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941  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2014, 01:27:41 PM
cryptos are my full time job, I want BTC only UP UP UP.
Your living expenses are most likely pegged to fiat, so for the time being try to get an income that is also pegged to fiat.

That way when the price goes lower it just means you accumulate more bitcoins and add to your savings.

If the price goes up, then your savings have more purchasing power although you're adding to them more slowly.

Then you fundamentally don't care which way the price moves.
942  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2014, 01:22:50 PM
All these n00bs that don't remember 2011...

You remember what happened 2011 ? good because whoever were present should know better than anyone else what a long bear market means.
It means the trolls should get better FUD, or at least something new.
943  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proposing new feature in Bitcoin protocol to reduce the number of thefts on: September 28, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
So, we would like to propose this feature to be added to Bitcoin protocol:

A "Time Lock" command for Bitcoin addresses.
Are you aware that Bitcoin addresses do not exist on the blockchain or in the protocol?
944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 28, 2014, 12:41:58 PM
All these n00bs that don't remember 2011...
945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
every transaction paid with Bitcoin will be dumped on the nearest exchange immediately
I don't believe that BitPay gets all, or maybe even most, of their dollars from exchanges.

They probably have underwriters who want to accumulate bitcoins without going through the exchanges who buy them from BitPay.

They've had this kind of arrangement in the past - according to rumours some people became Bitcoin millionaires via this route - but I don't know if they still do it.
946  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The HODL faucet challenge on: September 27, 2014, 03:57:11 PM
It is valuable because of its utility, that however gets lost if we are obsessed with its valued and HODLing it.
A major part, or even the majority of, Bitcoin's utility is the fact that you can save in it without having your savings confiscated by a third party or devalued by arbitrarily large amount of new issuances.

Smear campaigns against savers are underhanded tactics employed by people who want to obtain Bitcoins at lower prices.
947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The HODL faucet challenge on: September 27, 2014, 03:10:43 PM
Giving away something for free is not a good way to establish that it's valuable.
948  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
the question becomes: what *are* the applications which are worth paying millions of times more per compute cycle, which DO NOT involve an Oracle?
Exactly.

Ethereum's long term viability rests on the assumption that there is enough of these applications that servicing them will be profitable, i.e. the price that users of such applications will be willing to pay in transaction fees will be sufficient to cover the costs of operating the Ethereum network.

When was the last time you heard somebody involved with Ethereum spend any time at all explaining the long term value proposition of the Ethereum network?
949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
but still, for a system that is supposed to hold and secure all sorts of valuable assets, i know i'm not the first one to bring up the concern regarding infinite loops due to Turing completeness.
I'm satisfied that they can fix infinite loops by paying per cycle.

What's more concerning is that nobody has bothered to do many actual use case evaluations and cost/benefit analysis.

Etherum is supposed to be, fundamentally, a blockchain-based computer.

Because it's a global blockchain, the cycle times need to be somewhere on the order of minutes to ensure synchronization.

Cycle times in the minutes means a clock frequency in the millihertz range.

The processor in your smartphone operates in the gigahertz range.

That's not quite a fair comparison - each tick of the Ethereum computer can do more useful work than a single tick in an transitional CPU. How much more work? Maybe about a million times more work.

This means Ethereum is a computer with an effective clock speed in the kilohertz range. (The Intel 8086 processor released in 1976 had a minimum 5 megahertz clock speed)

Sure, it's Turing-complete, but the kinds of applications you're going to run on a computer with kilohertz-scale cycle times and access latencies measured in minutes are going to resemble the kind of programs that used to be written on punch cards more than they'll resemble Windows 8.

Oh, and how about the cost?

Let's assume there really are applications that are appropriate for the Ethereum computer. Not only are there applications, but the market demand for these applications is great enough that the transaction fees will pay for the operation of the Ethereum network (no network can pay for itself via currency printing for ever, after all).

Computations performed on the CPU in your PC only need to involve the transistors in a single chip, and are generally only performed once.

Computations performed on Ethereum need to be duplicated by CPUs all over the world and broadcast all over the globe.

