Best argument i can see here is perhaps google translate got it wrong too?
We're pretending now that you can't read Russian?  What he seems to be saying is that (unlike sanctions after invasion) pressure needs to be applied to Russia to discourage it from using nuclear weapons, and not wait until it uses them (like sanctions after invasion). FWIW I don't think that makes much sense because Putin is about as irrational as it gets and doesn't need a reason or discouragement to use or not to use nukes, but nowhere in that sentence does Zelensky call for a preemptive nuclear strike. He's talking about preventing a nuclear strike. You realize that you don't have to keep Z a saint and agree with every thing that he says, you can hold on to any remaining credibility you have left and just not comment, or argue that he made a mistake being under all that pressure etc... there are options besides everything Z says is holier than thou
I've never said or implied any of that, so it seems that you've ran out of arguments on the subject if you need to resort to making more shit up. I've pointed out that his office explained his position... whether he misspoke or was misunderstood or mistranslated or was just plain wrong - is irrelevant, and continuing to push the idea that he wants to start a nuclear war is absurd. And FFS make up your mind - is Zelia NATO/EU puppet, or is he puppeting NATO? As for his holiness: I've pointed out many times that Kremlin's obsession with Zelensky's persona and every word he says (or Kremlin makes up about him) doesn't make sense and seems to be based on Putin's "tsar" image. That's not how a real president's office - with term limits and whatnot - works. Zelensky will be gone and Ukraine will still not love Russia. Go figure. Things Putin fan boys freak out about: Zelensky has money in other countries. Zelensky has big house. Zelensky made a statement that can be twisted into Nuclear threat. Azov battalion has ties to neo nazis. Meanwhile, Wagner group has ties to neo nazi, and they are many times bigger than Azov. Putin has many times more money than Z. Putin has many houses many times bigger than Z. Putin has been making nuclear threats for 10+ years. What they should be concerned about is who is better looking and who has more global approval. The Crimean bridge is 'out of service'.
Sorry for the inconvenience. ROFL.
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Out for a while. Got back and re-evaluating. I feel it time for another explainer on what is actually going on for those who get most of their info from the [J/N]ews.
As I said near the start of this thing, Russia has no reason to have any interest in most areas of Ukroidistan. Who (aside from a particular tribe who embrace a religion which celebrates genocide) would want anything to do with a underdeveloped shit-hole full of nazis and scammers? It makes no sense and never did.
NATO had their Ukroid tools play weak in hopes that Russia would over-extend. As I predicted, Russia didn't. They more or less sat on their hands for months and let the people who really wanted to fight (Wagner, Chechens, etc) do the minimal attacks. Of course they picked off massive numbers of Ukdroids and armor with distance techniques.
When the Russians did move back they just use the Mongolian defense strategy of vacating and wiping out the attackers en-mass. In addition to the creation of future 'cauldrons' thehe happy side effects of this are two-fold:
- The waves of attacking Ukriods (and more and more, NATO) make a target rich environment.
- The mock-victories give the dumb-fucks a false sense of progress and they act in an even more reckless way. Arranging this scenario in more than one place simultaneously more than doubles the effect as NATO has to split the depleted resources (primarily Slavic biomass) down even more.
There are several reasons why the killed ratio is almost certainly better than 10/1 in Russia's favor. One is simple skill, patience, and tactics. The other, as I've said before, is that to the Ziocon designers the ratio is not a bug; it's a feature.
Russia probably does want and probably will have Kharkiv as a buffer zone at the least. And they will get it without a fight. They seem to be following my own cynical advice from some months ago: Let the NaZiocons back in to oversea the secret police murders and a dark cold winter while their now-Russian former neighbors fill themselves on piping hot borscht. Internal revolution by spring. Just have to make sure that if there is a 'peace deal', it includes a referendum in Kharkiv.
It remains as much a mystery to me as ever whether the Russians will take Odessa. If they don't I will be even more suspicious that this thing has been a scheme all along to arrange for what (((they))) refer to as the 'Heavenly Jerusalem Project' and Putin has been in on it all along. The wanton depopulation of the Slavic populations in terms of the 'tactics' employed by the leadership it's already pretty suspicious.
