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281  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WARNING - Blockchain.info is NOT SAFE on: December 19, 2012, 02:47:54 PM
I just wanted to mention that a skilled blockchain.info admin can perfectly steal your funds. He just needs to change the javascript sent to your browser in order to get your password.


This is not true.

See here:  https://blockchain.info/wallet/verifier

It should also be noted that ThomasV runs a competitor to Blockchain.info
282  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:42:52 PM

This is NO PASSWORD RESET for Blockchain.info

If you have a secure password,  your money is safe no matter what.

Otherwise I could have reset your password and taken the money you owe me.

Can you contact another admin of blockchain.info and acting as someone else that wants back his own wallet? (and giving the secretpass)
If this is an open possibility, than it's better to find a way to make it harder or better impossible.


This is not possible.

There is no way for an admin or anyone else in the entire world other than someone who knows the current password to change the password.
If you kept your password a secret,  then no one else in the entire world has access to the funds in your blockchain wallet.

283  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:40:09 PM
Otherwise I could have reset your password and taken the money you owe me.

Wow. What a scumbag.

Why should anyone trust you after this? After all, you have no problems going into people's accounts and just taking what you think you are owed in a completely separate business venture. You claim not to be capable, but I'm not sure that I believe a word you say.

BlockChain.info says: "Be your own bank"

What it actually means is: "Open an account at the Roger Ver Bank."

Please look up the difference between "could" and "would"

I would never do such a thing even if I could.
284  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WARNING - Blockchain.info is NOT SAFE on: December 19, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
CharlieContent, This issue has been settled now.
Blockchain.info user funds were safe,  and currently are safe.
At no point was anyone's money in any danger whatsoever.

I no longer have access to any part of Blockchain.info's admin pannel.

I think you should change the thread title to something that is actually true.

Roger Ver
285  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:30:50 PM
And reset their passwords? maybe?

This is NO PASSWORD RESET for Blockchain.info

If you have a secure password,  your money is safe no matter what.

Otherwise I could have reset your password and taken the money you owe me.
286  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
I want to know every informations that an admin of blockchain.info can see.
I thought that most of them were encrypted...

It is all encrypted,  but it depends on  your privacy settings.

Quoted from: https://blockchain.info/wallet/anonymity

Alerts Disabled: If you have notifications disabled your public keys are stored encrypted inside your wallet. In this mode we are unable to view your public keys and hence cannot view your balance or transactions.


Alerts Enabled: When notifications are enabled your public keys are inserted in a separate table along with your email, skype handle or google talk username. This mode does sacrifice some Anonymity as we can now see your public keys and view your wallet balance. However just because a wallet contains a public key does not necessarily mean they are the owner of said key (as you can add keys without the respective private key).

In this case the scammer with my bitcoins had Alerts enabled for his wallet,  so I could easily verify %100 for sure that he has my money in his Blockchain wallet.

If he had his alerts set to Disabled,  I wouldn't know if he really had my money or not.
287  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Wait, wait, wait. So Roger Ver has access to see users wallet passwords in plaintext? So he can theoretically log in to any account on Blockchain.info and send himself whatever he wants? Blaming it on "hackers"? Is that what is happening here?

NO,  this is not possible.

If it was,  I could have just taken my money back,  and none of this would have been an issue.


What is this then?

Quote
secret_phrase='Neurobion'

Sincere question, I've never used bitchain.

This is a secret phrase that can be used to help blockchain verify your identity in case of a lost wallet identifier or yubikey or other 2nd factor authentification reset request.   It in no way grants access to the account funds in any way.  

Basically it is used so Blockchain can verify that they are communicating with the actual account owner.
288  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:16:05 PM
Roger, can you please cool down, blank your first post, and seek a better outcome than a flamewar?

I don't want the next news article about Bitcoin to be entitled "In the lawless Bitcoin world, business owners seek revenge by publishing customer information"


Done.
289  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:15:31 PM
Wait, wait, wait. So Roger Ver has access to see users wallet passwords in plaintext? So he can theoretically log in to any account on Blockchain.info and send himself whatever he wants? Blaming it on "hackers"? Is that what is happening here?

