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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.2%)
H1 2020 - 30 (19.1%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.8%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.7%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.5%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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June 29, 2018, 02:59:01 PM

All shitcoins are slowly bleeding back into Bitcoin on every dip.   Cry

Deal wid it.   Kiss

Man, Segwich gonna steal all yer coins. Do the smart thing, switch to FlappyCoin. I'm doing it. (Actually I did it first. So technically, you would be buying them from me1.)

1. But still.
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June 29, 2018, 03:01:31 PM

This is the wall observer thread you fuckface gtfo and start your own thread.

I did. And you all dragged me over here by starting a discussion about what I was writing in the other thread.

As I said, the author of the OP of this thread, started the segway. And there was a diversion of the thread talking about it.

You’re just pissed off because the facts make you look as stupid as you are.

Nobody dragged you. You didn't get the interest you wanted in your own shitty thread so you came here to spread FUD because this is the best and the most viewed thread of bitcointalk.

Ok we now know your name along with the fucking roach. Now you can fuck off.
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You’re just pissed off because the facts make you look as stupid as you are. You fell flat on your face for the Core scam.

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June 29, 2018, 03:07:42 PM

All shitcoins are slowly bleeding back into Bitcoin on every dip.   Cry

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IMO btc maximalism is bad for crypto...

Isn't steemit the most used blockchain in existence?

According to Tone Vays, smart contracts shouldn't even exist, would you agree?
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I'm not saying I'm concerned, but



just do the right thing here, ok?
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June 29, 2018, 03:13:18 PM

All shitcoins are slowly bleeding back into Bitcoin on every dip.   Cry

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IMO btc maximalism is bad for crypto...

Isn't steemit the most used blockchain in existence?

According to Tone Vays, smart contracts shouldn't even exist, would you agree?


Tone Vays is right but at this point it doesn't matter. They will exist anyway and many people get scammed because of that. This whole concept (ICO's and shit) will become a massive clusterfuck. (if not already)

Tone Vays also says most altcoins are scams and guess what? He is right again yet altcoins keep coming.
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June 29, 2018, 03:16:22 PM

All shitcoins are slowly bleeding back into Bitcoin on every dip.   Cry

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IMO btc maximalism is bad for crypto...

Isn't steemit the most used blockchain in existence?

According to Tone Vays, smart contracts shouldn't even exist, would you agree?


BTC Dominance has increased from 33% to 43% since Jan, the last peak was at 45% - will be interesting to see if its passes or not, I'll buy a bit of alt stock at 44% just in case

Personally, I'm happy with the 35%-45% range

The recent trend has been for dominance to reduce as BTC price increases, a couple of years ago the opposite tended to happen
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Does newbie mean second account in this case, I gave merit because it seemed the wrong label for a well structured post

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and I don't care at all if my small change stuff is more or less decentralised.
I agree it shouldnt be a big deal but also some will say well the standard is failing if it cant all be decentralised.    I would prefer the really small change stuff is done via flexible exchange rates to tiny alt coins.   If it works, great for them and they can handle the transaction cost and processing integrity and if not the exchange rate falling vs Bitcoin will minimise any losses spreading.
    But I worry about centralised processing of Bitcoin within this main blockchain could somehow develop into a negative distortion of value even if its tiny bits I see them as the most genuine commerce to come from the smallest movements of value and by the most diverse population.  

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i do have some segwit coins, those are the "spending" coins i use for buying stuff like pm and newegg etc. satoshi coins are for long term hodl.

Seems sensible and I would like if all coins were more often distributed between users.   I'm sure thats most of where BTC price strength should come from, monetary velocity between users with varied interests, many nationalities but a commonly traded currency.  



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By 2024, it will be closer to $500k/BTC break even.
So great efficiency improvements are a requirement if that is the case



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BTC Dominance has increased from 33% to 43% since Jan
I'm afraid I must insist.



(also silver nazis pedo stuff too)
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Ok we now know your name along with the fucking roach.

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All shitcoins are slowly bleeding back into Bitcoin on every dip.   Cry

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IMO btc maximalism is bad for crypto...

Isn't steemit the most used blockchain in existence?

According to Tone Vays, smart contracts shouldn't even exist, would you agree?


