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921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 04:31:20 PM
As a developer who has worked on dev teams for the last 17 years I know that when you need coding/whatever done to finish a project you do whatever is necessary to hire people to get it done.  Put it on a credit card, or go to a bank loan officer and show the 6million in escrow to get a loan to get more developers, anything.  We would freak out for 1 client.  For this there are hundreds of investors waiting.  

This is too long, btc halving coming up.  A release date of 4/11 would have been primo.

My last question - when has anything ever been released perfect? There are always bugs.



Agree +100.
Dev,please.set-up a refund for those ones interest to have btc back.since ico rulse were differents.
It's legit to ask refund if anyone is not anymore confortable with those delay. Some investor are getting nervous.
Be legit, and refund who need btc back.

Many investor invested a lot considering launch was planned on april 11, and just in WORST case(your words dev "WORST CASE"), april end.
Now it's MAY END.
Some investors are unable to invest in other crypto due to btc locked on lisk ico.

That's the risk we all took when investing in ICO coins. I didn't put all my BTC in so I'm able to invest in other things as well. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.

So everyone seems to think this is going no where. Giving these guys more time is all we can do. Wait and hope for the best.


Remember :





https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-part-i-2e7d01955e4d#.ysvgg1qtk
damn i donated my fund to young dev, lol

Well that will never hold up in court that is for sure. Similar to 'we were incorporated in Ecuador' uh uh

No class action could be taken against dev.
He was very smart to write "DONATING" instead of INVEST.
So,everyone have just donate btc, not invested btc in crypto.

Very smart move from dev. Crazy.

In legal term. we have DONATE btc, we don't have Invested btc.


I did not realised that, please can LISK management without delay and postponing  why does they mean by donating? This is not funny and need clarification now please


You have donated your 'money' without read firstly the terms? Really smart ....
922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCR] Crypti | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store | OPEN SOURCE | 100% own code | DPoS on: April 25, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
Basically , lisk is crypti ... but better (Crypti 2.0).

Right ?

Lisk Is Crypti. Not sure if better. The only important new technical feature of Lisk is the inflation. But with the money they (Lisk) received they will add more.

Crypti likely dead now because of 80% stake ownership by Max and Olivier.

So it's more wise, than all the XCR holders should move to lisk instead stay on xcr (if the want) Lisk launch 24th of May.
923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 03:08:17 PM
Any chance of the Devs setting up a Transfer portal so people that want to get their money back can transfer control of their accounts without the buyer running the risk of getting screwed ?
I'm sure there are plenty of people that missed the ICO and people that are already in that would like to buyup those accounts at the original Ico prices.


It'll not be really secure, just wait....
924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 02:42:51 PM
Wow, huge dump on yobit. This thing is going to be worthless by June. Withholding peoples funds is a classic way to build a stampede to the exit.

The sad thing is if they just gave us all IOUs to trade with, there would have been no conflict, as it gives people freedom to sell or speculate whilst the devs fix the technical crap. 


Yes IOU lisk will be worthless .. they don't represent really what is (what's not) lisk and it will be worthless quickly.


Next time dont invest if you cant wait.

Would you prefer an unstable release? and then fork..?
Let the team work on the project!

+1, No reason to rush the release if it isn't ready. It'd only create more issues.

I hope WBB dont have this problem, I can see WBB in your signature and you seems to do quite well. Is WBB similar to Lisk?


Are you really guys , WBB similar to lisk or crypti. I can't take you seriously right no, first WBB is PoW ... lisk is PoS (DPoS) and I would like to stop here.
925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I believe at this time developers should allow for refunds of the donated funds. I also believe they should allow previous donaters  to purchase those refunds with a slight premium to facilitate someones time to process the refunds. Time to put up or Shut up... Please put me at the top of the list to purchase the refunds..


It's a donation, will you give back a donation ? ICO rules has been accepted by each of us, rules are rules. This is how an ico works, they should not complain about the delay.
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 02:07:23 PM
Do you know the tale of ''The boy Who cried Wolf'' that is what is happening to lisk now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

I dont beleive the next date is 24th May, I will not be fooled again

Who cares what u believe or not?
I don't give a shit about what u believe.



