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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining with 2 GPUs on: January 08, 2018, 02:49:02 PM
I looked over https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator and it seemed like some algos are better covered by amd and other better by nvidia.
Another reason why I thought about this approach was in case some other altcoin is developed and works best on the other vendor so I could have better coverage and not risk being stuck on an altcoin that increases
difficulty and end up not making anything in return.

Do you guys see any advantages in using 1 nvidia & 1 amd gpu in one system or everything is negligible?

When it comes to GPU performances what is more important for mining? bitrate? memory size? frequency?
I've read that ETH is using DAG that increase overtime and this would need more than 2-3 GB.

When it comes to the CPU what is more important for mining? higher L1/L2 cache levels ? CPU frequency?

Also, does RAM play a role in mining? What ram types are better?
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining with 2 GPUs on: January 08, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
It's possible to mix AMD and Nvidia cards on the same mobo, but it tends to be temperamental and not really advisable for the noob miner.

I have a dual GTX 1060 3GB rig mining ZEN that delivers about 610 H/s on average and uses a total of 315W at the wall (the entire system). Cards are set for 85% power limit and modestly overclocked to 2000/4150.

If you mine a Cryptonote coin like Monero, Electroneum, etc., then a powerful CPU can easily pull its weight. The Ryzen 5 1600 I have in one desktop does 370 H/s while an older FX-8300 still delivers a respectable 190 H/s; a really ancient Phenom II 955, however, only manages 55 H/s and Windows (7) slows to a crawl.

So a possible setup would be two RX 570 or GTX 1060 plus a decent CPU so you can use a GPU miner program at the same time as a CPU Cryptonote miner (e.g. - Claymore's v3.9).


Thanks for the tips! Yes, that's what I was thinking about - having the CPU mine other coins in the mean time or have it working fine for gaming as well.


Totally agree... mix and matching AMD/Nvidia is not trivial as depending on what miners you use it might not be so easy
For instance Claymore's Ethereum mining would work on both Nvidia & AMD however its Cryptonote (XMR/ETN) is only AMD, you need a separate software for Nvidia
I would recommend trying to get 2 AMD RX 580 it's more profitable than the GTX 1060 however not by much (for the past few months atleast)

Thanks for the tips!
So, basically when you say "Claymore's Cryptonote (XMR/ETN) is only AMD" that would mean the mining software would not detect the nvidia GPU, right?
I suppose I could use another mining app designed for nvidia and that should work fine at the same time with the other app for amd, right?
Although the disadvantage would be you cannot mine with both GPUs to increase the hash rate.



If you want a decent gaming PC, you'd better have a clear vision of what you're expecting, since that will place constraints on at least one of your cards, your CPU choice, and other components.

1. You can mix AMD and Nvidia GPUs fairly easily on Windows. Most Linux distributions tend to make mixing them much more of a headache, but it is possible.

2. This depends on the exact components selected. Also note that the typical unit for power is watts (joules per second), not w/h.

3. This depends on your goals for the rig as a gaming system. For most users, an i3 or i5 will suffice. Alternatively, you could go with an AMD-based build. (Pay close attention to the chipset if you are thinking about expanding the rig.)


Note that this rig might not pay for itself. Making a mining rig also work effectively for gaming (depending on user expectations for gaming performance) usually requires additional RAM, storage, a more expensive CPU, etc.
This rig only has 2 GPUs, one of which will be mining part-time. You'd be tasking 2 cards with the burden of paying back not only their initial cost, but also that of the rest of the rig. (This is one reason why rigs with more GPUs are favored, as mining with more GPUs and/or more powerful GPUs makes better use of the overhead cost associated with purchasing and powering the rig base {motherboard/CPU/RAM/etc.}, which does not directly contribute to revenue.)

Of course, you might end up with a nicely "discounted" gaming rig.

Thanks for the tips!
1. I didn't select the OS yet, I'm a windows user but if hashing is better on Linux (although I haven't heard of something like this yet in the few days I've researched this) I would consider moving and solving the headaches. I have a computer science background, I should be ok.
2. Yes, w/h = "watts per hour" sorry for the ambiguity. Smiley
3. I was thinking of also using the CPU for mining and in case it's not working out, I could sell it/use it as a gaming PC.
Yes, you are correct, gaming also requires other components but I was thinking to use a 250 GB SSD, 8-16 GB RAM & a decent CPU that can also mine/run games.

983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Mining with 2 GPUs on: January 08, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
I'm thinking of building a mining/gaming PC with 2 GPUs and was thinking which setup would be best to cover the majority of algorithms (non-SHA-256 related)/altcoins with decent speeds.


