I concur. I agree with you but Swofty wants to wait to give the Cloudbet scammers more time even though this has been going on for over 40 days.

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

Which country is your lawyer based in?

Because that is one of the main tactics used by selective scamming websites. Any excuse to withhold funds or suspend accounts.

The scammers official Minex censored thread now shows this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.0

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (101 posts by 14 users with 1 merit deleted.)

They hit a century of deleting posts since they opened the censored thread with their first post on 28th December 2018.

That means in the 45 days the censored scam thread has been active they have deleted 101 posts from 14 different users.

Pathetic scammers are deleting on average more than 2 posts a day in order to stop other people finding out about their Minex scam but thanks to this thread their scam has been exposed.

With the greatest respect Albert/Swofty, please control your frustrations.

We all understand your issues and share your concerns. As mentioned before on several occasions we will try our best to stand alongside you and will try to help you get your funds back but whatever you do please post in a calm and polite manner to those trying to help you.

marlboroza is an active and highly respected member of this forum. He never alluded you faked anything, on the contrary he was being objective and trying to look at things from all angles. He is right, it does not make sense that the scammers at Cloudbet would allow you to withdraw large amounts of BTC on certain given days then suspend your account another day. Having said that, it does not mean that you have done anything wrong. Only the Cloudbet scammers can explain "how, who and why" they select their victims and I do not see them explaining their internal scam techniques here.

We are all going to stand by you. 335+ BTC is a huge amount of money to be scammed between the 3 of you so we will stand and confront the scammers alongside you but if we are on the same team we need to be patient with each other.

Thank you

The user mentioned in previous posts that he was allowed to make those withdrawals and deposits but all of a sudden without any notification the Cloudbet scammers starting pulling the "investigation" trick.

The motive behind why the Cloudbet scammers did it is something only they know and I cannot see them elaborating on why they did it. Maybe it has something to with the actual size of the winnings going over a particular threshold over a particular amount of days but it seems legitimate to me.

Cloudbet have not come forward to confirm nor deny what is going on with the claim of these 3 specific users but so far it seems on evidence of screenshots provided that Cloudbet have not only suspended the account but also frozen the funds so he cannot move them, not discounting the other issue which is refusal to payout the winnings that he won.

Thank you.

As you can see several members are with you, supporting you trying to help you.

Stay positive. The community is standing alongside you, we will all try our best to help you get your funds back.

Cloudbet cannot and will not get away with this. We will all hold them to account and will support you until they give your funds back.

Thank you for posting the image.

The withdrawal attempts shown in the image along with dates involved put Cloudbet in a very sad and very bad light.

Selective scammers are among the lowest of the low thieves. This scam attempt has been going on since New Years Eve and Cloudbet claim there is an "investigation" on-going.

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

Pathetic scammers.

Interesting link. I hope things move forward where innocent investors do not lose out.

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If that is the case it means his crypto in stuck in limbo. if that is the case he is at the mercy of the Cloudbet scammers unless or until they unblock his account.

If this is what has happened it is an absolute disgrace that they have selective scammed these customers out of over 335 BTC.

@Ronnie - Do you really want to work for a scam outfit like Cloudbet? Your reputation is being tainted along with that of Cloudbet. Surely you and the customers that have been scammed deserve better.

While this "investigation" is going on your account is suspended/locked.

Do you have funds in your balance? Are able to withdraw them to your BTC wallet on your desktop or mobile?

So this Andy scammer from Cloudbet is stating your original bet was refunded back to your account?

When he stated your account is suspended does it mean you cannot withdraw your funds until their "investigation" is complete?

Their scam official censored Minex thread now shows: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.0

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Thank you for bringing that to my attention Bazinga442.

Does anybody know the exact total Cloudbet scammed from the OP and the other two users that are mentioned in the thread?

I had no idea the OP won more bets while the fake "investigations" were going on.

Cloudbet should hang their heads in shame and Ronnie should ask himself how he can continue to work as a front line customer services contact for a scam outfit.

**BUMP**

Recently some new information came to light that could help in a legal case against scammer Dean Nolan.

if you have any information that might help in prosecuting scammer Dean Nolan because of his betking scam please contact me.

Confidentiality guaranteed.

The scam betking website and Dean Nolan are well known as scam and scammer because they have been exposed.

After scammer Dean Nolan scams users he then plays the victim card and pretends to be innocent.

This is a release by scammer Dean Nolan: https://medium.com/@BetKingIO/how-bkb-holders-benefit-from-the-new-eos-airdrop-ee1941d349f8




How BKB holders benefit from the new EOS airdrop
BetKing
Feb 2

There have been some concerns from existing BKB (BetKing Bankroll) token holders that the new EOS token and Airdrop will dilute their share of the profit from the BetKing.io platform.

The main argument is that the new EOS token we are creating, BKT, has 30% of the supply airdropped to EOS account holders on the EOS blockchain and only 10% of the supply shared with BKB holders.

