out and have some fun and buy things that will let you remember your lucky day.

Yes, it was greediness and I stopped doing that because the result was just happening again and again. And that's why if ever I'll win higher than $10 for each of my bets or every time I'll dice I'm going to stop immediately and will enjoy it going outside eating with some of my favorite foods. But I really want to experience winning $123 for few minutes.
gambling are always seems so easy to make money quickly , but don't forget about the chance for you to get lost same as quick as when you won it . people lured only with the good things shown by the other people experience winning nice amount, don't fall into that thing. you have to be realistic. take it easy and treat as a pure entertainment.
849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 26, 2017, 03:10:12 PM
I knew few people whos into gambling addiction,they always says that they have learn from mistakes upon losing and no budget to play,but when they have another amount to in hand.those mistakes will happen again,and again.what ever i adviced then yet nothing happens
Although everyone already know about their mistake that they usually done in gambling, but still they find it hard to over them, because they always try to make more money in short time, but for every time they do not succeeded and they just waste the time. I think we need top lay gambling in such a way that we can over come all our mistakes.
yeah due gambling addiction you would always ignore everything and just follow your guts that actually more to greedy. not surprising at all as gambling full of addictive things , you would always make things that considered as a mistake like chasing your losses , put the money that actually not belong to you etc. that's the fact.
850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 24, 2017, 04:08:33 PM
both have risks. in gambling if you can't control the emotions, then it's the loss you will get. I think in investment risk can be reduced if you understand what you want to invest
The risk is common in both gamble and investment. we can be reduced our loss in gambling by limiting our capital and in investment, we can't predict when the loss will come.
Risk in investment is not equal to risk with gambling. If you invest in some promising ICO or just buy some promising altcoin at low price than you can easily make good profit by just holding them for few months. However in gambling you can either multiply your bet amount or you will loss all at one single roll if you turn out to be unlucky.

It is risky in both side but with investment we could get money in the long term although it may not be that much. If it is gambling then we could get alot more but remember that gambling is supposed to make us lose. I wouldnt really gamble high amount of money because it is the same as wasting all the money that you could have use as investment
what makes people choose to gamble are when they never be patient to get profit and just straight go to casino for instant money , they thought they would always get that but it's just a dream to having profit everytime you place a bet. investment much more better and secure . you won't feel too much regret , but in gambling it's full of regret believe me.

The idea about those people who has short patience on their profit is they really wanted a fast profit and not on a expectations that on investments there is always a good future. Many situations can prove that not just gambling as an easy money to think of, but you cannot expect that in gambling you can have a better assurance to win lucky profit always, but reality happens and losing from your bets might be a recurring activity. My advice to those who were into trap of this idea about gambling is they better be back on investments and bitcoin is the only way to give them better profit in the future.
gambling are for luck seeker , if you looking for steady profit here then you are in the wrong place , i wouldn't say gambling for entertainment as it won't make you happy whenever you get lost and you did lost most of the times by the way. investment more legit and reliable for sure , you don't have to think twice or consult to an expert.
851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 24, 2017, 03:34:24 PM
Both of them, to get more profit and fun. It's an easy way to make money through gambling.
Either you can sue it for fun or for profit, it is not easy to gamble for both purposes. Most of the people I know game just to make money, not to enjoy the game. Just use little mind and think what fun in losing money is. Who enjoys to go bankrupt, everyone is here just to make money, nothing else. They just give it name of fun when lose money just to console their inner about losing hard earned money.
they think they can make money while the actual purpose since first time are for having fun , that sounds like not true indeed. as you would only get addicted and looking for money only in the end , believe me. the addiction in gambling are so real. sooner or later it would come to you if you continue playing regularly.
852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: when you try to explain people about cryptocurrency do they understand? on: October 24, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
They mostly struggle with the technical details. How is it generated... Why can nobody hack it.... How does the mining work,

and things like that. They can also not understand that third parties are not needed to make it work. The most common type

of questions is.... Where can I get it and is it legal? Once you explain and give answers to these questions, they are hooked.
yeah that's the hardest part to explain , you need to have a lot of time to elaborate clearly about it. and of course step by step with well explanation and easy words. keep telling them that you would never completely understand about bitcoin when you didn't get started asap. go get your first bitcoin and feel everything and as time goes by you'll understand the miracle of bitcoin.
853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: October 24, 2017, 02:57:50 PM
When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?
It depends on the people investing. For people who are just trying out or have only small amount of money which they want to use to try and get profit, it is worth it. Even if it will take a while for them to make profit, it's the fact that they will still earn something from it overtime.
yes you are right. many people are not that fortunate to have lots of money in their pocket but trying their best to be a better man and invest with that small amount that they have. it's not about expecting right away to have a big profit from that small investment as long as they earn and times goes by in proper handling it is possible to earns big profit.
In actuality, there is nothing as small investment, when you get the little you can afford to invest do it and as time goes on, you continue to add more money to the one you already have and make the investment to grow.
nonetheless you have to consider how much money you think it could be worth as investment. but in bitcoin investment itself even you put $10 it could grow so quick , just take a look when op start this thread , 0.01 were worth $10 but now it's worth around $60 . your investment have grown 500% in bitcoin. even you get low interest only on your casino investment.
854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: October 23, 2017, 09:02:18 PM
There are very rare occasion when I win in gambling and its an surprising moment for me to accept the reality that I have actually won something in gambling so it surely gives me excited feeling and makes me happy to know the fact that it added value to my wealth.