All your post that are unhappy with this situation all yuo do is to insult and swear, You are not helping now in this delicate situation to lisk. You have to wash up your mouth and speak with more manners. What Lisk management has done is wrong and we all know that

Why 'delicate situation' ? They are working... they didn't run away with the money.

C'mon guys, if you want to make a serious discussion about lisk use www.lisk.chat or go on www.forum.lisk.io


Bitcointalk it's always the same place... a lot of FUDders and trolls.
927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCR] Crypti | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store | OPEN SOURCE | 100% own code | DPoS on: April 25, 2016, 02:00:08 PM
Basically , lisk is crypti ... but better (Crypti 2.0).

Right ?
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 01:19:46 PM
As a developer who has worked on dev teams for the last 17 years I know that when you need coding/whatever done to finish a project you do whatever is necessary to hire people to get it done.  Put it on a credit card, or go to a bank loan officer and show the 6million in escrow to get a loan to get more developers, anything.  We would freak out for 1 client.  For this there are hundreds of investors waiting.  

This is too long, btc halving coming up.  A release date of 4/11 would have been primo.

My last question - when has anything ever been released perfect? There are always bugs.



Agree +100.
Dev,please.set-up a refund for those ones interest to have btc back.since ico rulse were differents.
It's legit to ask refund if anyone is not anymore confortable with those delay. Some investor are getting nervous.
Be legit, and refund who need btc back.

Many investor invested a lot considering launch was planned on april 11, and just in WORST case(your words dev "WORST CASE"), april end.
Now it's MAY END.
Some investors are unable to invest in other crypto due to btc locked on lisk ico.

That's the risk we all took when investing in ICO coins. I didn't put all my BTC in so I'm able to invest in other things as well. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.

So everyone seems to think this is going no where. Giving these guys more time is all we can do. Wait and hope for the best.


Remember :





https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-part-i-2e7d01955e4d#.ysvgg1qtk
929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 01:10:44 PM
Lisk is doomed!
End of the story.

7 millions funds and no hired devs for the release date as planned.
Shame on you!

Nah it's not doomed.

Wait 24th of May ... after that day it will lose 'its' credibility Wink.


930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 11:15:43 AM
So official LISK release will be on May the 24th, 2016... that is 7 days before WAVES ICO ends... interesting  Huh
Nothing interesting about that. You just wanna promote that shit. Why is this even interesting?

Massive dump incoming.

Don't be a troll... c'mon Wolf Rainer.




Im not being troll. 3 delays are bad to the trust, also the date of launch is the worst, everyone will be in the madness of bitcoin bubble with all the alts going down hard. This is only good for the people who losed the ico and want a chance of buying real cheap (ico price or under), the rest of us who invested in the ico are in troubles, obligated to hold the Lisk for a long time (months) to even get some decent profit.


No, it's not good only for the people who losed the ICO time... it's good also for the people who 'believe' in this project.


I donīt have troubles in waiting, but come on theres not need to lying... The devs can simple tell us "We donīt have an estimated date for launch, it may take several months". But they said before open the ico that the wallet was going to be ready immediately after the ico ends.



The wallet was ready after the ico and a lot of people has started the public test (https://academy.lisk.io/lisk-setting-up-a-delegate-on-the-public-test-network-login-lisk-io-f53ae6d029ea#.cvndu45yn) to 'test' the wallet, the forging system and all the other stuff.

After few weeks someone stressed it with a spam-test (more info here: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-1-4-release-announcement-f1dc62369d8f) and the launch has been delayed more and more... it's better to start with a solid network instead with a weak one.



Think 5 seconds to this :

if the lisk team would have launched on the 11th of April ...they would never noticed these problems (spam attack, blockchain issues etc) and the launch would have been a disaster.
931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 25, 2016, 09:27:52 AM
So official LISK release will be on May the 24th, 2016... that is 7 days before WAVES ICO ends... interesting  Huh
Nothing interesting about that. You just wanna promote that shit. Why is this even interesting?

Massive dump incoming.


Don't be a troll... c'mon Wolf Rainer.