NO,  this is not possible.

If it was,  I could have just taken my money back,  and none of this would have been an issue.
290  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:13:58 PM
So I guess passphrase information in blockchain.info is not hashed?

No passphrase information was leaked or is even available.

If I knew his passphrase,  I could have logged into his account,  and taken my money back.

This is not possible by design with blockchain.
291  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
It brings into question things like are the anonymous addresses actually anonymous? If the owners get raided for whatever reason will they just turn on all their users? I agree he owes you, but it is not worth it.

I think it was not clarified:  the address the extra bitcoins were sent to are not an anonymous address that is part of Blockchain's mixer,  it was just a normal address in his blockchain wallet.
292  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:02:47 PM
Quote
I would also like to see the whole thread removed
No way. Everyone should see how Roger is destroying his business for few bucks.

it's not just going to hurt his business, it will also hurt blockchain.info, and Bitcoin. please remove the thread ASAP

No sensitive information from Blockchain was posted by anyone other than the blockchain account owner.
293  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
Quote
I would also like to see the whole thread removed
No way. Everyone should see how Roger is destroying his business for few bucks.

Do you deny that he owes me the money?
294  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
The point is, blockchain is a site you back which supports anonymity. By posting his info and declaring yourself part owner you were simultaneously pointing out that you have access to records that can track people, and showing that you can access them at any time for someone requesting them such as the authorities. Nethead wont do the right thing, he has 9 posts assuming its not just a puppet, just scam tag him and move on, dont wreck your reputation for 50 dollars.

All the information I posted here came from Bitcoinstore.
None of it came from Blockchain.info (until after the scammer posted it himself)
295  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
This is pittyful to watch, the entire thread should be removed.

+1

I would also like to see the whole thread removed as soon as Nethead does the right thing by sending the money back.

296  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
I would also like to make it clear that I didn't make any of his Blockchain account info public.
I emailed him his own information.

He then posted it on this forum himself. (Not me)

And what about the threat about your family? Wasnt that MY blockchain SECRET key?

I didn't tell anyone that it was your blockchain secret,  I simply said that you sent me a threat.
297  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:42:53 PM
I would also like to make it clear that I didn't make any of his Blockchain account info public.
I emailed him his own information.

He then posted it on this forum himself. (Not me)
298  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:39:15 PM

Nikoloas,

As part owner, I have admin access to Blockchain.info,  so depending on the notification settings you have for your wallet there, I can look up accounts based on a Bitcoin address.  %100 for sure that bitcoin address is owned and controlled by you,  and you received the funds from me.

Now do the right thing and send them back:

4.5119 BTC to 18yDbzddGVEr1Vyp4NXrP6mqAmUTesAg9a

Once you do that,  I will delete the rest of your information from this public thread and we can both put this behind us.

I caught you %100 red handed lying about this.

For those who are interested,  here is the full support ticket history.  Read it from the bottom to top:


Roger TODAY 08:23 PM
Should I consider this a threat that should be turned over to the authorities?

"FuckingTheDeadBodyOfRogersMom"

I'm still waiting for your lawyer's contact information.

Roger


Roger TODAY 07:37 PM
When can I have your lawyer's contact details?
As promised, I have made this public for the world to know exactly what you have done:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131574.0

With the best intentions, (unlike you)

Roger Ver


Roger TODAY 06:48 PM
I will gladly contact your lawyer about this.
Please provide his contact details.

Thank you,

Roger Ver


Nethead TODAY 06:40 PM
You are on block list, you will only speak with my lawyer for what you have done so far. Everything is logged. Subject closed


Nethead TODAY 06:26 PM
Your mail does not prove anything, anyone can mail to anyone from any domain you want. Expose me? Do it.
You have failed my friend because you shouldnt touch that information, BlockChain TOS does not say so as of today. I know i didnt touch your bitcoins. ITS your fault that you added the address i gave you on the payment system, not mine. So if you say that you are a co-owner and you still say its a permanent address then i do not have anything else to say. Do whatever you want, but be careful where you put my information, thats a little hint.

