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8521  Economy / Gambling / Re: I tried my luck again in yobit dice game..But ended to lose on: December 11, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
This is pretty much what I am talking about. If you look at the bets, it look like 50% are wins and 50% are losses. However most of the winners are winning 1 Satoshi or 1 Doge. However the losers are like this guy losing an entire 0.15BTC.

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But there is one more thing, someone betting 0.15 must have gambled a lot and know about yobit's dice game. Personally I also feel that their game is rigged because I played there earlier when I deposit some bitcoins to buy alt coins but if someone is betting 0.15 surely he trusts the dice game there.

Probably that guy has lots of BTC so he doesn't care about losing 0.15. I have no other explanation for this because evryone knows that playing dice game on yobit is not ecommended to say the least. For me 0.15 is a huge amount and I would never risk it on any gambling site, let alone dice game on yobit.


Thats totally huge and i cant imagine the feeling if i lose on such kind of fairness matters, and i wouldn't truly gamble if i know that the site has shaddy reputation, and also im kinda bit away from yobit since both their exchange and dice or shall we say overall service sucks, they are so laggy on my phone thats why i never bother to visit them again, thats why we should stay away if we knew that this kind of state is not fair to us since surely the owner of the site has just fooling us and end up we lose more money if we continue to play.
You have a point and I strongly agreed with you.If we already knew regarding on the feedbacks on yobits dice then why we should risk our money to play there? Since there are lots of dice sites to choose from which is somehow safer and provably fair compared to them. I agree with most users here that yobits dice game is somehow rigged even if you set the odds on 50% the results are still negative.
8522  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hack Into BitDice And Get 1BTC! on: December 11, 2016, 02:57:41 PM
so what exactly do we have to do to get 1 btc?
login into hack_me account? disrupt the site's operation? manipulate a bet's outcome?
its rather vague to be honest


You only need to login with that account then you can withdraw the available balance on the account (1btc). Sounds simple, right? But the hard thing to do is to login because you need confirmation email to login.
Whoever able to acces the email of the account then he will get the 1btc easily.
It sounds really simple since admin do give already the log-in details but the authorization will really bet you down your make you itch on your head since you don't have the password on the particular email which means you would really need to bruteforce it but it would be a 1 in a million chance or 0% at all. We all know that emails is very hard to hack.
8523  Economy / Gambling / Re: New gambling game when you win always (Beta) on: December 11, 2016, 02:19:41 PM
since you are not technically "always winning" in this game you should consider changing your title and other places that you may have said this.

i see others have said this but i don't see anyone suggestion any substitute. my suggestion would be something like "you never leave empty handed" that is more "technically correct."

That's what i've tried to explain from the start of this topic. Instead to state that you will never loose, is better and more honest to state that you will never get ZERO in return, so at least you can have back a part of your stake.
Let's see if that will be updated Wink
Topic title doesn't update as of now and I could really say that its really misleading and somehow a clickbait. hehe. I cant really believe on which a gambling game that you win always and as other members said here that its rather a charity than a gambling site. Ive tried to visit the site im always searching for FAQ and provably fair before I tend to test it out.
8524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you suspect a Ponzi disguised as cloud mining... on: December 11, 2016, 01:34:19 PM
Ever since HashOcean went awol, I've been more than sceptical about cloud mining and the purchasing of "powers" and investing in pools with other investors. I know the ROI of most cloud mining sites is impossible to achieve with mining alone. I've recently invested a small/safe amount into a new site and I'm literally watching my balance grow. That is why I post this question.

yes its good to get out asap from that cloud mining but if we get out asap, we can't take our investment and i think its worth to watching our balance grow and if we reach the minimal amount to withdraw then we should withdraw it and wait for the other minimal amount, until we reach ROI. i think we should search the info about the site and read the review before we make investment on that site and only make invest for the money we are ready to loss in someday.
Its possible to do such steps but doesn't even guarantee to make money because some closes for a short period of time on which our investments are haven't reach out the roi yet even we are compounding our profits it may work for longer operations but this is the risk that we should really take if we intend to do such techniques to earn smartly from Ponzi sites.
8525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: December 10, 2016, 08:33:09 AM
Do you play dice manually, using autobet or third party bot?
If you play using built in autobet what features options you consider most important?
I usually play dice in manual because its easy to win and you can change your bet anytime you want. The important you must to do once your bitcoin double stop playing withdraw your profit. Then come back again tomorrow to play dont play long so that you can not lose.

