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921  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: April 12, 2018, 01:43:19 AM
ck I really love the idea of your pool at the moment I have two miners connected to it.
But few things is really bothering me since I joined.
Why your pool isn't more popular?
What is wrong with other miners so they don't see the benefit of mining in this pool?

There are a few reasons for this.
One is that this pool doesn't have frequent payouts, both due to the low hashrate and the slightly different SPLNS method used on CKPool that doesn't give payouts at each block find for every miner.

Another is that it's not advertised or shared anywhere other than specific forums, and generally not suggested on tutorials and other websites to encourage new users.
There are two major kinds of miners (heh major miners) that mine on public pools - the first is those that have full control over their hashrate - even if they have only one piece of hardware or an entire farm of their own. These people make choices on their own based on whatever information they can get their hands on and how they interpret it regarding what pools are out there. These are the miners you often see posting here on the forum and while relatively anonymous do have a public face. They're the ones that determine how much hashrate goes to each pool and can drastically change the balance of hashrate between the pools... but it's only a SMALL proportion of the network hashrate in reality. These are the only ones we can possibly attract to this pool. The other type of miner are the large entities that set up farms and have set up deals with the pools they run on and are often even a subsidiary company or the same company as that running the pool - we can't possibly attract them to this pool. Unfortunately I estimate the "public swaying miners" are less than 5% of the network hashrate. Of those, swaying miners are often driven to the bone for making profits and for whatever reason run so tight that they want a "regular income" and as little risk as possible - a small pool cannot provide either of those; it comes with much more risk (and potentially much more gain) but no regular income. These miners probably constitute 95% of the swaying miner hashrate, leaving only a tiny proportion of the network that can "afford" to mine on a smaller pool. This means that a big pool is always guaranteed to attract some miners from the swaying miners, but a small pool has only a minuscule proportion of the network hashrate it can attract.

Until a smaller pool becomes a bigger pool, it cannot become a bigger pool. That's not a typo; it's a cyclical problem. I'm saying it's impossible for a small pool in the current climate to ever get big again unless it has deals with big miners. If this pool was 1EH now, all the new swaying miners will likely make it their first choice since it meets the criteria of regular income and low risk and has the lowest fee anywhere, but even then would never be more than 5% of the network. Slush is unique at meeting this criteria because it's been around as the first pool and still manages to get a big hashrate from the swaying miners, but it's still only 3% of the network hashrate. The rest of the pools aren't really there for you public miners; they have a public face but they have motherfucking huge miners that will only ever mine there, keeping their hashrate high and centralising hashrate.
922  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: April 10, 2018, 01:54:58 PM
i pointed 300th of my power to try it out....

if i like it / it pays well, i will point my total 1ph of power towards it Smiley

thanks for the help CK when i didn't understand things about certain pools!!
You're welcome, and thanks for joining us Smiley
923  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 05, 2018, 02:59:19 AM
Please be advised there is a twitter account impersonating me linking sales for this hardware. This is NOT me and is a scam site. My account is ckpooldev, the scammer is using ckpooIdev. Note the uppercase i they're using instead of a lowercase L. Do not go to their linked site.
924  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: April 04, 2018, 09:14:20 PM
It's been interesting running on this pool. I rather enjoy it so far thanks for setting this up.

Any speculation on why the ebb and flow of pool hash rate?
A couple of pages back you'll see our biggest hasher had to take his hardware down temporarily for some kind of infrastructure updates. He'll be back in a few weeks.
925  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 31, 2018, 08:40:37 PM
Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools
That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.

Is that because the pool will just reject the shares with modified version? If I understand correctly, there is nothing in the hardware implementation for AB that would make it incompatible with non-AB pools.

Just a side note....does that mean these miners basically will only work on Slush? or maybe a couple others? and/or they have to have an ASIC BOOST
capable pool JUST to work at all? and as such...would these be mainly bitcoin cash pools?

just trying to catch up ..this seems more than a bit confusing..