1. Have you guys tried to mix nvidia (e.g. GTX 1060 6gb) & amd (e.g. RX 470 4gb ) on the same motherboard? Does this help in covering more algorithms with better speeds?
2. Any idea on the power consumption of the whole system? I've seen posts about these cards under volted @ 110 - 150w, so would 4-500w/h be a good approximation of the wall consumption for the whole system?
3. Would investing in a good CPU also be a good idea? If so what do you recommend?


P.S. I'm more interested in treating this as an investment (mining coins and keeping them/exchanging for others not selling them asap).

984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [POOL] Bytecoin UK - The new BCN Pool without fees on: January 08, 2018, 10:46:43 AM
Has anyone noticed that the hashrate displayed on bytecoin.uk (when you search your wallet address) is about 2-3 times less that what is the mining app reporting?

Xmrig reports 90H/s and bytecoin.uk reports ~30-35H/s. Why is this happening?

I'm currently mining on windows with xmrig-2.4.3-gcc-win64.

BTW, do you guys know what does the use_nicehash parameter do? Should I activate it? I can't find anything relevant online.
use_nicehash    - Limit the nonce to 3 bytes as required by nicehash.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining altcoins & withdrawing the same mined coin to your wallet on: January 04, 2018, 08:25:05 AM

Hmmm... ok.  You are using Minergate, which means that you are very new to mining.  I suggest you not use that anymore.  The performance of Minergate is pretty poor.  Since you are new, I can suggest you try Nicehash's tool.  It will use better mining software and pay you directly in BTC.  You can then use the BTC to buy the coins you really want.

There are a lot better options out there than Nicehash, but it's easy to get started with.  The problem you are going to run into with Nicehash is that they have a high threshold for payouts right now.  There are some tricks to help... but this will require a bit more knowledge in mining, exchanges, and wallets.

If you are really wanting to take the plunge, then don't use Nicehash or Minergate.  Find a coin that you want to mine... you can use whattomine.com or crypto-coinz.net for some suggestions.  You will need to download the wallet for that coin, create a wallet address, and then use that to mine the coin at a pool.  You can go ahead and start mining as soon as you get the wallet address, you don't have to wait for the wallet to sync.  Now, depending on the coin you choose, it will use a specific algorithm, you will then need mining software to mine that algorithm.  You download a copy of that mining software, setup a batch file with the relevant information to mine to a pool that supports the coin.  Depending on the pool, you may have to set a threshold for payouts, or they may have automatic payout thresholds.

There's a lot... and I mean a lot of knowledge in between those sentences in the last paragraph above.  This will take some time to acquire.  I suggest you start with Nicehash, and spend a couple, or more weeks reading articles, watching youtube videos, and reading the threads here.  Hopefully after those two, three, or four weeks, you will have gotten enough BTC from Nicehash to cash out, and you will be ready to graduate to mining specific coins.

I hope I don't come off as rude, but it's impossible to transfer years of knowledge in a few paragraphs.

Thanks for the information! Yes, this is the way I want to go. I do have a wallet address online with MyEtherWallet.

Can you please tell me what is the software called (the one that allows you to specify the pool & the coin)?

P.S. I have also tried NiceHash yesterday (before Minergate) but indeed they have high fees and it's not the way I want to go (since it converts to BTC and you need a lot of hash power to make anything until a payout).
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining altcoins & withdrawing the same mined coin to your wallet on: January 03, 2018, 09:06:40 PM
Mining software does not provide you with coins.  The pool and wallet are the only things that deal with coins.  You will use mining software to contribute hashrate to a pool.  You will then withdraw coins that the hashrate contributes to from the pool to your own wallet.  There are thousands of coins, and no single wallet that will hold them all.  You are better off using the official wallet for the coin you are mining.  Depending on the pool, you also have the opportunity to mine directly to an exchange's wallet for that coin.  This keeps you from having to run dozens of wallets on your computer.  I say it depends on the pool, as exchanges don't like for you to mine directly to their wallet, but if the pool has a threshold to reach before it automatically pays out, then the "deposits" are not too frequent, and exchanges won't care about this.

If you are using one of the yiimp based pools, then you can keep the coin you are mining instead of having it convert to BTC by using the "c=XXX" parameter on the password of your batch file... where the XXX part is the short code for the coin... like c=GOA for mining and keeping Goacoin... or c=ALTCOM for AltCommunityCoin.


Thanks for the reply, puwaha! Can you be a bit more specific?

I have discovered the Minergate app that allows me to mine through Cryptonote for altcoins and then transfer them to my wallet (I found MyEtherWalltet to carry a lot of different altcoins - is it good?) without exchanging them to other currencies.
Do you know of better apps I can use to mine (using CPU mostly) maybe even other apps that cover other altcoins?
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Mining altcoins & withdrawing the same mined coin to your wallet on: January 03, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
I'm new to mining and I would like to mine for various altcoins (mainly low difficulty & value ones).