932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 24, 2016, 07:35:27 PM


You can always leave or am I wrong  Grin ?
933  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary one day? on: April 24, 2016, 07:29:41 PM
what is the benefits of being legendary? Bragging rights? I deleted over 2k posts would i have been legendary? maybe but who cares....A few extra coins on my name. This is not important to me it's over rated.

No benefits really, your signature pay as a Hero Member wouldn't differ much if at all to a Legendary Member so yeah as you said bragging rights & a blue coin by your name is the only difference.


It's not a blue coin, it's an indigo coin  ; (between the blue & violet)   /k
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 24, 2016, 07:22:09 PM
Exactly.


935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 24, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 24, 2016, 05:55:17 PM


Quote
Probably a 'bad' post from people who seem to think that it is somehow morally righteous to hold a religious zealot viewpoint that some given project is 100% guaranteed to succeed and that it is immoral to "not have faith". I do not have that viewpoint, I've always understood there's quite a large chance that Ethereum will never get anywhere and I've been public about that in presentations. I'm still doing this because, even if there was a 90% chance of accomplishing nothing at all, the upside on the 10% in terms of how much positive change could be done in the world is so massive that pushing the experiment forward as much as we can is a no-brainer - though I think in reality the chance of making a substantial change to the world is now quite a bit better than 10% Smiley And I think that this is the attitude that we (including ethereum and /r/btc and /r/bitcoin alike) should all have, not just about cryptocurrency holdings but even more so about the time that we all sink into this technology and ecosystem. In Gavin Andresen's words, "so, I still say that it's an experiment, and the whole thing could implode".



https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4g3nok/tuur_demeester_on_twitter_ethereum_founder_has/d2ed6hm
937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 23, 2016, 06:47:25 PM
last week of April here in my place. Any update for launch date ?


Not ye, all we are waiting an announcement on https://blog.lisk.io/
938  Other / Meta / Re: Seriously! Banned my Gleb account. on: April 23, 2016, 05:57:35 PM
IIRC I did warn you about this in the past...

I would say however that I do not agree with this rule, especially when there is no paid signature involved. Posting multiple times does have clear benefits as it makes it very clear that you are making multiple points in relation to a particular topic. Making one post and then a subsequent post immediately after helps empanthesize the second post and would be beneficial to someone making a series of points concluded by a strong/important point.

Having a few consecutive posts every now and then when you don't have a paid sig isn't a big deal, but PG/GG does it habitually. The issue with this is that it unfairly bumps topics (like bumping a topic more than once per 24 hours) and it spams "watchlist", "show unrelad posts since last visit", etc.

Thanks, everybody, for coming to my defense, but I believe theymos is correct, thus will correct my error when I return.

Thank you, themos, for weighing in.

BTW, is that fishing trip still on next week between you, I and several mods? (humor for those thinkin' that I'm a BCT ball cupper  Kiss)


Condolence , I suggest you to lock this thread (if you found the answer to your question).
939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 23, 2016, 05:52:55 PM
Agreed! LISK has a good chance at being valued at $90 US per LISK or 2 million satoshi in 2 years after it's been released.  As long as the tech is efficient and dapps are being created and being utilized by the masses LISK has a reason to be 1/5 of bitcoin's value.

You either mean 20 million stat or think BTC will go to 4.5k to make lisk worth 90bucks and would make it 9 billion marketcap not counting Nodes stake thats a lot more then Bitcoin atm.
So ill assume u mean 9 bucks and that Imo might very well be possible in 2 years.

I'm saying a 9 billion US dollar market cap for LISK.

Why can't Lisk be separate from bitcoin?  Nothing in business, financials , investments, world powers are number 1 forever.
Now it is also probably that bitcoin could have a 30 billion US dollar market cap in 2 years.

Well I hope your right Smiley but then your 2 million sat number should have been 20 Wink

9 billion is absurdly ambitious. How many lisk are in circulation?


At the moment 0 lisk, you can find all the information in the first post (link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.0).
940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 23, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
Lisk investors waiting for launch date announcement:




Lol and what about ethereum investors Cheesy ? Did you remember ?
Fine. I won't make no bones about it.  Cheesy



Yeah of course  Grin, I think the launch will be on May (first weekend).
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