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221  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many BTC needed for retirement in 10 years? on: March 25, 2023, 03:47:43 AM
I don't really rely on bitcoins for my retirement because we never know what will happen to bitcoins in the future, all I do is try to keep collecting bitcoins as long as possible.
and if the future or the next 10 years bitcoin will be very expensive that's very good, and even though the future prospects of bitcoin will be bright but we have to think otherwise.
so the intent and purpose is only to collect as many bitcoins as possible for business capital, buying property or other things that can make money or add value and do it in stages when I get big profits from bitcoin. But that doesn't mean I don't continue to invest, as long as bitcoin is profitable I will continue to do it with other business goals.

Yes, it is not advisable to rely on a volatile and risky asset like bitcoin for retirement. Bitcoin is only suitable as an investment for us to increase our wealth. When making a lot of money from bitcoin investment, we should diversify into safer assets like gold, and real estate for retirement. Don't just focus on bitcoin, it's too risky.
222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is an asset. on: March 25, 2023, 03:42:30 AM
Bitcoin is not an asset, if you state that the I advice you to read the whitepaper and see what Bitcoin was created for. Many people use Bitcoin as an asset because they are greedy and selfish. Those people will never help Bitcoin in any way, since a currency relies on being widely used.

So what are you investing in bitcoin for? Don't try to be magnanimous to speak ill of others when you yourself are discussing the bitcoin price every day. It is true that bitcoin was created as a peer-to-peer payment method, but it is a multi-tool and more. Everyone has different purposes, as long as they use bitcoin and benefit them, then bitcoin is already a great thing.
223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin loan for students in higher institution. on: March 25, 2023, 03:36:30 AM
Good day guys; I said  let me know if the forum have a board where students are being support in education by giving them student loan To help them in education, so many members here I believe are students in various higher institutions so many of them fine it difficult to pay school fee's or pay rented apartment,buy textbooks and hand outs or even feed very well or access to student loan boad,please I want to know if there is any room for students in this forum in universities to access student Ioan, i said let me drop it here because I have not seeing education board.
Not trying to be rude but if you want to ask money in here with loan then the chance of you getting one is incredibly low, because you need collaterals to do it and most of the people here are really skeptical with newbies trying to get loan as their first post in this forum. Have you actually asked for loan in your local bank or something? Pretty sure they have some sort of plan for students loan especially with your problem.

What he said also made me doubt his intentions, it was more like exploitation and fraud than the intention to borrow money to use for learning. Everyone knows that to get a loan, we need to collateralize their property or reputation. While he's new, nothing, and he's making that offer, it's nothing more than bad intentions.

OP, Bitcoin is an investment, not a charity, and if you want to borrow money, you should go to your country's bank.
224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which kind of situation will force you to sell? on: March 25, 2023, 03:30:26 AM
Which kind of situation will force you to sell?

Is family or health challenge enough reason to?

If I am in a situation where just selling my bitcoin could be the only solution, then I will feel tempted to sell too, but first I will see if I could get a fiat loan and use the bitcoin as collateral.


Family is important, such as in terms of health, so I say yes.
Well said, we live for the family and for that we need to spare anything we have. In all our hard times our family used to be with us. When something had happened and they were not in a situation to handle it, then it is our sole responsibility to help them someway. In such situation if I don't have the fund and the only available thing is my bitcoin holding I'll sell and find a solution for it.
family are the people we love, it seems we can't even live without them, so I mean putting our feelings above the material things we have. if selling bitcoins is the only way, then without hesitation I will sell it, in order to save the lives of my family, than if the worst thing happens and we end up regretting it it's useless. and afterwards we can still work hard to return the assets we sell

Bitcoin is not divine, and it couldn't be more important than our loved ones. To me, bitcoin is like any other asset, sold and used when needed and easily bought back when money is available. It is nothing compared to the love of family or human life. Many people are valuing bitcoin more than their loved ones, bitcoin is not made to divide people or make people more evil.
225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $1M Bitcoin Valuation until the end of this Bull Run on: March 25, 2023, 03:20:28 AM
Some people can get overexcited and can be pushing some impossible ideas...however we should not be complaining if in case around 3 months we can see BTC dramatically rise up to $1 million. The only way for this to happen if we can the collapse of the whole USA economy and not just banking which can mean that hyperinflation is suffered by the millions of people. In other words, we need a staggering disaster to happen to make that $1M a big reality. In my own view, predictions like this is not actually helping the cause of Bitcoin...we are just becoming the source of jokes.
There is no other way for bitcoin to reach that price so fast, since it is impossible the demand could explode to such degree without a major economic event destroying the faith of the people on the ability of the governments to control the economy.