Or maybe you're wrong. Russia does keep keeps losing land. They're had to give up on cities they've occupied since the spring - they were getting ready to start school with all the new Russian curriculum. And then all the sudden the Russian military has to run away to avoid being encircled. Russian installed deputy head of Kherson region posted a video saying Putins defense minister should kill himself because he's fucked things up so badly. Feel like that guy isn't going to be alive much longer either way. The Nintendo Wiibloggers, who have been pushing Kremlin lines for years to millions are freaking out at how shitty Russias military is from top to bottom. State media is starting to ask where all the funds went that were supposed to be invested in the military. (Although, I think they know the answer to that question) You're more loyal to Putin than most of his own people. |
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I don't think anyone is saying you technically owe OP any money. Your reputation is due to you being a dishonest scum bag. |
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You really think we're just going to forget all the crap you pulled? For example, and there are many, claiming soft swiss found "unequivocal proof" that ops win was fraudulent. How dumb do you think we are?
That was the position of SoftSwiss. We have paid out much larger winnings many times. But this particular winnings, combined with some accompanying factors, are if not beyond, then very close to the limits of theoretical probability. Nevertheless, since the provider refused to provide us with detailed information on this case, we (as an honest casino) had no choice but to take full responsibility and pay the player his winnings. We acted within the rules and time limits. Bullshit. I don't believe softswiss "unequivocally classifies this win as a fraud" like you claim. If that were the case, the game would be removed from all their other sites. And you would've shared some sort of statement they agreed to make public to protect your reputation. And you wouldn't of paid the player obviously. "We unequivocally classify this win as a fraud but we don't have proof" is just stupid. It's what you've been saying, now you're saying softswiss is saying it. It's a stupid lie that really serves no purpose. The kind of lie only someone who lies often makes. |
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As we have repeatedly stated, the casino has acted in strict accordance with the rules and according to the principles of honesty and openness. You're a funny guy  In case you think making the last post is going to make people believe you: This case wasn't handled strictly by your own terms. I've seen more than enough reasons to never trust you. There's no honesty and no openness. What do you mean? Player won, his payout was terminated for investigation according to our rules. After the investigation account was unfrozen and money were withdrawn according to our limits. You really think we're just going to forget all the crap you pulled? For example, and there are many, claiming soft swiss found "unequivocal proof" that ops win was fraudulent. How dumb do you think we are? |
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Putin's goals:
"De-Nazify" Ukraine: Failed
"Liberate" East Ukraine: Failing
Avoid general mobilisation: Failed
Divide the EU: Failed
Protect RU economical interests: Failed
You forgot "stop NATO expansion". |
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30th September: Lyman joins Russian Federation 1st October: Lyman leaves Russian federation. Seems that they didn't liked to be part of Russia. And nobody cares about results of fake referendums and Putin rhetoric BTW, Ukrainians lready went for appointment in local office of DPR head Denis Pushilin Penis Dushilin, but unfortunately he wasn't here. Well, maybe next time. https://t.me/truexanewsua/61669Can't be good for morale to retreat from a city you just "annexed" the day before. That's not usually how annexing works. Also now, in Putins alternate reality, Russia is now being occupied by Nazis. How long can he "allow" that to happen before even the most brainwashed (whatever it is they call boomer generation in Russia) start to realize reality is much different than they previously believed? |
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Why did Putin not close the borders? Perhaps the damage would have been excessive or perhaps this is designed to send abroad anyone who might actually dissent with the Psychos Junta.
What for? Russia has a multiple greater mobilization resource than Ukraine, it's okay if some people go abroad, it's their choice. To stop people from fleeing the country to avoid either fighting a war they aren't allowed to call a war or face 10 years in the gulag for refusing to fight in the war they can't call a war. |
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How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.
The fact that people are in government, shows that they are a group of pushy people, no matter the government. You really need to look at the crooked things that Biden and the US government are doing to see that they are way worse than Putin could ever think of being.  Biden stopped Trump from being President, Trumptards will forever attack him at all costs. Which fits perfectly with the Putin narrative. |
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Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.
