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841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 14, 2016, 03:54:39 PM

Sorry I have no time to dig for it. If you click through to all my posts on Synereo in about 4 threads total, you should find it in an exchange between Elokane and myself.

Ah, well hearing about some of the advancements since the white paper was written from the CEO is a good place.

Just hard to see where you came to your views.

As far as such speculation goes, only time will tell.

I wrote the specification is not public. The CEO admitted it. What is hard to understand.  Roll Eyes


My comment on your views had nothing to do with your statement about hearing news from Elokane.  It was regarding your unverified claims and assertions elsewhere.  There's room for differing opinions, of course.

However, while we're on that line, the info that you speak of was and is public; not being in the white paper does not change that.  Nor is Elokane the 'lead developer'.

Small changes, but important as to the potential for misinterpreting what you've said.

I stated we don't even know how the attention model will work because there are significant changes which are not holistically specified in a holistic document. That is a fact. Go refer to the discussion between Elokane and myself for the details. For example, it revolved around my observation that they would need to structure rep different for different #hashtags, which is no where in the whitepaper.

Elokane is the according to a Hangout I watched, credited by Greg as having the original idea and code, and Greg developed math to model and augment/formalize Elokane's initial work.

I have no idea who is the leader now, or if there is even one leader.
842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
The reason that programmers employ linked lists is precisely the reason we shouldn't ever use them. And analogously why we shouldn't use pointers. And thus why Rust is a major improvement because it allows us to avoid Java/JVM's "always boxed" design.

Stuff like integers overflowing, variables not having the precision they need, programs crashing due to idiotic stuff like divisions by zero, having buffers overflow etc etc - things like that are ridiculous and shouldn't even exist.

Impossible unless you want to forsake performance and degrees-of-freedom. There is a tension between infinite capability that requires 0 performance and 0 degrees-of-freedom.

Sorry some of the details of programming that you wish would disappear, can't.


Watch the video.
843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 14, 2016, 11:46:36 AM
This thread wasnt exactly created to give a fair and unbiased perspective of Dash

Where would any n00b investor[milking donor] get a fair and unbiased perspective (certainly not in Dash threads dominated by Dash pumpers) except from someone who is both expert and it not invested in any coin and who originally helped Evan devise his "solution" to the CoinJoin jamming problem which would have ostensibly plagued DarkCoin (aka Dash) at launch had I not helped him early on.

I turned against Dash when I discovered (significantly via this thread) that it is a blatant scam with horrendously bad technology, being pumped as the next great Evolution. That was just too much for me to ignore, especially after I found an egregious high school level probability error in the security guarantees in the InstantX whitepaper roughly 1 year after it had been released to the public.
844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 11:38:06 AM
The reason that programmers employ linked lists is precisely the reason we shouldn't ever use them. And analogously why we shouldn't use pointers. And thus why Rust is a major improvement because it allows us to avoid Java/JVM's "always boxed" design.

Edit: Sean Parent relates this concept more from its generative essence of memory locality trumping the big O time complexity of the data structure.
845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves on: April 14, 2016, 11:03:51 AM
Scorex is a toolkit to rapidly prototype new ideas and models for cryptocurrency development. Iohk's goal is to make scorex a pedagogical framework for universities and researchers to use to both teach students about cryptocurrencies and test new protocols quickly.

We will be making a major presentation in Corfu, Greece and attaching a university partner to the project soon.

Charles good luck with your project. I was amazed to see you (kushti actually) had afaik succeeded in using Scala to make a modular crypto-currency experimentation framework. I immediately suspected it was you when I first of heard of Waves some weeks ago.

Btw, I am (in all likelihood) abandoning Scala and thinking about Rust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg14495386#msg14495386
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg14496524#msg14496524

P.S. You know I am just a 2 hour flight from the Philippines to your HK office. Perhaps we will finally meet this year if we have a reason to or if I just happen to be in HK when you are also there.

Edit: I think you want to encourage open-source use of Scorex, so I'd lay off the defensiveness about the perceived (unintended, real, or otherwise) personal attacks. I would just stick to saying that you want to encourage open-source adoption and experimentation, but will not allow such uses to claim or imply endorsement by IOHK (by way of mentioning its employees for example) nor to claim or imply that Scorex is offered as a ready for prime-time commercial for-profit code base. Waves afaics (and has been quoted in this thread from their website) clearly misled the investment public and could clear this up by making a definitive disclaimer on their website.
846  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: April 14, 2016, 10:52:13 AM
What exactly do you define the Armstrong model as?  When Bitcoin Core devs get mad at me about some random technical disagreement, words like "come on, you're not omniscient" are usually said.  So are you saying that when I claim it's an error-prone, probablistic model, that's wrong?  What else could it possibly be?  Are you really going to assign omniscient traits to this guy's gambling system?

