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841  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: April 23, 2019, 11:21:26 PM
^^^ Why do you think that I don't accept random events. Haven't I been telling you that the events that brought C&E activity into effect were different than C&E? The fact that QT might assign a probability point to something, also suggests that something can be improbable enough so as to be impossible.

As far as C&E being philosophy, it is only such because a bunch of people won't accept the fact that C&E is QT essentially absolute. Why? Because if everything were QT equally possible, we'd be able to do anything. You'd be out flapping your ears and flying around the city. As it is, it's only the flapping of the mouth that keeps you thinking that there are no limits, contrary to QT, btw.

Cool

''accept the fact'' and it is a fact because you say so? Are you a god or something? If you say something is a fact, it's a fact?
842  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: April 23, 2019, 11:20:32 PM
^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

Cool

''Only immune systems'' The common cold came around 200 years ago and yet we haven't got rid of it even though our hygiene is much better, what happened to the immune systems? They didn't work this time? They worked for deadlier diseases but not for the common cold?
843  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: April 23, 2019, 11:18:57 PM
^^^ Now that you have agreed with yourself like 100 times that a scientific theory doesn't mean that it's not true, let's state clearly what a scientific theory DOES mean. A scientific theory means that we don't know if it is true or not. And to clarify, the theory is real. The thing we don't know about is the object of the theory.

If some scientists happen to hold that BB theory is the best scientific theory, so what? All they are agreeing to is that they don't know. There are probably millions of potential science theories that they could think up. The fact that they have placed BB into theory status, only says that they don't know if its true or not.

Now, if you happen to want to go and worship scientists' thinking rather than finding out what is true and real, have at it. All I did regarding BBT is show you how it disproves itself. If there were scientists looking at my explanation, they could continue to hold BBT as a scientific theory, or they could go on to more productive things. Up to them.

And regarding you, since you don't refute the things that I showed regarding how BBT proves itself wrong, but rather go into some kind of a spiel about science theories, shows that you would rather maintain the stupidity status of not knowing, rather than finding out what is true and real.

Cool

Can you tell me one thing that is true with an 100% certainty? I'll wait here.
844  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 23, 2019, 11:18:04 PM
^^^ You're the idiot for claiming unproven theory is fact. Coulomb's inverse square law is something that can be demonstrated in the lab, gravity or more accurately relativity is unproven theory that has been falsified in the lab.

@born yesterday_stupid as fuck, get inside a Faraday cage then have it lowered into a lake.

An unproven law is not a fact and cannot be demonstrated in a lab, have you demonstrated it in a lab yourself or are you trusting information you read on the internet? If it has been falsified then recreate it and do it yourself, otherwise you are just trusting people for no reason.
845  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: April 23, 2019, 05:50:54 PM
^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

Cool

There would be no people, sick or not, if it weren't for vaccines since we would have probably died from some terrible disease that happened in the past and was stopped through vaccines, never through hygiene, clearly hygiene doesn't stop viruses, otherwise we would have gotten rid of the common cold by now and yet you keep arguing that it was good hygiene what stopped the other MUCH deadlier diseases but somehow it doesn't stop the common cold, logic 404 not found.

You have a point. Maybe someone in the future invented a bunch of time machines, and sent robot doctors into the past to inject all the people that live throughout all time before Pasteur.

 Grin

I guess the best thing to do is ignore the argument since you really have no argument. You keep arguing that it was hygiene that stopped all the other terrible diseases and not vaccines and yet we have simple viruses that are not eradicated even though we have far better hygiene than before.
846  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: April 23, 2019, 05:42:14 PM
^^^ That's what Quantum Theory tells us. Yet we have a difficult time doing some of the bizarre things that we should be able to do if QT is right. So, I guess there are some facts and some non-facts after all.

Among the facts is the fact that all atheists hate religion. The difference is that some of them don't know it, just like they don't know that God exists.

Cool

Quantum theory also tells us about truly random events that you don't seem to accept either because it doesn't fit your narrative of ''cause and effect'' which is NOT a scientific law but rather a philosophical thought so I guess you pick what you want to believe and what not based simply on your ideology and not the truth.
847  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 23, 2019, 05:39:58 PM
Earth's electric field defines up & down and provides the constraints that density and buoyancy work within. Coulomb's inverse square law quantifies the forces involved.

