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8901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 19, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
I consider trading, along with any kind of investing/speculating, as forms of gambling. If there is a chance or possibility - even a 0.001% chance - that you could lose some or all your money, then to me it's gambling. Even if you are the number one best trader in the universe and know all the analysis and secret information there is to know, it is no guarantee that you won't lose, whether in the short term or long term.

Not to say people can't profit and earn through trading of course, just saying it's a form of gambling, imo.

Well for a chance as little as you've mentioned, one would already be a very successful trader. Losing money applies to pretty much any businesses not only to trading. The key is to make more money than the amount you've lost and i think good and experienced traders can do this at a pretty much conaistent basis. That makes it less of a gamble for them compared to those who are just starting out as traders. Experience would be they key difference here whether trading can be considered as a gamble

Yeah you're right actually its almost like gambling when you trade but their difference is not that significant everytime because if you gamble more loses will be possible to happen. But in trading it doesn't coincide to their specific reality because if the loses happened in gambling could happen to trading, I don't think traders will stay longer on the profitable trading sites they were engaged of, and trading absolutely be considered as gambling.

Speaking of losing rate then gambling does really have high percentage compared to trading since they are on different field because you could able to study trading techniques and knowledge for you to able to lessen the risk of lossing. Trading would be considered as gambling when you do trade without any proper knowledge.
8902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Becoming rich owning all altcoins in 5 years? on: February 19, 2017, 10:30:34 AM
I dont think speaking of purchasing 1000 coins on each altcoin would really cost you since there are lots of alts out there and if you are just choosing those low value coins it doesnt guarantee you and chances are very slim because most of those cheap coins end up to dump forever.
8903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: February 19, 2017, 09:40:48 AM
Of course it's sort of the Human brainwashed logic that once they lose money then they should try to make it again somehow. This goes the same with Gambling.

I did stop Gambling but didn't have any problem spending more than what I wanted to play with. When it gets that far, most people keep going -I would suggest that people quit once that it gets close to that point because it'll only get worse.
It's basically biology. It's how you react and understand the logic of it. When gambling, dopamine levels increase. Especially when we are winning. That comes especially when winning, if you lose, you will be sad and want to regain your losses, that's why you always come back to gambling.

Simple things when people always stop and back to gamble is because curiousity. When you win you always want to keep your winning ways and curious with what will you get in next game. So you still gamble. When yo lose, always lose till you lose all your money,, you will stop, and maybe for a while till you get some money to gamble again. And you also curious with what will you get when you come back.. So you come back to gamble.
In short,you are aiming for money and you are chasing your losses which is really the main things on which most gamblers do think while they are playing gambling. If they would decide to stop they will still play gain because as long you do have this kind of mindset.
8904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 18, 2017, 04:06:28 PM
Trading can be considered as gambling, because they are all risky to make money, and you can make and lose money from trading. I don't think why people ignore this truth.
All gambling are risky there's no gambling that no need to risk even lotto you need to risk your money and it's hard to win the jackpot there, Loosing money will keep us more triggered to reach that goal in life. People don't ignore that once people lose they want to accept the truth Tongue
Risking too much money or pursuing to achieve goals on playing gambling is really a dumb thing to do by an individual and i could say that it just like a suicide we cant really fully rely on that on just hoping that we would able to won the jackpot,its nonsense to consider.The best thing to do is seek for another way just like trading.
8905  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Block Chain has a new look! Nice and clean also easier on the eyes! on: February 18, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
I do notice it also and all of the users of blockchain.info i do really like the new color or theme and same as you said its cool into my eyes compared on the previous one and also its my favorite color and it seems ill open my blockchain wallet on this change.lol
8906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Supertition on: February 18, 2017, 03:29:14 PM
I just wanna know if you guys are supertitious when playing or gambling?

I will admit I'm very supertitious when going to a land based casino. Grin
1. I choose the number of parking slot that I will park. Usually it should have my favorite number 111,777 etc.
2. I don't want to wait for someone if he or she is going to go with in the casino.
3. I wear the same shirt that I won big.

And a lot more..

