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1341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: well, ether sale has started. on: July 23, 2014, 02:30:27 AM
you have 2 week to think about it before they become more expensive.
you have 41 days to think about it before you can't buy them until their genesis block goes live.
The funniest thing I've seen all day is Mircea Popescu selling Ether futures, 5000/btc deliverable 2015-03-15.
1342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2014, 01:13:20 AM
Since when Wall Observer thread became Politics & Society?
Wall Observer thread is secretly the forum lounge thread.
1343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: July 22, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
powerful article that lays bare the ugly truth.

Have central banks been breaking the law?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/10981011/Have-central-banks-been-breaking-the-law.html
Laws are what the rulers use to control their subjects.

As such, central banks are in no way bound by laws. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.
1344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to zero - Karl Denninger Tickerforum.org on: July 22, 2014, 02:43:03 AM
I remember, hello again. - aka Ponzi_Unit
I wish I hadn't lost the login information to my original bitcointalk account, which matched my tickerforum account name, but it points at an email address I no longer have so there's no way to recover it.
1345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to zero - Karl Denninger Tickerforum.org on: July 22, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
That's twisted  Shocked    Bitcoin certainly challenges rule makers, many things appear to be starting over from scratch with bitcoin.  Maybe he's afraid that people can't control government and bitcoin is govcoin? Personally, I see past it because I can count 100 good things for every 1 bad thing and I can see government as the consensus of the local/county/state/country blockchains.
FYI: I would say I knew Karl fairly well. I was an highly active member of his forums (and Gold Donator) for over four years. I was the one who explained how Bitcoin worked to him back in 2011/2012.

It's not that he's afraid people can't control government - that would make him favour Bitcoin - he blames the population for not controlling the government and holding them accountable for the Constitution.

So far this view has lead him to start two unsuccessful attempts at new political parties and numerous protests, and despite those failures he refuses to accept the possibility that the road to the solution to all the problems he's identified does not pass through politics.

1346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to zero - Karl Denninger Tickerforum.org on: July 21, 2014, 09:42:33 PM
I thought it fascinating that one of Bitcoins biggest detractors makes an excellent point for 100% reserves.
It's just a quirk of fate that Tickerguy is an enemy of Bitcoin.

He's completely devoted to the cult of the State, despite making it his life's work to expose how corrupt and evil it is.

He's got a strong background in programming, finance, and macro economics, so he knows exactly what Bitcoin represents. That's why he opposes it.

Karl Denninger does not want a world to exist in which governments no longer control the money.
1347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: July 21, 2014, 09:18:13 PM
Shouldn't be surprising, but Coinbase is involved with browser fingerprinting.

https://www.cosic.esat.kuleuven.be/fpdetective/

And they don't even respect Do Not Track.
1348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
True, but what could possibly happen in 2015 to change this? Are you implying we'll have a trusteable exchange? What constitutes a trusteable exchange? Of course anything is more trusteable than some manchild that used to play Magic the Gathering, but im just saying, what would the ideal scenareo be on there?
http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Voting_Pools
1349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2014, 02:30:20 PM
But when I want to make an informed trading decision, I need to take an "external" view, one that doesn't take into account the higher goals of the Bitcoin movement, but only considers the objective reality of the market situation (as in: the likelihoods of certain outcomes). This being the speculation subforum, I sometimes would hope for a bit more tolerance of this type of analysis.
Even considering the external view, there are reasonable discussions to be had regarding time preferences and opportunity cost.

Even if everybody accepts the end goal is to finish with the largest pile of Bitcoins, there are different strategies for doing so.

One person might try to sell at local tops and buy back in at local bottoms on a fairly frequent basis.

Another person might do this infrequently, only after large movements, and use their remaining time to accumulate more Bitcoins from other types of activity than trading.
1350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2014, 02:11:52 PM
I feel there's a certain level of cognitive dissonance rampant on this forum: everyone welcomes the "free market" and "doing exactly what you think is right", but when it applies to BTC price, those who sell early rather than wait for a much higher price level are considered as acting almost anti-social.
We're in the midst of a civil war of sorts, with Bitcoin currently serving as the battleground.

