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941  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitscalper passwords have been leaked on: February 13, 2012, 09:44:13 AM
Plain text passwords?  Words escape me how incompetent someone could be to even think of allowing that.  It's an unforgivable error.
942  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy shit look at that wall on: February 13, 2012, 03:47:23 AM
I am not amused...

I'm very amused, as many people still consider bitcoin to be a natural market that follows analysis of fancy graphs.  Today's action highlights that bitcoin is a plaything for people with a lot of money to burn.  It's a toy like Newton's Balls on an executive desk to keep him amused between board meetings.  The amount of speculative money in the market surely dwarfs any real commerce taking place.
943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy shit look at that wall on: February 13, 2012, 03:34:47 AM
LOL.  Massive amount of bids at $5.20, and asks at $5.21.  Hilarious.  Someone is putting on a great show.
944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy shit look at that wall on: February 13, 2012, 02:58:43 AM
omg its the end of bitcoin!

Sounds like a fantastic time to make some money.  Scare people with 'wall', buy up bitcoins, remove asks, watch confidence go up and sell.  It's beautiful to watch.  The question is, when will the market stop playing this little game and burn the speculator(s) responsible...
945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rocket is secretly taking off on: February 12, 2012, 12:56:40 PM
Like Whitney Houston's career?


Too early?

By many accounts she loved to partake in certain illegal substances.  Maybe she took a walk on the Silk Road once too often.
946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gox is goxxing? on: February 08, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Playing with Bitconica atm.  Someone dumped the price so I bought some longs.  Price back up to $5.67.  Profit.  Nice.

Is someone deliberately screwing around with the bitcoin price?  Can't think of any other reason to dump the price to $5.30 in an instant and see it quickly build back up again.
947  Economy / Speculation / Re: leverage rally is done at 6.15-6.2 on: February 02, 2012, 10:34:44 PM
you guys have been talking about the starfish for ages. i don't even use bitcoinica and it's starting to get really annoying. if the indicator were indeed that clear-cut then the market would have corrected for it already -- you constantly talk about it on the forums.

Indeed.  I often see a star next to the buy and sell prices. Sometimes only on the buy price.  Yet, none of this seems to have an affect on bitcoin's price.  It's not moving at the moment, and hasn't done so for the last 24 hours.  Bitcoinica only seems to have a large impact on bitcoin when people are forced to liquidate.  Then the fun starts.  Otherwise it's a non issue.
948  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another rally cut short by bitcoinica.. on: February 02, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
It's quite common to see goal orientated analysis on the Bitcoin forum.  It goes something like this: "Bitcoin is going up, so what reasons can I find for it doing so?" and "Bitcoin didn't go up as it should have, what reasons can I find for it not behaving the way I expected?"

Bitcoinica is the latest in a long string of entities blamed with either failing to pump the price up, or clamping the rise.  Bitcoinica has replaced 'the manipulator'.  On the up side, The Good Wife failed to produce thousands of eager new bitcoin customers right after they saw the show (despite claims by many this would happen).
949  Economy / Speculation / Re: If a double ramp happens, we could see $8 tomorrow. on: February 02, 2012, 06:12:33 AM
We won't be seeing $8 till everyone gets their tax returns.

That's true for some places (particularly the USA), but tax returns arrive at all times of the year depending on where a person lives.  I got mine in October.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year
950  Economy / Speculation / Re: If a double ramp happens, we could see $8 tomorrow. on: February 02, 2012, 02:56:20 AM
The sudden surge to $6.20 helped me trade out of some losing positions for a mild profit.  I quite liked this morning's sudden buying binge.

The one thing we do know about bitcoin is that it's impossible to predict (without insider knowledge) when a huge dump or price rise is coming.  People like to claim they knew, after the fact.
951  Economy / Speculation / Re: what would happen if on: February 02, 2012, 02:53:45 AM
we put all our funds into the same (fake) support wall at some price
for example,
we all put a bid at 5.00 and make a wall of support sky high Smiley

or if we all install some open source bot that would slide our fake wall always 10% under the current price

The key word here is "all".  It only takes one person to change their strategy and act counter to everyone else for the whole 'fake' bid wall to unravel.  If a trader finds a way to make money because everyone else is colluding to do something else, they will.
952  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: February 02, 2012, 12:41:19 AM
GRRR im so bad at trading. I sold at the lowest point possible. 5.21    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR i sold all my coins too
STOP SELLING YOUR BITCOINS

Sound advice.  If we all didn't sell the price would only go up.

