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1241  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 20, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
http://www.danieljensenlaw.com/articles/death-threats/

Issuing a death threat is not just irresponsible; it is also illegal and punishable by jail time. If you have been accused of sending a death threat, you should take those charges seriously.


In addition, the law does not distinguish between threats issued vocally and those in writing. Electronic communication makes no difference either, with an email having the same significance as a letter. The law does not take context into consideration, either. Even if not meant seriously, joke threats are still taken seriously by the law if the person receiving it feels threatened.
1242  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 20, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
wtf?  There was nothing criminal about what I said.  I was hoping he can run faster than a bullet because someone ELSE might not enjoy getting raped as much as the rest of us.  Get it?

And are you going to supply Ken's address to these people who might want to shoot him? You have his address right?

No, I don't. 

It's been on this forum several months ago when you were around - his home address.
And his business address is readily available. So you are claiming to know neither?

So what do you know about this company? You are the self-proclaimed expert on ACtM yet you don't know these basics. Do you think a judge would believe that because I don't.
1243  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 20, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
wtf?  There was nothing criminal about what I said.  I was hoping he can run faster than a bullet because someone ELSE might not enjoy getting raped as much as the rest of us.  Get it?

And are you going to supply Ken's address to these people who might want to shoot him? You have his address right?
1244  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 20, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/18/authorities-investigate-online-death-threats-against-ted-cruz/
1245  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 20, 2013, 07:50:09 PM
I DIG how all these noobs in here with join dates like July 2013 are so experienced with "manning up" about bitcoin related securities.

really puts the C in confidence...

It doesn't matter when I started posting. For you to look at that as in indicator in your confidence shows that you pay attention to all the wrong things. You can't whine, bitch, and moan when you don't get your way after you invested in a fortune 500 company. Why do you think this is any different? Because you used your precious bitcoin, it entitles you to constant updates from the CEO? Get out of here.

The CEO is online now, and has plenty of time to delete posts in this thread, his last post was agreeing with me that he probably wouldn't do any time.
Responding to real concerns?  No time 4 that.

that was disgusting of him actually.  he may not do time but can he run faster than a bullet?

1) It's not disgusting atall to delete a Troll post in a moderated thread. It's what moderated threads are for. You imbecile.

2) You just made a death threat against an individual who's home and business address is known to you. You had better contact a lawyer. You imbecile.
1246  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 08:20:16 PM
I would imagine he's talking about the constant headache supplied by those from ^above^.

I would say the remaining non-troll people here are generally pretty respectful. Asking for basic and general updates to our progress shouldn't be that much of a headache nor something unreasonable. Nor something so bad that makes him wish he could get out of the company. I hope he is talking about the complications with having to go to colored coins / and the temporary exchange and that when the going gets tough does not refer to our chip development.

Every time Ken comes on here he gets a few posts in then he starts getting slagged down by the trolls, VE, and the rest of the turn-coats. How would you feel being on the end of that constant personal attack?

Next we have the SEC and the exchange issue. Ken is no doubt under a lot of stress over that. He's seeing lawyers, worried about his personal freedom, trying to design a new exchange, will it be legal?

Next we have the unforseen huge increases in mining difficulty, which admittedly every mining firm has to deal with but it just makes margins that bit tighter.

It's absolutely no wonder he is feeling the strain. But you read what he said didn't you - he is manning up to this challenge. He has acted pro-actively with the exchange issue, and he is working his nuts off everyday to make this a success for us first and him second.

With the SEC crackdown and the difficulty rise you could say the shit has hit the fan. Its too late to issue a refund, all we have now is a website taking tens of thousands in orders, one of the most successful ASIC producers in the US making our chips and one determined mother F as CEO. We are nowhere near a crisis but Ken is the man you want at the helm right now. He is not going to let up, he is John McClane, he is pissed by the trolls, he is coming out fighting.

1247  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 02:28:47 PM
Because they are Drama Queens. Every last one of them.
1248  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 01:32:53 PM
Can you please explain, in simple words, how this will operate as a money grab?
Because to get out of BitFunder (which you have to do if you are based in the US), you cannot transfer shares, you have to sell on BitFunder, then buy (higher) on Cryptostocks. And then kslaughter also takes an extra fee on trades!

Ok well that has nothing to do with my post because my post said you will pay exactly  what you sold for and not more didn't it?

There is no way in hell that ken is trying to rip people off because of the SEC crack down. Please now quote ken where he says US holders will lose out.
1249  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
They are obviously not new shares ken said the 10mill public issue is not changing. And again obviously, actm will buy on BF at 0.001 and these shares will then be destroyed and replaced by the ones on CS.
Please someone tell me this isn't true. If true, this is a quick money grab from US-based investors, forcing them to sell low and buy high.

