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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this how it start? (No or yes?) on: October 31, 2023, 11:00:06 PM
No, it can't be considered as gambling addiction, you just enjoyed playing. Well, its good that after two consecutive losses you've stopped, which's a good indicator that you still have self control. You maybe have some money still. It not too big and you it controlled yourself. As you said, you are not a regular gambler, which is fine and normal as you are not used to the game you're playing, so it's okay you can earn what you've lost, just don't follow other lose bets. Take it easy. if not bad to sometimes play randomly even if you are not familiar with the game, and you just do it to past time. I often do that. If I'm bored, I bet on sports betting even though I'm not familiar with the game or with the players, so even if I lose the money, I will not be hurt as it is just a small portion of my money.
1182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the last 5 years compare to now on: October 31, 2023, 10:25:59 PM
Well, it's nice to see how Bitcoin has changed in the last 5 years.back in 2017 Bitcoin was around $4000,  and there a lot of speculation if it will be a good ideal of investment.  With the pass years we have seen the up and down with price of Bitcoin nearly $69,000 @ November 2021, the price today of Bitcoin is around $21,000, which is a big huge change from the past few years. Bitcoin have a positive  value, it can also used as and asset.  In the past five years has been a huge growth, however institution that held Bitcoin and investment on it like Tesla , having a amount of Bitcoin on their account. This has brought a huge profit. The way Bitcoin is been used by large and small companies and organizations. Do you think this will continue in the coming years?
Today's price is $34k, not $21k, I wish it was still so cheap so I could buy more, unfortunately it is not. Anyway I really don't see why bitcoin shouldn't keep getting better and better, at this point is clear that the major governments are not going to ban it, more businesses accept bitcoin, more people know what they are, I mean, everything looks pretty great.

. You still have a chance. Well, maybe it is too late to buy bitcoin right now because it may drop at a certain price and you will lose your investment. Instead of buying, why not trade in that way you could still earn from bitcoin. You could take advantage of its volatility. I also regret not buying a lot of bitcoin in the past. That's why I'm catching up in the form of looking for a way to earn through bitcoin. The government can completely ban the bitcoin because they can't stop people from investing in it. There are tools to be used if, for instance, they will implement the banning of bitcoin. And if the governement will ban the bitcoin it only shows that they are afraid of the threat on how powerful bitcoin is, which is true if bitcoin still there in a few years bitcoin will be used widely.
1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Answer this Question on Credits Left on a Slot Machine by Someone Else on: October 31, 2023, 03:01:11 PM
I will not "steal" it, moreover it's a land based casino where every people can watch you and report it to the casino's staff, will you choose to risk your life for only get $10-$50?