Tone Vays is right but at this point it doesn't matter. They will exist anyway and many people get scammed because of that. This whole concept (ICO's and shit) will become a massive clusterfuck. (if not already)

Tone Vays also says most altcoins are scams and guess what? He is right again yet altcoins keep coming.

Well many people have already been scammed by worse things than ICOs (bitconnect) for example.

But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

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June 29, 2018, 03:28:15 PM

60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

Yep exactly this.

Just have some common sense and you'll be fine.
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But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.

1. Create crypto

2. Pre-mine 100 million coins

3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.

4. Boom, $100M market cap.
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June 29, 2018, 03:29:56 PM




Reading many BUY the DIP...... but who actually is increasing there stack's
i know i did for sure  Grin

So tomorrow i will drink a lebowski white russian to celebrate my  latest nice size BTC-increasing stash  Grin

join the train stay bullish keep thinking long term
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June 29, 2018, 03:34:01 PM

Isn't it amazing? THE CME June futures contract settles and we seem to get a little bit of a respite from the dumping. When exactly was it announced that the CME and CBOE was a go? I'm trying to figure out what price these MFs got their BTC to dump. Or are they just shorting it on the various exchanges with fiat as collateral? Or is this price movement just coincidence? Is there really any correlation here?
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a respite from the dumping

I don't remember this happening. When did this happen?1

1. Did this happen?
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June 29, 2018, 03:37:45 PM

But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.

1. Create crypto

2. Pre-mine 100 million coins

3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.

4. Boom, $100M market cap.

You could probably get passed step 1 considering you are code savy enough, I am not a developer but I imagine it's a lot easier to create a crypto than I think.

But if you just pre-mine a bunch of coins how would you ever get support from anyone or get listed? Who would support you're chain? You would have to be the only one mining it so it would cost a heck of a lot more than 1$.

I just think altcoins don't get enough credit, I wonder how many crypto enthusiast were brought in being exposed to a an altcoin first rather than bitcoin ?
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June 29, 2018, 03:47:30 PM

But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.

1. Create crypto

2. Pre-mine 100 million coins

3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.

4. Boom, $100M market cap.

You could probably get passed step 1 considering you are code savy enough, I am not a developer but I imagine it's a lot easier to create a crypto than I think.

But if you just pre-mine a bunch of coins how would you ever get support from anyone or get listed? Who would support you're chain? You would have to be the only one mining it so it would cost a heck of a lot more than 1$.

I just think altcoins don't get enough credit, I wonder how many crypto enthusiast were brought in being exposed to a an altcoin first rather than bitcoin ?

What if the exchanges were the creators of these new alt-coins? Have you ever considered that possibility?  Cool
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June 29, 2018, 03:47:44 PM

What if BTC reach 5k$ and stays like that for, idk, 15 years?
No whales bs, no trades speculation, no any no-sense

Could we start spend it like if it was a decentralized cryptocurrencies?

Is this a possible world?

I doubt it’s possible the price could stay at $5,000 for 15 years. Miners wouldn’t be able to turn a profit even after the next halving at $5,000. 15 years will see 4 block reward halvings (including the one in 2020).

Most miners would have to turn off their machines & stop business in 2024 at a rate of $5,000 per bitcoin.

What a bunch of BS. Break even for an S9 mine right now is around $5000/BTC. There is more to mining than electricity! By 2024, it will be closer to $500k/BTC break even.

Meh, Bitmain and friends probably have 10nm or 7nm chip ASICs populating their farms. I wouldn't be surprised if they also have farms set up in Venezuela to take advantage of the cheap electricity there. This is merely speculative though. It is also possible that Bitmain doesn't have the more efficient ASICS working yet and that this bear market will kill them. Wishful thinking on my part though, I am sure.
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June 29, 2018, 03:50:13 PM

But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.

1. Create crypto

2. Pre-mine 100 million coins

3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.

4. Boom, $100M market cap.

You could probably get passed step 1 considering you are code savy enough, I am not a developer but I imagine it's a lot easier to create a crypto than I think.

But if you just pre-mine a bunch of coins how would you ever get support from anyone or get listed? Who would support you're chain? You would have to be the only one mining it so it would cost a heck of a lot more than 1$.

I just think altcoins don't get enough credit, I wonder how many crypto enthusiast were brought in being exposed to a an altcoin first rather than bitcoin ?

obviously this project would also require a awesome white paper and a fancy website with a moving background.
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