That was a smart move. I hope that you also stopped using centralized exchanges since then...


This is another reason for which you should never used a centralized exchange: similar to banks, they can always seize your account (abusively or not). You are not the owner of your funds once you deposit the money at the exchange. This is because you are not in possession of your private keys. And the saying "not your keys, not your coins" is very valid and it was also stated in a Court decision, by a judge! As a coincidence, the trial involved again Coinbase's name. The exchange was called into a Court of Law by a client which was not allowed by the exchange to redeem his BTG coins after Bitcoin Gold fork occurred. Judge's final decision clearly states that not your keys, not your coins.

Having the (main) website seized by authorities does not necessarily mean that the operations will be halted. For example, in May 2020 Romanian authorities seized the well known torrents website FileList (filelist.ro). Yet the very next day filelist.io was up and running.

Main website is still seized:



However, their mirror site is still up and running since main website was seized. All users moved to the mirror website and no other problem occurred since then. And, if I'm not mistaken, admins made a post back then saying something like even if that mirror website will be also seized, they still have several other mirrors for keeping their torrent site up and running.

I believe that The Sceptical Chymist is sorry for not attending the parties from previous years and now he wants to "catch up" -- meaning to drink with this occasion also for the previous years =)))

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I hope nutildah will be present again with that camera, to record everything once more

Thank you for this update, shasan!


Thank you also for this "purge", which brings the topic closer to reality.

Any news about ninjaboon and BitCoinDream? Have you tried to contact them? Besides, ninjaboon was last active on 07 October 2022.

Other than that, any news about krogothmanhattan and Hhampuz? As you remember they already told me they are not into escrow services anymore.


Have you tried to contact them...? Have they told you something else...?

Great job, 1miau! The table looks more "clean" now And keeping also the old format, inside that post, for mobile users, is also a very wise decision. I also implemented all changes within the translated version of the topic.


Yup, I noticed that. It is what it is... However, I wanted to let you know that, while implementing the changes inside the translation (I did it while also looking at your new BBCode) I noticed that you left a reference to an earlier hyperlink inside the new BBCode. It does not affect the table in any way, yet I believe you can also delete that part, for having a "100% clean" code as well Here is the reference to that hyperlink:


And, perhaps, this part can also be deleted?


(Eventually, you can change this text with a text related to the new survey -- the one for Blockchair's final mark?)

Other than that, everything looks great! Thank you for the efforts you made to update the BBcode!

Dupa expirarea celor doua saptamani in care a fost activ chestionarul, s-a votat ca tabelul sa nu mai contina coloana comentariilor, acestea urmand sa apara in format "hover" pe coloana "Utilitate". In acelasi timp, votul referitor la nota noua pentru Blockchair a ramas indecis, urmand o noua votare, unde se va decide daca va ramane cu nota 8 sau daca i se va acorda nota noua.

Aditional, 1miau a pastrat intr-o postare si vechiul format, intrucat cei care viziteaza topicul folosind telefoanele mobile nu pot beneficia de functia "hover". Ca urmare, voi aplica si eu aceasta idee.

Mai jos se regaseste noul format al tabelului. In postarea urmatoare voi adauga si vechiul format, pentru referinta.

