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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.4 on: October 22, 2014, 08:35:37 AM

Hi guys, my name is Bobby and I'm the co-founder of CoinGecko. I'm proud to announce that we have added Burst to CoinGecko. We have more information on Burst here:

Thank you for the support! If you have any feedback, feel free to PM me or write a post on our thread.


thanks bobster !
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 04:05:54 PM
uray, your miner reads plots by 4kB chunks. Maybe better enlarge that size? Even clustersizes are upto 64kB.



And what about single read-thread per path?

yeah its possible, but currently i am busy working on wallet

hy uray,

which features are you implementing on wallet???
if it is possible to know!!!

 Wink Wink Wink Wink




i am integrating java miner & plotter into wallet, and convert it to desktop app

This looks amazing. Keep up the good work

yes its great, can't wait to test it Smiley

Uray, its Wulfcastle here, designer of the current Wallet UI & Burst Logo/OP Graphics.

I dumped all of my BURST around a month back, mainly due to the supply being diluted with around ~3.7 Million BURST per day, but now it has reached the point where BURST has enough infrastructure, largely thanks to you, to make a big push to compete with the big names in the crypto-space. Everything is virtually set in place, all BURST needs now is an easier to use client and miner (which is what your desktop application will accomplish) and the right marketing and promotion, which I can provide.

If you have a test version ready of your desktop app for Windows that I can try out, I will come back to BURST and begin designing and promoting BURST once again.





uray, this offer still stands. If you can send me a test version of this client, that I can assess, I will come back to BURST and begin designing/promoting once again.

wallet is alive at https://burstcoin.io , and source code is on my github , its still work in progress, and probably will be released after dev finished with wallet 1.3.0, what we need to design or customize on theme is currently our reddit, but i don't know who the admin is
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 03:42:34 PM
First at all, sorry for my English, I would try to explain one of the possible solutions to extend BURST to people, because I think than if more people use and mine BURST the future of the coin would be better.

I´m sure that there are millions of computers with a lot (hundreds of Gb) of free HDD space, but they know nothing about BUSRT and the way they can make some money with no extra cost.

If we can make easy to take into production those free Gb and we make a limited campaign for the people to know about it, they will become BURST fans for sure.

Nowadays starting mining it´s very complex, even with the burst.today system. A newbie has to (1) create a account, (2) ask for funds, (3) reassign the reward, (4) plot the files and finally (5) start to mine.

I propose the creation of a webpage to simplify the first three points needed to start mining. This website would have a repository of BURST addresses (previously created, initialized and assigned) would be allocated to people who sign up on it.

With this address and a GUI program that allows them to decide how many free space (perhaps in 1 or 10Gb files), want to use to mine, they can easily start to generate plots and mine with them using a pool in the same webpage used to generate the address.

I kwon that it takes a lot of problems for a pool to have thousands of user, but is we use a different protocol between the pool and the miner (including height and deadline on it), it´s possible to check the submitted nonce in a asynchronous way, allowing much more nonces submissions with no delay.

I´m sure that everything I comment here is not really difficult to be done, and I´m starting in making some changes in Uray´s miner and pool sources, but I´ve been for more than ten years without programming and it become hard to me.

If you like my ideas, I hope so either, I´ve no problem in trying to explain them in depth.


what do you mean by "check the submitted nonce in a asynchronous way" ?

i believe nonce submission is already asynchronous in server side, and also client can add height and deadline during nonce submission, but pool still need to re-check if the submitted nonce is actually result to the deadline as client said.

I mean that you can recieve the nonce submision and append it to a file with all the nonces recieved, sending as a response just that you recieve it not the deadline you calculate. In the background you check the smalest deadline nonce (not checked) you have recieved, and could later check all of them. In this way, the miners recieve the answer of they submitted nonces quickly (I got, sometimes, more of 20 seconds in my responses), because you don´t have to make any complex calculation prior to respond them. After the first seconds, when miners throw most of the submision, you can quietly check the rest of the submisions. (At the end you make less checkings because you only check the smallest of every miner)

if you want to do that, you better use persistent connection not http request, as current http connection protocol is not "keep-alive" so when you submit nonce, you need to create tcp connection, and disconnect the connection after you received the response.

an example of persistent connection is like stratum protocol on most PoW coin, when you start mining, you "subscribe" to pool, if there are new block, pool will inform you, what client need to do is just submit nonce and pool will inform the deadline later without need to wait for it

but we still dont have standard mining protocol here, and new miner need to be developed for stratum like protocol
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
should we join this : http://downloads.xc-official.com/images/14-10-15%20Blocknet%20presentation.pdf

Blocknet using xnode protocol
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 08:46:08 AM
First at all, sorry for my English, I would try to explain one of the possible solutions to extend BURST to people, because I think than if more people use and mine BURST the future of the coin would be better.

I´m sure that there are millions of computers with a lot (hundreds of Gb) of free HDD space, but they know nothing about BUSRT and the way they can make some money with no extra cost.