Larger share of BKT supply than it looks

There will be 10,000,000,000 BKT tokens created on the EOS blockchain.

50% of these tokens will be locked and released only as users bet or trade on the BetKing platform.

There are currently over 906,000,000 EOS in circulation and they trade at around $2.50 at time of writing.

There were 100,000,000 BKB tokens created on the ETH blockchain.

However 50,000,000 of these will be burned from BetKings own holdings before the new BKT token is distributed. BKB currently has a buy back price of $0.099.

We can see that EOS holders will receive around 3.3 BKT for every 1 EOS in their account during the airdrop.

BKB holders will receive 20 BKT per 1 BKB they swap.

Meaning BKB holders will receive 6 times the BKT tokens as EOS holders even though EOS trades at 25x the price of BKB.

After 6 months from the launch date, any BKB that has not been swapped for BKT will be burned if held in BetKing wallets or excluded from swapping to BKT if held in a personal wallet.

Any BKT leftover from the initial 10% reserved for BKB holders will also be burned after 6 months reducing the BKT supply.

There will likely be a lot of dormant or inaccessible EOS accounts that won’t be able to claim their airdropped tokens. These will be burned after 6 months if not claimed.

Exchanges and accounts that hold over 250,000 EOS will be excluded from the airdrop and the BKT that would be dropped to them will be burned, further reducing the supply.

This shows that far less than 50% of the total BKT supply will be in circulation on launch.

Larger profit share

Profit share between bankroll providers and BKT token holders is split 50/50 on the new platform and dividends are paid every hour to token holders.

The old platform had only 10% of profit distributed to BKB token holders.

Only BKT holders who have deposited their funds to BetKing and are actively staking them will receive dividends. So no profit is shared to EOS holders who will never claim their tokens.

BKB holders will likely swap for BKT and start staking before anyone else.

A whole new market of players

The new EOS airdrop allows us to reach a whole new audience of players who have never heard of or played on BetKing before.

There are almost 700,000 EOS accounts that will get free BKT in the airdrop.

That’s a large amount of potential new players looking to play with their new tokens, trade or stake them to earn profit from the BetKing platform.

Players have more incentive than ever to play as we have a new feature called “bet mining” where for every bet players make in any currency they will receive BKT instantly to their account as rakeback which can be traded or staked. 30% of the total BKT will be released this way.

We have an hourly leaderboard that pays out BKT automatically to the top ten accounts that earned the most points each hour.

20% of all BKT will be released in promotions like this and in bounties for users who share posts or links via social media to help promote BetKing.

Greater demand

There are a number of reasons why people may want to own or buy BKT.

The main one being to get a share of the profit earned from betting and trading fees. BKT holders get dividends every hour.

BKT also allows bankroll providers to pay 50% of the commission on their profit with BKT.

Traders can also receive 50% discount on trade fees by paying the fee in BKT.

All withdrawal fees can be paid with BKT also.

This gives real use and value to the new token and will help provide liquidity of the token on the new exchange platform.

Summary

We hope this clears up any concerns existing token holders had of dilution and that this explains a lot of the new benefits and exciting opportunities of the new platform by joining the EOS community and switching to the EOS blockchain for our new token.

You can see how BKB holders can actually get BKT a lot cheaper than EOS holders during the switch.

For investors or players who would like to get BKT to stake or use on the new platform you can buy BKB now on the BetKing.io exchange and receive 20 BKT per 1 BKB after the new platform launches.


This is the only way scammer Dean Nolan sees as a get-rich-quick technique, by tokens and selling, selling and re-selling the betking name. Fool does not understand that people have caught on to the betking scam now.

They cannot hold on to your money, they will release your funds after the Arbitration is over.

They have been shamed and humiliated. They tried to selective scam you and have been exposed. Now all that remains is how long they will keep up the stubborn attitude before they release the funds.

The Rock Trading have been stung by negative publicity and they will not recover from this. Shame on them for causing you so much hassle.

Most welcome, it is always a pleasure trying to help or assist anybody that has been a victim of a scam.

One of the lowest of the low scammers are those that hide behind legitimate businesses and selective scam such as Cloudbet (and Rock Trading, Changelly, Changenow, HolyTansaction, FlypMe as well as several others). See the links in my Scam Alert signature for them.

One of their main tactics is to ask for KYC in order to force the hand of those that wish to remain anonymous. Even after receiving the ID/KYC these scammers do not release funds owed to the customer. They then start asking for proof of how the crypto was traded/purchased and when that is supplied they start saying the IP address of the first login to the last login was different and identity cannot be ascertained - and then they play more and more games in the hope that the customer gives up.

Thanks to this forum it has allowed victims to ask for help as well as expose the scammers. This forum allows all of us to gain traction to mobilise a defence against these scammers.

I was close to nearly adding Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature in the past but gave them the benefit of the doubt but after seeing the latest selective scamming attempt at the value of over 335 BTC I had no choice. I am glad I added Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.