Can you please explain, in simple words, how this will operate as a money grab?
1250  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 12:01:29 PM
Whose shares are on sale exactly on Cryptostocks? New shares? People who paid $5000 to transfer?

Also, you should know that the issuer chose to receive 0.2% of additional fees - disallowing transfer directly benefits kslaughter.

They are obviously not new shares ken said the 10mill public issue is not changing. And again obviously, actm will buy on BF at 0.001 and these shares will then be destroyed and replaced by the ones on CS.

As for the 0.2% fee you will need to ask ken what if will do with the couple of btc he might make from that. Maybe its to cover CS fees?
1251  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
I don't think Ken is expecting anyone to sell at a loss. To save him spending another four or five days manually transfering shares across he is suggesting you sell at 0.001 on BF then buy back on cryptostocks for the same price. Obviously price has moved away from 0.0001 now so don't try that just yet. We still have plenty of time so if price on BF doesn't come back up to the cryptostocks level then ken will drop the price on CS to make the swap do able with no loss. Seriously guys you are acting like a bunch of women.
1252  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 08:47:03 AM
One more thing, and this is crucial. Ken will get nothing out of all of this work until we are paid back ipo price of 0.0025 on each share. Think about that and think about how that must motivate him. I'm sure he has as big plans as we do for our profits from this enterprise but he will be the last to be paid. So it's obvious he will be putting everything he has into this. He is a super clever and canny businessman. That really is all you need to know. The rest is a waiting game. We will hit the hashing when we are ready simple as, if you get no reply to a question, consider the answer to be commercially sensitive.
1253  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 19, 2013, 08:03:23 AM
+1

The thing is most people here are from the 'I want it now' generation. They have no patience and clearly no manners.

How many companies have crashed and burned in this industry? A high percentage. You lot are invested in one of very few that is not underperforming or behind schedule due to its own failings. We are progressing as promised. Ken is dealing with outside circumstances as they happen with a can-do attitude. If you have some questions ask them sensibly. If you get no reply, deal with it.
1254  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 05:43:34 PM


"I don't know what you said, so I will assume you said what I feel like arguing with."? If you can't follow the conversation, wouldn't it be prudent to lurk moar?

Misunderstandings do happen. We can't all be perfect like you.
1255  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
minerpart seems confused about the meaning of "=/="
Not everyone finished elementary school math I guess.



Minerpart, it means "does not equal"

You are right. Ive never seen =/= before. So we were saying the same thing sorry kleeck. I googled =/= and nothing came up so I assumed you were meaning 'is equal to'. Maybe not using something as obscure as '=/=' is a good idea on a general forum? Visually it is far removed from the actuall 'does not equal' symbol that is clearly recognizeable.
1256  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
omfg. What were are saying is very very different.
1257  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
I've had the ponzi argument via public forum on multiple occasions. It comes down to people not knowing what a ponzi scheme is. Early adopters profiting more than late comers =/= ponzi scheme.

100% incorrect, quite ironically.

What about this is incorrect?

In a Ponzi early investors may profit but usually they just think they are profiting as they are paid unrealistic amounts of interest on their investment - that is to attract in more victims. The late comers lose everything (early investors may lose 80% or more) as the scam is run down. Its not about late comers getting a smaller slice of a pie, all of their money is taken and they see none of it back.
1258  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
I've had the ponzi argument via public forum on multiple occasions. It comes down to people not knowing what a ponzi scheme is. Early adopters profiting more than late comers =/= ponzi scheme.

100% incorrect, quite ironically.
1259  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 12:09:24 PM
I think that's being just a bit complacent. It's the first mention of VMC on Bloomberg as far as I know, it's their latest BTC 'big splash', it directly quotes our CEO, it clearly sets out the competition to VMC.

Any serious investor in tradtitional markets who is now interested in BTC and BTC mining would likely read this article. There are only 7 comments, three are substantive and of interest, and one was accusing VMC of being a scam. That post was a serious threat. That is why it was written.




1260  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 15, 2013, 11:48:59 AM
It's just been removed.

That was a quick result but people this is the danger when you humour or respond to Trolls on here. We know who we are talking about, the more you talk to them the bigger their interest in this company and the more likely they are to follow our interests outside of this forum.

That single 'scammer alert' post on Bloomberg could have cost ACtM 500k in orders possible a lot more. That's because that sort or article opens the door to a whole new set of very wealthy investors who have so far not delved into the BTC market. When they see 4 companies selling mining machines and just one of them is slated in the comments as scammers with a host of invented 'red flags' mentioned the investors won't even visit the VMC website - they will go straight to the competition.

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