Have a nice day man i hope you get your bitcoins. Smiley
As of now im out of this game


Roger TODAY 06:16 PM
To prove to you my ownership stake in blockchain.info, I just sent you an email from my roger@blockchain.info email address.

Do the right thing and send me back my money.

Roger


Nethead TODAY 06:02 PM
I know the name "Roger", but EVEN if you OWN (which you do not) you SHOULDNT toutch ANY personal info. Both bitcoinstore AND blockchain (which YOU involved) are in trouble. I dont get it "my last chance"? "to make my life easier"? Explain

As i said i do not have OR had any of your money. I really hope i didnt ever came to your failstore.


Roger TODAY 05:56 PM
Nethead, I own 25% of blockchain.info
I also own 15% of Bitinstant.com
%100 of Bitcoinstore.com
%100 or Memorydealers.com
I also own a % of coinlab.com, ripple.com ogrr.com and I am the largest single donor to bitcoinfoundation.org

I'm Roger Ver, the post prolific Bitcoin investor the world has ever seen:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/24/coinlab-attracts-500000-in-venture-capital-for-bitcoin-projects/

Stop trying to steal from me, I caught you %100.

This is your final chance to do the right thing and send my money back.

18yDbzddGVEr1Vyp4NXrP6mqAmUTesAg9a (4.5119 BTC)

Do it now, and both our lives will be easier, and you will be a better person for it.

With the very best intentions,

Roger Ver


Nethead TODAY 05:44 PM
I said what is true, you are not part-owner on blockchain, i do not have or ever had your money, annddd i said what is going to happen

Have a nice day sir, except if you have anything else to add


Roger TODAY 05:42 PM
Nikolaos,

I didn't get into any of your mail logs or your server.
I'm part owner of Blockchain.info so I can see all the addresses in your wallet, and I caught you red handed in your lie.

You have my money, and you need to send it right now to 18yDbzddGVEr1Vyp4NXrP6mqAmUTesAg9a (4.5119 BTC)

Stop lying, stop wasting both of our time, and send me back my money.

Thank you,

Roger Ver


Nethead TODAY 05:38 PM
You are going to get fined, blockchain will be involved in this. What you sent IS personal information, does not prove anything else than you are trying to threaten me, you shouldnt have that, and everything is against you.

Once again, i do not have your money, but you definitely deserved that, if i had them i would return them, i would return your fault back.

Your fine WILL exceed 10000 BTC if you want to talk in bitcoins.

Now do you have anything else to add?


Nethead TODAY 04:49 PM
Dude now you are in terrible trouble for getting to my mail (logs on MY server) AND stealling my wallet (also logged), before i sent this i have spoken to my lawyer and got all your information from your website. Also printscreened YOU sending MY information. This was not a permanent address, so you know you are in trouble.

Wait call from my lawyer

All that info is logged


Roger TODAY 04:36 PM
Nikolaos,

I looked up your address with Blockchain, and %100 for sure the funds were sent to a Bitcoin address that you control.

Here is the proof of the link to your account corresponding with Bitcoin address: 1H4UR5M72Ybpo4zrqWe8JKKYSeN1gxqBcU

[Wallet {email='nethead@spore.gr'
, guid='46f2b149-45c1-309c-98e0-af31be28175f'
, shared_key='2ea287bc-abf8-71b1-8e45-276ac034b854'
, secret_phrase='Neurobion'
, alias='nhman'
, created=Sat Dec 08 17:46:45 GMT 2012
, updated=Wed Dec 19 01:43:47 GMT 2012
, created_ip='188.95.51.84'
, updated_ip='79.107.123.47'
, sms_number='+44 7583383202'
, country='USD'}

You need to send back my 4.5119 BTC to:
18yDbzddGVEr1Vyp4NXrP6mqAmUTesAg9a

right away.