Don't be too greedy, it's like playing stupid game, win stupid prize. You only need to work for a week to earn such amount or even more.
I don’t think this as an illegal especially if the previous player choses to leave in purpose and maybe they are just letting other players to gamble with that little money. Though don’t expect to see big amount being left by the gamblers because its very rare not unless the previous player hits the jackpot and just want to share some blessings. If you are uncomfortable with this then you can just ignore that money and look for other slot machines.
But still, as having a courtesy to the previous player, you should leave that amount or credit be left in the machine. Also see first why the player leaves a credit on the machine, maybe because the machine itself is unlucky. Honlylylylylyly I have a belief that never go to a machine where it frequently give losses to the players, thats like ritual to me and belief. Also, the player maybe just left for a while and we never know when he/she will be back. It is not illegal, yes, but you will still have a shame of taking the machine of a previous player for a credit. But I admit I also do that, I left some credits if I feel I'm lucky or if I win in that machine, then I would leave some credit to pass the luck, just sharing the lucm that I have, Its not bad to help to the others.
1184  Economy / Economics / Re: Cracking the Code of Saving Money... on: October 31, 2023, 11:48:19 AM
I saw this tip on how to save money on social media. It says that if you receive your salary before anything else or before distributing your expenses and such, the first thing you will do is allocate an amount to your savings, and after that, you can distribute it to other things, such as bills or other things you will spend. or you can spend quite an amount in investment, of course, with sure profit, like trading. That's what I do; the profit I earn from trading will go straight to my savings; if not, then in another section of my budget. In short, you can't save much from your salary, so find another side hustle that will add up a profit and also add up your savings. Don't settle for less; keep on striving and finding a way to have a better life and bigger savings. That's what I learned.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: October 31, 2023, 10:48:37 AM
Yes, at some point, I'm sure almost everyone who does gambling also experienced being addicted to gambling. Well, being addicted to gambling is a common problem for those who gamble. There are many reasons for that: getting immersed in the game, having too much enjoyment in the gambling, or, the most common, chasing the losses, which could lead to a much worse situation. I became addicted to gambling mainly because I frequently won and my hope kept growing to earn a huge amount of money, which didn't go well. I experienced a great loss, but instead I got awake and started to distance myself from gambling, and later on I started to gamble again, but with discipline because I didn't want to experience what I had experienced in the past. I still overspend my capital, but not too much. After that, I will rest for a certain period of time before doing gambling again.
1186  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Reward for a Trading Mentor on: October 31, 2023, 09:56:47 AM
Yes, having a mentor is a good decision for you. You are open to something like that, and you are willing to hire a mentor. In terms of mentors, you can also consider copy trading on a legitimate copy trading app while you are still learning, or you could enrol in a trading class that would be a good option, or if you don't want to pay, then there's YouTube, where you can watch or read blogs in order to gather enough knowledge and skills to efficiently trade and earn. In terms of reward, you can give a percentage of your profit for every trade you and your mentor make. In that way, you will have a fixed amount of reward, and it will also prevent conflict between you and your mentor. But of course, be careful. It's better to hire a mentor who's close to you, like a friend, colleague, or family member.
1187  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 16k DOLLARS LOSS IN JUST 1 YEAR on: October 31, 2023, 08:11:41 AM
You've made many mistakes. First, you trade without enough knowledge. I get it. You don't have someone to teach you or an expert trader to teach you. So what you should do is work hard to gather a lot of knowledge and experience in trading, but you choose the shortcut, which is to keep trading even without the right amount of necessary tools. Second, you keep on trading even if you notice you are keeping on losing, which is an indicator that you chase your losses, which is pretty bad. Third, the amount of money you trade is huge, which is too risky. Remember, too much risk equals a huge reward, just as too much risk can result in a big loss. You also don't focus on one coin only, which you should do so that you will become familiar with the coin and own it. and also buying in a late trade, meaning you ingage in a trade where the profit potential is past, which is not a good move for a trader. I hope you've learned your lesson, but you've learned it in a hard way.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Flip or Trade? What’s The Bigger Gamble? on: October 31, 2023, 03:26:50 AM
Yes you are right that mate gambling and trading are not the same in all aspects cause trading is you can earn money  and Also its matter on knowledge while in gambling as we all know that the only thing they need to do in order to win in gambling is  they will pray that The brought thier luck, cause in the world of gambling luck is the only way to win a good amount cause when the gambler don't have his/her luck then they can't win.
It's not only a matter of luck. If you are a trader then you nedd to make some researches and use your trading skills to make a decision on whether to buy an asset or to sell it because you expect its price is going to rise or fall. But when gambling, you just chose either up or down and rely purely on luck.
The above doesn't mean much, what really matters is that when you gamble you are supposed to be having fun regardless of whether you win or lose but when you trade you are expecting to make some profit.

Gambling doesn't mean always having fun; it's proven that gambling only produces stress and misery. Many gamblers at first treat gambling as entertainment, but in the long run, the fun fades, as when they keep on losing, it will take a toll on them and eventually chase their losses. As we know, humans can't afford to lose money just for fun, and it will result in the worst situation or scenario. So I don't believe in gambling as fun or entertainment. I agree that trading and gambling should not be compared, as trading is a more practical way to earn money than just hoping to be lucky in gambling. Trading is a more efficient and practical way, as you just need to invest in your knowledge and patience for trading, which can be rewarded as much as the traders want because they put battle before clinging to their luck. In short, trading is skill- and knowledge-based, while gambling is luck. It also has some skill as you play games that require strategy, but still, luck is more prominent in gambling.
1189  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My experience as a beginner trader on: October 30, 2023, 11:55:37 PM
Actually true story90% of people fail in training I am talking about many experienced people I know who have done very well in trading in past days but still they fail because trading is not new and ancient here Any human can fail so you need to gain experience and be patient before playing here now if you come to trading with small capital and if fail Then it is natural that you will not have the courage to do anything later So think newbies should invest in Bitcoin with spread knowledge without going into trading and wait diligently and go to work.