As for your website, it's kind of bizarre that I have similar conclusions involving AI that you did, almost word for word in the David Latapite "transhumanism" thread from a year ago where I said true AI is impossible without human evolution, except in probably more detail.  Then the actual, real danger of AI or attempts to create it is in the last paragraph.  From my post:

[...]

The unbounded attribute of the universe appears to be fractal, i.e. patterns within patterns. So the unbounded entropy is in the small, not in the large. This is why Armstrong points out that short-term cycles (e.g. day trading) are much more noisy (i.e. randomized). The higher-level the cycles in time, the less random the deviation.

So while A.I. will eventually emulate much of what it can observe that a set of humans can do, it can't (unless it becomes integrated within evolution and competitive reproduction) make every copy of itself a unigue solution to the unbounded evolutionary fitness continuum. The unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum are not carried within the genome and dynamic living network of A.I. bots, because for one thing they are discrete and not analog biological. The complexity/entropy of a living creature is unbounded in the unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum.

Here is the key point. Nature is not top-down controlled and there is no 'error' as every variation is information to the evolutionary continuum. A.I. would need to become alive in the sense that it is a self-reproducing, self-motivated, decentralized process controlled by no one. Then it would no longer be ARTIFICIAL intelligence.

So Armstrong has correlated the large fractal pattern cycles which are stable as is man's lifespan, reproductive maturity, Sun spots cycles, Earth's various cycles such as earthquakes, etc..
847  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 14, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
What exactly do you define the Armstrong model as?  When Bitcoin Core devs get mad at me about some random technical disagreement, words like "come on, you're not omniscient" are usually said.  So are you saying that when I claim it's an error-prone, probablistic model, that's wrong?  What else could it possibly be?  Are you really going to assign omniscient traits to this guy's gambling system?

As for your website, it's kind of bizarre that I have similar conclusions involving AI that you did, almost word for word in the David Latapite "transhumanism" thread from a year ago where I said true AI is impossible without human evolution, except in probably more detail.  Then the actual, real danger of AI or attempts to create it is in the last paragraph.  From my post:

[...]

The unbounded attribute of the universe appears to be fractal, i.e. patterns within patterns. So the unbounded entropy is in the small, not in the large. This is why Armstrong points out that short-term cycles (e.g. day trading) are much more noisy (i.e. randomized). The higher-level the cycles in time, the less random the deviation.

So while A.I. will eventually emulate much of what it can observe that a set of humans can do, it can't (unless it becomes integrated within evolution and competitive reproduction) make every copy of itself a unigue solution to the unbounded evolutionary fitness continuum. The unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum are not carried within the genome and dynamic living network of A.I. bots, because for one thing they are discrete and not analog biological. The complexity/entropy of a living creature is unbounded in the unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum.

Here is the key point. Nature is not top-down controlled and there is no 'error' as every variation is information to the evolutionary continuum. A.I. would need to become alive in the sense that it is a self-reproducing, self-motivated, decentralized process controlled by no one. Then it would no longer be ARTIFICIAL intelligence.

So Armstrong has correlated the large fractal pattern cycles which are stable as is man's lifespan, reproductive maturity, Sun spots cycles, Earth's various cycles such as earthquakes, etc..
848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 14, 2016, 10:50:09 AM
What exactly do you define the Armstrong model as?  When Bitcoin Core devs get mad at me about some random technical disagreement, words like "come on, you're not omniscient" are usually said.  So are you saying that when I claim it's an error-prone, probablistic model, that's wrong?  What else could it possibly be?  Are you really going to assign omniscient traits to this guy's gambling system?

As for your website, it's kind of bizarre that I have similar conclusions involving AI that you did, almost word for word in the David Latapite "transhumanism" thread from a year ago where I said true AI is impossible without human evolution, except in probably more detail.  Then the actual, real danger of AI or attempts to create it is in the last paragraph.  From my post:

[...]

The unbounded attribute of the universe appears to be fractal, i.e. patterns within patterns. So the unbounded entropy is in the small, not in the large. This is why Armstrong points out that short-term cycles (e.g. day trading) are much more noisy (i.e. randomized). The higher-level the cycles in time, the less random the deviation.