*just curious* *don't have a dragonmint on order*
They will refuse to connect to a pool unless they support AB. If the miner code is modified to allow them to point to a non-AB pool, only 1/4 of the hashes are valid. I've explained before but people seem to not believe me - they do NOT run without asicboost active; they do not have the switching hardware required to enable/disable it in the T1. It is mandatory.

Additionally shitcoin cash has nothing to do with this - there isn't a single shitcoin cash pool that supports overt asicboost as far as I'm aware. You're mixing up covert hidden asicboost which only works now on shitcoin cash from overt asicboost which works everywhere, provided the pool supports it.
926  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 31, 2018, 05:01:02 AM
It's fair to say that the code to tune for optimal hashrate at minimum power draw is still in development, and these are the first public runs of silicon so I expect hashrates and/or efficiency to improve successively with later ones, and firmware updates to improve things slightly for existing ones. Small nm ASICs are extraordinarily fussy and tricky to tune.
927  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 31, 2018, 04:58:39 AM
TWENTY-EIGHT HUNDRED & EIGHTY-THREE WORKERS for 8.8Th.
Interesting stat...must be some kind of record.
   



Address                                                          H/s 1h   H/s 1d   H/s 1w   workers   
16   12S3SC8AAxXwVYJtJimpLPMRNiGr7Vni9F   8.82TH/s   19.9TH/s   88.2TH/s   2883   

youve been running rentals? could be why your worker count is so high
Indeed the rental services are terrible at keeping miners connecting, constantly connecting and disconnecting miners to get the right amount of hashrate. A lot of those worker connections may all be stale ones that have yet to expire.
928  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 30, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools
That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.
929  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 27, 2018, 11:41:47 PM
There are a few trying to create ICO's to fund the projects so just asking to see if anyone else heard about them...  And I want to get off of the Newbie...  Maybe I can reach  SuperNewbie in a week or so...

Fine, but I think it's likely a scam. The steps in technology and likely improvements are well known in advance and getting 28TH out of a single machine just because it's 7nm is virtually impossible without industrial current levels of power.

Please don't post unnecessarily just to increase your post count or your posts will start getting deleted and you'll be banned if you keep making insubstantial posts. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
930  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: goldennoncepool.com - DGM - 0% fees on: March 27, 2018, 11:28:02 PM
Community service announcement: You would be crazy to join a pool from a newcomer that has absolutely zero reputation on this forum, is completely unknown on any level outside the forum, and only just created an account to start a pool like this.

  • Variable fee kept by the pool to absorb operator variance when balancing participant variance

At least he's honest with this statement - it's possible that he means 100% fee and will take the first block the pool solves and disappears forever. This wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

Join at your own risk.
931  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 27, 2018, 10:59:43 PM
I heard something about the 7nm doing about 28th.
That sounds like bullshit btw.
932  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 27, 2018, 04:22:00 AM
Quite a few of my miners will be down for a few weeks due to work at the facility so my hashrate will drop but they will all come back to this pool when the work is done. Also 300 additional s9's will be coming to this pool over the next couple of months.
Thanks for the heads up. Your hashrate will be sorely missed but glad you're not going away which would have scared a lot of our smaller miners. Hopefully by the time you come back there'll be a lot more hashrate from others to supplement yours.
933  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 26, 2018, 11:49:13 PM
I'm sure this has been answered a million times but I didn't see the answer after a brief search. How long is the ramp up time? Moved my small farm over yesterday and want to know how long it will be before fully functioning. Also can somebody give me the condensed version of herp derp, I've read and reread it and still can't wrap my mind around it.

3rd question, how much is the block finder reward?