Manual playing = easy win? Nope, it does not make senses. The result is not based on how you play whether manual or using autobet. It based on your luck, indeed you have the advantages when you play manually because you can 100% control your own bet and emotions but it cant change your luck.
Correct it doesn't really guarantee a win even what method we do use its either manual or automated results would be still the same depending on how much luck do you have on that particular day or time.I agree with you the advantage on having manual betting is you do have the full control on when you will stop a particular bet or play to stop further more loss or securing your profits already.

you are right you do have full control if you do use manual betting because you can stop it or just increase or lower you bet unlike automated betting  you dont have really the full control to stop it in that phase. As my self I do prefer manual because I do have controls and also I can change my bet on that game and make it higher or lower
You really do have the full control when you are playing on manual mode compare on doing automated betting. Just like what you have said you could able to change your bet lower or higher depending on your current state on your gambling game and also its enjoyable to play on manual than automated.
8526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: December 10, 2016, 07:58:38 AM
Do you play dice manually, using autobet or third party bot?
If you play using built in autobet what features options you consider most important?
I usually play dice in manual because its easy to win and you can change your bet anytime you want. The important you must to do once your bitcoin double stop playing withdraw your profit. Then come back again tomorrow to play dont play long so that you can not lose.

Manual playing = easy win? Nope, it does not make senses. The result is not based on how you play whether manual or using autobet. It based on your luck, indeed you have the advantages when you play manually because you can 100% control your own bet and emotions but it cant change your luck.
Correct it doesn't really guarantee a win even what method we do use its either manual or automated results would be still the same depending on how much luck do you have on that particular day or time.I agree with you the advantage on having manual betting is you do have the full control on when you will stop a particular bet or play to stop further more loss or securing your profits already.
8527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many BTC do you gamble with? on: December 10, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
I always gamble with a small amount, and I never gamble more than 0.1 bitcoin. I usually gamble around 0.04 bitcoin but I do bet a minimum amount. That I did, so I can gamble several times. I rarely and almost never gamble in large numbers because I just want to play, so I never had to spend a lot bitcoin to gamble because I also care about my bitcoin.

It's something that's very good friend, for if we do small bets then what we get in the gambling will not make our lives changed, due to the vagaries of us wrong in gambling. Indeed we can benefit greatly when we do a big bet, but that they also have a greater risk of losing rather than other things. So, gambling not only gives us an advantage, but it also gives us great harm if we do wrong game
Yes, a big bet very risky and I do not dare take that risk. Because if I lose certainly going to spend very much bitcoin so they can make me into a loss. If I bet a small amount if I lose, I will not lose a lot of bitcoin and I can play a several times. Gambling with small bets is perfect for me that gamble just for fun. You're right, gambling large amounts can indeed provide big profits but also a big loss.

Profits and Loses would really vary on your bet and you are right if you do bet on big amounts you will lose big also and if on small amount its still the same.In my own playing style I do choose only betting on small amount and not risking too much money since I cant really afford to lose up big money since im thinking on future uses of my money that's why im scared to risk it and its better to play for fun rather than aiming for money.
8528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 10, 2016, 06:51:10 AM
When you guys are gambling and already doubled your bankroll, do you still play with the whole money you got or you take away half of your bankroll and start playing with your profit or not?
ya and i wouldn't let all my money gone if lost, if i only use my profit, at least my capital still safe even i lost all of it. it maybe only wasting time but know that my money is safe, already good for me
With that, you must be contented with what you can win an be focus on your game plan. Some of us does not have that kind of attitude towards gambling, we gamble to win but we do not have a specific game plan to follow, hence it will make us lose in the long run due to our greediness.

You cannot just play the play if you are hoping success in the long run, treat gambling seriously like how you manage a successful business.
Being contented and not becoming greedy is a good way to be profitable on playing gambling since chances of winning do rarely exist and it depends on the luck you have. Greediness will surely put you down if you let this emotion or attitude will overcome you because this will lead to bet you even more because you are seeking for more profits or money which is really bad.
8529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: December 10, 2016, 06:02:11 AM
I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(
Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

That's impossible for just a single day unless you will have a winning streak when you are recovering your losses. But still you are fighting for your fortune and luck when you are recovering your losses. And most of the time, we are still losing when we are hoping to recover our losses. That is why everyone is just losing in the end.