Running your applications on Ethereum (absent any currency-printing subsidy) is going to be millions of times more expensive than running it on a local CPU.

Certainly there will be some applications that absolutely require what Ethereum does and will be willing to pay six orders of magnitude more than other alternatives in order to get it, but will there be enough of those applications to pay for the operation of the Ethereum network?
950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2014, 12:55:49 PM
You have let the cat out. I wonder how the trolls will respond.
When you're observing reactions consider that I haven't made any comments at all directed at any specific post or forum member's behaviour.
951  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
952  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
How could something this hard to generate to be use daily?
How much iron ore do you personally refine on any given day?
953  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
it means the mission to infest bitcointalk and sway it into a bitcoin-negative site is working ... Jorge and the team will get their bonuses from Uncle Sam

I wonder why it turns out this way. Initially it was such a quality forum.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This economist professor was right. on: September 26, 2014, 02:51:59 AM
"Economist Simon Johnson says governments will feel the urge to suppress the crypto-currency Bitcoin."

OMG, really?

I always thought they'd welcome Bitcoin with open arms. What a surprise!
955  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
http://contrariancompliance.com/2014/09/25/bitcoiners-are-repeating-forgotten-history-and-are-accordingly-doomed/ --Aaron Greenspan

Is this guy for real? I would think that someone who spent so much energy trying to developer a new payment system(FaceCash) and was abruptly shut down by the authorities would have more respect for such a distributed system. Is he just butthurt that isn't wasn't himself to come up with it?
In part one of that article series he bragged about suing his business competitors in federal court for getting away with things he didn't.

Any further douchebaggery on his part after that revelation falls into the "not even a little bit surprising" category.
956  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Please stop turning into morons just because you see "Brock Pierce" somewhere on: September 25, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
The hope is that if a bank or group of banks do it, while following most of the same regulations they already do, they won't get shut down.
If that's the plan, I have a hard time believing that anyone involved has done the slightest bit of due diligence regarding the regulations involved.

Realcoin would most likely fit into those regulations as a stored value instrument, and I don't see how the kinds of restrictions which apply to them would be at all acceptable to the intended users of Realcoin.
957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2014, 02:53:54 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/us-banks-announce-ripple-protocol-integration/

This gonna be huge. And bullish as fuck, to quote adam.

Ripple may turn out to be what saves Bitcoin and fuels the next rally.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Ripple is the US banking system's attempt to avoid being destroyed by Bitcoin.

They think that if they make USD transactions easier then they'll be able to avoid losing the USD as a unit of account.

Note that Ripple's consensus system is a closed, invite-only network. Exactly what you'd want if you were trying to preserve a banking cartel's position in the world.
958  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitmessage - P2P Messaging system based partially on Bitcoin on: September 24, 2014, 01:52:41 PM
Why isn't that enough to solve this problem?
It is. (once it's actually implemented)

Someone's just FUDing.

If you actually READ (as in RTFM) the thread, such a grouping or streams solution is not simple as you might naively assume. And probably why it is not implemented.



Anyone who is actually a programmer knows the "devil is in the details". So these idiots who make proclamations based on some general rumor or conceptual idea, can't hold a candle to someone who is actually down in the trenches implementing this stuff and thus speaks from a deeper understanding of the issues involved.

For the meantime, Bitmessage is dead. And bringing it back to life isn't going to be trivial.

So who is trolling, as you always do.

Anyone still paying attention to this "Legendary" idiot deserves the misinformation he spews.

Official version of Bitmessage is functioning for me again, even though the broadcast spam is still high.

Apparently many users moved to the new experimental version.

Quoted for lolz.
959  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 23, 2014, 11:47:43 PM
anybody stupid enough to lend out BTC for shorting deserves to lose ALL of them.
...and they probably will.
960  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 23, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
RE: digital money beating gold.
If it wasn't for the religion of gold throwing so many smokescreens up around the issue, it would be generally considered as obvious as the fact that the internal combustion engine beat horses as a transportation provider.
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