Isn't density and buoyancy based on gravity? Did you not read that pretty important part when you did your awesome research? Or are you actually this stupid? It's quite remarkable that you pick a few scientists and a few scientific laws to believe and disregard all the others, I wonder how your brain works.
848  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Science and Religion? on: April 23, 2019, 05:36:46 PM
^^^ So, you think you know everything, eh?

You can't even see the evidence, and you have a hard time allowing the Holy Spirit to work faith in your heart. You show us that you are missing a lot. Science shows it to you, as well.

Cool

You tell me to do my own research just to tell me that I think I know everything, make up your mind mate. If I don't agree with you it's because I can't see the evidence, heh not because you might be wrong, huh? Science shows me religion is bollocks, it has been doing it for thousands of years, debunking idiotic myths since forever.
849  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 23, 2019, 05:35:01 PM
The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!
The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

This made me cackle.

I doubt even Mueller read this entire report, that shit is INSANE. Still waiting for Theymos to awake from his (probably boring) time of reading this report and coming back with his findings.

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d
I think a few people will believe it, are these investigations fair?
The judiciary has become dominated by politics, and according to the interests of the authority comes out the final decision,
The investigation will be in favor of the Democrats ..
Just a little side note I'd like to write below:
Democrats in 2018: "You must accept the conclusions of the Mueller Report"

Democrats in 2019: "We want to impeach Trump, and we're going to disregard the Mueller report"
Also Democrats "NoN-ObStRuCtIoN iS ImPeAcHaBlE"

I fail to see the thinking here.


The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!
The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...
Flying Hellfish is a COMMIE.


Certainly, anyhow the most important part about the report is whether trump colluded with the russians or not and it's pretty clear in the report that he did not, end of the story, everything else is meaningless, the media has been saying trump is guilty since he was elected, they should be held accountable.
850  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: April 23, 2019, 05:33:04 PM
^^^ As usual, you are mistaken in many ways. Science doesn't do (hold) anything. Only scientists do that. This means that scientists might hold that BB is true, but the fact that they know it is a theory is a simple way to see that they do not know that it is true. If they tell you it is true, it is from lack of knowledge. When you add the part that I have shown you as to how BBT proves BB doesn't exist, then we see that BB is a hoax right along with evolution... the non-BB stealing away some of the credibility of ETE.

Since I showed you the Epic of Gilgamesh already, why don't you do us the favor of finding some more written evidence of the Flood. Oh, that's right. I almost forgot that you don't know how to do research... or accept it as fact when it is prove true.

Cool

Actually nope, as explained like 100 times, a scientific theory doesn't mean it's not true and also as explained 100 times you can never know anything with an 100% certainty so it's meaningless to talk about ''facts''
The FACT is that scientists still hold the big bang as the best theory and you keep saying they are proving more and more the theory to be wrong yet that's simply not true and you never provided any evidence of such because you are a fucking liar.
851  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: April 22, 2019, 08:54:47 PM

''We have the eye witness reports'' How do you know they are real? We cannot go back in time to verify them, can we?


But you can prove them out by using the scientific method on them, and then by:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. And proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool

How exactly? You can't measure or experiment with eye witnesses, where do you even start, are you just gonna ask someone if he knows someone that knows someone, etc until god? How can you test the bible for authenticity? You can't.

In this case you can. How? By checking out this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done... nationally coming back from the dead after 2,000 years of silence. When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate.

And this is only the start. There are things like fulfillment of prophesies, the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang, no proof for evolution, and all kinds of other things that have been shown to be accurate in the Bible. Often its the hidden discoveries - hidden because when they are discovered, science wants to hide them - that are showing the bible to be true more and more. Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood. Standard science wants to ignore them.