that is when greediness prevailed you are right that hoping to recover losses will only result to more losses and it is very impossible to get back what you have loss the day after that instances but instead you are more likely to lose a certain amount again for the second time .
Chasing losses is really a very very bad idea because it will push you to bet even more because of the aims you had and this thing will normally lead you to lose even more same as you stated which is correct. Recovering losses is impossible in my own opinion even though there are times that you could able to recover but you will eventually lose up again. That's why its important not to chase and just let that lose called it enough for today.
8530  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: December 09, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
The only secret about this thing is hard work. Most of the people here in this forum are not just earning on signature campaign just to grow their bitcoin but they are doing a lot of things to earn bitcoin like trading and investing for example. They are searching everyday on how they are going to earn cryptocurrencies to easily multiply their earnings everyday. They are also taking the risk because how would you know what will going to happen if you are not going to try, right? It is better to do something and take the risk than to do nothing at all.
Most people here on this forum are actually everyday seeking for new methods and ways to earn bitcoin same as you said and we keep doing that on daily basis because its really the nature of human to find much more better ways that will benefit him. It does really need hardwork because without it your plans or aims would be useless.
8531  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: December 09, 2016, 04:15:12 PM
Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.

Well I agree that trading is not for everybody though everbody can "trade".  The fact that not everyone knows how to make a successful trade is beneficial to those who knows how.  Reason is that, this people who does not know how to trade will lose money while those who know how to trade can just catch those money lose by newbie traders.  It is alway an equilibrium, someone lose and someon win. So people who are veterans in this industry always invites newbie and make it so easy so that whenever this new comer took the bait, it is late for them to noticed that trading is not for them.
You are right on some points but not actually those newbie traders are just food for veteran traders. Its never too late to engage into trading since it will exist for longer periods of time as long there are currencies that are being trade off.Theres always does a equilibrium on most things. Trading is really an unpredictable job because of the endless tug of war of both sellers and buyers.
8532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 100 years from today on: December 09, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
If bitcoin is still around then, the number 2 will be litecoin.

It depends imo. Litecoin will need to keep getting developed. Is Litecoin still getting updates? will they get lighting network and sidechains too? They need to keep working on it if they want to be the real silver of crypto, otherwise it will keep stagnating to 0 just like the rest of alts.
I would like to ask the same thing too on LTC on which they will really need to focus more on their development in able to recognize by people and investors but still its really good that it could able to withstand for longer years as of now on which LTC is still standing and its not actually a totally useless alt. Bitcoin could able still to survive on next 100 years together with new cryptos for sure.
8533  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex Trading on: December 09, 2016, 02:29:50 PM
Now the days, Forex trading with the bitcoin deposit and withdrawal options are available with almost every Forex broker. I guess Instaforex is having options to withdraw funds using bitcoin from some four years back itself.

Forex trading is good only when we are having more skill on trading, that may be the one of the reason I still stick with crypto trading
Tradersway broker is also accepting bitcoin when you tend to trade on forex and ive tried it already I could say transaction goes smooth and without any problems but the main concern here is on how to trade forex and same as other members said here forex trading does really need enough amount of knowledge because if you jumped in without any idea to trade you will surely waste your money because market will surely eat you.
8534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I bet you have never lost more than this !!! on: December 09, 2016, 01:48:33 PM
i am always skeptical about these types of stats. i mean look at it the bets are all either 24BTC or 48BTC and the sites says that he has lost 216BTC who the hell loses 165,000 USD on gambling online?

you have to either be filthy rich and don't care about that kind of money that you easily lose or you have to be a hacker like bitfinex hacker with thousands of bitcoin to burn!!!

Who loses that kind of money on online gambling you say? Well him and many others, I see people losing hundreds of btc on dice sites. Gamblers are gamblers and they need help.
We cant really do a thing about it since its his decision to bet like that even most people would really say that betting style is insane and losing such big amount on a particular day does really hurts on my own side and I suppose that man is already aware on that kind of situation maybe hes too rich to make those bettings like that but I cant really comprehend that kind of amount since I could able to buy a mini car on that bitcoin.
8535  Economy / Services / Re: BitDice Casino Signature Campaign [WILL START 1 DECEMBER] on: December 07, 2016, 06:19:52 AM
From Full Member im already Sr.Member i already update my signature code thanks please do update my rank for the next round thank you.
Unfortunately you have been removed by manager from this signature campaign, please check the spreadsheet.
That's what im trying to say to him regarding on his post on which hes been removed already on the spreadsheet because on some other reason. @gribble maybe he didn't read the spreadsheet that's why hes still assuming that hes a member on this campaign. Sad to hear but its managers decision.
8536  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: December 07, 2016, 05:15:38 AM
Off course it wont affec tthe forum martket i think it will only stimulate the people who are using the forum martket just everyone wants to pay with the bitcoin also on steam!
It wont really affect the forum market and theres no relation between the adoption and the forum market itself. It will surely stimulate people especially to those people who are always buying steam credits  will surely got curios if they saw about bitcoin but some will surely check it first and might got their interest or not.
8537  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Removed from yobit campaign, yobit said to contact BitcoinTalk on: December 07, 2016, 03:18:02 AM
Sorry for your loss OP. I wonder how many users are still into yobit like me.
Their campaign has been up since time actually and they do pay every day thus its a better campaign than the rest. I say the best and would be mad sad if i'd be removed too. Some are even trying to buy users enrolled to their campaign.

