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8181  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stocks or crypto ? which has great future? on: September 27, 2017, 04:04:15 PM
i am kinda new to Cryptocurrency .
i am going great in stocks. its really technical and fundamental kinda investments
as i see Cryptocurrency its alot more easy to invest and forget
should i shift to Cryptocurrency and start investing without tension and stress?
I think there are some investment that really profitable although for long term investment. Gold,  property,  and bitcoin.  Probably some people will afraid to invest in bitcoin but I think do not need to worry about it,  because I am sure all people inthe world will use it.
Maybe in future majority of the users make use of bitcoin. At present very few has the good thinking about bitcoin, while the rest stay as well invest with a panicking mind. In my view whether it's property or some other investment schemes or stocks, one can't get the profit similar to the one that's earned through bitcoin.
When it comes to earning opportunities or money making i would say crypto world would possibly give you more than on what you earn on stock trading but in regards on stability and support i would stood strong for stocks knowing that they are already here for how many years on where stocks trading is existed but people would surely jump out to crypto if they do know the income possibilities.
8182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to get bitcoin every days? on: September 25, 2017, 05:32:29 PM
How can you earn 40 dollars a day in bitcoin?? , let's share the knowledge on this topic , and hopefully we get more success after share my experience in here

Well, the only way you can get that much is through trading...and that is if you're lucky if not you will lose more than that amount. It too risky.
sounds very good, per day you want to get $40 dollars by bitcoin. nice goal this is. No more hesitation just you will do start gambling in any beting  site by bitcoin to achieve your goal. Gambling is the best way for you.
Gambling? What? This is really a ridiculous suggestion instead of earnign $40 a day you would eventually lose up money even more.Its really possible but the risk involved would really be high which we can really consider that this is not a good thing.I would rather go on trading than on gambling.Both things require some capital but its more really worth to try on the side of trading.
8183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The END of ICO's? on: September 25, 2017, 04:43:03 PM
Three days ago the Gibraltar Financial Services Commission, announced its willing to place new regulation to  cryptocurrency exchanges from January 2018 and also ICOs in the near future. The commision explains they want to covering the promotion and sale of tokens and also a taxation scheme, the two sides of the coin.

 
Its not surprising anymore and i already did anticipated this thing to happen since it been sparked already by some countries then for sure other would go with the trend specially into those country which they saw that their citizens are involve mostly on these ICO. They would really impose taxation since they know they can able to make money on here.
8184  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin vs Taxes on: September 23, 2017, 07:29:18 PM
If one could declare it as normal income that would be great, tax rate is low, but bitcoin gains most likely qualify as capital gains, same as forex trading or stocks trading and tax rate is much higher.

Don't really know how someone would declare Bitcoin Cash, it can be qualified as dividends from bitcoin or even as a donation or gift.

Luckily my goverment still forbid bitcoin usage so I can use bitcoin without pay any tax
IMO, even if my goverment one day legalize bitcoin usage, they must not applied tax on bitcoin since bitcoin basically is not a currency but it's a virtual currency
Government cant tax bitcoin directly but they can able to impose taxes on the service which do accepts bitcoin in short even if they would accept or adopt bitcoin they cant directly impose taxes to its users thats why other government do really have this kind of restriction when it comes on bitcoins adoption to their place. Its a decentralized thing and no one can able to control it.

Let's think for a moment about what this means. Bitcoin and similar convertible virtual currencies are property for tax purposes. As with other types of property, first one acquires property, often by exchanging cash for the property. Then one owns the property for a period of time. And then eventually one might sell or give away or trade or otherwise dispose of the property. So with any type of property we have three moments in time: acquiring the property, holding the property, and disposing of the property.
What are you talking about the tax rate being lower if you declare Bitcoin as your normal income? As far as I know tax income rates vary from how much your earnings are (on most countries), not depending on what kind you earn. And yes Bitcoin cannot be tax by the government directly but it is still the obligation of the tax payer to reflect it into their annual tax report in its current Fiat equivalent to avoid being audited by the government, remember it is how much your earn not what kind of money you gain it from.
Government would always seek out on the money you do earn on your job which they would really base and this is how normally works on taxation but speaking already on bitcoin.It cant be taxed since even government wont really have any idea if that certain person is earning other sources of money knowing that we can able to hide our earnings on bitcoin form.
8185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I have 250 ETH, Hold or SELL? on: September 23, 2017, 05:14:12 PM
I would take at least a part of your eth and sell it.