If we can make easy to take into production those free Gb and we make a limited campaign for the people to know about it, they will become BURST fans for sure.

Nowadays starting mining it´s very complex, even with the burst.today system. A newbie has to (1) create a account, (2) ask for funds, (3) reassign the reward, (4) plot the files and finally (5) start to mine.

I propose the creation of a webpage to simplify the first three points needed to start mining. This website would have a repository of BURST addresses (previously created, initialized and assigned) would be allocated to people who sign up on it.

With this address and a GUI program that allows them to decide how many free space (perhaps in 1 or 10Gb files), want to use to mine, they can easily start to generate plots and mine with them using a pool in the same webpage used to generate the address.

I kwon that it takes a lot of problems for a pool to have thousands of user, but is we use a different protocol between the pool and the miner (including height and deadline on it), it´s possible to check the submitted nonce in a asynchronous way, allowing much more nonces submissions with no delay.

I´m sure that everything I comment here is not really difficult to be done, and I´m starting in making some changes in Uray´s miner and pool sources, but I´ve been for more than ten years without programming and it become hard to me.

If you like my ideas, I hope so either, I´ve no problem in trying to explain them in depth.


what do you mean by "check the submitted nonce in a asynchronous way" ?

i believe nonce submission is already asynchronous in server side, and also client can add height and deadline during nonce submission, but pool still need to re-check if the submitted nonce is actually result to the deadline as client said.
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 08:34:03 AM
something wrong with Uray US pool. Deadline becomes very high.

I think Uray change the pool now its becomes unstable.

is it better now? made some improvement

It was fine after a while when i reported the issue but now it's back again. See the pool site right now , most miner over 1000 years

ok, it should be fixed now

U can see the pool urself. http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io

Still over 1000 years. In fact , its over 10,000 years.

Also, u might want to consider shutting down pool 3 since it has less than 100 miner. Ur profit will be better if there were only 2 pool.

Its back to normal now.

I wonder if your pool profit will increase if your only have 1 pool with good specs.

If u combine all pool into 1 , u can attract more miner than having 3 pool because most miner (like myself) like to join big pool due to stable payout. U should have about 500++ miners if u combine them , making it the biggest burst pool.

It is also easier for u to maintain 1 pool instead of 3

i provides 3 pools because each of them has different characteristics :

US Pool : for regular stable payout, but a bit slow in performance due to more miners
SG Pool : almost like solo mining, for miner that own very large capacity, high payout but more variance
EU Pool : for miners who want performance & reliability due to deadline limit

as for profitability, most of them are due to burst price factor, i still have faith in burst value, so lets wait and see

the error you mentioned was not performance issue, its just bug that when new round is triggered, old nonce submission was not cleared in the queue, so the remaining nonces in the queue are checked against new block, hence the large deadline. but it seems to be fixed, i don't see any large deadline so far.
and the performance is quite good, i don't see single nonce submission failed on US and EU Pool, but i still see nonce submission failed on EU, but it could be miner using old miner client (java)

and please note that, if your miners say failed to submit nonce, its because the client does not receive reply from pool for specific timeout period, but the nonce is actually received by pool and added to the share, but when pool want to reply the deadline to client, the connection already closed
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 07:35:45 AM
something wrong with Uray US pool. Deadline becomes very high.

I think Uray change the pool now its becomes unstable.

is it better now? made some improvement

It was fine after a while when i reported the issue but now it's back again. See the pool site right now , most miner over 1000 years

ok, it should be fixed now
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 06:26:22 AM
something wrong with Uray US pool. Deadline becomes very high.

I think Uray change the pool now its becomes unstable.

is it better now? made some improvement
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 01:40:27 AM
My wallet is in sync. It just happens when I try to stop the wallet. killing the process did not work (ubuntu 14), so i had to restart :/

have you try kill -9 ?
or just kill the java itself
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 01:13:26 AM
I just had a strange problem with the 1.1.3 wallet. I was not able to exit the process, it got stuck at:

Code:
2014-10-16 15:07:43 INFO: Shutting down...
2014-10-16 15:07:43 INFO: nxt.dumpPeersVersion not defined

and cpu load was 100%

anyone?

you just need to force terminate the application, the re-run it, or to be safe from db corruption, resync the blockchain by deleting burst_db folder
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 12:26:30 AM
I hoped for an easy to use GUI.
iam starring at folders with no clue what to do.not remotely.

Now after skipping through all the threads,i still cant get a cmd line together.
Would somebody please give me a cmd line with x y variables ?

Page 29 in the ANN thread was a frustrating read through.i barely got that you use ur HDD to mine Cheesy (shame on me)
Help much appreciated already

we have our own forum, and specific mining section here https://burstforum.com/index.php?forums/mining-support.5/
you should find easier to find out there, and also you can ask on the forum too
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 17, 2014, 12:25:15 AM
What is the point of Burst if the hard drive space of the network can't be utilized? I see no mention of any development in regards to actually utilizing the storage space on the network for file storage etc.. on your website or forums.