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Nume (link)	Suportă Bech32 / Bech32m (P2TR)?	Recunoaște adresele SegWit (P2SH)?**	Utilitate (scor subiectiv)	Funcționează fără JS	Notă acordată de
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Blockchair.com	Da (09/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (09/2019)	8 / 10 Puncte	Da	1miau
Trezor Bitcoin Explorer	Da (11/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (11/2019)	7.5 / 10 Puncte	Parțial***	Saint-loup
mempool	Da (10/2020) / Da (05/2022)	Da (10/2020)	7.5 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
OKLink	Da (08/2022) / Da (08/2022)	Da (08/2022)	]7.5 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
bitaps.com	Da (09/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (09/2019)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	1miau
BTC.com	Da (09/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (09/2019)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	1miau
chainflyer.bitflyer.jp	Da (12/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (12/2019)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	Alveus
BitcoinWho'sWho	Da (09/2022) / Da (09/2022)	Da (09/2022)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	GazetaBitcoin
BitcoinExplorer	Da (08/2022) / Da (08/2022)	Da (08/2022)	7 / 10 Puncte	Parțial***	SFR10
bitquery	Da (09/2022) / Da (09/2022)	Da (09/2022)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	Rizzrack
TokenView	Da (09/2022) / Da (09/2022)	Da (09/2022)	7 / 10 Puncte	Nu	ajiz138
BitInfoCharts	Da (09/2022) / Nu (11/2022)	Nu (09/2022)	7 / 10 Puncte	Parțial (vezi comentariul)	ajiz138
SoChain	Da (09/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (09/2019)	6 / 10 Puncte	Nu	1miau
Blockcypher.com	Da (09/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Nu (09/2019)	6 / 10 Puncte	Parțial***	1miau
cryptoID	Da (12/2019) / Nu (10/2022)	Da (12/2019)	6 / 10 Points	Nu	SFR10
ViaBTC.com	Da (09/2019) / Nu (10/2022)	Nu (09/2019)	6 / 10 Puncte	Nu	1miau
Btcscan	Da (08/2022) / Da (08/2022)	Da (08/2022)	6 / 10 Puncte	Da	SFR10
Blockchain.com	Da (11/2019) / Nu (10/2022)	Da (12/2019)	5 / 10 Puncte	Parțial***	1miau
Localbitcoinschain.com	Da (12/2019) / Nu (10/2022)	Da (12/2019)	5 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
BitcoinBlockExplorer	Da (08/2022) / Da (08/2022)	Nu (08/2022)	5 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
Learnmeabitcoin	Da (10/2022) / Nu (10/2022)	Nu (10/2022)	5 / 10 Puncte[/abbr]	Nu	ajiz138
Atomic	Da (08/2022) / Da (08/2022)	Nu (08/2022)	4.5 / 10 Puncte	Parțial***	SFR10
CoinCap	Da (10/2020) / Nu (10/2022)	Nu (10/2020)	4 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
Yogh	Da (10/2022) / Da (10/2022)	Nu (10/2022)	4 / 10 Puncte	Nu	ajiz138
Blockexplorer.one	Da (12/2019) / Da (10/2022)	Nu (12/2019)	3 / 10 Puncte	Nu	LTU_btc
Blockpath	Da (12/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Nu (12/2019)	3 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
Blockstream	Da (11/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Da (11/2019)	2 / 10 Puncte	?	pooya87
Insight	Da (12/2019) / Da (05/2022)	Nu (12/2019)	1 / 10 Puncte	Nu	SFR10
Wallet Explorer	Da (09/2022) / Da (05/2022)	Nu (09/2019)	0 / 10 Puncte (de evitat)	Da	1miau
Spiral	Da (09/2022) / Da (10/2022)	Nu (09/2022)	x / 10 Puncte	Nu	cygan

Ummm... Maybe I did not express well what I meant. Let me rephrase it.

So you said you will keep also the old format of the table (actually it's inside your earlier post). This is for those willing to browse from mobile phones. And I suggested the following: (1) there will certainly be changes to the new table from OP (the one which is already changed); (2) since OP will be updated in the future with various suggestions from other users, it would be wise to update also the old table -- the one you kept for users browsing from mobiles. Practically, since you (we) keep also the old table inside a post, I believe that when new sites will be added to / deleted from the new table from OP, this change should reflect also inside the old table, which you posted here. This way, users browsing from mobile phones will also be able to see all new additions to the new table from OP.

Does it make sense now?


Yes, we need to reveal the secret! Reveal the secret we must, young padawan!


Well... I did not say you did a not nice move But it would be great to have a final debate for that website's final mark, thus the ones which voted anything else excepting 8 or 9 can choose between those two "finalist" marks!

Liebe Freunde, ich weiß, dass Sie Deutsche sind und die Deutschen sehr bekannt sind für ihr logisches Denken, ihre Kohärenz im Ausdruck und ihre Gründlichkeit.

Vergessen Sie jedoch nicht, dass es in dieser Welt auch etwas Platz für Metaphern, für Literatur und für Worte geben sollte, die Gefühle und Emotionen ausdrücken Und ich habe lateinische Wurzeln, daher können meine Schriften manchmal zu leidenschaftlich für a erscheinen Ursache, die auch viele Metaphern enthält.

Tatsächlich hat der Begriff "Revolution" viele Bedeutungen, die sich nicht unbedingt auf Gewalt beziehen. Nehmen wir zum Beispiel die Revolutionsbewegung der Erde – sie hat nichts mit dem Sturz eines politischen Regimes zu tun, mit einer „Revolution“, doch ist dies der Begriff für die Rotation unseres Planeten um die Sonne.