If you don't need the money you can put it in btc or an other altcoin.

If the dont need money then why he would bother on putting it on other coins? I would rather go with ETH than on other altcoins in the market rather than on Bitcoin itself. 250 ETH is a big money already for me and if you do like to diversify then better to impart 50% of them on ETH and Bitcoin. It would be a nice decision since this 2 things will really give you profits later on.
8186  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: time for trading on: September 22, 2017, 06:18:17 PM
in  last 2 days are very good time for trading
rate go up and down +- 100$ in 5 minute soo good profit only buy and sell btc right now
i make it in 2 hour off trading 10% profit
You can really make some good money on those movements.Active trading is nice but really a risky thing if you didnt able to get in on the right time. Volatile prices and riding with the waves will give you money but also at the same time on losing money too. Even as of now we are dropping on bitcoins price in a matter of hour it does move 70-100$ which is also a good opportunity on hedging.
8187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: September 22, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
BTC may not recover, but instead money will flow back to the superior, original bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash. Buy bitcoins now for under $400 again! Watch for the BCC related conference coming up this week. Huge things ahead! Don't be in the dark on these developments!

Did you actually checked the Bitcoin Cash exchange rates before posting this thread here? I am closely following the exchange rates for the past 2-3 days. The Bitcoin prices are down by around 20% during the last 3 days. The BCH prices on the other hand have dived from $530 to just around $390, which means that the exchange rate is down by close to 30%.
I dont know whats his basis why he do proclaimed on here that BTC is dead and BCH is the better guy. Are you serious? BCH is just really good for milking money on it and i dont really see any future for this coin.Bitcoin would still be the best as of now and lastly i do already dumped my BCH for a long time ago.
8188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin dies does altcoin die? on: September 22, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
Bitcoin is a very popular crypto coin today, we know that Bitcoin will be very expensive in the future but I imagine if Bitcoin die, whether there will be hope for the future of altcoin? because most altcoin exchanges are to bitcoins
your opinion is highly appreciated. Smiley

It might depend on the reason why Bitcoin can die. In case when the death is due to total ban of Bitcoin as done by all governments or regimes then there is a possibility that Bitcoin death can also mean the death of altcoins. Now, if the reason can be other than that or it is within Bitcoin like losing the appeal from the market then there is a possibility that another coin can rise up to take the vacuum of leadership.
Thank you for your answers.
I also think if bitcoin dies because of loss of attraction and consumers. ETH will take over Bitcoin because we know that ETH is the most popular after Bitcoin. how do you think about that?
ETH is a strong candidate next to bitcoin. I dont completely see that all altcoin would die if bitcoin would die.They can able to stand for sure knowing that they can directly be bought by fiat itself and if bitcoin died because of its anonymity feature and the interest is gone on its users then for sure they would jump on other altcoin which is somehow do have some features like smart contract which is not totally anonymous.
8189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bought my first BTC @ $4600, slightly worried on: September 21, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
Apparently it is not only bitcoin that was affected, most altcoins went down to all because of the uncertainty of which the Chinese regulations will influence the crypto ecosystem and the possibility of other countries to adopt and implement similar regulations...but imo its better to hold on to your coins you bought as price could easily raise by a 1000 dollars in a day and allow you to break even.
I was already happy when i do see bitcoins price did hit up again on 4k range but now when i do see again on its recent price we are heading down again 3649 as of writing which do really suck to see these prices on bitcoin but well its still okay i do wait a little bit more for buying cheaper bitcoins because i do know price would really rise up again and for op just hold on to your bitcoin.
8190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How do you find your ICO's ? on: September 21, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
I have been looking to invest into more ICO's but i'm having some trouble to find the ones that do not scam you. So my question is:
How do you guys find your ICO's and how do you know they are a scam ?
There are lots of ICO as of now and telling about on the project that wont scam is somehow hard to tell because we wont able to identify which of them would run later on when they do accept some funding already.This is why as an investor we should really research on the people behind on it specially on their whitepaper you can able to see if this would be a good project this is why we should carefully choose.
If they use genuine profiles and photos on their teams, and they have a clear partnership, I'm sure the ICO will not scam, and look at the followers and members of their social media, if a lot of people are active there the project is great
Dev transparency is one of my indication that the project isnt a scam because you would able to know them without hiding their faces into public and just like on what you said here that looking on their social media status and media partners if they are tied up on big and popular ones then for sure chance of scam is near on 0% . This is the projects which do deserve on my money to put on.
8191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How do you find your ICO's ? on: September 21, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
I have been looking to invest into more ICO's but i'm having some trouble to find the ones that do not scam you. So my question is:
How do you guys find your ICO's and how do you know they are a scam ?
There are lots of ICO as of now and telling about on the project that wont scam is somehow hard to tell because we wont able to identify which of them would run later on when they do accept some funding already.This is why as an investor we should really research on the people behind on it specially on their whitepaper you can able to see if this would be a good project this is why we should carefully choose.
8192  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: September 21, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
Teaching kids in a Way that they will get interested with it like motivating them. Telling them that they can get money from BTC they are more easy to teach because kids now a days are more literate with computers.