Cool

''this active nation that is miraculously doing what no other nation has ever done'' What is this even supposed to mean? - As usual, you neglect to quote my entire sentence, which has the answer in it.
''When you check out the importance of tradition in this nation, scientifically, you will find that scientifically, their stuff has to be accurate. '' What exactly can you test scientifically? Are we testing how important tradition is? What are we testing, give specifics, your talk is useless blabber. - Certainly you have heard about the science of DNA testing of a nation. There are loads of ways that nations are tested scientifically. Your self-proclaimed ignorance is astounding.
''the facts that science is indirectly proving the creation story by nullifying its own Big Bang'' Even if the Big Bang was proven to be inaccurate that won't prove creation, that's a fallacy, thinking that disproving one option automatically makes the other the truth. - Except that the way that BB proves itself to be wrong, is the same way that it proves the start of the creation story in Genesis to be right.
''shown to be accurate in the Bible'' Like what? Talking snakes? People coming back from the dead? What has ever been proven to be accurate in the Bible? - As usual, you neglect to quote my entire sentence, which has the answer in it.
''Nations all around the world have records of a worldwide flood'' Exactly the opposite, no other race has records of that flood, history books never talk about a flood.

For example, certainly you have heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh, yes? There are cave drawings that we scientifically term as prehistory, around the world, that depict the Flood.


However, thank you for such easy questions to answer. And actually, your questions help any reader who is really interested to focus his research a little better. So, thanks for the help, because my points are often too brief for the avid student.


Cool

''Except that the way that BB proves itself to be wrong, is the same way that it proves the start of the creation story in Genesis to be right'' Science still holds the big bang as the general theory of how the universe began to exist so I don't know where you heard we even started to prove the big bang is wrong.

''There are cave drawings that we scientifically term as prehistory, around the world, that depict the Flood'' You mean there are some drawings somewhere that depict some flood? That's it? A global flood and all you have is a painting somewhere? People knew how to write it in the bible but didn't know how to write about it anywhere else? LUL.



852  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: April 22, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.
853  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Science and Religion? on: April 22, 2019, 08:18:41 PM

Now why would I want to do that... show you the reports? You wouldn't acknowledge them even if your knew they were fact.

When you are finally destroyed, it will be by your own duplicity.

Cool

''even if'' Exactly, there are no reports of eye witnesses mate, there is only the bible which is a book, there is no way to prove the authenticity of the bible, you might even be able to prove the bible was in fact written thousand of years ago but you would still not prove its content is real.

Thank you. So, if the time ever comes that you want to understand, all you have to do is your own research.

Cool

I Already did, I read the bible and found it to be quite stupid, full of immoral codes and other idiotic mistakes not to mention all the scientific errors. Again, there is no evidence whatsoever that what's written in the bible is real, where are the eye witnesses exactly? They died thousands of years ago if they existed, are we gonna time travel?
854  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: April 22, 2019, 08:17:17 PM
^^^ Absolutely, science isn't the only religion, or the only part of the religion of which it is a part. The scientific method is one of the greatest parts of science for making it a religion. Why? Because science theories are part of the scientific method, and we know that science theories are not fact, just like you have been saying about the other religions.

Cool

Nothing is a fact, ever, therefore your argument is worthless and meaningless, you will never be able to prove anything to an 100% degree since you don't even know if you are truly alive or simply an illusion, a virtual entity, a program, perhaps the universe is matrix. Anyhow, the word fact is simply stupid. Again, you can read the definition of religion and science, it doesn't really matter what you say, the definitions are clear Smiley
855  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: April 22, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

Cool

There would be no people, sick or not, if it weren't for vaccines since we would have probably died from some terrible disease that happened in the past and was stopped through vaccines, never through hygiene, clearly hygiene doesn't stop viruses, otherwise we would have gotten rid of the common cold by now and yet you keep arguing that it was good hygiene what stopped the other MUCH deadlier diseases but somehow it doesn't stop the common cold, logic 404 not found.
856  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 22, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
Why people bring religion when there is an act from terrorist, terrorist group maybe from any religion so as muslims well so why need to blame the religion for some individual benefits.Muslim mosques were also bombed in recent days so what is the point on it.

Because the only terrorists other than religious terrorists are government agencies like the CIA and KGB. And government agencies aren't religions.