This shit has already been nicknamed mopeds, it flies slowly and makes a lot of noise, they learned to shoot it down. a very primitive copy of American and Israeli drones. ^^^ Putin doesn't want to harm Ukraine. He simply wants to kick NATO and the US out. But he wants to do it without hurting the people of Ukraine. It's a difficult thing that Putin is trying to do. The Ukrainian people tried to do it, but couldn't. So, they appealed to Russia. So, how do you get rid of the Zelensky coup which was set in place by the US and NATO, all the while protect the average people? What Putin really needs to do is set a date. Announce it to the Ukrainian people. They have to move out of Ukraine by this date. Then, after all the people who are going to move out have done so, totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary. Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US. How are you different from the Nazis? putin is a sick maniac killer . You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony. russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist. This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies. And Carthage must be destroyed. Putin got Trump elected and pwnd the hell out of Hillary, Trumptards will forever defend him at all costs. |
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I give my predictions head of time for anyone who want to make money.
low bets hards to predict.
Big bets good returns on investment and better odds to win than what showing on the bookies.
UFC 280: Oliveira vs. Makhachev (50$ on Makachev)
Israel Adesanya vs. Alex Pereira (70$ on Alex )
Dustin Poirier vs. Michael Chandler ($150 on porier)
Petr Yan vs. Sean O’Malley (200$ on Sean)
Carla Esparza vs. Zhang Weili (200$ on Carla)
If you want to go safe on one bet then I would go all in on dustin vs chalnder (porier win)
I am pretty sure he will beat him.
You haven't even seen any lines for these fights have you. |
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So I think I figured out where PrimeNumber7 got this bonkers idea from that the president can just say any document is personal and then take it home with him to keep when he's no longer President anymore. The raid on Trumps house was because he stole thousands of government documents and then refused to give them back and lied about having them.
Its too bad that Trump has the unilateral authority to decide which documents are personal, and which documents are those of his administration (government property), and this is not something that is judicially reviewable. Are you suggesting that Trump intentionally decided that the documents that was brought to his home were government property, and intentionally took them? Trump also had the unilateral authority to decide which documents are declassified. It defies logic that Trump would take documents without first declassifying them. When Bill Clinton was president, he kept an audio journal for a future memoire. Nobody knew about it when he was president, and he hid the tapes in his sock drawer. After he left office, word got out and the right wing activist group Judicial watch sued for access to the tapes citing the presidential records act. The judge ruled that Clintons personal recordings of himself were personal records, not presidential records, and Judicial Watch lost the law suit. That's it. That's the case that Trump is trying to use to argue that he had the right to take pretty much whatever the fuck he wanted, including documents classified at the highest levels. Apparently his lawyers even brought up the case in a recent filing. I'm guessing PrimeNumber7 heard some right wing idiot pitching the idea and just ran with it without using his brain first and has since realized how stupid it is (since he kind of dropped it after I pointed out the stupidity). |
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Meanwhile it seems more and more likely that Putin is about to embarrass himself yet again, and cause the unnecessary death of thousands of innocent people that never wanted to be involved, yet again, by trying to mobilize Russians (and Ukrainians lol) to join his military that already suffers from low morale to fight a war they aren't allowed to call a war. Russian President Vladimir Putin is unlikely to overcome fundamental structural challenges in attempting to mobilize large numbers of Russians to continue his war in Ukraine. The “partial mobilization” he ordered on September 21 will generate additional forces but inefficiently and with high domestic social and political costs. The forces generated by this “partial mobilization,” critically, are very unlikely to add substantially to the Russian military’s net combat power in 2022. Putin will have to fix basic flaws in the Russian military personnel and equipment systems if mobilization is to have any significant impact even in the longer term. His actions thus far suggest that he is far more concerned with rushing bodies to the battlefield than with addressing these fundamental flaws. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-25War is so fucking stupid. |
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The louder they brag the harder they cry. (And almost always cry scam when the inevitable happens)
Op had many tears in his future.
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I remember back when Ukraine fighting back at all was considered stupid and suicidal because they obviously had no chance to win even a single battle against the mighty Russian army.
Now look at us, discussing whether they should go for Crimea or not.
To think how naive we all were.
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730 million people in Ukraine... that explains why Putin's invasion is failing. How did he miscalculate so badly.