Yes I agree, because beginners tend to lose money at first because they skip a lot of prcess such as training and such, there are demo acoounts in every trading platform but they choose to trade in a live acoounts you which resulted to lose of capital and lead them to quit. Good traders start as a beginner and experienced lose even they have years of experience in trading, thars right we never know what will happen in the market so lossing a trdae is a common, its will depends on how will the trader cope up. Anyway trading journey is not an easy thing, Its good that the op has a good mindset and optimistic side which will be useful for him to cope up whenever he faced lose trade. I personally cant consider myself a professional trader as I still experiencing lose trade which is the fault of the market.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you keep a record of winnings and losses in gambling? on: October 30, 2023, 11:04:54 PM
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New gamblers tend to be filled with curiosity about how the gambling system works, so they continue to make deposits to continue gambling with the aim of getting big profits from gambling. Meanwhile, for those who have been gambling for a long time, they already know how the gambling system works, so even without a record it can make them more careful in gambling and continue to try to control themselves when gambling. and they also tend to gamble just to fulfill their desire to gamble because they already "choose and place" part of their enjoyment in gambling.
I don't know what the use of notes is in gambling, in fact I'm not sure they need to learn anything when they are againt the system. I'm not really interested in learning how to beat the system, it's obviously pointless especially in luck based games like slots, dice or some others. Usually notes are not made to prevent many losses, but they seem to want to learn something that they believe could be the main weapon to beat the system.

In my opinion, gamblers keep records of wins/losses for very different reasons. Someone to understand how much money loses in the casino for a certain period of time, someone to calculate the real RTP of a particular gambling game, someone keeps a record of all their income/expenses, so the activity in gambling is also included in these records.   

And that's good practice, because keeping a record of track of your expenses is a good way of knowing how much your money has grown or lost, I personally keep a record of everything I do, especially in gambling, because I should know if my capital produces a profit or not. In that way, I will be a responsible gambler, not just gamblers who bet and doesn't have a concern on their money. I also keep track or record of my trading in bitcoin or any other coin and also in my investments, let's say, in all the things I do with relation to money. I think many think that it's a waste of time or they say that you should not have a thing that will remind you of your losses. No, you should have, so you know if you are a responsible gambler and know if you should continue or quit gambling.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: October 30, 2023, 10:38:39 PM


Later he open up to have been using $500 for gambling per day, he said all these started when his wife left him, that he isn't into gambling at all, but I can't ask why his wife left him in the first place, but does loneliness make people become addicted to gambling or it's something else.

There's the answer, the reason why your friend left by his wife is because of gambling, it means before he become lonely he is already addicted to gambling and imagine the money he is wasting in gambling surely his wife will leave him, how can you not think that? Maybe because the lifestyle of both of them is affected because of your friend's addiction which is a red flag. Your friend is to blame and ghis addiction. What's make your friend lonely is because of maybe uncontrollable gambling which is addiction. Yes loneliness could lead to gambling addiction but in your friends case what make him lonely is because of his wife leaving him and that happening is happened because of his excessive gambling, his the one to blame, you his friend should help him to stop his addiction and fix the situation about his wife if you are a true friend you will do that
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: October 30, 2023, 09:47:25 PM
Well for me there is no specific or age limit to gambling, it comes from you that even the elderly enjoy gambling because it seems to be the only way to get rid of their boredom. Yes, there is still another way to get rid of boredom, but if you are a gambler and you can still gamble even when you are old, you will still do it.

I see from my grandfathers and uncles that they always gambled even when they were in their 60-70s. They are the ones who are playing and they are fighting each other, I can see that they are enjoying it a lot, it's like they're bonding, it's like they're just kids, it's fun to watch.

Yes, I agree elder person who gambles are the one's that genuinely do that for fun and entertainment unlike young ages who gamble hunger for money and eventually didn't do well. Older age tend to gamble the money they only have like from pension and such, its okay for them whether they lose or win, same as you I have grandpa in the past that does gambling for his own satisfaction, that's why I learned about gambling games from my grandpa as he teach me bow to play more like a grandpa and grandson bonding, even without money at stake we play just for fun. So I think gambling is for every age as long as they want, gambling doesn't always have a money at stake, you cab enjoy it solely because of the bond and memory you will create while playing, i think that the beatiful side of gambling.
1193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto or Real estate on: October 30, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
Cryptocurrency:
Which one do you prefer?
Both are good investments. The only issue with them is that one has a higher entry rate than the other. You require a lot of money to acquire a piece of real estate. They are all the fees that are attached to real estate after its acquisition however with bitcoin not just any cryptocurrency anyone can purchase the smallest amount of Bitcoin and keep investing in each through the dollar cost strategy. Which is why we have more persons between the ages of 35 to 18 years with bitcoin than any other age group.