5 x network difficulty is the full ramp up time but it's non-linear unlike PPLNS so it takes less than that to get to meaningful share count (though still a long time.) Forget trying to think of herp and derp, just assume it's shares and reward called something else and there's nothing to really get your head around. Block reward is small and only applies to the following payout, not the block solved - the size of the reward is only potentially substantial to smaller miners.
934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 26, 2018, 09:04:22 PM
https://medium.com/@CobraBitcoin/i-think-halong-mining-is-a-scam-682e678928e6

^Seems cobra-bitcoin seems to be calling out ck in this thread and others. Given Cobra is the co owner of this site and CK's notorious censorship policy of this section (I've been a victim myself), I am more inclined to believe Cobra at this point in time....
Censorship policy, that's a good one. We call it following the forum rules, and I'm not the only moderator here and don't recall doing any moderation of this particular thread either. Buuuut if you don't want to believe someone who has a public profile that can be tracked down to their home address that's been on btctalk for almost 7 years and a decade before that in linux kernel development in the public eye and ... all the rest, that's your call.
935  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BLOCKS PARTY] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 26, 2018, 08:27:24 AM
BTW  I was just contacted by Halong for shipping info I hope to get a dragonmint soon. I will point it here.

I have been studying this pool and I have determined it is going to be the best pool to mine with shortly.

 Once Dragonmints point here and get us of and over the  40ph point we will do very well here,
Great, it will be nice to have you on board. Not sure where the 40PH is coming from but they'd sure be welcome.
936  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 26, 2018, 06:50:32 AM
Got 9 s9's I'm going to be throwing at this pool, hopefully the luck hasn't run out.


Why does the site say its running at 8ph/s but https://btc.com/stats/pool/CKPool says its 112ph/s. I'm a little confused by this.

Because the btc.com estimate of hashrate is bullshit based on how many blocks we've found, and we found 2 in short succession.
937  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BLOCKS PARTY] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 25, 2018, 11:52:19 AM
Cool.
Does that system also help the dust rewards issue that small miners have quite often?

-ck  has a good system for payout , but it is not a dust friendly system.
How do you figure that? It is the most dust friendly payout of any pool as far as I can see. Nothing has a lower dust payout limit nor any way to handle accumulated dust.
938  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BLOCKS PARTY] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: March 25, 2018, 10:47:41 AM
Back from vacation i can't find me ( 1AoWvDMdq4wcndNufsvaMAMFMXZKb4XcFL ) in the payout-list of block 514811.
Block 514852 i'm in with 0.00416072.
My actual derp is 0.00198046.
Is my payout from 514811 added to 514852?
That's correct. If you're not in the top 100 miners, you get a larger payout less frequently.
939  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE 247 blocks solved! on: March 24, 2018, 10:34:49 PM
You can't fake hashrate if it shows up at the pool. However it is possible for rental hash to be withholding blocks meaning you can never find a block here - it is a limitation of rental hash that the rental service should be monitoring and responsible for, but they take NO responsibility on this. However over the years plenty of hashrate has found blocks with various rental services so probably good to stick with well known rentals.

Which rental service(s) do you recommend?  Roll Eyes


I wouldn't recommend any to be honest, but others here can chime in with their experiences. I know that most rentals come from either nicehash or mining rig rentals.
940  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 24, 2018, 10:09:16 PM
Slush did indeed find the first block then and, well, he runs a business in his pool and definitely uses publicity to his advantage - posts everywhere on twitter, reddit etc.

Was it "actually with the Dragonmint"Huh I understand it's "business" with his pool. Kinda my point. However, the publicity, may be false. You in fact know, and published, who hit the blocks in your pool. Wetsuit. We get it. Where is Slush's proof??? I follow you on Twitter, and you post who found it as a "props" to the "-ck pool"user who helped----with proof. Where is the "proof" of the SLUSH user that is a Dragonmint??? Yes, they found a block. Pfffft! Who found it??? Wetsuit found yours, Who found Slush's block??? Marketing is a game of PROOF, and suckers fall for "Big Corporate Names". I trust in you -ck, that Wetsuit found YOUR POOLS' block, but what about Flush???

Not saying there isn't a product, but the Marketing may, in fact, be a Sham. Corporate Bull Honkie!!!
Nah, I appreciate your trust in me and my pool, but I have no doubt it was found on Slush's pool from a T1. It would take far too much effort to orchestrate a fake version rolled block and the mask matches what Slush pool is advertising at the moment. Regular pools move very conservatively. There isn't that much burn in hashrate yet so it was fairly lucky to find a block this early on but you overestimate them  Wink
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