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1421  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Aricie: Announcing a new trading bots platform on: July 29, 2011, 01:26:15 AM
i set it up and left all the default values alone....looks like it has trades set up....ill let you guys know how it goes Smiley
1422  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Aricie: Announcing a new trading bots platform on: July 29, 2011, 12:03:17 AM
it looks complex, but if i can figure out how to use it, ill be the guinea pig...
1423  Other / Off-topic / best headline ever on: July 28, 2011, 11:40:30 PM
crime in VA is strange:

Beware! Serial Butt Slasher On The Loose In Virginia!
http://newsone.com/nation/wacky-news-nation/ggaynor/serial-butt-slasher-virginia/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/serial-butt-slasher-pursued-in-virginia_n_911480.html

but in all seriousness....butt slashing is wrong, kids.


1424  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where exactly can you use bitcoins? on: July 28, 2011, 11:18:35 PM
there is a job board where people offer goods and services for btc:
http://www.forbitcoin.com/

1425  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a small loan on: July 28, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21732.0 <---look into IBB, they may do a loan...not sure how they work, but id try to contact them.
1426  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin-Kamikaze.com [Win bitcoins or earn them with affilate program] on: July 28, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
There is a new leader in "top 5 users" table. He won 11.8 at current moment! his ID is #40346! Congratulations! Smiley

good for him!

fun game..... i lost 3 btc quickly and decided to stop, lol  Shocked (ill still do free play, though...i seem to do better without money on the line)




my referral link (help feed the beast):  Grin

http://bitcoin-kamikaze.com/?father=40427
1427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where do you fall on the political compass? on: July 28, 2011, 05:13:14 AM
Well, this one is also a little biased, but at least it's not biased left/right:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz

i got 80/30; pretty much the center of the liberal section
1428  Other / Politics & Society / Where do you fall on the political compass? on: July 27, 2011, 07:02:30 PM


take the test here: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test






 


my results:

1429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The revolution is funded by bitcoin on: July 24, 2011, 07:25:40 AM
i think lulzsec is playing with fire. thier antics were cute and funny at first, but i think they are paving the way for an internet crackdown...i think they will be propped up as examples of why the government should censor the internet.

as for how itll affect btc, who knows? on one hand, its decent publicity...on the other, it may encourage a crackdown on btc...

I read an article recently that was arguing against the notion that Anonymous & LulzSec should be condemned because govt will use it as a pre-text for a more draconian internet. I think it was on Lewrockwell.com. I'll post it when I find it.

please do
1430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The revolution is funded by bitcoin on: July 24, 2011, 07:24:48 AM


Do you really think we're at that point?  Do governments and corporations really have that much power?

Seems to me we'd need a much bigger and more urgent pretext than Lulzsec and Wikileaks.  We'd need something on the scale of Pearl Harbor to justify an internet police state.


i hope your right. i dont think you are, but i hope you are.

personally, i think governments across the world would love to impose china level internet censorship...free information and communtication is a dangerous thing.  it wont take much evidence (in my country at least) to convince the sheeple to give up those rights....just look at the patriot act....
1431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 23, 2011, 07:14:55 AM
Anarchist are atheist and they do terrorism as well, so it is not about religion or atheism, but about fanatism of religion, politics, sports... However, that fanatism doesnt make be all those things to be bad.

I can say that atheism is dangerous, thanks to Gavrilo Princip, which was the man how boom the first world war. But I dont, because i am not like you and yours (trolls)

Does that make atheism bad? No. In the same way, you should not judge religion about that. Thats inmature, but I know you are a troll, so I dont care about you and you stupid casino.

somebody of faith commiting an atrocious act is different than someone commiting an atrocious act int the name of thier faith.

furthermore, someone who happens to be athiest commiting a horrible act of violence is not the same as a person who commits a horrible act of violence in the name of athiesm. (youd be hard pressed to find the latter)


however,  plenty of horrible acts have and continue to be commited in the name of religion.  didnt oslo, norway just get attacked?

terrorist attacks occur daily  across the globe in the name of allah... the uk and the us (including embassys, military units, and bases) are attacked constantly.  extremist muslim groups in the phillipenes, middle east, and elsewhere continue to be a very serious threat.   

 in the us, radical christian groups  have been known to bomb abortion clinics and/or murder employees...not to mention the witch hunts, the inquisition, the crusades, etc.....all atrocities in the name of the christian god

the isreal and pakistan have killed countless amounts of each others people over "the holy land"

....and dont even get me started on the catholics....for fucks sake, the current pope was a member of the hitler youth!!!!!!!....  here we have an entire organization that OPENLY protects pedophiles.  you have trusted members of the church raping children, and their only punishment is getting shifted to another church while the victim and thier family is threatened with excommunication if they dont remain silent.

and honestly this is the tip of the iceburg.....i could go on for quite a while (seriously, we've barely touched the surface of religions crimes against humanity)......








