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[JayJuanGee]

First ever burned merit. Odd

Today at 07:52:35 PM: 1 to fluidjax for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Sorry, thanks for the merit but I deleted the post. The thread feels unpleasant when I get trolled but am taking the conversation seriously.

The more seriously you take the conversation, the more likely you are going to get trolled.

Even otherwise genuine posters might take a poke at you, if you attach too much sentiment to your posts/ideas.  You can still present serious ideas without getting emotionally attached to stupid-ass responses that others might make to distort or distract.... and you should already realize that it is the job (mission) of the troll/shill to cause distortion and distraction.

[JayJuanGee]

I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx

Don't you know nuttin?


Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.   

[TERA2]

[Last of the V8s]

I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx

Don't you know nuttin?
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.   

Jay, fuck yourself with some style.
Oh wait, you already did. So. Many. Times.

[JayJuanGee]

Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

Get the fuck out of here with that "nice" talk.  

*cough* fag *cough*

Bitcoin headed to $1000, tons of altcoins are going to disappear up their own ass and the next set of altcoins (bitcoin included) will depend on what exchange emerge strong.

Since really every person was talking about Bitcoin during the last Bullrun, I think there is too much weight on it in order to have the crazy and relentless growth we saw the last time.

My guess: And established modern Altcoin could overtake Bitcoin easily with the next crypto bull run.

You must be like the thousandth person to say that

something original could be better

Wasn't this the same point about the last run too?  We had the flippening, the cashening, the rippling, the dashening.. and perhaps some other pump and dump lame shitcoin bitcoin is dead prognostications.

They are actually (whatever you want to call them) deep state funded central banker intelligence backed cia attacks

Could be some of that going on, but surely not completely.

Started back with the very first ddos attack on this forum

Likely before my time.  I doubt that all ddos attacks on bitcoin related matters are either government or bank funded.

Then the hacks

The altcoin war

Big block debate

Forked coins bcash

and Gavin Andreesssseeenn and his cronies on here behind it all

only a few bad actors
etc etc etc


The question will always remain and very important in any argument


Why is bitcoin being attacked?

I will give it to you that there is motive, and likely some inferential evidence of government and financial institutional funding, but I doubt the evidence is either direct or conclusive.  That is why we usually would not want to live our lives as if everything is a conspiracy theory, but continue to take such information and possibilities into account for marginal case contributions or otherwise contributing to some of the direction (at times).

[Gab0]

I've been reading anonymint's writings for the past week or so, which also prompted me to dive into some other rabbit holes.

I'm more convinced now of the dangers of segwit. Don't mistake that for being a promotion of bcash.

Could you provide me with a link where I can read about that? I remember anonymint's post, but I did not pay enough attention and now I can not find it.

Geeze, guys. We've been discussing these very same aspects of segwit since years. Have you had your fingers in your ears and blinders on up 'til now?

You're right. This has been discussed for a long time. In fact, I myself asked similar lake in the forum before segwit activation; and Lauda gave me an answer that at that moment left me quite satisfied (I leave the quote below).

I asked Infofront for the sayings of anonymint's to see if I could find some new information or another point of view regarding the same problem.

And he just does not stop. Neither Jonald nor the scam artist "Dr. Craig Wright" can be trusted with anything they say.

SegWit introduces a fundamental change to bitcoin: the “AnyOneCanSpend address”, or essentially a blank signature for transactions. SegWit uses an “AnyOneCanSpend” address so that transactions will be validated and recorded into blocks, even though the sender/receiver signature data is separated. Normally, an “AnyOneCanSpend” output (as its name implies) would allow any miner to spend the funds associated with that transaction; therefore, SegWit would introduce new rules for interpreting “AnyOneCanSpend”. This means that miners could not take advantage of that output address to inappropriately spend the funds associated with all SegWit transactions.

No. AnyoneCanSpend is not a new concept and is certainly not a fundamental change. AnyoneCanSpend does not mean literally anyone can spend¹. It's a script without conditions attached to they way the related output can be spent. This whole article has been debunked months before it came into existence.
[1] - https://seebitcoin.com/2017/02/segwit-facts-not-anyone-can-spend-so-stop-saying-they-can/
[2] - Wiki Entry from ages ago: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script#Anyone-Can-Spend_Outputs

Thanks!

[RoomBot]

That is obscene~!

Very offensive.

 

WTF, BTC?  Freaking $5890

[xhomerx10]

[snowdropfore]

ok, bitcoin is dead. let us come back 3 year later

[RoomBot]

Oof. This really is looking quite grim.

Who is Debbie Downer now?



 

[JayJuanGee]

Give me enough money and I have no care for your bitcoin blockchain
I will own all the nodes
"Referencing Rothschild on the banking system and government"

You can own all of the nodes if you want but that wont help you to attack the network. The moment you begin doing nefarious things users will open channels with someone who is not doing nefarious things and the network will very quickly self heal from your attack.

Whats to attack
I have just turned the blockchain into a central bank, all transactions run through my nodes
cheap or expensive

Rofl what no. Havn't you been paying attention? It's a permissionless system. If you make it expensive people will use someone elses node. You understand that there isn't some limited number of slots to fill up where you get life time ownership of that slot right? You don't seem like you understand at all how the technology works. You remind me of a commenter from zerohedge not bitcointalk.

 I like how your responses are exactly like mainstream media and omit certain truths

I like how your response sounds like it could have been written by a computer algorithm.