 Wink
953  Economy / Speculation / Re: Block Reward changing to 25 BTC in November-December 2012 on: January 27, 2012, 04:47:12 AM
The block reward was 50 btc when we hit $32 in June, and it was 50 when we touched $2 in December.  The block reward has no impact on the price.  It may however have an impact on miner profitability.
954  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Not to worry the wall at 5.20, is made of solid gold on: January 27, 2012, 03:16:57 AM
Don't worry, the $5 wall is made of solid gold.  It'll hold.

 Cheesy

When do we see mass selling of long positions on bitcoinica?  I don't think its happened yet.
955  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Not to worry the wall at 5.20, is made of solid gold on: January 27, 2012, 03:14:51 AM
BOOM!  9k of bitcoins sold and away we go.  Bye wall.
956  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Not to worry the wall at 5.20, is made of solid gold on: January 27, 2012, 03:11:03 AM
Nom nom nom.  Bricks being eaten away on the wall.
957  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Not to worry the wall at 5.20, is made of solid gold on: January 27, 2012, 02:49:12 AM
The 'walls' have never failed, and never will.  Traders see a massive torrent of trades heading towards their 'wall' and momentum shifting towards the negative and just leave all their bids in place.  Have faith in the 'walls'!

 Cheesy  Grin  Wink
958  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will it happen? on: January 27, 2012, 02:36:33 AM
It's happening.  I can feel it coming.
959  Economy / Speculation / Re: See that flashing * on bitcoinica on: January 26, 2012, 11:31:25 PM
Seriously, if someone big dumps now, it might just be the Judgment Day for the margin trading madness.

Let's hope it happens soon.  The less leveraged gamblers in the system, the better.
960  Economy / Speculation / Re: Smart Money has left the building… Have you? on: January 26, 2012, 01:55:30 PM
The true believers in bitcoin should be buying up all the bitcoins they can while they're this cheap.  There is no asterisk on Bitconica's buy side, and anyway, true believers would use their own cash to reaffirm their convictions.

Can't I believe in bitcoin and want to profit?  So far I haven't, but I'd like to.

If I sell at $7 and buy back at $5; then am I damaging bitcoin in some way?

No, but the problem can be framed in another way.

I think it's dangerous to put ideology into a currency.  If everyone uses bitcoin to maximise their own profit, then good will emerge automatically (Adam Smith told us this 200 years ago).

There is a limit to Adam Smith's 'invisible hand': if everyone uses bitcoin to maximise their own profit while screwing everyone else over as hard as they can, eventually the players may tire of the game.  In some games the only way to win is not to play the game.  Human nature is pretty stubborn and downright stupid however, as evidenced by packed casinos around the world.  Maybe the players will never tire of the game.

Wild swings in price may result in many players losing the game, with a few large winners.  The large winners need more players in the game otherwise they'll be left with interesting electronic tokens that few want to buy.

If good comes automatically from players maximising their own profit, then I don't see what all the fuss is about with CFDs, Goldman Sachs, flash crashes and holding stocks for seconds before selling them.  Good does come automatically, naturally.

Those people bouncing the price around, with presumably large amounts (to us) of cash will one day find that bitcoin has started to take hold on a massive scale and they will lose money on a bounce.  Then on the next bounce, and again, and again.  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are already losing money every bounce.

That's assuming the large players are losing the game, not the small players.

I don't think they're doing any harm to bitcoin long term anyway.  Seriously, while the bitcoin economy is still small, it makes very little difference whether the price is $4 or $8.  If it becomes mainstream, then the price will need to be in the hundreds of dollars (FOREX does $4 trillion a day); and that will happen all on its own.

Bitcoin is just as useful as a means of transaction at $0.10 as it is at $10.  The problem is many people are not using it as a means of transaction: they're using it as a speculative vehicle for extracting profit.  New players need to enter the game or old losing players need to stump up more cash or the game ends.  Recent price activity is testing the conviction of the true believers.
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