Wenn Sie möchten, können Sie mein Schreiben als eine metaphorische Art der Formulierung von Worten betrachten. Ich habe meinen Worten etwas Lyrik hinzugefügt, in der Hoffnung, die Herzen derer zu berühren, die sie lesen

I'd like to let everybody know that I finished the (whole) Romanian translation of Husna QA & Chikito's very long and useful topic. Hooray!

I have a note for all those which translated already part 6 of this topic: after an observation made by PrivacyG, Husna QA updated the chapter about CoinJoin, therefore those which already translated this part (if any) should apply also this recent update.

And for those which did not start yet this translation but they intend to and also for those which started the translation but did not finish it: please be aware that this topic is huge, having almost 7000 words. I suggest you to work on it in an organized manner, in order to not exhaust yourselves. The information presented is very complex, it's also very technical, thus it's easy to make mistakes, especially ones determined by fatigue. Therefore I recommend you to translate one part at a time, making sure that the translation is correct. I hope this helps

Thank you for this update, Husna QA, and also for the fast reply! I understand your point of view: nothing from present changes the past and in the past Wasabi was a pioneer, no matter that it turn rogue now. So the part regarding this wallet being a pioneer of CoinJoin stays, as it's a part of history, and theymos congratulated them for what they were at that moment of the past. However, considering their recent moves, your new added observation is more than welcome.

The update is also reflected inside the Romanian translation of your topic.

Dat fiind ca Husna QA a raspuns in topicul original, si a si efectuat o adaugire, prezint aici actualizarea aplicata capitolului referitor la CoinJoin:

Notă:


Accesați, de asemenea, și acest link: https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/zksnacks-blacklisting-update.

I don't know how much your password can help you if hackers break the database of the exchange. Remember that the forum also got hacked in the past and hackers obtained many passwords of users' accounts...
Indeed, a strong password is useful but it's not all you need for not having your identity stolen. For not having your identity stolen no third party should have your data.

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As I wrote above, you should use only decentralized exchanges, crypto ATMs and peer-to-peer transfers. You can always search on CoinATMRadar for a cash-in / cash-out crypto ATM in your area. These ATMs are (supposed to be) anonymous, although their fees are not small...

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If you carefully read OP you'll notice that the first thief was caught and convicted. Then another thief used the victim's identity... He was in an endless loophole...


I doubt this would be a good idea... As bittraffic observed, such move would only draw even more suspicion on you...

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No, there is no way to know for sure that your data was actually deleted...

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Have you read in OP that Coinbase sold clients' data to third parties? Isn't Coinbase also a reputable exchange? Besides, don't you know that Binance got hacked twice already? Only luck made that Binance clients did not have their personal information stolen as well and hackers were only interested in their deposits...

Yup, this is a wise move. We have the old format as reference, those willing to use it can still do it (this also implies that it should be updated each time OP gets updated) and if in the future you will wish (in a democratic way ) to return to old format, the old table will be available.


Awww, you applied a democratic vote for everything, don't punish Blockchair now with a unilateral decision I guess it would be fair for this site to organize one more survey for a final decision regarding its final mark (a vote for 8 or 9). Maybe a one week survey...? Also take into consideration that such a move will also be consistent with earlier changes, meaning it will be a democratic vote

Danke AHOYBRAUSE für die Übersetzung dieses Themas von mir! Du hast wieder einen tollen Job gemacht!

Dieses Thema ist etwas ganz Besonderes für mich, da es mich sehr berührt wenn ich daran denke wie Satoshi es geschafft hat, die ganze Welt zu verändern, und das dabei kein Tropfen Blut jemals von irgendjemandem geflossen ist! Dies ist eher eine philosophische Schrift welche jedoch eine wahre Tatsache darstellt: Wir alle lebten (und leben immer noch) in einer unblutigen Revolution.

Satoshi wollte nie Blut. Er wollte uns nur befreien. Frei von Banken, von unterdrückerischen Regierungen, von jeglichen Dritten die nur darauf aus sind uns irgendwie zu bestehlen. Er bot uns Bitcoin kostenlos an und wir können seit dem Erscheinen von Bitcoin die volle Kontrolle über unser eigenes Geld haben.

Ich hoffe, dass deutsche Nutzer dieses Thema in ihrer Muttersprache lesen werden!

