What baffles me is the fact that, between September 2019 and April 2023 only 5 posts were made inside this topic. Since April this year, though, there are 4 pages of posts Probably is a mix of two factors - Users are, from one reason or another, tired of CEX's [...] and started embracing more the solutions that exist in the P2P space. If this is so (and I hope you are right) I am more than happy. Perhaps this topic of mine would become irrelevant at some point in time. And, if it will happen, I will not feel bad. It's bad enough that it took people more than a decade to make such more and to finally open their eyes in front of the risks associated with CEXs, speaking at large, and with exposing their privacy, in particular. So I really hope you are right about that, Rick! The second factor, albeit this can't be directly measured, would be the signature campaign that icopress is doing regarding spreading awareness for the project within users who visit bitcointalk. Not only that, they seem to be active at least on Reddit[1] (albeit few users go there), Mastodon[2] and Telegram[3]. While I have to confess that I never heard of Mastodon until now (  ), since I am not using social media, I have to congratulate icopress for his continuous work on the forum, both as a campaign manager and as a person trying to help others to preserve their privacy and anonymity. On one side, as a campaign manager he does a lot of good to the forum, by not tolerating spam / scam (and he is very good at that). On the other side, his actions towards users' privacy are priceless. I, for one, appreciate him a lot for all these. |
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Why don't you use Tor version of the website? then why Cloudflare? Why not? The forum itself also uses CloudFlare. Indeed, perhaps it's not the best option, since many associate CloudFlare with NSA, but it is what it is. We can reach a compromise, one confirmation to start the mixing process and not be able to withdraw until you get 3 confirmations, here the waiting time is reduced and the coins are still safe.  See? What you wrote above is precisely what I anticipated in my earlier post: I guess they wanted to choose a number bigger than zero and small enough in order for the users to not complain. Perhaps, if they required 6 confirmation there would be questions about "why are 6 confirmations needed?". Same would have happened if they required 3 or, like in current case, 2 confirmations. No matter what number they chose, some would still ask why that number of confirmations was chosen. |
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I can not pronounce myself about all cases mentioned in OP, as I have to admit I did not study them all. However, unfortunately, I was forced somehow to study very well one of them. It happened against my will, as I never wanted that, yet things in life don't always happen as we want, so I was actually dragged in studying TimeLord's case -- I was dragged by his actions against me (his most recent one being the fact that he gave me a feedback calling me racist Oo -- obviously, with no relevant reference link). I understand that yahoo questions the feedbacks in the cases he mentioned in OP (and, perhaps, some other ones as well). However, by taking a good look at TimeLord's received feedbacks, we can see that those calling him a liar / troll are users with very good reputation on the forum. Among others, we can see the names of LoyceV, 1miau, icopress, marlboroza or nutildah. Furthermore, these feedbacks are neutral ones, so they fully respect the rules of Marketplace Trust system. Should we hand out neutral/neg tags like candy?(open but might be future edits) As long as there are no financial deals involved, neutral feedbacks should be used. Sadly, not all users know that and many misuse the Marketplace Trust system, and I am emphasizing the official name of this system, as many consider it simply Trust system. It's not a Trust system, but a Trust system for Marketplace. Meaning it should be used for financial deals when giving positive or negative feedbacks. However, for all other kind of feedbacks users may leave neutral feedbacks.
If someone argues with a DT member, DT members will ~ them. So, there is no point in sharing an unbiased opinion. The only good thing is, If a DT member says, "This is correct, and that is not, " I have to agree with him as an average Joe. The better decision for an average Joe is to ignore the reputation board and start shitposting to make money from the signature campaign (Which I have been doing for the last couple of days).
It's normal, so @Learn Bitcoin, don't worry. I don't know about your issue but blaming DT like how you did it, is not really accurate. I believe that Learn Bitcoin had a bad experience with a DT user (or some DT users) and he tends to extend this view over all DT users. Or, perhaps, he is too polite and, instead of pointing the finger toward someone he talks using a general approach. I can not say anything about Learn Bitcoin's (bad) experience with DT, as I don't know it, but what I can say about him is that he translated some topics of mine and he did it in a very professional manner. He was serious, he finished the work in time and he did it well. I am thankful to him for his (free) efforts in translating my topics and I think he is a serious user. |
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I will quote here 1miau's post from the other topic: ~Timelord2067
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~Timelord2o67 This is important, as the troll has 2 accounts so, in case someone adds him to his distrust list with one account, make sure the other account is distrusted as well.