I'm currently looking for a PC mining app (CPU or CPU + GPU for windows) that has low fees and gives you the option of withdrawing the coin you mined to your wallet. (rather than having it transformed to bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin etc).
It would be nice if you can also specify the mining pool for it so you could mine any new altcoin (not sure it this is possible though).

Are you using any mining software that allows you to do this?

Also, can you recommend a wallet that has low fees for various altcoins?
988  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Nou in zona cryptocurrecy on: November 03, 2017, 02:41:14 PM
Eu ma gandeam sa investesc pe long term in monede noi cu pontential de crestere.
Nu ma gandeam sa investesc sume mari la inceput oricum.

Mersi de sfat si idee.
989  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Nou in zona cryptocurrecy on: November 03, 2017, 09:26:46 AM

Desigur ca am retras. Se poate retrage prin diferite systeme de procesarea platilor. Bineinteles exista un comision care varianza intre 2-5%. Personal am retras saptamana asta bani.

Banii intra direct pe card convertiti in RON. Desigur exista sisteme care baga banii direct in cont si moneda care o ai la ei pe site. Personal am facut retrageri de pe exchangeuri prin Payeer si Paypal....

Ok, mersi frumos pt info!

Daca mai sunt aspecte pe care ar fi bine sa le stiu la inceput, va rog sa nu ezitati sa scrieti aici Smiley
990  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Nou in zona cryptocurrecy on: November 02, 2017, 03:46:26 PM

De cumparat.. poti cumpara cat ai  bani. O moneda poate fi impartita in parti tare mici.. dar de obicei schimburile au o suma minima....

AirDropurile e gasesti in sectiunea Altcoins. Sunt monezi virtuale care se lanseaza de obicei si pentru a avea o comunitate cei care le lanseaza... ofera gratis o anumita valoare din aceea moneda cu cerinta de ai urmari pe Twitter, etc


eu personal am folosit c-cex.com, novaexchange(dar am inteles ca se inchide sau isi shimba proprietarii... etc). Yobit, Cryptopia, bitrex.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume/24-hour/

Aici gasesti o lista de exchangeuri. Iti poti face la cateva cont si poti sa te uiti ce metoda de alimentare au.... si care este comisionul de retragere pentru moneda respectiva....

Practic bagi banii pe card si alimentezi contul lor si apoi poti cumpara moneda. Apoi o transferi in portofelul tau virtual....

Ok, mersi frumos pt informatii!

Ai retras vreodata bani in urma vanzarii? Poti sa retragi banii in RON de ex in cont direct sau prin card? Sau e nevoie sa ai cont in valuta la banca in USD sau EUR?

Care ar fi cea mai buna varianta pe care o folositi? (comisioane mici, rapiditate etc.)
991  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Nou in zona cryptocurrecy on: November 01, 2017, 12:03:07 PM
Ai putea incepe sa cumperi ethereum si sa fii pe faza la airdropuri.Alta metoda ar fi sa te inscrii la signature campaign si sa postezi.

Acum bitcoinul e foarte scump. Acum a trecut de 6500$. Recomandarea este la fel.. sa cumperi ether... si sa vezi apoi ce si cum.

De asemenea faptul de a participa la AirDropuri te poate ajuta sa mai castigi ceva tokenuri.

Mersi pt info!

Ce sunt mai exact AirDrop-urile? Cum pot sa ma inscriu?

Legat de platforma de unde cumpar ether sau platformele de tranzactionare ce puteti sa-mi recomandati?

Exista o suma/unitate minima pe care pot sa o cumpar la ether sau bitcoin?

992  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Nou in zona cryptocurrecy on: October 31, 2017, 05:13:42 PM
Salut!

Sunt nou in lumea cryptocurrency si sunt foarte interesat cum as putea sa incep. M-ar interesa sa investesc in monede noi care au potential de crestere.

Citesc de ceva timp pe forumul acesta si e foarte util Smiley Am vazut cateva post-uri care vorbesc despre coinflux.com (bazat in RO) unde as putea sa cumpar bitcoin si banuiesc ca de acolo as putea sa cumpar orice alta moneda folosind bitcoin, asa e?
Care e cel mai bun/sigur exchange pe care il foositi sa investiti/scoateti banii?

Ce platforme folositi pt tranzactionare? Am instalat pe telefon TabTrader si zTrader dar nu stiu exact unde ar trebui sa incep.
Ati putea sa ma indrumati spre alte surse (topic-uri sau link-uri externe fie ele in EN sau RO) unde as putea sa aflu mai multe?

Mersi!

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