On one side, there are people for whom Bitcoin is a succession movement (from fiat). On the other hand are the people who are working to maintain fiat hegemony.

The two groups have opposing goals, so naturally they don't see eye-to-eye.
1351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2014, 01:46:21 AM
That, coupled with the apparent inability for people to let their winners run caused him to speculate that if/when Wall Street level traders do show up, that the "day tradurrz" of BTC right now are going to get chewed the fuck up.

I can't wait.
Day tarding is just a bad idea in general.
1352  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Unrecognized! Trying to sign transaction on cold storage [solved] on: July 21, 2014, 01:42:51 AM
It's called "Do not ask again" or "Do not show this message again".  That's been there for a while but only when you click the "Offline Transactions" button on the main window.  On the .11 testing release, it is now also displayed when you try to create any unsigned transaction.  

If you click the "Do not show again" box, it will disable it in both places.
Sounds perfect.
1353  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Unrecognized! Trying to singn transaction on cold storage on: July 20, 2014, 05:54:06 PM
I think getting such a warning every time would be rather annoying.
Somebody should invent a general solution to the problem of repetitive and redundant warning dialogs.

If only there was some way for a user to indicate that they have seen a warning and thus should not have not have it shown again... such an invention could be useful in a wide variety of situations.
1354  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Unrecognized! Trying to singn transaction on cold storage on: July 20, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Best it could do is to warn you it's incompatible with older versions and you should upgrade if that is the case.
Exactly.
1355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GAZA - Why not have a bitcoin center? on: July 20, 2014, 03:04:28 PM
Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to that part of the world is an earthquake that dropped the entire region into the Mediterranean Sea.

We've seen nearly a century of conflict between equally-guilty sides, supplied and funded by a bunch of governments around the world at the expense of their own populations because it's a good way to make some extra money for the arms exporters and I'm tired of hearing about it.

If war is the health of the state, that part of the world must be its spa.
1356  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Unrecognized! Trying to singn transaction on cold storage on: July 20, 2014, 02:20:10 PM
Breaking compatibility like that and just give users big red non-descriptive error messages really isn't very elegant though  Undecided

Alan can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he added a much clearer warning to 0.91.99.9.
Is the warning going to be in the right place?

The warning should occur on the online instance of Armory as soon as they try to being the spending process from an offline wallet.

Currently you don't get a warning at all until you've created the unsigned transaction, moved it to the offline machine, and try to sign it.
1357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2014, 01:08:13 PM
That's what Big Trade is buying into - the utility, not the speculative opportunity, so I'm not expecting another "launch".  I'll be very surprised if we see $1000 again - there's no good reason for it at the transactional level.
That belief is certainly the goal which the present psyop against Bitcoin is attempting to achieve.
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: July 20, 2014, 12:35:21 PM
well, tbh, I've never seen a police officer murder an innocent citizen in broad daylight by jumping him from behind and choking him to death with 6 other officers all on film.
True, they are usually more subtle about it.
1359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: July 20, 2014, 07:08:34 AM
Careful guys, we now live in a country where selling "untaxed cigarettes" can get you killed.
You just now noticed?

Every law describes a situation that can get you killed, because the ultimate penalty for violating any law, no matter how trivial, is always death.
1360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2014, 03:47:57 AM
Quote
Following today’s announcement, consumers and small business owners are able to purchase all items on Dell.com using bitcoin. To promote the news, the company is offering a 10% discount on all Alienware-brand products to bitcoin buyers.
From http://www.coindesk.com/computer-giant-dell-now-accepts-bitcoin/

Almost makes me want to get a new one... too bad the old one was so good, it really is hard for quality products to compete with Crap you just replace every other year.
Isn't Dell one of the companies whose products come with NSA-sponsored malware? That Alienware deal is a plot to steal your coins!

Seriously though - selling compromised computers to people known to own bitcoins is an attack vector somebody is going to try sooner or later.
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