And this despite the fact that at that time we communicated more or less well with him. Dear icopress, many thanks for sharing your insigths on the issue. It's really surpsrising to see that Timelord2067's reaction to that incident has many similarities to the issue mentioned in my OP. First, we didn't had any issues with Timelord2067. The same thing happened between the troll and me, in the past. For those not knowing where the problems between us started, I'll quote myself below: - Timelord2067 started distrusting nullius 5 weeks ago, according to loyce.club; at the same time interval, nullius started distrusting Timelord2067 as well - nullius has a connection with me (he merited some of my posts; I translated some of his precious work in Romanian; we talked to each other in a friendly / respectful manner in various topics etc.) - Timelord2067 and I never had any conflict; the only time when we interacted was in a friendly manner, in one of my topics, when he also merited me - Timelord2067 becomes aware of the connection between me an nullius, seeing we respectfully talk to each other (also in the above mentioned topic) Result: Timelord2067 starts distrusting me two weeks ago. I tried to PM him, telling him that without trying to change his opinion (which I was not), I only kindly ask him to explain his decision. Why? Of course, he didn't answer, as he was embarrassed (most likely) to admit that his judgement |
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Add ⁓Timelord2067 to your trust list I salute the initiative of 1miau, which doubles down the thoughts I expressed with multiple occasions. This troll must be taken out from DT1 completely. At the moment he has 15 exclusion yet there are still 9 DT1 users including him in their Trust lists. However, I believe that, in time, more and more will see the miserable character of this imbecile and other will exclude him as well, no matter of they are part of DT or not. This should have happened already a long time ago but still, it's okay if it happened now and not back then. For years now, all the baboon does is spreading lies, derailing threads, making false accusations, attacking users with low ranks and so on and so forth. He looks like a village idiot trying to bully all people which are smaller than him. Sadly, for a while, he managed to do it. But his days are over. He may continue to live as a baboon inside the mental institution where he's kept for most of the time, or wherever else he wants to, but not here! |
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1miau, it is useless to try to use a rational manner of speaking with the baboon. As you know well, the old perv is always bringing up some ridiculous ideas, taken out of context, but he assembles them in such a manner that if someone not knowing him is reading his imbecilities may be tempted, at first sight, to believe him. However, the approach of the troll is very well known by most of forum users, thus his attempts are futile. If you want, in a way, he is just like c******unter. c******unter used, in his glorious days, to write all sort of idiocies, but he paid enough attention to touch OP's subject as well, thus his posts could not be (always) reported for being off-topic (and, therefore deleted). Apparently, c******unter was a sort of mentor for our village idiot named Timelord and now he applies what he learned from forum's (probably) greatest troll. However, sadly for him, he is years behind the skills of his mentor and all he does is to ridicule himself up to the point of being excluded from DT1. Now, of course, his Neanderthal mind needs to fight back somehow. So, in-between some baseless accusations of racism, he hijacks various threads, trying to derail them. But no worry, the baboon is excluded by 15 DT1 users or so, thus his glory days here are over. Just ignore him. |
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It is, indeed, a very interesting topic. I decided to translate it after it got some attention, after nullius wrongfully attacked fillippone for the ideas expressed in that topic. Although nullius has a lot of expertise in cryptography, this attack to fillippone was certainly a wrong one... So this determined me in translating this topic then kindly asking him to add it also to the list of topics he wants to be translated in other languages.