So while A.I. will eventually emulate much of what it can observe that a set of humans can do, it can't (unless it becomes integrated within evolution and competitive reproduction) make every copy of itself a unigue solution to the unbounded evolutionary fitness continuum. The unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum are not carried within the genome and dynamic living network of A.I. bots, because for one thing they are discrete and not analog biological. The complexity/entropy of a living creature is unbounded in the unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum.

Here is the key point. Nature is not top-down controlled and there is no 'error' as every variation is information to the evolutionary continuum. A.I. would need to become alive in the sense that it is a self-reproducing, self-motivated, decentralized process controlled by no one. Then it would no longer be ARTIFICIAL intelligence.

So Armstrong has correlated the large fractal pattern cycles which are stable as is man's lifespan, reproductive maturity, Sun spots cycles, Earth's various cycles such as earthquakes, etc..
849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
AlexGR:

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-a-unique-standardized-programming-language


850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The altcoin topic everyone wants to sweep under the rug on: April 14, 2016, 07:51:17 AM
Seriously though, is there any reason for me to invest in Dash, given the evidence? (genuine question)

Because it might go up in value?

If you are looking for long term success, no, there is not really a basis to expect that, and the disreputable background documented here only makes that less likely.

If you are looking for short term swings, sure, go for it if your research supports it and you can afford the risk.

Be careful if you are playing big though. The liquidity in Dash is quite poor, both relative to the market cap and in absolute terms. Most likely because the vast majority of the coin supply doesn't ever hit the market, it is HODLed by instaminers and early adopters who have it locked up in masternodes.

For small-size trading where you try to time the market and don't need to worry much about liquidity, it can be as good as anything else.

And also given the level of insider control alleged, we don't know if the Dash liquidity is faked. So actual liquidity may be even worse than advertised.

Every day you have hanging over your investment the extra risk that FinCEN, State of Arizona, or the SEC could announce an investigation.
851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 14, 2016, 07:48:49 AM
Seriously though, is there any reason for me to invest in Dash, given the evidence? (genuine question)

Because it might go up in value?

If you are looking for long term success, no, there is not really a basis to expect that, and the disreputable background documented here only makes that less likely.

If you are looking for short term swings, sure, go for it if your research supports it and you can afford the risk.

Be careful if you are playing big though. The liquidity in Dash is quite poor, both relative to the market cap and in absolute terms. Most likely because the vast majority of the coin supply doesn't ever hit the market, it is HODLed by instaminers and early adopters who have it locked up in masternodes.

For small-size trading where you try to time the market and don't need to worry much about liquidity, it can be as good as anything else.

And also given the level of insider control alleged, we don't know if the Dash liquidity is faked. So actual liquidity may be even worse than advertised.

Every day you have hanging over your investment the extra risk that FinCEN, State of Arizona, or the SEC could announce an investigation.
852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 14, 2016, 07:44:07 AM

Sorry I have no time to dig for it. If you click through to all my posts on Synereo in about 4 threads total, you should find it in an exchange between Elokane and myself.

Ah, well hearing about some of the advancements since the white paper was written from the CEO is a good place.

Just hard to see where you came to your views.

As far as such speculation goes, only time will tell.

I wrote the specification is not public. The CEO admitted it. What is hard to understand.  Roll Eyes



Pyschopath DecentralizedEconomics has been put on Ignore and it has already been explained to him numerous times why and the evidence of his behavior is in another thread.
853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 07:30:28 AM
1. Core: no any protection against any DDoS atm. Peer blacklisting is just done(in 1.2.3). Networking layer is quite raw. Other things in the core are seem to be pretty OK.

I wrote a small paper on DDoS protection:

https://github.com/shelby3/hashsig/blob/master/DDoS%20Defense%20Employing%20Public%20Key%20Cryptography.md

I argued to Gmaxwell at al that Bitcoin's DDoS protection is insufficient as it scales.

[...]
854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: April 14, 2016, 07:27:43 AM
[...]

Sorry to Charles, but I have explained in technical detail in the Ethereum Paradox thread why I think Ethereum is a grandiose technobabble deception/clusterfuck. The Casper consensus algorithm insolubly flawed conceptual crap isn't validated. Vitalik entirely ignores my technical criticism, even I had put it in front of his face a few times already. What peer review. I am not too thrilled about them throwing $18 million down a rat hole then coming back for more by pumping some technobabble that can't work decentralized without destroying Nash equilibrium.
855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves on: April 14, 2016, 07:17:55 AM
1. Core: no any protection against any DDoS atm. Peer blacklisting is just done(in 1.2.3). Networking layer is quite raw. Other things in the core are seem to be pretty OK.