I agree, investing in real state requires a of requirements and process, so it will also require a huge capital to do so, and nowadays the price of real state is very high and could cost more in maintaining it, unlike crypto you will only need to spend effort and patience to learn how to navigate and know how to effectively earn from it, and I think its more practical to invest in bitcoin as it is digital and will require not too much capital and as op said crypto is not being controlled by anyone so it will depends on how will you and how much will earn from it. And bitcoin will be more powerful in the future so its better to ride on it as early as possible, and there are a lot of ways to earn in crypto it will depends on what field will you familiar.
1194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advice to friend for financial improvement. on: October 30, 2023, 11:01:36 AM
I've noticed a topic in the Bitcoin discussion. I was encouraged by reading the Topic, I wondered if anyone would benefit financially from me. Instead of buying an iPhone, if one invests in Bitcoin, his future will be bright.  Now if someone invests in Bitcoin with the same amount of money.........
The price of the iPhone 15 is $799 and the iPhone Plus and iPhone Pro Max price is higher than $799. If my friend wants to buy the iPhone I will strongly refuse it and give suggestions to invest it in Bitcoin. The first thing I will tell him about the benefits and the purpose of Bitcoin how it was invested and for what purpose it was invested and telling him the uses which take place nowadays after telling him these things I will also make him aware of the risk involved in the Bitcoin because he might be the thing that it is a quick rich. Scheme. If he invests all the $799 or some part of this amount he will buy an iPhone with the invested money but before investing, I will first teach him how to make an investment, which strategy is useful for him when to enter and leave and also telling about the coming bull if he would understand the Bitcoin easily then I will make myself proud because through me a person can meet what he deserves if he passes and start working consistently. I also recommend you give more information about Bitcoin to him so his. knowledge will be more vast and the chance. of. losing ground or error will be minimal.



That completely depends on each person. In my case, my friend is a content creator and photographer, he just bought an iPhone 15 pro max 1T. In your opinion, should I advise him not to buy an iPhone and invest that money in bitcoin? Meanwhile he will use it for his work and maybe make many other iPhones in 1 month of work. We need to know what their purpose is when buying a phone and give them appropriate advice. Bitcoin is not the only investment that generates profits, there are many professions and jobs that generate better profits.

I second with you about that, bitcoin investment is not for all, maybe you are open minded to it and knowledgeable to it but don't expect that you can influence all your friends about investing in bitcoin, also buying the stuff they want is depends on them maybe they just want it to reward their selves or they need that stuffs, I get it the op is a future oriented he only thinks practical and invest in bitcoin than buying stuff, which is also good because investing in bitcoin will get you more than what you want. Again bitcoin investment is not for all, lets say they invest in bitcoin, how can you be so sure that they will earn in a specific date and time? We never know because we can't accurately predict the movement in the market also, investing in bitcoin requires funds, its not just you want invest and just hope you will earn that's not how bitcoin investment works.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: October 30, 2023, 08:26:55 AM
Well, the image shows that your friend takes the risk. We can't say that it is greedy, as shown he is that your friend bet a huge amount of money and if it was really his bet, then he earned a lot of profit, which is a good thing. As they say big risk means big profit, he takes the risk maybe because he's so sure about his bet. I'm sure your friend is not dumped to go into a bet where he will be in a bad situation. If so, then that's what we call greedy or, let's say, an irresponsible gambler. Imagine betting that huge amount of money on a bet. You are not sure if it will be on your side. That's too much risk. I'm like your friend if I'm sure about the bet I will too take the risk because why not, if I'm really sure about the odds then take it.
1196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if there was only one cryptocurrency, which is Bitcoin? on: October 30, 2023, 06:56:35 AM
I can't really say it would be worse than this. Obviously, it is important to have options, and its great that people have their options, that is not a bad thing and I support that. However, we need to realize that just bitcoin alone itself would have gotten a lot more money as well, people wouldn't invest into silly stuff and all that money would go to bitcoin. Lets assume that bitcoin gets 1 trillion, and all other coins get another trillion, that's 2 trillion total, even if the rest would only invest 500 billion, that would still be %50 more to bitcoin alone. That is why it would have made bitcoin a lot stronger as well and I would be a lot more glad to invest into it without trouble.