it may be a good idea to add this one too to our list, don't you think? I share same feeling here, for 2 reasons: (1) the topic contains a very interesting material; (2) having it translated in more languages would be another sign that the attack headed to fillippone should not have been made... Also, this weekend I'll update the OP so we can officially welcome iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2  Yay! |
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Cloudflare DDoS makes the site very slow, and since you care about customer data and don't want Chainanalysis to collect data, doesn't using coinjoin with Cloudflare provide traceable privacy? Why don't you use Tor version of the website? If once can wait out for 4 or 6 hours to have their coins mixed, then waiting two block confirmations should be a problem. I say 2 confirmations not 2 hours, just wondering because 1 confirmations needed (to avoid RBF) or 6 confirmations (to ensure it's impossible to double spend) so why two. I guess they wanted to choose a number bigger than zero and small enough in order for the users to not complain. Perhaps, if they required 6 confirmation there would be questions about "why are 6 confirmations needed?". Same would have happened if they required 3 or, like in current case, 2 confirmations. It is what it is
Heading now to read the article as the current market of cryptos seems to be on a crossroad with price of Bitcoin trying to stabilize around 30k$ and that would be amazing as long as he can keep this position during the summer cycle. The title is also like a glove on the current market situation as the greed indicator is becoming bigger and bigger when there is not real motive for people to be greedy as Bitcoin doesn't seem to drop under 25k again or ever. ( my opinion ). I shared my opinion about BTC price since last year. And since then I keep saying that I believe its price will constantly grow, on the long term, as halving is coming. Considering that on Jan 3rd or so the price was 15.000$ and now it is greater than 30.000 I guess we are on the right path. Probably the closer we get to halving the bigger the price will be. ( Obviously, this is not a financial advice; it is only my opinion about BTC price in the future.) |
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How much is the fee for a $200 deal? If you would have read the OP, you could observe that there is no fee Although I feel there is no point, since you did not even care about reading the OP, I replied to your PM. By the way, there was no need to send me 3 PMs for asking same thing. |
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Following RickDeckard's initiative, I decided to translate this thread for Romanian board. The translated topic can be found here: [ANN] AgoraDesk.com | Cumpără ♻️ Vinde bitcoin anonim!. I guess it would be nice if other users would also translate this thread for their local boards and also if OP would add these translations to the main topic. What baffles me is the fact that, between September 2019 and April 2023 only 5 posts were made inside this topic. Since April this year, though, there are 4 pages of posts, which means that the project raised some interest. As a matter of fact I was talking recently to a friend and he also told me that he uses LocalMonero and AgoraDesk and that he is pleased by the services. |
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Autor: LocalMoneroTopic original: [ANN] AgoraDesk.com | Buy ♻️ Sell Bitcoins Anonymously!
AgoraDesk.com este o platformă P2P pentru tranzacționarea de bitcoin, care a fost creată de echipa din spatele proiectului LocalMonero.co. Pe lângă faptul că poate funcționa fără JavaScript, AgoraDesk oferă anonimitate și o utilizare simplă, nefiind nevoie de KYC sau de verificarea actului de identitate, neexistând nici vreun plan pentru a implementa astfel de procese iîn viitor. Sumar- Fără KYC / verificare a identității, portal Onion, portal I2P.
- Aplicații mobile pentru Android și iOS, cu cod cu sursă deschisă.
- Versiune a site-ului fără JavaScript (se încarcă în mod implicit la accesarea prin Tor sau I2P).
- Orice monedă, orice metodă de plată, oriunde.
- Tranzacții cu cash și online cu monero (la fel ca LocalMonero).
- Tranzacții cu cash și online cu bitcoin (la fel ca orice alt site de tip Local*).
- Funcționare la capacitate când Google este blocat de browser.
- Notificări pe mobil prin Telegram (pentru a primi notificări de tip push referitoare la tranzacții).
- Autentificare în 2 pași cu aplicații TOTP precum Google Authenticator sau andOTP.
- Program de afiliere – câstigă comisioane invitând alți utilizatori să tranzacționeze.
- Conturile, reputația și anunțurile / tranzacțiile cu XMR sunt complet partajate cu LocalMonero.
- O funcție API complet funcțională, similară funcției API de pe LocalBitcoins, asigură o migrare ușoară a boților de tranzacționare pe care îi dețineți.
- Mecanisme complexe pentru preț, prin intermediul utilizării de formule pentru prețuri și valori premium, facilitând nu doar tranzacții spot ci și opțiuni.
Cumpără bitcoin anonim
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| Pasul [1] | Creează un cont pe AgoraDesk. Accesează pagina principală – vei vedea ofertele principale pentru regiunea selectată pentru a fi implicită. Poți rafina rezultatele prin precizarea sumei și schimbarea monedei, a țării sau a metodei de plată sau selectând "All online offers" dacă nu știi sigur ce metodă de plată să folosești (selectează un anunț de la un comerciant care are realizat multe tranzacții și care are o reputație bună).
