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401  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: July 23, 2016, 05:07:32 PM
The bitcoin price from the past, now and then is really unpredictable. No one can tell what would be its value and that is fact, all we can do is to expect. I do hope the development of BTC in the future especially on 2020 and so on would be better than now.

The price was always unpredictable and it will be unpredictable but if you are thinking about bitcoin going mainstream, there is 1 thing clear.
650 is not the real price for bitcoin.
402  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think the price will rise again above $400 on: July 23, 2016, 05:04:03 PM
The price has a very stable support around 600 dollar, so i don't see it going down to 550 or even 500.
Also because it will be hard for the miners.
403  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: July 23, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
At this point I hold not enough bitcoin, i did spend too many before the pump, which makes my total just 18. I hope to get more by trading, so when a new pump will come i have enough to sell and buy something nice for myself.
404  Other / Archival / Re: Where you get Bitcoin ? on: July 23, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
Faucet ? Cloud Mining ? Mining ? HYIP ? Any more ?

Faucets are a waste of time, cloud mining is a waste of money and to mine on their own, these days, the costs are too high.
The solution is to buy BTCs and find other investments in the Crypto Space.
I would not recommend to use a faucet too. They are too time consuming and you don't get enough back from it.
Especially if you think about the many faucets that are out there to scam us.
405  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best trading places on: July 23, 2016, 04:48:38 PM
Hey people,

I'm looking for a plateform to trade on btc. I currently hold some coins in exchange, but that's rather different cause you can only buy or sell btc here. There is no possibility of leverage for example.

I don't really know a lot about the different possible website, but I know that lot of trading plateform have... Dubious method or security. So I'd like to have the opinion of some of view before trying it.

Thanks in advance!
Hey bro, you can try the new exchange platform Deribit.com , lowest fee ever compare to any other exchange platform. Trading Fees 0.01% if you buy any order,and  0.00% fee if you make any sell order. since you said you hold some coin so i can guess you want to sell/exchange your coin.join now Deribit.com and make your sell order with 00% fees

Local bitcoin is not my preferred exchange site too. It cost too much time to get your coins.
If you are familiar with kraken then you know it's the most easiest way to get bitcoins without any risk.
406  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: July 23, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
The one positive aspect of this whole mess is knowledge, that after huge scam like HashOcean collapsed, it will be very hard to establish successful Ponzi again.
People are greedy but they will learn on past mistakes. I've already seen couple new "cloud mining" services but they are highly unpopular as people realized that CM is BS.

That had already happen actually. history can really still repeat itself because users don't get to learn, don't even think about how it could turn out and all they want ti easy money. Worse is that most users who got scammed are mostly those who needed money the most.

I was very surprised they got even 700k accounts, for some reason all those warning on these forum did not make them realize it was a scam to happen.
So sad to see so much money gone to scammers.
407  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do I make money with $100 USD BTC on: July 23, 2016, 04:34:43 PM
Buy yourself a raspberry pi 3 for 50$. Build a webhosting service. Sell hosting for cheap prices. If everything goes well you can buy another and grow your business. When you make another 50$, you can buy third one and so on. You will be the Donald Trump of webhosting in no time Smiley

A rapsberry pi is great for monitoring tools but in no way is it good for hosting a website. Even a plan HTML website will load very slow
Since the pi memory is just 512, running the OS is taking all those resources.
408  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: July 23, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
There are a lot of way for grow BTC, but trading and investing in gambing site are the best

Trading is the only solid option. I will never invest in a gambling site. It's the same as investing as in a cloud mining operation.
Every day you need to be worried if they are still there.
409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 23, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
Gambling for fun Smiley
Not recomendd to Making profit from gambling


of course, gambling is quite fun. because we can channel our hobby in the game and it also test the skill that we have in doing the game. Gambling special pleasure, if Additionally then gambling will give homage to a very dangerous (addiction)

Most people say they play for fun, but they really play for profit. If you play for fun why not play a computer game, because that's cheaper.
But no they play for money and will not admit it.
410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future? on: July 23, 2016, 04:21:26 PM
You are free to think whatever you want, but if you think that bitcoin don't have a future, please send all your bitcoin to me and I am willing to pay $680 per bitcoin.

I trust that holding bitcoin is also an investment and that is what exactly I am going to do with it. Hold more and more bitcoin to make few of my dreams come true.

Yeah if you don't believe in bitcoin then what are you doing here. We all believe in the concept of bitcoin.
Being the leader in online transactions some day.
411  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC to 5000$ soon on: July 21, 2016, 08:50:32 PM
I really hope that the price can soon be that high bit we know that it is going to take some time before the price will be that high.
The thing with Bitcoin is that everything takes time.
I think everyone also hopes that the price of bitcoin will rise high, even up to $ 5000 price, but if you look at the fact, I think it will not happen in the near future. Well, during the bitcoin is very difficult to achieve a price of $ 1000, I think waiting for the price of $ 5000, it will probably take about 5 or 6 years

To reach new highs we first need to pass 700, and the moment we pass 1k, then it is time to think of 2k.
Right now it is time to focus on bitcoin growing and growing...
412  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: July 21, 2016, 08:45:20 PM
i think If all governments accept bitcoin can be an alternative currency then surely price will go sky rocket but it looks like that is quite difficult to happen in near to long term range. Mostly all big institutions will not allow that to happen.
Lol I think it is impossible if the government did legalization in bitcoin. accept bitcoin tantamount to suicide or killing their own currency. because if they accept bitcoin bitcoin course will grow very rapidly from the local currency. and may have the possibility to take over their own local currency

The banks have been showing interest in Bitcoin for a while, but they still haven't figured out how it fully works, otherwise they wouldn't be constantly separating the blockchain from bitcoin every single time so don't feel about government. The people that write those news are even more clueless, so what you end up is with a piece of news that is giving the impresion to clueless readers that Bitcoin is some geeky internet crap while the blockchain is awesome.