And while some may want to see that scenario I wonder if they actually realize how damaging this could be, as even if the price of bitcoin went that high it will do so by creating worldwide turmoil, and it would not surprise me if extreme social movements, drastic economic reforms and even wars took place during that period of time and the subsequent years.

Those who are thinking that are stupid because if that happens, we will lose more than we gain from investing in bitcoin. If bitcoin is really good, then let people come and use it rather than pray for the bank to go bust for bitcoin to benefit. This is no different than the dirty competition the government is doing with bitcoin, they try to stop it, while we pray for them to collapse. After all, the government and we are equally evil.
226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: March 20, 2023, 04:23:11 PM
Most likely Real Madrid can win the game against Chelsea, but I doubt Real Madrid can win the game against Bayern or Man City in the next round.
After Real Madrid's performance against Barcelona yesterday, I saw some supporters of Chelsea who insisted that if that was the current form that Real Madrid is, where they were struggling to score goals, that they were going to win them. The game Real Madrid played was in the Spanish league, and the not the champions league. Real Madrid play differently in the champions league regardless of their form in the La Liga, Chelsea do not need to think that Real Madrid will be an equal challenge to them. Both teams are not having a good time in their domestic league.
I started to doubt Real Madrid's consistency too because they are not too good when it comes scoring of goals this days, that is why Barcelona beat them in all competitions this season. But when it comes to Champions League, Real Madrid is something entirely different because they knows how to play Champions League better than any team, moreover Chelsea are not yet stable interns of performance, so they have less chances of winning g compared to Real Madrid.

Real Madrid is a very strong team in the Champions League. And they have played well in every Champions League match. It seems that the first priority of the Madrid management is the Champions League. And then they will focus on winning the La Liga title. Beating Real Madrid in the Champions League will not be easy. They played well in both matches against Liverpool. It is expected that they will start preparing for the match against Bayern Munich.
227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 20, 2023, 04:19:12 PM
Even though PSG dominated possession, they were surprised by Rennes at the end of the first half. PSG didn't feel confident until the second half had to concede again for the second goal, this defeat actually embarrassed PSG at home because the visiting team was unexpectedly able to excel in this match.  Cheesy
Of course such a defeat is shocking especially because PSG are playing at home. Rennes managed to take advantage of their opportunities well where 2 of the 3 good opportunities were goals. Meanwhile, PSG, which actually managed to take 7 shots on target, failed to score a single goal. Steve Mandanda was really good in the match, he made 7 saves out of 7 PSG chances during the match.
I think Rennes is not too weak for PSG because they are a top Ligue 1 team that should be considered. This season Rennes are struggling to qualify for the Europa League if Monaco fail to maintain their position in the standings. Monaco's advantage is only about 3 points from Rennes, this is still very likely to be expected.
Genesio really implemented the right strategy to suppress the domination of PSG. can't believe PSG wasn't able to score at home even with enough chances created.
although the result did not affect PSG's standings, losing 0-2 was enough of a blow for them. no wonder they should be eliminated from the last 16 of the Champions League. a team like Munich is still too strong for PSG. with so many good players in the team, PSG is still lacking in their squad.

I think beating PSG 2-0 is a big achievement for a team like Rennes. PSG has two of the best players in the world Messi and Mbappe in the attack. Rennes' defenders were able to successfully block these two players. Rennes' defense was very solid in this match. And their match strategy was also excellent. However, this match made it clear that PSG has a lot of weaknesses within their squad. And coach Galtier completely failed to stabilize the team.
228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: March 20, 2023, 04:04:32 PM
Manchester United is much more prepared for this, I don't understand what problems Sevilla is faced this season, their performance continues to decline unlike the previous season
In the 2021-22 Europa League season Sevilla had to stop in the round of 16, this season they manage to qualify for the quarter-finals but unfortunately Sevilla have to meet a team that is in its best performance, Manchester United
MU vs Sevilla is the big match of UEL this season, even MU is not at its best, I think MU will maximize the chance to win in this competition. Sevilla has become the king of UEL in the last few seasons with several titles, this is a tough challenge for MU to be able to beat Sevilla. If in the 1st leg match MU can win, this will make it easier for MU to advance to the next round. But if they lose, the second leg will make MU position even more difficult.

