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1401  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2014, 03:52:30 AM
My walrus says another 2 weeks tops, and we'll break $700.
 It could be much sooner though.........
My mercat says we should expect a movement either up or down in the next 24 hours, unless we trade sideways.
1402  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 08, 2014, 08:20:28 PM
Anarchy on a larger scale often arises involuntarily after the collapse of a centralized government with a complex administrative infrastructure
Anarchy does not arise after the collapse of a government.

That's a flawed as saying that atheism arises after a church burns down.
1403  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Help me set up a merchant on: July 08, 2014, 07:42:23 AM
I JUST POSTED THAT! >_<
Yeah. I was editing my post when you posted that ^.
1404  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Help me set up a merchant on: July 08, 2014, 07:36:52 AM
In short:   Whats the quick, seamless onramp for a one time payment from a random person (who has no Bitcoins) to a Bitcoin account holder?
He should set up a Coinvoice account. Then he'll be able to invoice customers in USD and receive the payments in BTC.

The situation you describe is exactly the problem it was designed to solve.

https://coinvoice.com/

Edit (missed Lethn's post)

I have no idea whether they are legitimate or not
They are legitimate. They are the company behind btcd and well-known programmers in the OpenBSD community.

They do the minimum amount of KYC they must do, and really are intended for businesses (which don't have any privacy anyway) instead of home users.
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS-Linked Blog Reportedly Says Bitcoin Could Be Used For ‘Global Jihad’ on: July 08, 2014, 05:44:55 AM
Then who cares if Overstock or Dish network take Bitcoin. It won't help the price at all.
Those coins that are being spent at Overstock or Dish aren't being sold on the exchanges, and the existence of more places to spend Bitcoins will nudge people who were on the edge into buying.
1406  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase is turning into some sort of anti-bitcoin Mordor on: July 08, 2014, 05:38:13 AM
Ya, so what?
I don't particularly care whether or not I have a Coinbase account - my need to convert a USD income into bitcoin has run its course.

The next generation of new Coinbase users, on the other hand, deserve to know what they are getting into so they won't be able to claim they weren't warned when the inevitable Goxxing happens.
1407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS-Linked Blog Reportedly Says Bitcoin Could Be Used For ‘Global Jihad’ on: July 08, 2014, 02:13:10 AM
As far as I'm concerned, that was likely one disgruntled customer
Nope.

1408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS-Linked Blog Reportedly Says Bitcoin Could Be Used For ‘Global Jihad’ on: July 08, 2014, 01:40:36 AM
Or, better yet, apply to become one of Coinbase's Business Development Managers so you can earn a living while educating retailers about how they can work around all the credit cards that are owned by big banks simply by accepting Bitcoin.
Nope.

http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/08/re-enhanced-due-diligence/
1409  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Least Goxable exchange? on: July 08, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
There are no safe exchanges, yet.

What would you consider safe?
http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/12/06/voting-pools-how-to-stop-the-plague-of-bitcoin-heists-thefts-hacks-scams-and-losses/
1410  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase is turning into some sort of anti-bitcoin Mordor on: July 08, 2014, 01:22:32 AM
http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/08/re-enhanced-due-diligence/
1411  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/b-money/

Quote from: Wei Dai
I am fascinated by Tim May's crypto-anarchy. Unlike the communities traditionally associated with the word "anarchy", in a crypto-anarchy the government is not temporarily destroyed but permanently forbidden and permanently unnecessary. It's a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations.

Until now it's not clear, even theoretically, how such a community could operate. A community is defined by the cooperation of its participants, and efficient cooperation requires a medium of exchange (money) and a way to enforce contracts. Traditionally these services have been provided by the government or government sponsored institutions and only to legal entities. In this article I describe a protocol by which these services can be provided to and by untraceable entities.

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/bitcoin/

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
References

1.    W. Dai, "b-money," http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt, 1998. ↩
1412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
Not coins stolen
What are you talking about? The police stole the bitcoins from the exchange and it's customers.
1413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
http://bitcoinvox.com/article/838/french-police-closed-illegal-exchange
1414  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-04-07] RT: Bitcoin revolution wins over world on: July 07, 2014, 06:46:23 AM
It's painful to read all the comments at the bottom of the article. The peoples' comments are loaded with ignorance, misconception, false information and fear.

It is mind blowing there are that many people with false ideas about Bitcoin. It's like a huge number.

It goes to show you that's where a lot of the population is at on this right now. That's why we're still early adopters as amazing as that may seem 5 years after the beginning of Bitcoin. Still a long ways to go, but we're making progress. At least people are talking about it Smiley
Don't make the mistake of thinking the comments on news sites represent the thoughts of the population at large.

Most of those comments are made by people who are paid to make those comments for the express purpose of manipulating the narrative.
1415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: July 07, 2014, 02:29:54 AM
and you dont need to be so damn offensive. thats what you get for admitting your wrong. you need to learn some common decency and get out of the basement for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_%28psychology%29
1416  Economy / Economics / Re: Spain confiscates 0.03% of all bank deposits. on: July 07, 2014, 01:38:48 AM
Price stability, merchant adoption and core development funding should be at the top of our priority list.
How do you propose to make price stability a priority? What kinds of actions does that actually involve?
1417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody left your day job for bitcoin? on: July 06, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
when btc gets to 100k ~ 1M then ask this question.

you seriously believe bitcoin could go upto 1 million per coin
That's always been the endgame.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r8iwt/satoshi_and_hal_finney_discuss_the_value_of/
1418  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-04]cryptocoinsnews - How Bitcoin Merchants are Pushing the Price Down on: July 06, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
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Every time a new business accepts Bitcoin, the community cheers. But they should be sober. Because all those Bitcoins are converted straight into dollars, driving the Bitcoin value down.
People need to do their homework a bit more thoroughly.

What do you mean? (Sincere question)

I think he was saying that the premise and the model it was based on - that usage, even converting bitcoin immediately into fiat, drives the price down - was in error.
The error is the assumption that every dollar that a merchant receives comes from the exchanges.

There are investors who get their bitcoins indirectly by underwriting payment processors fiat, so in some cases the merchant receiving dollars represents an off-market purchase of Bitcoins by an underwriter.

Maybe you could say this is "driving the price down" because if this route was not available, then the investors would have to purchase on the open market and thus move the exchange rate up, but that's a harder claim to prove.
1419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5 Global Problems Bitcoin’s Proof of Work Can Help Solve! on: July 06, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
If you read the above, you will see one example of what distributed scientific computing has achieved. Now imagine thousands or even millions of miners doing computations in every single science field because they get coins for doing so. Imagine the discoveries that will be made!
You can have calculations that are useful for other things, or you can have calculations that are useful as proof of work, but they can't be the same calculations.
1420  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-04]cryptocoinsnews - How Bitcoin Merchants are Pushing the Price Down on: July 06, 2014, 02:48:48 PM
Quote
Every time a new business accepts Bitcoin, the community cheers. But they should be sober. Because all those Bitcoins are converted straight into dollars, driving the Bitcoin value down.
People need to do their homework a bit more thoroughly.
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