Banks are like snakes. On one hand they are attacking bitcoin openly, but silently they are working on
The problem is banks have money and they have a good lobby with many governments
413  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: July 21, 2016, 08:41:14 PM

Bitcoin my opinion, I use it for extra income and it was enough to meet the needs of approximately one month. I am a month can produce about 0.08btc of bitcoin and I think it was passable.

In a month, I get about 0.20BTC and it doesn't seem to be small to me. It's passable too, I guess since it's only a side job for me.
Although I'm planning to move my main job to bitcoins as well. I'm practically going to be doing the same thing, only that I'll be paid in bitcoins rather than in cash. Probably.
but i think o.2 is not such a reasonable amount to be trust on it for living. i think we cannot depend on bitcoin for living in present time. may be in future it will be comparely good for living but i think in present time we cannot depend on it for living.

With 0.2 live in western countries will be very hard. Even impossible to survive.
If you want to earn your living with bitcoin the best you can do is to make sure to be able to survive with 3 solid months without income.
414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: July 21, 2016, 08:37:33 PM
for instances i turned to be a btc holder a bit insted of gambling much and you can do by % leave only 5% for gambling and only into btc

Gambling is hard, very hard, so even if you are a pro you will find you are losing and losing big bets are terrible.
To stop, when addicted is very important.
415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise? on: July 21, 2016, 08:33:38 PM
The bitcoin price will rise in the next 6 to 12 months. But the price should have some consolidation now.
i think we will not have to wait that much in the future, in my opinion we will be able to make money in like 2 months

The bitcoin price will be volatile in the short term. But it will rise in the long term like it did in the past few years.

Why the short term, the bitcoin price has been volatile since the beginning, i see no reason that this will change anytime soon.
As long we have whales expect volatility.
416  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 21, 2016, 08:21:42 PM
Invest some in assured returns plans. Also you could invest in bitcoins because of its growth potential. Gold investment needs a good amount of money and time to return a good revenue. I think that bitcoin investments will result in a faster nice return soon.

Investing is getting the max out of your potential, by saving you don't get to use your potential and it is more a kind of standing still.
Your money not moving is losing income..
417  Economy / Speculation / Re: How it will go to $0 again? on: July 21, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
How will it happen?


Will it just suddenly one day drop to $0?  Or will be a slow painful bear market finishing near $0 but never quite reaching at?  Some believers will never sell no matter what price ??


What do you guys think?

Put your chin up, if bitcoin drop (shut down) to $0 then what's the meaning of bitcoin? No trade, no nothing. There is no reason to sell at $0 lol, I think that it is not possible, bitcoin price can go lower but not so much as $0, what will earn miners besides the bitcoin which worth nothing?

The price going to 0 dollar would mean something really bad is going on. And no I don't expect such a thing.
Bitcoin is, at least for a couple of decades, here to flourish.
418  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will be stable in 2020 on: July 21, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
I do not know if the Bitcoin is going to be stable in 2020 I think so but not for a long time, every year the price is stable for some time.
So I do think that it is going to be stable for a little bit.

2020 seems a long time ahead, but still I don't think we will see stability. The whales have a big role in the price and they won't let it go so easily.
419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: July 21, 2016, 08:08:30 PM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?

If you must ask to stop then maybe it already is too late. xP

You need to put limits on you money so you can see how much money you can spend every day or every week.
If you manage to do this then you know when it is enough.

Maybe it would be better to put a limit on your bets, lets say you kept a limit in your mind for winnings or losings like 0.01 and if you lost 0.01 then you will stop betting and even if you win 0.01 you also stop betting to make yourself safe from losing all again.

It is true. It is not as easy to do this. The temptation is great and the chase can happen on losses for desperation. Hard to stop.Maybe in some time this can work with disopline.

Limits work fine with me. If you have no discipline it's better to not gamble at all. In the end you will see you need both.
Discipline and the will to stop.
420  Economy / Speculation / Re: 400 will not hold on: July 21, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
The bitcoin price almost doubled in the last 12 months. So it will need some more time to correct the price.

I think the bitcoin price will trade around the 650 dollars level for some time, then it will jump to $900 to 1000.

To see the price of $900 I think we need to wait for a long time as its not easy to reach there very easily as we are still below $700 level so it will definitely take some time to achieve it.

I don't see it happening such a large increase to 800 or even 900 dollar will happen.
At the moment it seems we are stuck at 650 dollar
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