1432  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hire a contract killer here on: July 22, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
there is a tor message board  that is supposedly a hitman classifieds/work for hire sort of thing....most of the post are obvious jokes, but a few of the people on there claim to be serious.   

1433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:18:26 PM

 Cheesy. This wasn't my example. The resistance to antibiotics was offered as an example of evolution a few dozen posts back.







no?    

just quit while you are behind man......you cant even remember your own arguments now. Cheesy  that example was your attempt to prove inherent antibiotic resistance (as opposed to it occurring through mutation......you know, reality).



How far back do you want to go?

Q How does antibiotic resistance come about?

A This is a natural phenomenon and has been around as long as bacteria. Bacteria isolated from a glacier formed long before the discovery and use of antibiotics have been found to be resistant to some modern antibiotics. A certain level of inherent bacterial resistance to antibiotics must therefore be expected but surviving bacteria will be those that are of low sensitivity or are resistant.


http://www.noah.co.uk/issues/briefingdoc/11-abres.htm

1434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 06:10:29 AM


There's no evidence of that. I could just as easily hypothesize that the resistance was inherent. It is as valid a hypothesis as yours.



youre right, it certainly is; we both have a valid hypothesis on whether the bacterias resistance was inherent, with no empirical evidence to back it up either way.

your hypothesis (or mine) is proof of nothing....i would say that more data needs to be gathered before a solid conclusion can be reached.

 so we agree then that your example was worthless? that it doesnt show proof of inherent resistance?
1435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:55:17 AM

and where do you think the subpopulations come from? previous mutations.

How far back do you want to go?

Q How does antibiotic resistance come about?

A This is a natural phenomenon and has been around as long as bacteria. Bacteria isolated from a glacier formed long before the discovery and use of antibiotics have been found to be resistant to some modern antibiotics. A certain level of inherent bacterial resistance to antibiotics must therefore be expected but surviving bacteria will be those that are of low sensitivity or are resistant.


http://www.noah.co.uk/issues/briefingdoc/11-abres.htm


the mutation that gave it that resistance came first. that resistance is likely tied to a gene that has another function (protien moonlighting).
1436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:40:15 AM

Note the heavy use of the words "mutant," "mutated," and "developed" in that article. Thanks for proving our point.

You clearly didn't.

"A subpopulation of resistant bacteria often exists. "



and where do you think the subpopulations come from? previous mutations.

"resistance development is very much dependent on mutations"
1437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
A small percentage of the staph are naturally resistant to any antibiotic,

any antibiotic? you believe this?

bullshit. you are going to have to back that one up.

 there is no population of staph that is inherently resistant to ALL antibiotics. resistance comes from mutation and natural selection.


http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/45/Supplement_2/S129.full



did you even attempt to read it?   Cheesy



"The fact that the choice of dose and treatment duration can affect the selection of antibiotic-resistant mutants is becoming more evident
Grin
1438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:33:30 AM

So you accept Evolution finally? Because that is EXACTLY the mechanism. Genetic variation produces small portions of the population which will do better than the rest when exposed to negative environmental factors. Thank you, we're done here.

Evolution is a slow gradual process, taking billions of years. * **

*EXCEPT FOR STAPH BACTERIA.
** EXCEPT WHEN ITS NOT


yes the changing of an organism on a small scale can occur quick (particularly in simple organisms). but larger scale changes like that from a single cell creature to a multicell creature takes much more time. its take millions of years to get to this point, but many small changes occur constantly.
1439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:26:35 AM
A small percentage of the staph are naturally resistant to any antibiotic,

any antibiotic? you believe this?

bullshit. you are going to have to back that one up.

 there is no population of staph that is inherently resistant to ALL antibiotics. resistance comes from mutation and natural selection.

1440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a plague on: July 22, 2011, 05:13:46 AM
information certainly can be added during a mutation...

chromosomes may be added (such as in the case of down syndrome)
dna sequences may be added (over-replicate) or may be missing (dna insertion and deletion) 
dna sequences can arrange differently than they normally do (expression)
or there may be simple errors at single/multiple points of the sequence (point/frame shift)


None of these examples are new added information!

Down's syndrome happens due to an added copy of a chromosome. Its not new data. Its redundant.
The other examples are not useful new data. Its corrupted garbage.

any of these occurring in an organism can make drastic changes (but not necessarily so). some of these changes may be beneficial, some detrimental, some neutral. how these changes affect the organisms ability to survive and reproduce determines whether the mutation will be passed on. 

this is the driving force behind evolution.

None of these DNA changes you describe ever result in beneficial evolution.





no? genetic mutation in staph bacteria allowed it to become resistant to the antibiotics we used to use to kill it. we started using different antibiotics...which worked for a while until another mutation occurred that allowed the new strain to survive....and so on an so on....new strains of bacteria forming that are resistant to the drugs and sterilization agents we use to kill their predecessors.


how do you think new strains of antibiotic resistant bacteria occur? 

mutations through natural selection drive evolution.
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