Cool

God is a terrorist himself. He uses terror to try to convince people to believe and worship him. It's clearly stated that you will go to hell to be tortured forever if you don't believe in God, if that's not using terror, I don't know what is. I mean he did kill 99% of people once, didn't he?
857  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 22, 2019, 08:11:46 PM
^^^ The reason why it is still gravity is, people don't go into consideration of Newton or Sagnac when they use gravity. They just use it. And they call it gravity because that is the word they were taught to call it.

For most people by far, gravity is an event thing. It isn't theories that discuss why it works the way it does, or why not.

All you are trying to do is mess up the minds of people. Your explanations of why gravity should be called something else don't have anything to do with flat Earth. Rather, they have to do with messing with the minds of people.

Cool

Things fall or sink because they're more dense than the air or water they're surrounded by; they're pushed down by the medium.

With government, schools, churches and the media all preaching the miracle of the globe in unison they need the magic of gravity to hold it all together. Telling people there's a giant ball below them with a magic force pulling them down to explain away the absurdity of sticking to a sphere while it spins in a vacuum, is the perfect example of gaslighting or, to "mess up the minds of people" as you so ineloquently put it.

There's a reason they can't explain what causes gravity, because the theory is 100% pure bullshit!

Prove it, you read that somewhere and believed it, why? Did you do any experiments yourself or do you just believe anything you read if it fits your narrative? How many experiments have you done using density which by the way requires gravity. You are a knucklehead and ignore the hard questions because you know you have done 0 experiments and you simply believe what you read online.
858  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: April 22, 2019, 04:03:04 PM
answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.

then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society.

And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being?
859  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: April 22, 2019, 04:02:07 PM
^^^ Thanks, man. It makes sense, though. People have been around a lot longer than vaccines, and in better health. It's basically poor higeine that makes people sick in a way that does real damage.

Cool

''It's basically poor higeine that makes people sick in a way that does real damage.'' Right, it's poor hygiene that spreads viruses and other diseases. How come in big cities people have the cold like 2-3 times per year with such a great hygiene compared to other countries and yet the rates are the same for both countries? Hygiene alone will simply not be able to get rid of certain viruses or diseases, no matter how good it is since they can spread simply by coughing or sneezing or touching another person.

Large amounts of vitamin D3, vitamin C, and the Omegas will take care of 90% of the simple colds and flu, etc., if there is proper hygiene.

Cool

Oh the old Vitamin C myth, seems like you didn't do your homework on this one, all vitamins will help against colds, Vitamin C is not special and taking vitamin C will not make you immune to colds, no matter how proper the hygiene is, you can't avoid coughing or sneezing, even if you stop them with your hands/arms, it will still leak, it's simply impossible to stop them even with perfect hygiene.  Get over it. If it's so easy, why haven't we stopped it yet?

I went and did my homework. I have found that you have been adversely affected by your vaccinations. This is shown in the fact that you can barely respond to something in its entirety, but would rather start a new idea that doesn't have anything to do with the previous idea.

Wake up and see that the vaccines are causing you to be duplicitous. Perhaps if you started on high doses of vitamin D3, vitamin C, and the Omegas, and add some EDTA plus minerals, it might clean the vaccine poisons out of your system somewhat, so that you can start to think truthfully... or in your case, truly think.

Cool

You are arguing that hygiene alone will stop colds yet you present no evidence of such. Are you suggesting countries with poor hygiene have more cases of cold? Why haven't we stopped the common cold then if we don't need vaccines and vaccines are poisonous and it's so easy to stop viruses, why haven't we?
860  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: April 22, 2019, 03:59:22 PM
^^^ Religion is the only reason why science is done at all. If people absolutely knew what the absolute future was going to be, they wouldn't need science, except to fulfill what they already knew. Since people don't know the future, science is only proving to be their religion for themselves.

Cool

''1The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

‘ideas about the relationship between science and religion’
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.1count noun A particular system of faith and worship.
‘the world's great religions’
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.2count noun A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.
‘consumerism is the new religion’''

No, science is not religion, science uses the scientific method to get to the truth, religion simply states things without any sort of evidence and fools believe it.
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