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1121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 11:33:53 PM
6:30PM EST




Same thing occurred last Saturday - someone desperately dumping LTC for BTC with the hopes of getting into the LTC/BTC ride up. Unfortunately then those orchestrating this are dumping BTC at market rate to drop BTC/LTC. Perhaps their setup buy orders in waiting as they are trying to unload their LTC for the next wave up. So when you see LTC being dumped for BTC don't be alarmed to see the BTC/USD price go up high.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 11:20:28 PM
BTC sold for LTC and then BTC/USD pushed down while LTC/USD is still same price.
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When you see LTC being sold for BTC expect to see BTC/USD to go up.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 06:20:50 PM
Some one is buying LTC with BTC...

Pro Tip buy and sell slowly as the "bots" will bring it LTC/BTC back to manageable targets.




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1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 05:55:27 PM
Everything is going according to plan...




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Although we had some minor Deviation from the core model.
Sure Smiley Shrug off and ignore reality to suit your argument. Works every time... Or does it.

That period was the adoption / adaption of new tech from GPU to FPGA and halfing of reward and then ASIC and next halfing? I wonder if pumping trash coins in hopes of exchanging them for BTC and margin trading with cooked up BTC on "questionalble" exchange practices has anything to do with this drop?
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 05:51:59 PM
it will fall like a rock.


BTC/LTC yes as people rush to dump LTC for BTC before the BTC/USD rise.


1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
I'd rather watch water boil than look at these bitcoin charts right now. It's a shame to all the ponzies conducted in the past.

Don't worry  Grin Some people like that stuff I liken it to going camping in winter.

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LTC/BTC BTC-e & LTC/CNY OKCoin


OKCoin BTC/CNY & Huobi BTC/CNY



Some here don't want it going up.
1127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 02:44:27 PM
We are getting downward  movement on LTC/BTC may be a little early if we break 0.0083 then we will get a BTC/USD rise.

SO pay attention to that volume.
1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
calling your coins precious when the price is struggling to hold above 230 $ is wrong and a clear sell signal.

Just putting this here.


1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 05:46:36 AM
Not much has changed in the last 12+ hours. Ltc/BTC
2015-30-1


Not much has changed in the last 12+ hours. LTC/BTC
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1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 03:09:42 PM


On btc-e 1200LTC/BTC trade was made the BTC was then sold at market rate and the usd was shorly used to bbuy 1200 ltc and keep the ltc/usd value the same.



I've got one major problem with this theory ... 1200 LTC is like 10BTC ... 'dumping' 10 BTC would have no impact on price whatsoever so your graphs make no sense to me.

Correlation /= causation

That is when BTC is sold for LTC.

Huge difference and its split between BTC/USD LTC/USD



1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Nice thing with capitalism, you don't have to understand it to be a part of it. Not using, holding holds the value up.

Holding by itself does not hold the value up.  You need people who are willing to increase their holdings by buying some of it.  The price will not stay up if they don't agree with it.

the real issue is Altcoins being pushed as if they are = to BTC and people are biting.

All this does is serve as a gateway to bleed the block chain of its value.
1132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
If your going to enter it first figure out what the "manipulators " bot target rate is do not buy or sell more then its set to as it will just get replaced.

Their are active traders and then their is a bot working to unload ltc for btc until the target is met before the next run up on BTC/USD to liquidate.

Ultimately selling LTC at a higher BTC rate.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 02:43:59 PM
Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Oay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. Its higher than the buy expect to see BTC//USD go up.

your theory don't make any sense, I saw your previous posts and I still don't really get it, I think it is just a conspiracy theory you have there....

I think it makes sense. So take a look at what's been going on @ BTC-E for the last section of time.

Right now:
1) they are Dumping bitcoin for litecoin. This is decreasing the cost of bitcoin and raising the cost of litecoin.
2) they are then selling litecoin for usd.
3) then they can buy bitcoin w/ usd, cheaper than what it was previously being sold at.

The inverse also happens when pumping bitcoin to increase litecoin holdings. It's a nice little triangluar pattern that they've been doing since the last bubble.
That combined with the massive amount of shorts has allowed market makers to increase holdings/profits while keeping others suppressed. IMHO

What's even sicker is the trades seem to happen near instantaneously between ltc/btc and ltc/usd, which as Sitarow suggests, keeps value at equilibrium.
I just wish I could understand it a little bit better to try and play the swings.



The task is to inform so they don't get caught of guard.

DO not trade with leverage and watch your bots.

OKCoin 945AM EST LTC/CNY


BTC-e LTC/BTC


BTC-e LTC/USD


BTC-e BTC/USD
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 02:22:06 PM
Gentlemen, what are you doing to my Bitcoin?



Angry

On btc-e 1200LTC/BTC trade was made the BTC was then sold at market rate and the usd was shorly used to bbuy 1200 ltc and keep the ltc/usd value the same.







Some one is attempting to encourage LTC/BTC price rise just like last weekend and before the pump move LTC/BTC lower by selling LTC for BTC and finaly push BTC/USD up for the dump at their targeted price.

1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Pay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. If ltc sell volume vs btc is higher then expect to see BTC/USD sell pressure volume to reverse and value go up.

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1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 01:49:24 PM
Wow some unknown contact from BTCe that I pm with the other night just asked if I had 50 BTC for sell at $250?

Something is odd about the present price.

Of course I am not replying.

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Hi someone need 50 bitcoin of blockchain @ rate of 250$ per btc if you have than contact me

Be gready when other's are scared.

Pay attention to LTC/BTC moves.

50 bitcoin of blockchain?

No reason to sell at that price since you risk not getting your money and by the time you get the money the price will have probably popped over $250 a few times.

That is the reality of the situation as I see it.
1137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Loses 1,000 BTC on: January 30, 2015, 01:44:23 PM
Who says they had them to begin with? Anyone claiming to have coins that cant prove it on the blockchain is a scammer and that applies to all major exchanges. If they can't prove their reserves exist then they can't be trusted, there are several methods of doing that and they've been around for a long time so if they aren't using them they're hiding something.

One example:
https://exchange.coinport.com/coin/BTC

Kraken and others use Gregory Maxwells merkle tree approach but their last audits are months out of date.

Exactly.
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Wow some unknown contact from BTCe that I pm with the other night just asked if I had 50 BTC for sell at $250?

Something is odd about the present price.

Of course I am not replying.

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Hi someone need 50 bitcoin of blockchain @ rate of 250$ per btc if you have than contact me

Be gready when other's are scared.

Pay attention to LTC/BTC moves.
1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 10:24:59 AM
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1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
do you guys think, now a good time to short?

DO not trade with leverage.

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Notice the BTC/LTC rise while BTC/USD drops and LTC/USD stays?



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