Yeah this is true, kids nowadays are more smarter but lazier because of the gadgets. But one can teach their kids and motivating them using these gadgets they are mostly using. I bet most of the kids below 12 yrs old now have owned or own like a tablet or ipad, they'd be interested if you tell them what bitcoins could do and teach them the usage of bitcoin too.
You are right kids nowadays are smart because of the new technology on their generation which they can really easily cope up on online things and its really a good thing to teach them about the usage of bitcoin but depending on their interest because they dont really still mind on transfering money since they are just still kids and dont bother too much when it comes to money.
8193  Economy / Speculation / Re: LOWEST PRICE BITCOIN WILL GET TO on: September 20, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
What you told is correct but now bitcoin is not able to cross $4200 level and it is just breaking below it so once it is crossed we can see the old ATH price breaked.
But I think first bitcoin price need to retouch $3500 atleast or even below $3k to make healthy and steady pump to new ATH price. Current recovery after touching $3k seems just another bull trap from chinese whales. So its better to be cautious when buying any bitcoin at current price level.

Bitcoin can easily set new ATH before end of this year but some correction after a huge pump is quite normal in crypto trading.

What you are telling is true but on other side Japan and other country are making strong steps and buying in full force in bitcoin. Japan have even started the setup to build the largest and biggest mining facility. Once it is started then china will loose the bitcoin position and what ever they are selling will be bought by this other country and then china wont have anything to hold. Now if you properly watch then china are stuck in their own trap.
China wont really allow such thing to fall on its own trap and im sure they would again regulate or engage into bitcoin again.Just like what happen on the first attempt on where China do decide to ban it but eventually they didnt succeed and they engage with it again. Its good to hear that Japan now planning to build largest mining facility we would really able to view that prices would really rise up on this one.Adoption is always on the move and cant really be stopped.
8194  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: September 20, 2017, 06:32:00 PM
Hello, as we all know that Bitcoin is heading straight to the moon. Me, as an employee, do also invest with this cryptocurrency, and I kinda need to divide all of my salary for my needs, and on how much should I invest in? Let's talk about percentage. Anyone?
Your decision is totally based on the amount you are earning as salary and your responsibilities such as bills you have to pay and all. Once you can put that into consideration and you can afford to save upto at least 20%, I see no reason why you shouldn't. That is what I have always done anyway. However, the decision is yours if you know you can afford to loose it. Every investment comes with risks and bitcoin to me, I classify as mid risk investment.
Bitcoin is indeed a risky investment and also on all coins in the market.This is why before we decide to invest or putting money on it we should really be ready on the possible things that would happen into our money.There are two possible things might happen either on gaining profits and losing money and talking about dividing your salary then get those funds that you will use on crypto from your savings.
8195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: where can i get info about new icos? on: September 20, 2017, 05:30:28 PM
hello,

i understand that i can stick to this forum thread where devs announce new ICOs,
but is there a site that list all THE NEW ICOs and also track the status of them?

i found this site:
but it has only 100 coins in the list.