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| Pasul [2] | După ce apeși pe butonul "Buy", vei vizualiza mai multe informații despre anunț, inclusiv termenii în care se poate realiza tranzacția. Pentru a iniția tranzacția, precizează cât bitcoin dorești să achiziționezi și apasă butonul "Send trade request". Ți se vor afișa încă o dată termenii de tranzacționare, pe care trebuie să îi citești cu atenție din nou, apoi oferă-ți acordul apăsând butonul "Accept terms".
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| Pasul [3] | În noul meniu care este afișat - Settlement Fee Level – vei putea selecta comisionul pe care dorești să îl utilizezi pentru tranzacția ta. În funcție de cât de urgentă este, se pot alege trei niveluri ale comisionului (Rapid, Mediu sau Lent). Comisionul selectat poate ajunge să fie chiar și mai mic la momentul realizării tranzacției, dacă suma tranzacționată este foarte mică (această selecție se realizează în mod automat). Când ești satisfăcut de alegere, apasă pe butonul "Agree to terms and start trading".
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| Pasul [4] | Mai departe, ți se va solicita o adresă deportofel. Aceasta este adresa la care vei primi monedele achiziționate. Dacă nu deții un portofel personal de BTC, poți utiliza portofelul Electrum. Copiază adresa din portofel și lipește-o în câmpul "Receiving Bitcoin address" (asigură-te că adresa este aceeași cu cea pe care ai copiat-o, pentru a evita pierderea banilor). De reținut, portofelul utilizat pentru tranzacție trebuie să fie unul personal, cele create de terți nefiind permise. Odată realizate aceste măsuri, apasă pe "Start trading" pentru a iniția tranzacția.
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| Pasul [5] | O pagină de tranzacționare va fi deschisă în browser. Comunică cu comerciantul pentru a fi sigur că vânzătorul este pregătit să încaseze plata. Efectuează plata conform instrucțiunilor primite de la comerciant și imediat apasă pe butonul "I have paid". Astfel, vânzătorul va fi notificat că plata a fost realizată și se va evita situația ca vânzătorul să anuleze tranzacția.
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| Step [6] | După ce vânzătorul confirmă încasarea plății, va iniția tranzacția. Vei observa că statusul tranzacției s-a schimbat în "Processing". Din acest moment nu mai este nevoie să faci nimic – monedele îți vor fi transferate automat la adresa pe care ai furnizat-o. Aceasta va dura, de obicei, cam 10-60 minute.
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Avem un concurs nou! Avem re-editarea concursului in 2 pasi al Sinbad.io, cel cu ghicitul pretului Bitcoin: SINBAD.IO Mixer July Bitcoin Price Prediction ChallengeLink: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458769Organizator: SinBad.ioSe castiga: 5, 3 sau 2 mBTC (primele 3 locuri). Neaparat pana in 10 iulie vei scrie (o singura data) cat crezi ca va fi pretul Bitcoin (in $, CoinMarketCap) in 30 iulie la ora 10 GMT. Formatul este: Prediction 1: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address: Neaparat intre 11 si 20 iulie vei scrie (o singura data) cat crezi ca va fi pretul Bitcoin (in $, CoinMarketCap) in 30 iulie la ora 10 GMT. Formatul este: Prediction 2: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address: Cele mai bune 3 predictii vor fi premiate in bani (5, 3 respectiv 2 mBTC) Pentru a participa, un cont trebuie sa aiba cel putin 50 de postari inainte de 30 iunie. Nu este permisa/acceptata editarea predictiilor. Din pacate, in continuare nu scrie nimic de cei cu conturi multiple, din pacate nu scrie nimic despre suprapunerea predictiilor.
Ce-o fi, o fi Nici eu nu am urmarit pretul, sincer sa fiu. Oricum, si intr-un fel, si in celalalt, suntem amandoi castigatori, ceea ce mi se pare incredibil Dupa analiza organizatorului, tu esti cel care a luat premiul intai si eu cel care a luat locul 2. Felicitari inca o data amandurora |
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What shocks me is that someone has finally managed to make my username even longer and more complex, I would have bet that it was impossible before this message Is iwantmyhomepaidwithbaguette2 longer than ?  |
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Two new translations have been added to OP: Thank you again iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 for this great effort!