Why not? It seems like this is the most obvious use for Burstcoin, and without being able to use the HD space then this is pretty much a clone coin with a different consensus algorithm.

Don't get me wrong.. it's cool, but not very useful and therefore not likely to be very valuable.



more or less I quite agree with you, its cool, but does not give economic & utilization advantage other than green mining
low cost mining is double edge sword, if mining is less costly the price of coin would go down too
and yeah further development for file storage is planned too, actually its ongoing development since dev already tell us the overview of how it should work
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Burstcoin PR Discussion Thread on: October 17, 2014, 12:18:48 AM
Hi guys,

Really nice ideas. I was working for a few years as android dev, so i'll try to create simple app for burst - with limited functionality on beta like:
- account stats,
- notifications for new transactions and mined blocks,
- transaction explorer,
- price charts.

I'll inform you when I have the beta version. That's what i can do for community Smiley

great, let us know if you need some help
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Burstcoin PR Discussion Thread on: October 16, 2014, 03:52:36 PM
specialized burst asset is nice too, we can make burst asset exchange as a gateway to non-crypto assets or corporate shares, like AAPL, INTL, AMD, or hard drive manufacturer

Sound good, maybe start with HDD companies.

or specialized storage controller or software that auto fill the disk free space with burst plot, and this plot will be automatically reduced when there is need to store data, user does not need to take care to delete files to free up space for burst plot, the software will intelligently fill the free space with plot, and delete the plot when user need to store his data.

we can propose this to NAS manufacturer, as a slogan "NAS that pay itself"

Or maybe "Free space that pays"....The software idea would be good, just got to get someone work on it....

The dev needs someone to help him do this: File storage(disclaimer: still figuring out a good way to do this. this will take a while.) . That would definitely make Burst more attractive.

or we should invite or pay the inventor of torrent to work on burst, it will make the hype in the media and also accelerate the distributed file storage and its p2p file-sharing protocol
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Burstcoin PR Discussion Thread on: October 16, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
specialized burst asset is nice too, we can make burst asset exchange as a gateway to non-crypto assets or corporate shares, like AAPL, INTL, AMD, or hard drive manufacturer

Sound good, maybe start with HDD companies.

or specialized storage controller or software that auto fill the disk free space with burst plot, and this plot will be automatically reduced when there is need to store data, user does not need to take care to delete files to free up space for burst plot, the software will intelligently fill the free space with plot, and delete the plot when user need to store his data.

we can propose this to NAS manufacturer, as a slogan "NAS that pay itself"
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Burstcoin PR Discussion Thread on: October 16, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
specialized burst asset is nice too, we can make burst asset exchange as a gateway to non-crypto assets or corporate shares, like AAPL, INTL, AMD, or hard drive manufacturer
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [POOL] burst-pool.cryptoport.io [ No-Deadline Limit ] [ Instant Payout ] on: October 16, 2014, 03:06:09 PM
java miner no longer work ? I keep getting unable to get mining info from wallet. I cleared my cache and my ping is correct

it still work, maybe you are seeing this while pool is still down
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 16, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
Unfortunatly 1mio. Burst are just 1.1 BTC, so either we need more than 1mio. or we need a really good/stupid/crazy or innovative idea to promote burst.
It has to be something that will be recognized by the media.

Don´t we have a professional PR dude between our rows? I mean come on we are 1000 or something like that Cheesy
We should invest in isis or ebola, pretty popular these days *dadum tsss*


can we move discussion here

http://www.reddit.com/r/burstcoin/comments/2jf4jh/any_ideas_how_to_promote_burst/

so the post will not buried by mining related posts, and also to fill up some post on reddit
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 16, 2014, 02:20:55 PM
Very good idea, maybe we could start something like a poll to find a/some promoter/s and offer them a contribution in burstcoins.
A platform like reddit is necessary, without a dedicated community, something like that isn´t going to happen.

But on the other hand, watch Doge, much community such promotion and decreasing in value just like burst, wow.

Exactly....Most of the guys on burstforum are very dedicated and hope they are welling to back up this idea...


I will donate 100,000 BURST to a LEGIT promoter who actually does good work.

I will also help in any way that I can.

I will donate 100,000 BURST  too then
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New version 1.1.3 on: October 16, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
Isn´t the worst idea i heard till yet Cheesy

So it would be interesting how much of the Burst owners are willing to push burstcoin forward.
Are there any statistics about how much people own burstcoins?

I mean if 50% of the owners spend 1000 bursts on a promotion campaign, it could be enough to do something cool with
it and in return they will have a higher burst value.

Sounds good, but in reality hard to make it work.

there are ~4200 active accounts, ~1100 miners ( http://explorer.burstcoin.io/stat ) , assuming each user have 4 burst account, all our users are miners LOL !
if we have 1 million burst for promotion campaign how are we going to do with this funds?
but it would be better if promotion campaign is in btc, so we don't need to sell burst (which will drop the price) for any promotion cost
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