I wrote a small paper on DDoS protection:

https://github.com/shelby3/hashsig/blob/master/DDoS%20Defense%20Employing%20Public%20Key%20Cryptography.md

I argued to Gmaxwell at al that Bitcoin's DDoS protection is insufficient as it scales.

there are only 1.5 seriously validated systems(... and partly Ethereum).

Sorry to Charles, but I have explained in technical detail in the Ethereum Paradox thread why I think Ethereum is a grandiose technobabble deception/clusterfuck. The Casper consensus algorithm insolubly flawed conceptual crap isn't validated. Vitalik entirely ignores my technical criticism, even I had put it in front of his face a few times already. What peer review. I am not too thrilled about them throwing $18 million down a rat hole then coming back for more by pumping some technobabble that can't work decentralized without destroying Nash equilibrium.
856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The altcoin topic everyone wants to sweep under the rug on: April 14, 2016, 07:07:45 AM
Just curious, and not looking to get into a long-running discussion over this, but if Waves is domiciled in Europe somewhere isn't it really the responsibility of US investors to obey US laws, not some foreign organization?

IANAL, but apparently US law goes after the issuers if they market them to non-accredited US investors. There may be details and exceptions. There is an entire thread on this topic.

Secondly, they are selling tokens, not shares in a corporation. How is what they're doing different then selling any other token (postage stamps, old coins) or commodity that goes up and down in value?

That linked thread explains the Supreme Court Howey test. Key criteria is the n00b (non-accredited) investors are relying on the future actions of issuer for the expectations of profits.
857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves on: April 14, 2016, 07:05:09 AM
Just curious, and not looking to get into a long-running discussion over this, but if Waves is domiciled in Europe somewhere isn't it really the responsibility of US investors to obey US laws, not some foreign organization?

IANAL, but apparently US law goes after the issuers if they market them to non-accredited US investors. There may be details and exceptions. There is an entire thread on this topic.

Secondly, they are selling tokens, not shares in a corporation. How is what they're doing different then selling any other token (postage stamps, old coins) or commodity that goes up and down in value?

That linked thread explains the Supreme Court Howey test. Key criteria is the n00b (non-accredited) investors are relying on the future actions of issuer for the expectations of profits.



traumschiff added to my Ignore list for replying to a discussion/debate of the facts with an ad hominem attack. Attacking a person, is not a rebuttal of the facts under debate. It is non-informational noise.

AltcoinScamfinder added to my Ignore list for replying with an ad hominem attack to my post pointing out the high correlation between those who have ICO coins in their signature (or are known ICO promoters) to attack me with ad hominem posts devoid of any discussion of merit, when I mention US securities law. Appears from his signature line that he promoting crypto gambling; perhaps there is some connection to ICO coins in his vested interests.
858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 06:59:13 AM
I'm not sure the deal with Pascal, I never use it.

I haven't studied carefully your discussion, but afair Pascal enables one to strictly declare the bounds of the variables, so that would enable more optimization by eliminating certain edge cases. Pascal is a more structured language. That has benefits and tradeoffs.
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 14, 2016, 06:53:41 AM
Hehe, tech shop in my thread. Cool.

Feeling strong again today. Have more Oregano oil on mail order tomorrow so I can maintain the high doses.

60 points on "Mamba Out". Had to grab my basketball for a few minutes even though my right rotator cuff is not entirely healed yet, but I easily elevated 25" without a warm up (age 51 in June), so I am excited to see what is still possible (maybe by next month start training again).

We'll be probably seeing Kobe potentially as a mogul in social media.

What a way to go out, dazzling glimpses of the younger Kobe. Great way to start my day (except for the brownout which forced me to watch only the highlights from 4th quarter on YouTube).
860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 14, 2016, 06:43:06 AM
When you come to understand that 'matter' emerges from two dimensions of the frequency domain continuum (<-- my blog post) and that without friction then the speed-of-light would be infinite and the past and future would collapse into the same infinitesimal point of nothingness, then you understand everything in our universe is cyclical. The cyclical order is hidden in multi-dimensions of correlation, i.e. the Strange Attractor in Chaos Theory.

This is at the level of importance as Einstein's discovery of the Theories of Relativity.
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