thanks!
I do usually these kind of stuffs on this site https://www.icoalert.com/ hope it would be helpful for you.This is the site where i do seek up on possible or upcoming ico and into the recent ones.It does only give you hundreds but still be fine and really worth to look at.Just remember on seeking on the most possible good project before deciding on putting up money on it.
8196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Spending Bitcoin These Days on: September 19, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
I see more and more merchants accepting Bitcoin but I feel many are missing the point. I, along with the vast majority of you, hate spending my Bitcoin. The only reason I would spend Bitcoin is if I can get a 20%+ discount on an item or service that I would be purchasing anyway. This also assumes I can immediately purchase more BTC to cover what I spent. I have done this before for purchases on Purse, then buying the BTC right back on Coinbase. The headache alone is hardly worth it. So merchants! It's great that you accept BTC but give us a compelling reason to spend it at your establishment, otherwise we really don't care.
If we do put ourselves as a merchant who do accepts bitcoin then we would probably sell out things which are really discounted and i guess it would really be worth knowing bitcoin prices would potential grow and you would able to break even on what you had given to your sales.I do spend my bitcoin on buying on steam purchases and its indeed on lesser prices.
8197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most profitable altcoin to mine? on: September 19, 2017, 04:53:13 PM
Hey everyone, I'm looking to get into altcoin mining and was wondering what coin would be the most profitable. I'd love to hear everyone's opinions and reasonings
One dude said above.This would depend on what kind of Video Card or GPU you do have because mining profitability would depend on how many hash you would able to generate on those cards.I dont have any idea on what to suggest because there are lots of coins which can really be mined by gpu specially on powerful ones. The higher the hash the higher the income but thinking off it is more expensive.There are actually miningcalculator related into this.Just google it.
8198  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: forex trading vs cripto trading on: September 19, 2017, 04:01:08 PM
~snip~
The thing he said was actually right on which this thing would really depend on which one he would trade up either on crypto or on forex knowing that they do really have different kind of way on executing trades knowing that global currencies and cryptos are on different fields too on which volatility would really differ.There are things that doesnt work from one another this is why us do have really a choice on where we are profitable.

The thing everyone here seems to miss about the volatility is that forex has much higher leverage. The two things cancel each other out at the very least or actually give forex far more risk/reward. If you're trading at 500:1 margin you can blow up an account much quicker than at 5:1 leverage.

As for different ways of executing trades, many forex brokers offer professional tools with Depth Of Market price ladders. Look on Youtube to see any footage of X-Trader from Trading Technologies to see how different and how much easier it is to execute trades on. Also, spreads are next to non-existent and fees massively lower, you can make a profit if the price moves only one pip.

Margine would really be the difference among the two and as you said lot sizes would really be the thing here on which you can easily blown up your account if you do set 1,2,5 lot sizes. High risk but High rewards too but depending on how confident you are on your trades.Its normal that broker do provide all the learning tools for its traders to learn from since they do earn if the trader do earn too.
8199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: forex trading vs cripto trading on: September 19, 2017, 03:15:10 PM
Depending on the skill each person, but for me crypto trading is more easy and more profitable than forex trading. Because i havebeen 2 years in forex trading but until now can not get profit consistent. And i started crypto trading a few month ago then now i got some profit. Continue learn and keep patient is key of succes in trading.
You have rightly said that this thing depends on each person’s own interest. For me, crypto trading is very much better and is recommended instead of forex trading. The profit and market value of Crypto currency especially Bitcoin is far much better than forex trading. You can earn a lot of money by trading in crypto.
The thing he said was actually right on which this thing would really depend on which one he would trade up either on crypto or on forex knowing that they do really have different kind of way on executing trades knowing that global currencies and cryptos are on different fields too on which volatility would really differ.There are things that doesnt work from one another this is why us do have really a choice on where we are profitable.
8200  Economy / Economics / Re: Is NOW the best time to buy or enter in bitcoin? on: September 19, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
Bitcoin prices plunged from $4900 to $3300 withing pan of few days. Now some news-points from bitcoin world are claiming this price plunge was planned. Check following links:

https://news.bitcoin.com/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/

Now without going into whether above claims are true or not, my concern is "Isn't this is the right time to enter the bitcoin market or purchase few more". There is definite signs of improvement in the bitcoin price market. Current price is around $3757. It is quite possible to see bitcoin back to 4k to 5k or more. Given biggest players from finance sector are eying this lucrative market.
What do you think, is this is right time to buy some more bitcoins or wait and watch?

The best time or the good plunge is on 2900+ usd price and regarding on what jp morgan said about bitcoin i did believe that he do buy on those dips.Its just a misdirection on his words but did actually buy bitcoin on those times.Hahah.If you did buy on those times then you are making money as of now as if bitcoins price did rose up again and somehow recovering on this times.
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