How about you? are you sepertitious?  Smiley

For me being superstitious is in the mindset of the gambler, but I know not all gambler are like that. Because for them gamble is gamble, and every time I do gamble If I win thanks, and if I lose of course I'm sad. But that's a part of the games its normal ecosystem in the vicinity of gambling sites which this is the cycle in gambling world.
We do have different beliefs and we should respect some gamblers on the thing that they believe because as long they dont do anything harm to us its okay and we cant do anything about it since they do believe on that matter but for me i see no connection on these because luck does really matter on playing gambling.
8907  Economy / Securities / Re: Investor for a mining farm with no electricity cost. on: February 18, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
through solar power electricity is not a problem anymore..buy a solar panel and let the heat of the sun absorb a solar electricity through a solar panel...
You are not reading on the OP mate since he have a free electricity as mentioned above and he wont bother to use solar energy and the cost of that is expensive and its not ideal because it will add up on your expenses.

For op, im wondering where you get your free energy?
8908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 18, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
This would be the right place for the discussion IMO, anyway investing is better mathematically than gambling since the house edge is in your favor, the tough question is the place to invest in, Just-dice was the obvious pick before but now it's not as easy as before to choose where to invest.

And if you did chose to invest in casino's you are in favor to get more profit but that depends on how much or how big your bankroll is. Safedice is the one that I see that good to invest also kingdice and crypto games. I saw a good progress of one investor on those sites and has positive result, you can check his thread here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.980
Very nice suggestion mate about those gambling site because they are good in terms of investment and do have a good returns on monthly basis and if i do have the money i will diversify all of my bitcoin into different site because its better not to put all eggs in one basket. The more the better.
8909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably Fair for investors on: February 18, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
Today almost all gambling sites feature Provably Fair system for their games. If you are not familiar with it, it is based on cryptographic hashes - the result of each bet is based on 2 seeds, one of each comes from the player side and the other from the house side. This system is used to verify that every bet was truly random without any manipulation from both sides.

The problem here is there's a third side involved in gambling - investors. They invest their money into casinos bankroll and share profit when players lose, or cover house's loses when players win. Now my concern is that investors don't have any control over seeds, so there's a potential for abuse by casino operators. They could simply create player account and make fake winnings, since they know both seeds, and by doing this they will be stealing investor funds without any way to prove it. Of course investors will start withdrawing their money if they will see losses over long term, but this scam could be even more subtle, for example living investors with profit, just smaller than they should have earned so there wouldn't be any suspicions. Considering all this, I think gambling sites should extend Provably Fair system to cover investor side.
Theres a possibility that casino owners would do such act because investors doesnt really have access on those seeds on each roll and possibilities of making fake accounts and winnings would really be there but i think they wont do such act because if they do that thing investors would lost its trust to the house and with that it makes a bad reputation and other potential investors wont invest on your site because some investors do lose their investment.
8910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Gambling Movie on: February 18, 2017, 06:42:05 AM
ocean eleven is the best for me. If ever One piece Gold is on choices, i will choose it too. Ocean eleven, twelve, 13 are the best series of gambling movie
I have choses Ocean eleven series and so on same as other members been chose here. Its the best gambling movie ive ever seen and i cant forget that nice movie.
8911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The billion coin (TBC) on: February 15, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
TBC is just really a scam ponzi coin because for the information of all the current price of this coin is almost $2k as of today which is really insane and I'm wondering where so they base their actual value since the demand isn't very high which is obviously indicates as scam for me.
8912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for a soccer betting site. on: February 15, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
I'd like to suggest directbet since I do play on that site for how many month already and I don't have any complaints regarding on their service theres no delay theres no technical issues which you can see on any other shaddy scammy sports betting sites.
8913  Economy / Services / Re: i can mentor to make Insane ammount of Bitcoins on: February 15, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
Why dont you mentor yourself and get that so called "insane amount of bitcoins" for you lmao