I don't think this match will be competitive. My guess is that Manchester United will win this match one-sidedly. Sevilla's team performance is not good this season. Their offensive performance is very poor. However, their defensive is a bit tough as the team plays defensive tactics. We saw Manchester United's performance against Barcelona. They played very well. On the other hand, Sevilla's performance is very weak. I don't see any chance of Manchester United losing against Sevilla.
229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: March 20, 2023, 03:52:10 PM
Batting first in today's second ODI match of Ireland tour, Bangladesh set a target of 349 runs in 50 overs.  Bangladesh batsman Mushfiqur Rahim gave a great performance in batting.  Mushfiqur Rahim scored 100 runs off 60 balls.  And Nazmul Hossain scored 73 runs off 77 balls. All the batsmen of Bangladesh scored very good runs. However, Shakib Al Hasan scored very few runs in today's match. If Shakib Al Hasan performs badly in bowling now, it will be difficult for the fans of Bangladesh to accept it.
Bangladesh vs Ireland
    The match of these two teams is now temporarily suspended. Due to the rain, the start of the match is delayed. If it had not rained today, maybe the Bangladeshi players would have played well in this match because they have done very well in the batting line, now if they did a little better in the bowling line, the Bangladeshi players would have had a big chance to win. But this match may take some more time to start. It seems that today's match is scheduled to be played in 50 overs but Some overs may be omitted
Yes, some time ago it was officially announced that the 2nd ODI match between Bangladesh and Ireland was abandoned due to rain. Due to rain today's match was not played in 2nd inning. I expected Bangladesh team to win today but the game was abandoned. If Ireland players could have performed well in bowling today.  Maybe Bangladesh could not have scored so many runs. I think the runs that Bangladesh have scored are too many.

This is bad news for Bangladesh. Because like the first match, the Bangladesh team would win this match for sure. The Bangladesh team's batting impressed me today. Mushfiqur in particular played brilliantly. We are used to seeing Mushfiq batting at 70-80 strike rate. But Mushfiqur was unbeaten today scoring 100 runs off just 60 balls. Also Liton, Shanto and Hridoy all played very well. The Bangladesh team has made unprecedented improvements in their batting line-up.
230  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there anything like Bitcoin savings? on: March 20, 2023, 03:42:22 AM
Is possible to open a personal savings account in the bank and always send money to that account and when you are ready to collect the money, bank will give it to you, my question is, is it possible to also creat a Bitcoin wallet and always send Bitcoin to it as a savings?

OP, just to add, after reading your thread again, I came to realize something. If you save in a bank, your money will remain the same until you are ready to withdraw it (inflation can also take it cost), but if you invest in Bitcoin, you may receive the same amount of bitcoin you purchased, but the value may differ due to price volatility. Either the value has increased significantly or it will decrease. So, if you tend to save in Bitcoin with the intention of using the money next year or in a specific period of time, please keep in mind that the Bitcoin price is always unpredictable and may be down or up when you want to use the money.

If you want to make an investment in Bitcoin, feel free, but if you want to save money for a set goal, you can save in the bank unless you want to invest a certain amount that you don't want to touch for a long time into Bitcoin. Just my Opinion.

Mr.Strange 👺
Bitcoin investment and savings are completely different, many people need to distinguish, don't be confused. The savings can be used for emergencies or whenever we need them. But investing in bitcoin is not always profitable, can cause loss, and will harm us if used at the wrong time. Bitcoin cannot be considered as savings because it is too volatile, it is a volatile investment.
231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 19, 2023, 06:34:56 PM
~snip~
The best result I hope for is a Barcelona win, while the possible result is a draw. I hope that El Clasico is still low on goals, maybe only with 1-3 goals for a 1-0 or 2-1 win for Barcelona. But let's look forward to it, I hope it's a very tense match and one of the best El Clasico of the season.
The game at the Bernabeu, it is likely that Real Madrid will find it difficult to win. In the first semi-final of the Copa Del Rey they lost 0–1 at the Bernabeu. My hope of a draw is good enough. But if Madrid manage to win it's a surprise. At least a victory will open up the chance of the La Liga championship is still there.
In the UCL match I saw that Real Madrid struggled to score goals. The 1-0 win was actually beyond my prediction, they should have made more than that. Barcelona's opponent will be an interesting match even though it is not as interesting as when there are Ronaldo and Messi.