I agree, bitcoin itself will be enough, in fact, if bitcoin is only the existing crypto currency its price will be more higher, it will rock sky. Why? Simple, supply and demand, if there are only limited bitcoin due to many investors buying it, and it takes time to mine a bitcoin, then its demand will be higher and higher, resulting in huge profit potential. But, of course, we can't control others as technology will be easily copied, and there are altcoins. Still, it's better, as you said, to have other options so that people will have a variety of coins to play with to earn. But that downside is there are also coins that emerge, coins we call shitcoin which is a dangerous coin mainly used for scamming which is alarming, because as many people still new to crypto they tend to skip learnings and knowledge and tens to invest in those untrusted coin, which is shitcoins.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: October 30, 2023, 04:09:10 AM
I was just thinking exactly this while reading replies when I came upon your post . How underage kids still, likely using a fake identification, purchase and consume alcohol despite the age restrictions placed on the purchase and consumption of alcohol.
Having age limits is fine and a good step in keeping underage kids from indulging in adult activities but how well is the enforcement of such rules? There are underage kids who gamble as well as other adult activities as kids would always look for an avenue to do what they want.

We all have a part to play in enforcement of such rules and should deter such behavior whenever possible. Parents should be more aware of any change in their children’s behaviors and actions and nip in the bud, any potentially harmful behavior.
This is why I said kids have to do their part too, the enforcement of the rules will never be perfect, in fact this cannot ever be the case, just look at all the major crimes that are committed, is every single one of those cases solved? Not really, in a perfect world this will be the case but we are not living in such a world, and if that happens with such important crimes then it is to be expected that lesser crimes and offenses have an even lower resolution rate.

Nowadays, we notice that young people are the subject in most crime cases of rape, killing or gambling, because even you said that children or young should take their part too it, in reality they were not its because they still need a guidance from whom? Of course, guidance from their parents. I know always parents are not to blame always always for their children being in gambling or crimes, but notice a large percentage of young age being associated with gambling or in crimes are the children's that doesn't get enough attention and guidance from their parents, also the poverty are to one also to blame, that's why many young age will find a way to earn money in result to their exposure to gambling. You see, without proper guidance, children will be on the wrong path. So, even if the online casinos set up a minimum age, the age will still find a way to access it because the rules are easy to bypass online.
1198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a “safe haven asset” on: October 29, 2023, 11:52:20 PM
I slightly disagree about the statement, I both trade bitcoin or crypto and gold or forex, and for me both have pros and cons, bitcoin is long term investment while forex or gold is short term there are periods where you can trade gold, or session what they call. While in bitcoin there are not specific date or time where we can trade and earned a lot. So for me both still the safe haven, it depends on people who trades and for me they are both a valuable asset which gives me a lot of profit potential. And I know many also trade in both forex and crypto and I'm sure they also both love crypto and forex, as crypto for long term with a huge potential profit, and forex which a short term and also can offer a huge profit, it will depends on skillful you will trade.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How safe do you feel with casinos that ask you to input your log detail. on: October 29, 2023, 10:19:01 PM
I think its normal to put your login credentials frequently in the website, if you dot want that then save password so that you will never put your passwrodd in it so many times, but that is more risky you know, if you dont trust the website then stop using it, I get it you are just concern on your security but I know before you registered in the website casino there is an agreement section that you need to check, if you a responsible gambler who concerns your security then you should read that before signing in, because the moment you check it and created an account then you agree to input your personal details, if you really want to stay away unnecessary website then use a VPN it will protect your browsing in internet, but of course see first if the website casino will allow the use of VPN.
1200  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You are also like them? on: October 29, 2023, 08:46:13 AM
I know right, they're comedians and later with their videos there's always the sales pitch from their own courses on sale.
That's the funny part, I don't understand these people that are learning from them as they say but it becomes their another source of income aside from trading. If they legitimate make money, they just make themselves prosper through trading. Don't get by their justification about they just want to teach other people make money too.

You got it, point to point, they basically do those videos just to attract investors, to invite them into their group chat like telegram or such, some is legitimate and you will surely receive either signals or they are the ones that will handle your trading account. But it is also the way scammers do, because many people easy shined to the words their hear and earning they see from those eye catching videos scattered in every social media platforms. I once believe that scheme but I come from my senses and just learn on my own, becauss its better to trade based on your own analysis and chart mapping than following videos or other people that you don't know of its true or guaranteed legitimate. But I still follow some I proved that they offer legitimate and accurate signals, because of course there are still few peoples or traders in youtube or in other platform that concerns and want to help other traders especially beginners.
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