Lol. No wonder you are having trouble with your propaganda. Worldometer - https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ukraine-population/ - shows the population of Ukraine to be less than 44 million. If the pop. was 730 million at one time, that only goes to show the success Russia is having there. To be fair, most people moved out, not wanting to participate in a US war. Only the poor of the land couldn't afford to move. So they stay and die right along with Zelensky's militia. Oops, you're making fun of another Putin fan boy, not suchmoon. |
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Partial mobilization in Russia is a symmetrical response to mobilization in Ukraine.
Ukraine has been mobilizing since February. Putin is responding to RU military failures. I do not see the prerequisites for mass mobilization in Russia; professional military personnel are doing their job quite well.
At what point do you realize that you're being fed lies? Russia has a huge excess of natural resources and the most combat-ready army in the world
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Blah blah, and we're back to defining what a win and a loss means for both sides. Already 20% of Ukraine are set not to just go under RU's sphere of influence but will become RU!
There is nothing to define, at least for Ukraine - they have a very clear goal. If you're referring to Putin's constantly changing goals of the "special operation" - that's what you get for believing kremlin. And no, it doesn't "become RU". That's not how it works. Take Kiev (Take 1,000 tanks to be blown up outside Kiev, retreat) Decapitate the UA Government. (Zelinsky is now a global super star) Stop Nato Expansion. (Nato Expanded almost instantly) Denazify Ukraine. (Putin trades a bunch of Azof fighters for an oligarch buddy) DaRube: "Blah blah, and we're back to defining what a win and a loss means for both sides." |
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Now that there is a bit of peace in the Donbas region, looks like some of these Ukraine areas are going to hold referendums regarding joining Russia formally. After all, these areas if not most of Ukraine wanted to join back in 2014... had even set a government in place to do the job. But the US did a coup and messed it all up for the Ukrainian people. Maybe Putin will respond shortly to this referendum desire of the Ukraine people. Breakaway Ukraine Republics To Hold Referenda On Joining Russia, Putin Speech Expected Russian president Vladimir Putin is expected to make a major speech in hours regarding the special military operation in Ukraine as several breakaway republics in Ukraine will soon hold referenda on joining Russia. Is major escalation coming? Also today: Is Heritage Foundation turning conservative on foreign policy? Your fake news sites seem to be a day or two behind the real world.
This latest update from SouthFront was extremely dense to watch
SouthFront caters only to the most dense. It's like the onion minus humor. |
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So US is sending million 155mm shells, EU depleted their military stock reserves and about to loose heat during the winter, and Russia declaring mobilization. Like literally, what else needs to happen for people to stop pretending and start questioning that maybe, just maybe, this is much bigger than Ukraine?? Uhh, nobody is pretending that. Ukraine is receiving aid from the rest of the world because they know what happens when a psycho gets away with invading another country. If Putin were able to steam roll Kiev without any consequences, he wouldn't stop there. That's literally why NATO exists - to stop the next ass hole that wants to see how many countries he can conquer. If you remember before this all started Russia drew up it's security concerns and requested written reply from US, think it's now safe to assume what kind of finger was drawn on a paper that U.S. ambassador, John Sullivan handed back to Moscow. Oh boo hoo. The US wouldn't let Putin dictate who was allowed to join an alliance that Russia is not a member of. That's how alliances work. Clearly US didn't take Russia's concerns seriously, as a final attempt to show that this is an existential threat for Russia Putin did more posturing, he sent a column of tanks directly to Kyiv. At that point all of EU knew just how serious the situation was, that this is an existential threat for Russia and RU is willing to make it's last stand over this, thus no one in EU expected for US to enable UA to just start taking out that column.
There was no existential threat for Russia. There might be now though. You can put 100% of the blame on Putin for that. And what is "this" Russia needs to annex a piece of Ukraine and then what? You think Ukraine won't continue on the path to joining the EU and eventually NATO? You think NATO won't continue to be more unified than almost any other point before February? How about the two countries that joined NATO in direct response to Putins decision to attack Ukraine? You think the rest of the world will just forget the weaknesses in the Russian military that have been exposed in the last 6 months? Putin already failed. |
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