The game is actually at Camp Nou. So Barcelona is going to have the advantage. And another thing is Real Madrid will of course have to care about the Champions League as well. I believe the main priority for Real Madrid right now is the Champions League. Because at this point I believe they should know that they are not going to win the La Liga title.
232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 19, 2023, 03:57:48 PM
Barcelona's Netherlands midfielder Frenkie de Jong, a long-time target of Manchester United and Chelsea, said in an interview on Spanish television: "Barca has always been the club of my dreams... I hope to be able to continue there for many more years". It is really rare in today's football to see such dedication of a footballer to his club and that after all the problems he had in Barcelona. Will the club appreciate it?
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/64993453

Frankie de Jong is staying loyal to the club. But I honestly do not know if Barcelona is going to return that favor. Currently, Barcelona is thinking about bringing Lionel Messi to the team. And I know Barcelona is going to do whatever they have to to make that possible. So nothing is certain for the players in Barcelona.
233  Economy / Economics / Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ? on: March 19, 2023, 08:47:01 AM
Yes, I'm feeling lost and depressed in pursuit of my financial freedom goals, what I'm doing is seen by others as bullshit and a waste of time, so I'm almost alone, with no one to accompany me. But I still believe in the path I have chosen, one day those people will have to apologize to me for their current attitude.
234  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do if bitcoin crash? on: March 19, 2023, 08:39:44 AM
If bitcoin crash today, what will be your fate? Poor or rich. Most people on the platform have submitted all their life savings to bitcoin investment. There was once a man in my area who sold his house to invest in a local platform called BARAZAR in 4 months missive the so-called BARAZAR was shoot down and now he does not have a cottage. So I ask again if bitcoin crashed today what will be your description rich or poor?
Firstly I don't think that it will ever happen. Bitcoin should not be thought of as all other alt-coins. Those who come to the market swell up and then crash . And investment in cryptocurrency is always risky, those who invest here should keep this in mind. So even if you are going to invest, you must invest keeping in mind that you should invest as much as you can afford to lose. And if I speak for myself, I will say that if I lose the amount of funds that I have invested in bitcoin or cryptocurrency, it will be a loss, but it will not be like sitting on the road.

We are bitcoin investors, so obviously no one wants it to crash. But no one can predict the future, and bitcoin is still a risky asset, so it's important to have a backup plan should that happen. If bitcoin crashes, I will also be quite sad and lose quite a lot of wealth, but given the profit, it gives me, it is totally worth the trade-off. I hope it doesn't crash, but I've always prepared for the worst.
235  Economy / Economics / Re: Scarcity of money on: March 19, 2023, 08:32:51 AM
The world economy also has cycles, there will be good times, and there will be downturns, we cannot expect our world to always be healthy. Currently, we are in a period of crisis and recession, if people can survive and take advantage of the downturn, we will have a good life when the time of prosperity comes. Historically, the economy has experienced similar difficulties many times, and it always overcomes them all, you don't need to worry about everyone, what you need to worry about is yourself.
236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 18, 2023, 06:56:05 PM
Toulouse vs Lille, this match ended with score 0-1Lille won but Lille really had difficulty to scored in that match, only Alexsandro score at 85 minutes which could make Lille win.
*Edit*
M.bayo got the score in the last minute of extra time, the final score was 0-2. Wow

Lille won the away match against Toulouse by 2-0. But it cannot be said that Toulouse performed poorly. The performance of the Toulouse player was very good throughout the match. However, Lille's defenders are more experienced than others. And their performance was good too. Every attack from Toulouse was successfully countered by Lille's defenders. Lille is in good form. If this consistency is maintained, the team will be able to go higher in the points table.
237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 18, 2023, 06:51:12 PM
Odds for ATM could look good but the reality is that the game is a lot closer than what people think. Valencia may not be doing great or anything like that but they are doing as well as they possibly could hope for and that's the important part. I believe that we shouldn't really be focusing on how we could profit from this with a bet, but more like stay away from it because it looks very risky.
I won't be betting on the game and will probably not watch the game neither, will check the highlights but I am not risking my money on such a risky game. If it was just the pure risk I was looking for, I would wager on some other underdog, this is just unknown.
1.56 is a small odds for a bet, especially considering that Valencia is right next to the relegation zone and they will strive to get points in this match, although it will be very difficult to do this, Atletico in good shape concede a little, so I think everything can end here with score 1:0 or 2:0. Perhaps it makes sense to watch the match and try to catch a late goal in live for a better odds.