I do, but i still get more than i what make myself with 50% from 5 persons

For others, add me skype : world-exited

This means you earn through others. I agree because you can have an idea but you don't have the resources to exploit the idea. Therefore, you use other peoples resources and you split the profits - makes a lot of sense.
This is actually part of his plan maybe this method smells like on gambling method just my own view I would like to join but I don't have enough bitcoin  Grin 5/10 is this real? There are interested people want to test itvout, I'll wait for the feedbacks.
8914  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Coinbase wallet not working 15/02/2017 on: February 15, 2017, 02:55:21 PM
There's no problem on accesing coinbase wallet because same as others said here it do normally works fine either on site or in app.seems you do have a problem try to log.in using a VPN if that will work then your internet connection does have a problem or browser I guess.
8915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any insurance service for gamblers to retain heavy losses....??? on: February 15, 2017, 02:43:40 PM
You are asking very good question about gambling. But in my view, it is impossible way, because it is really hard to build insurance service for gamblers to return their losses. First of all, Who make it?
Secondly, everyone know that in gambling losses number are always increased than winning numbers.
So imaginatively we think, someone make the insurance service for gamblers, But definitely this insurance service always get lose.
No one would make it and there's no point on making an insurance incase a gamblers losing out his own money maybe there's Cashback but insurance it's impossible and as you said that insurance will lose money instead.
Yes it's like cash back but we know Cashback aren't considered as insurance because those amounts are too little to consider and whose gonna think about gambling insurances?
8916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Fortune Jack a Scam or are they Legit? on: February 15, 2017, 10:29:10 AM
They are a legit site but as far as I know their withdrawal system is pretty slow for unknown reason.
I think they are taking their time to check the withdrawals by hand.


Based on my own experiences (at least on the last 2-3months), my withdrawals were processed instantly in few minuutes. Maybe some players get some delays on bigger withdrawals which is exceeded the hot wallet. So they need to refill it first.
i can vouch about it too , do withdrawal below 1 bitcoin always done instantly within a couple minutes or even few secs only . but yeah based on my referral complaint there is few withdrawal processed a little bit delay, don't know what is the actual reason, they just keep saying sorry for the inconveniences etc. so far so good , nothing to worried about.
We dont know the actual reason why they do have those delay but still we can still be sure that those payout/withdrawals will be delivered on our account.Even there are delays but still its okay as long the delay wont be too long.I have played on FJ on previous months and i experience instant withdrawals.
8917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: February 15, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Which game you played when you earned most of money?
When i played game or gambling rather i most played is satoshimines because it is easy to win in that particular game. You just click the box and avoid the bomb and thats it you will win the game or lost the game already. So play safe is must but how? just reach your particular goal or profit and play again tomorrow that is my play safe.
Satoshimine game is really very thrilling because its just like a classic minesweeper game and i got used to play these game but i dont really have luck on clicking empty tiles because i do always choose mines.lol. Playing safe always is recommendable but we dont know when will be busted out. I make money on playing dice and sportsbetting.
8918  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which site is the best for sports betting? on: February 15, 2017, 09:35:13 AM
I use two website regarding on playing sports betting which is nitrogensports and directbet.eu because i do like their platform and design just like no other but still it depends on people since we have different interest and likes on which site we do play sports.
8919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New casino vs old and trusted one on: February 14, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
A good casino is known by its reputation and you can't build reputation in a short time, most of the gambler will go to the old casino because the old casino already got a good reputation, a new brand casino also got a chance to be a favorite place for the gamblers, but you need to attract the gambler attraction by giving a giveaway or create a game that only your casino has, and for brand new casino you need to advertise a lot, signature campaign is a good way to introduce your site, or maybe you can advertise in this forum
I agree on what you have said building reputation isnt easy and cant be done on a short period of time and it does really need time for you to able to build it which means old sites does really have the edge but chances for newer sites is still there and the important thing to do for them is just making the new site hassle free and problem free i guess.
8920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is there any dice site with free giveaway? on: February 14, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
i keep hearing about gambling dice, so i wanted to give it a try but i don't want to deposit my money yet.

also i have heard they usually do giveaways.

so is there any of them currently giving away some amount that i can play with?
(no deposit bonus)

try yobit because they are always giving away altcoins for free which you can also use for playing dice. if you figure you already have a lot of it, you can always move its value to btc. register to yobit.net and click free coins above.
Yobit does really give free altcoin but those coins supposed to say are useless at all and doesnt have good value on the market thats why they give it for free but still a good way to test it out the dice game on there but as far as i know there are lots of complaints regarding on its fairness.
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