I'm sorry Zlatko made the mistake in refunding you too much money to begin with.
Thank you for doing the right thing and returning the money,

Roger Ver


Roger TODAY 02:44 PM
Nikolaos,

What anonymous receiving address service were you using?

Thank you,

Roger


Zlatko Bijelic TODAY 02:19 PM
Thank you for responding to the email.
Hopefully they use them wisely Smiley

--
Zlatko
Support Manager
www.bitcoinstore.com
www.twitter.com/bitcoinstore.com


Nethead TODAY 12:03 PM
WOW thats kinda sad, for both of us because it was an anonymous receiving address from my online wallet. Should I give my permanent address to forward payments to??? It would be great!!

I didnt receive anything, someone else got lucky today, but let me remind you thats its your fault in the first place that you didnt want to sent me what i bought. Im not lying here, that is my real name here and im from my real ip address.


Zlatko Bijelic TODAY 11:46 AM
Nikolaos,

I hope that you are doing well.

You may have noticed that you received about 4.50932664 BTC coins today (2012-12-19 01:35:38) - this was due to a mistake on our end by giving the customer an incorrect Bitcoin Address for payment. I would like to ask if you can send us those Bitcoins?

Thank you in advance, I hope that you have a great day!

--
Zlatko
Support Manager
www.bitcoinstore.com
www.twitter.com/bitcoinstore.com


Nethead YESTERDAY 11:24 AM
i confirm that. remove my account from your site, thanks


Roger YESTERDAY 11:22 AM
Your refund has been sent:
http://blockchain.info/address/1H4UR5M72Ybpo4zrqWe8JKKYSeN1gxqBcU

Thank you,
Roger


Roger YESTERDAY 11:08 AM
We are waiting to hear back from the payment processor.
Your refund will be sent as soon as possible.

Thank you,

Roger


Zlatko Bijelic YESTERDAY 11:08 AM
Nikolaos,

We have submitted your refund to our Payment processor, I will update you as soon as we receive the information from their end. I apologize for the delay.

Thank you you for your cooperation.

--
Zlatko
Support Manager
www.bitcoinstore.com
www.twitter.com/bitcoinstore.com


Nethead YESTERDAY 11:02 AM
ok now you are not even responding


Nethead YESTERDAY 10:52 AM
What is taking so long???


Nethead YESTERDAY 10:24 AM
Process it now that im awake. I paid when your site said so, i didnt reply "soon". And no im not thinking of future purchases, sadly my first one was not accepted, so keep it like that....


Zlatko Bijelic (assign) YESTERDAY 10:18 AM
Nikolaos,

We will go ahead and process your refund shortly. I apologize that it did not work out this time around, but keep us in mind for your future purchases if they make sense for you.

Have a great rest of your night and Happy Holidays!

--
Zlatko
Support Manager
www.bitcoinstore.com
www.twitter.com/bitcoinstore.com


Nethead YESTERDAY 10:12 AM
Name: Nikolaos Magiafas
E-mail: nethead@spore.gr
Telephone:

Comment: Thats great you offer refund, so im waiting for it. Im not willing to pay customs an additional half of its price.Return ALL the btc in this address 1H4UR5M72Ybpo4zrqWe8JKKYSeN1gxqBcU or the original i first sent them
299  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
Your comment about getting in touch with the greek police makes you look like a manchild who is out of touch with reality,

Maybe you missed the part where he implied killing my mother.
300  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoinstore.com has encountered our first scammer. on: December 19, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
i spammed the newbie section a little so i can post here. leave me some time to make my post explaining PLEASE.
My point of view has to be heard. I am totaly not a scammer.

As i write it i kindly request all my info gets removed now. You decide later if you have to post it or if its legal to do so.

If you agree to refund my money if that is what the community thinks you should do, I will gladly remove all your information now.

I'm also happy to talk about it on the phone if you don't hang up on me again.
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