At same time, iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 reserved the French translation for all the the remaining available topics Oo I am very impressed by this effort since, so far, only cygan acted like a 1-man-army in translating all my topics So all I can say, excepting the fact that I am very impressed, is that I thank you again and again iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 for your interest! |
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Merci encore une fois iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 d’avoir traduit l’un de mes articles ! Je me sens honoré et tu as toute ma reconnaissance pour tes efforts ! Ce sujet est très spécial, parce qu'il montre comment Satoshi a réussi à changer l'ancien paradigme financier sans recourir à la violence. Je sais que certains utilisateurs ont ralé en disant que ce n'était pas une révolution ou que ce n'était pas la première révolution sans effusion de sang, mais ne débattons pas de la sémantique ici. Les écrivains utilisent généralement des métaphores ou d'autres figures de style lorsqu'ils écrivent. Alors prenez cet article comme un écrit philosophique si vous le voulez Et cet écrit philosophique est un hommage à Satoshi et à son travail ! |
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I am glad to inform you that our AoBT signatures are now available! Thank you for the good news Porf! And thank you jayce for this work you did for free! I also thank in advance to those which will wear these signatures!
I am supporting the application of the user " looking for buying a second palace with BTC" He already obtained the merit threshold for Hero rank with months before his activity will allow him and he is also a very good translator. He translated 5 of my topics in a very short amount of time, including 2 of the most difficult topics I have, and now he intends to translate also 10 more topics of mine. He did a great job and I am sure he would be a great addition to AOBT gang |
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I am also eager for this update as I would like to see my translation listed in OP This is just a thought but maybe, at same time, perhaps MixTum could write a line or two inside each translated topic? I think it would be a good suggestion for them, as users from various local boards could see they are involved also inside their boards. |
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I have read your OP and I feel you are suggesting it. The topic is nice feature or should it get banned?. Reading OP's title does not mean "reading the OP". Furthermore you quote a question without even reading it entirely. The entire question is " Should the option of self-moderated topics get banned as alleged by Unknown01 (see below) or should the option of self-moderation continue to be possible? ". In the end again on the pretext of asking a question you are suggesting it So, what's your opinion? Self-moderation to get banned or to stay? Stop suggesting and start questioning! Where is the suggestion here? From "So, what's your opinion?" I understand that 1miau is asking a question, not making any suggestion. Are you blind or just sig-spamming? I would not appreciate anyone coming on my self-moderated thread and start giving me advice about spam and lolololo. If you do not like it stay away from a self-moderated thread. There is enough spam happening on every board and thread that are not self-moderated. If you want to control every spam happening on any thread then just apply for a mod job here. To whom are you addressing here?
1miau, you should ignore this sig-spammer, as all he does is trying to look smart now, after being caught by you that he did not even read your topic and hurried to post for reaching his signature quota. |
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Thank you for another update, Coin-1! Once again, I present you my sincere appreciations for keeping this topic updated and I am certain that it makes many forum users feel so good seeing their names listed here
RickDeckard [...] earned a lot of merit and now own over 2000 merits.
FatFork [...] also crossed this threshold. This is making me smile, as I am glad to see 2 users, very valuable to the forum, reaching this astonishing mark! Great job, guys!
iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 [...] have been promoted to Hero Member. At same time, I would like to congratulate the one " looking for buying a second palace with BTC" for obtaining the merits for Hero rank way before reaching the required activity! Bravo!
AHOYBRAUSE [...] became Sr. Members. AHOYBRAUSE is another name I know from the ones listed in this update and I take this opportunity for congratulating him as well!
_oh_no_stop_this_, Who is John Galt? [...] have ranked up to Full Member. And last, but not least, I see also a name which got my attention recently and which also impressed me a lot -- Who is John Galt? -- and I have no surprise in seeing him ranking up Congrats, Who is John Galt! At same time I see another name which looks curious -- oh_no_stop_this_ I don't know anything about this user but, perhaps, he will be another nice surprise? Nevertheles, I also congratulate all the other ones mentioned here, which ranked up or just met the merit requirements for ranking up! Keep it up guys! May your path to Legendary rank be a smooth one! |
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