I had been getting the feeling that there was something "off" about the posts of mymenace, and perhaps the bot explanation is currently amongst the most plausible... thanks for identifying that possibility, anon.

[mymenace]

Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

Get the fuck out of here with that "nice" talk.  

*cough* fag *cough*

Bitcoin headed to $1000, tons of altcoins are going to disappear up their own ass and the next set of altcoins (bitcoin included) will depend on what exchange emerge strong.

Since really every person was talking about Bitcoin during the last Bullrun, I think there is too much weight on it in order to have the crazy and relentless growth we saw the last time.

My guess: And established modern Altcoin could overtake Bitcoin easily with the next crypto bull run.

You must be like the thousandth person to say that

something original could be better

Wasn't this the same point about the last run too?  We had the flippening, the cashening, the rippling, the dashening.. and perhaps some other pump and dump lame shitcoin bitcoin is dead prognostications.

They are actually (whatever you want to call them) deep state funded central banker intelligence backed cia attacks

Could be some of that going on, but surely not completely.

Started back with the very first ddos attack on this forum

Likely before my time.  I doubt that all ddos attacks on bitcoin related matters are either government or bank funded.

Then the hacks
The altcoin war
Big block debate
Forked coins bcash
and Gavin Andreesssseeenn and his cronies on here behind it all
only a  few bad actors
etc etc etc

The question will always remain and very important in any argument

Why is bitcoin being attacked?

I will give it to you that there is motive, and likely some inferential evidence of government and financial institutional funding, but I doubt the evidence is either direct or conclusive.  That is why we usually would not want to live our lives as if everything is a conspiracy theory, but continue to take such information and possibilities into account for marginal case contributions or otherwise contributing to some of the direction (at times).

evidence is conclusive, you can argue that all you want

I am only here to tell it how it is
people can make their own conclusions

Remember it all starts at Gavin Andreeeesseeesn and his cronies.





How many associated with CIA, Intelligence, Bad media and government funding



https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html


yeah Craig tell them how you assisted the CIA to try and destroy a decentralized money system

because meh the attacks

[JayJuanGee]

Do you guys think Bitcoin will rebound? Or is it a true bubble pop?

It's never going to recover.  That is the thing about "true bubbles", as you just mentioned.

Probably, this is about the best price you will ever get for your bitcoins, but if you are patient, you may be able to get $6,500 for the next bull trap...

In other words, doom, doom, doom.   

[JayJuanGee]

The miners and wealthy elites know what's coming (or what may come), so they're storing their coins in legacy addresses. So, only the plebs like us will be screwed, and no one will give a shit.

Signature:
I do not accept segwit outputs as payment, nor send them.

Some of us will be ok.

Who is going to wear that "theoretical" signature?

moi. I've been wearing that for a good while.

You too.. siding with the segwit skeptics?

Perhaps I misread you?

I thought that you were somewhat impervious to the bitcoin naysayer FUD?

[Torque]

Do you guys think Bitcoin will rebound? Or is it a true bubble pop?

[JayJuanGee]

I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx

Don't you know nuttin?
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.  

Jay, fuck yourself with some style.
Oh wait, you already did. So. Many. Times.

Another one bites the dust...



Capitulation is seeming closer, no?

Are there any bulls that are still posting in the WO thread today besides me?

Perhaps, tentatively, we got bitserve, micgoosen, rayx12, torque, cAPSLOCK, fluidjax, RoomBot, Jimbo, and ________?

Of course there are some other bulls who have just been silent in the past few days, but that would not necessarily change their bull status, right? 

[undeadbitcoiner]

November 11 we had same price as of today's, Exactly 1 month later we saw ATH so Bitcoin to fly back from today's level is not impossible. While I am saying its not impossible at the same time I am accepting that Bitcoin could go as low as $5K in the worst scenario $4700

Edit:The lower we go the higher Next ATH will be.

[El duderino_]

I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx

Don't you know nuttin?
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.  

Jay, fuck yourself with some style.
Oh wait, you already did. So. Many. Times.

Another one bites the dust...



Capitulation is seeming closer, no?

Are there any bulls that are still posting in the WO thread today besides me?

Perhaps, tentatively, we got bitserve, micgoosen, rayx12, torque, cAPSLOCK, fluidjax, RoomBot, Jimbo, and ________?

Of course there are some other bulls who have just been silent in the past few days, but that would not necessarily change their bull status, right? 

this man had a belgum VS england match with afterward a poker/evening-night session to play and with good luck to win some cheap HOT BTC's

so me is very happy .............    

[mymenace]

I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx

Don't you know nuttin?
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.  

Jay, fuck yourself with some style.
Oh wait, you already did. So. Many. Times.

Another one bites the dust...



Capitulation is seeming closer, no?

Are there any bulls that are still posting in the WO thread today besides me?

Perhaps, tentatively, we got bitserve, micgoosen, rayx12, torque, cAPSLOCK, fluidjax, RoomBot, Jimbo, and ________?

Of course there are some other bulls who have just been silent in the past few days, but that would not necessarily change their bull status, right? 

this man had a belgum VS england match with afterward a poker/evening-night session to play and with good luck to win some cheap HOT BTC's

so me is very happy .............    

permabull

i keep selling my bitcoin cheap, very cheap just to live

 

[xhomerx10]

I'm going to bed.