I used to feel the same way when I was barely winning any bet but since I joined sports betting it's been a different story because I'm able to gamble and win frequently and has made winning a normal situation and part of me so I hardly celebrate these days even though I feel excited and ecstatic.
to win big unexpectedly in gambling always hilarious, you would feel so speechless , what should you do with that amount , what next etc. that time you are full of positive energy, so confident and feel you are the luckiest person in the world. and however i don't believe you can win against the odds in the long run no matter it's sportsbetting or whatever , you should cash them out while you can. don't wait until you think have to gamble again.
855  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED on: October 23, 2017, 08:47:48 PM
@wattson I got confused, that chat is from sportsbet.io or Stake.gg? As for the chat itself yes it looks a little fishy, but I think you should try their email and ask about it, as they suggested in live support. Maybe Adam was not well informed, and although that should not happen, since that was a normal question, and he should now how to answer it, we can't blame the site for one person. You should actually say on the email that the live support assistant that talked to you wasn't able to give you a clear information about that question.

I understand the need to ask for some kind of verification, otherwise it would be easy to exploit that promotion, but they should of course be clear on what they will ask, before you deposit.
since afaik sportsbet.io have a lot of money back promotion , i think it's about sportsbet.io . i have tried it , i won it by the way so i don't have to ask for that promo, and another promotion there basically don't require you to upload any document as per my experience , i just found them have too much confusing and misleading terms. that's what i think so fishy.
856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is falling, But don't worry! on: October 23, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
recently, bitcoin has drop from 6100$ to 5777$ in just few days,but i think bitcoin price will rise again because, many people have predicted bitcoin will rise more and more in this year, reaching more than 7000$.

Don't depend on people's predictions, do your own due diligence. If you believe in the long term potential of Bitcoin, go ahead and buy at the dips. You can have the confidence that you will make profits in the long run.
actually the down trends not always leading to bullish or vice versa , you have to dig deeper on what the factor causing the market are so consistent go down/up . there a lot of techniques to know that , you just need to learn more. but i have to admit that to analyze bitcoin market it's always hard with its decentralization. i do make speculation sometimes.
857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 23, 2017, 07:59:48 PM
Yes, Trading is one type of gambling but when compared to gambling it has low risk. In trading, some time prediction work and we can make some good amount of money but in gambling, the prediction will not work always.

It's a gamble because you have to take the risk of putting your coins at stake. And it is why whenever you rare gambling don't forget that you are doing it with risk, that's why deal with caution and not all the time the fate is with you. Sometimes you can get a decent return but not all the time it will be. Make sure that you are ready for whatever will be the outcome when you trade.
that's not , trading should be done with a lot of consideration and you might doing a proper trading. when you do it in random way based on nothing then yeah you are basically not pure trading , but looking for an opportunity to make money instantly through an easy way like making random investment to buy it low and hoping to sell it high , just keep hoping without put a real effort.
Yes, and we shouldn't do trading purely on speculation, there is a lot of effort to be made while reading charts and then the trader makes his mind on either to invest in that coin or to move onto another coin.
i can't avoid that at some point trading might would feel like gambling especially cryptocurrency trading where the parameter on how the price could move up or down are not really clear. it's speculative sometimes but i believe most of the times when you do a deep research about the market , there would be a prediction that so close correct. but in gambling every analysis wouldn't have a real influence to the outcome.
858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: October 23, 2017, 07:41:35 PM
No. I would be busy spending it anywhere in anything that will attract my eyes. My problem would be on how will
 I spend all my money because I'm sure that I'll have anything that the world can offer. I have plenty of cash in my bank accounts and it will just grow and grow and  I don't need to gamble.

That is the thing or the reason why you will be staying surely in gambling, the problem on how you will be spend that lot of a money. When I have a lot of money, I am sure I will be still gambling, but the thing is, with a different goal or aim, to entertain myself. I have a lot of money so I don't need to hope to win but to just entertain myself.
gambling would always about money , without money involved i think gambling won't be as popularand excited  as right now. as things that makes people attracted to give a shot in gambling are when they think they can make money there easily, money would always be a reason why people mostly come to gamble. it won't really be a big deal whether are you have a lot of money or not , gambling are just gambling no matter you do have no problem to bet with a lot of money .
859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: return as soon as possible and win back your losses . on: October 23, 2017, 07:04:34 PM
We all can lose in gambling  and lose our money but shall we stop or try to win back what we lost ?

no you shouldn't chase your loss otherwise you'll end up losing more and more because of their house edge it's like more you play the more you loss. I advise you to quit gambling if you're aren't good at it as it can affect your real life as well. I have seen many people who are addicted to gambling or playing to recover their loss and ended up losing more. So I think you should just forget about your lost money and start doing something productive. All men make mistakes, but only wise men learn from mistakes good luck
you should always remember that gambling basically would only make you lost in the end sooner or later , when you decide to trying to chase your whole money that actually have lost then you are not mature enough to gamble , think about to let all of them go and just start a new game without have to think how suffering you are losing that money , just gamble with your own passion.
860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: October 22, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
I don't prefer doing analysis while gambling. It puts too much stress in what supposed to be a fun game. I prefer using the instinc I have gained from years of playing the game. That's why win or lose, it's just another game...
Well you have a point. You'll get stress if you keep on analyzing on a certain game. You gamble because you want to have fun, but if you gamble because you want to earn money,then that's the time you use analysis.
are you sure with analysis you would guaranteed to get money? analysis won't make you have bigger chance basically , it's just your mind suggestion. everything in gambling are random no matter what, it's uncertain and you need to guess it based on your own luck and nothing else. just think about it again , analysis maybe just part of superstition?
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