I confirm receiving the 0.35 mBTC and I also want to let all involved parties know that the card was shipped today to Chi using safest option presented by Romanian Post. Thank you, 1miau, for that!

Please find below the receipt I received from Romanian Post:



I also informed Chi about the shipping and I kindly asked him to make a post here once here receives the card (I hope this will happen before of current month).

Thank you, 1miau, for organizing the giveaway for my couch, where RickDeckard won your prize in BTC and the card offered by me; thank you, RickDeckard, for your big heart which determined you to make an auction for helping yahoo62278, offering this nice card as prize; thank you, PowerGlove, for participating inside the auction, for offering greatest bid and for having also a big heart, offering the card you won to someone else; thank you, ChitBitCTY for accepting the prize! (You may find here the rest of the way the card had to go until finally finding its winner )

It's really amazing to see what a long way this card made and, in the end, yahoo62278 could be helped!

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At our next giveaway / raffle I will try to ask a Romanian Post officer the price of shipping an elephant inside a simple envelope. You know, just to have the information

02 - GazetaBitcoin

Thank you, OP!

Avem un concurs nou!

[FREE RAFFLE] 505th - ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL PRINTED COIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444625.0

Se pot castiga urmatoarele: o moneda Cypher Hodl printata la imprimanta 3D.


Organizator: krogothmanhattan

Poate participa oricine daca s-a inregistrat anterior datei de 1 februarie.
Modalitate de inscriere: se alege un numar de la 00 la 99 (care nu a fost deja rezervat).
Transportul: gratuit in SUA; pentru restul lumii se va discuta cu minerjones.

Concursul este identic cu cele anterior realizate de OP.

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Si eu la fel Merci!

Va multumesc amandurora pentru idee. Sincer sa fiu, am observat si eu partea aceea in timpul traducerii (si mi-au sangerat un pic ochii ). IntimitateaG are, de asemenea, dreptate, cand spune ca stie ca mentin mereu articolele conform celor originale (aceasta este o forma de respect pentru autorul original). Totodata insa, se pot introduce si note de catre translator, cum a spus NeuroticFish.

Planul meu era sa termin de tradus mai intai monstruozitatea de topic (are peste 6000 de cuvinte in total). Dupa cum vedeti, am rezervat unele postari -- acolo vor intra celalalte parti care trebuie traduse (la care lucrez in prezent). Ulterior, dupa ce as fi terminat tot, aveam de gand sa-i scriu si eu autorului, pentru a-l trage de maneca cu privire la Wasabi. IntimitateaG mi-a luat-o inainte^* insa Ca urmare, propun sa asteptam sa raspunda autorul. apoi voi opera si eu modificarile. Intre timp o sa continui sa lucrez la restul traducerii. Si, in caz ca autorul nu raspunde sau nu doreste sa opereze nicio modificare (desi ma indoiesc ca ar proceda asa), voi adauga la final o nota cu privire la pericolele asociate cu Wasabi.

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Uraaa! Bravo, IntimitateG, felicitari! Inca un pic^** si ajungi Legendar! Ma bucur foarte mult sa te vad ajungand in aceasta postura speciala!

^* IntimitateG, vezi ca i-ai scris gresit numele (sa nu se supere omul).
^**"Un pic" este, poate, un termen prea optimist pentru cele 285-540 zile ramase pana la noul rang, dar sa fim optimisti!

Hey there Asuspawer09 and Agbe! Thank you for all the efforts you make for these translations! Feel free to translate these topics of mine If you need my support, you can always PM me for clarifying everything. I just kindly ask you to not forget to send me a preview before publishing the translations, for a last double check, and also don't forget the template for author and original topic mentioned in OP

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Meanwhile, two new translations have been added to OP:

• What happens when your identity is stolen -- real story || Avoid CEXs! was translated in German by AHOYBRAUSE: Was passiert wenn die Identität gestohlen wird, wahre Geschichte | Vermeide CEX!
• Phil Zimmermann's thoughts about PGP - We all should read them was translated in German by CoinEraser: Phil Zimmermanns Gedanken zu PGP - Wir alle sollten sie lesen

I also added these translations as footnotes inside the original threads.

Thank you both, AHOYBRAUSE and CoinEraser! Looking forward for future collaborations (Speaking of which, AHOYBRAUSE just informed me that he will also translate in German the topic Bitcoin - a bloodless revolution.)