Valencia is one of the weaker teams in La Liga. Even so, I wouldn't say that Atletico Madrid will win the match easily. Atlético Madrid's performances are now somewhat regular. However, Atletico Madrid's attack is weak. If Valencia can play fully defensively, they will be able to resist Atletico Madrid. Valencia has played very well in the last three matches. So I think Atletico Madrid can't get 3 points against Valencia.
238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 18, 2023, 06:42:17 PM
Dortmund should be able to win the match. After all, they have to defeat this match if they want to stay in the competition for the league title. I don't think they have any other option to think about other than winning. It is actually going to be a little bit of a surprise for me if they do not make it. Even if they draw this match, it is not going to be enough for them. They will have to win.
I can see, even if they get a draw in this match, they are not going to stay on the same points as Bayern Munich. It's pretty simple, anything other than a win is not going to be enough for Dortmund. And they should play the match keeping that in mind.
Considering that Bayern Munich is going to be hosted by Bayern Leverkusen tomorrow, Dortmund seems to have an easier match this round. The importance of this round comes from the fact that it's the last match before the international break, and the first match after the break will be against Bayern Munich. Therefore, I think Dortmund will put all their weight into winning this match to at least save the current points gap if Bayern won as well.
I'm watching the live odds, and they look high for Dortmund to win as it's now 1.55. I think it deserves to throw some bucks on this selection.

Bayern Munich will be favorites against Leverkusen. Munich is in a very strong position. On the other hand, Leverkusen is not doing well this season. Now the Leverkusen team is in ninth place in the points table. And so the chances of Munich winning in this match are high. On the other hand, the Dortmund team is now leading 4-1 against Koln. Dortmund's performance is very tidy now. Their match strategy is excellent. If they win this match, the Dortmund team will be able to go to the top of the table again.
239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 18, 2023, 06:33:01 PM
in the second half surprisingly Cremonese was able to score the first goal in the 61st minute by D. Ciofani. but less than 10 minutes, Monza was immediately able to equalize the score in the 69th minute by Carlos Augusto. and now the match in the second half became more interesting. in the first half Cremonese really continued to be pushed by Monza's attacks. but now Cremonese in the second half looked better but Monza didn't slow down their game either. I think Monza will be able to score again in this second half.
I expected Monza to win, but it looks like luck is not on their side in this game. In fact, they almost lost after Cremonese was able to score first, fortunately Monza was able to equalize 8 minutes later. The statistics of the match are towards Monza, but once again they are not so lucky with 15 attempts and 7 successful leads on target, only one goal can be created. Even then, it took them up to 69 minutes of the match to break into Monza's goal. I didn't think the game would end in a draw, but it did.

I agree with you. Luck was not with Monza. This is why they cannot win this match. The Monza's overall performance was excellent. Cremonese played defensively in this match. Their aim was to draw and they succeeded. However, Monza could have secured 3 points from this match if they were able to keep their defense strong. They have to perform more carefully in the upcoming matches. Being able to perform consistently in 2/3 matches will see Monza move into the top 10 of the points table.
240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Value till 2033? on: March 18, 2023, 03:16:02 PM
I was wondering that what could be the value of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Is always rising if we take a look at its peak chart from 2009 to 2023. And if it continues than what will be the price after 10 years and I am very curious to Know about this.
I'm optimistic it's still on five to six figures valuation and I would love to be on that year and happy to accumulate even 1 Bitcoin when that time comes. It's always uncertain but it's better to be optimistic rather than focusing on the negative stuff, it ain't doing good at all.

Yes, there is no exact figure for the bitcoin price in the next 10 years, but I believe bitcoin will be very expensive compared to its current value. And you are right, if we have invested in bitcoin and want to hold for longer, then what we need to focus on is faith in bitcoin. If we don't have enough faith in bitcoin, it's very difficult to hold for that long.
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