Try bitmixer, its a good campaign.
If OP got removed on yobit signature campaign because of some reasons like spam,one liner post,irrelevant etc. and you suggested him to join bitmixer then he would got easily banned by Lauda for sure unless if he improved his post  quality.He will be putted on SMAS blacklist. Well Yobit is a good campaign but I do notice there are really some spammers that why its just right to remove them to the campaign.
8538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: December 06, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Please post here to cry about your gambling losses. No bragging about winnings or tips please, this is only for pure crying, whining, complaining, and venting your frustrations.

This thread had to be made because there are too many crying threads, this should help save forum space.

I believe this thread should be stickied as well.

What a very great topic this makes me feel at home Cry i want to cry for losing so much in gambling games i really hate gambling games because sometimes they are a scam to players they don't easily let us win but they take and take money from us it really is a pain in the heart that you work hard to earn bitcoin and then gambling takes it all why oh why gambling is so hard i want to hack the gambling games and take them all i want to win in gambling, i don't want to lose anymore in gambling it is just one hard thing to do i really want my bitcoin back i bet and bet but nothing happened i am starting to lose hope in gambling Cry
It does not speak for your action, the fact that you are promoting a gambling site you definitely love to gamble or maybe you have been addicted that you hate losing but you want to gamble, either of the two could be true but what I can advise unto you is that learn to enjoy gambling and that can be achieve if you treat it as purely entertainment. That's the only way, believe me.


That could make them at ease, but as i've seen on social media's people asking experience gambling on how to win and then they applied but turn lose,  but truly we don't really need that since gambling is purely on luck matters, but as you said if we treat as pure ways to have fun for a short time surely we cannot go to the level that we lost huge money enough for us to cry out loud,
but there are people which they bet huge amounts and don't mind if they already risking huge amounts already and that's the reality and I can see some of them who really does that thing. Usually they don't cry and tend to keep silent rather than crying since they already know the consequences that may happen if they intend to bet further more.
8539  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 05, 2016, 12:08:33 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
how can you determine losing to be part of a successful trade.First learn the market and then start trading so that you wont lose your hard earned money.Never trade with your money without knowing the market and that is not how you gain experience.It is called stupidity

Even the most experienced traders lose on certain trades, but they are thriving on the years of experience. These traders are making a decent amount of profit with the majority of their correct trades, and thus build up some sort of a buffer where they can eat through losing trades without any problems. Exactly this is what seperates excellent traders from hobby and occasional traders. And yes, there are a lot people just buying at random prices without any thought behind their actions. These people will eventually learn by paying a very high price.
losses is part of trade, and we have to see this fact as true in our mind. Our saving grace should be a good and proper money management. Many trader got they entered capital wiped out because of this.
The main thing why most traders wipeout their money is because they jump in into trading without any proper knowledge this is the main thing because they believe that they could able to make money on easy way. We should really learn first and losses are part of the game on trading and we should treat it as an stepping stone.
8540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 05, 2016, 08:59:59 AM
According to me no matter which the smart way in gambling, because there will never be a special tricks in order to win. no experience at all with gambling can also win and defeat the skilled. We just hope the luck when gambling.
That's true, it doesn't depend on the experience we have in gambling because luck will do the rest especially in dice games and roulette. But there are ways we can minimize our losses and also risks, and I think that is what playing gamble smartly.

If we are talking about dice game, than definitely, dice game don't need experience, it is purely depend on luck.
And Personally, I feel many games like sports betting, even we have experience but we mustily need luck, because luck is main thing to win in gambling, Otherwise gambling don't need bad luck man.
It's true, any method we use will only work in a short time but in the long run we will be beaten by the house edge. I would not spend so much time with dice as the longer you play the more chances you lose, better beat on other games if you seek to have chance to make profit. Never do in games where there's a house edge, they are good to have fun only.
This is true methods and strategies will somehow work on the first time but it wont really last on the long run and you will really got busted by the house. All gambling games do have house edge except to those games which have 0% but I think most games do have house edge because gambling sites do make profits on its house edge. Smart way is you know when to stop specially when you make profits or losing up too much.
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