1) Elections won't affect NLG, the parties most likely to get into control are the same established parties as in the last decade.
2) Comparing to the situation with AUR... this is like comparing apples to elephants.
3) I'm currently not touching NLG with a 5 foot pole...
4) ... which brings me to market psychology... what's going on here. Not traders, manipulators, or otherwise... just the lack of people willing to buy.
5) Not going up anytime soon.

It's between me and those pussies. If they push me over the edge here, I'd do it.

If you must know, get on their slack and probe around and ask why their publicity materials don't match with reality. You'd be insulted and kicked out before long.

Gulden is designed for the Netherlands and I'm not scare about supply or premine issue. It was a nice pump last year and the upcoming elections could push the price up similarly as it happened with Aurora coin during the elections in Iceland. In my opinion Gulden is good as for speculation (trading) as well as for usage (if you're living in the Netherlands).

Well, I guess I'm going to be flamed at for showing up here again... but what the heck.

Can you point me to the thread or whatever where the discussion took place about abandoning the airdrop? Or was it really just a unilateral decision ex post facto?

HOW TO ADD THESE SETTINGS TO MY WALLET

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I agree with you: exchanges as they are now, actually "nullify" crypto's reason of existence.   You don't own crypto tokens on an exchange, you own exchange IOU, in the same way that you don't own FED dollars when you have a bank account, but you own bank IOU.  That is, your entitlement to the "promised backing" is just as good as the honesty and the solidity of the entity that made you believe so (the exchange, or the bank).  If you own bitcoin IOU on an exchange, the only thing you own is a promise, you don't own bitcoin.

Now, a priori, exchanges are a necessary evil to "link" to fiat.  But the idea was that you only went to an exchange *temporarily* to buy some coin IOU, and withdraw them immediately to use them on the block chain for goods and services.  At some points, it might have been necessary to do the inverse, and sell bitcoins on an exchange to get, and withdraw immediately, some fiat, because the economy in crypto isn't closed.

But all this went to hell when people started trading, and when this trading became the essence of the crypto volume and market cap.  At that point, most "transactions" were trading transactions of *exchange IOU* and not of *crypto tokens*.  When that point is reached, we are actually having a new "banking system" we wanted to get rid off, but which are called "exchanges" and which are much less regulated, much more scammy, and just as prone to investigations and privacy breaks as the old banking system, except that you kill the original idea of crypto with it.

If there are only a few points where you can BUY a crypto to withdraw it and to USE it, that's not much of a problem.  And if this is a centralized TRADING point, then you're in any case out of the spirit of crypto.

Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af.

Can anyone explain when and why NLG decided to cancel the airdrop and use the 10% premine as dev slushfund? I got into it a bit with their (only?) developer here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495990.msg17234710#msg17234710
because he called digibyte a scam, and I pointed out that NLG has a much larger premine. After calling me a troll, his response included this:


What exactly is a 10% premine that is currently (several years after launch) around 40% of available supply that was supposed to be distributed to the Dutch citizenry and is now just for whatever Gulden devs feel like if not a claim that wasn't true, a promise that wasn't delivered on, something dishonest if not fraudulent. Honestly, I don't really give two fucks (maybe one), but it's just ridiculous to see this circle-jerk about technical superiority and advanced features when all that is done is bitcoin updates, a diff adjustment algorithm, and a closed source mobile wallet. Boontje komt om zijn loontje.

Disclaimer - I don't own any DGB or NLG.

Satoshi announced the launch months ahead of time. Just because no one gave a fuck but him and Hal Finney for a while does not mean there is a premine. Gulden has a 10% premine (currently I think about 50% of available supply) that was supposed to be for an airdrop to people from some country, but then devs decided to not do that so they're currently sitting on half of available supply.

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We no longer release the source for mobile wallets for now, the source for desktop wallets will continue to remain on Github as it has always been.

I'm personally a huge fan of open source in my private capacity and generally default to wanting to open source everything - but nothing is ever the right solution in all circumstances, it is wrong to just do things without first thinking about them, in this case after careful consideration we have realised that applying open source here just for the sake of it would not be the correct thing to do.

Reasons are multiple, I'm not going to go into all the details but in short we don't feel that anyone compiles mobile wallets anyway or that any of our actual mobile users are ever going to read the source code and that basically there is very little benefit to any of our mobile users from the code being open.
At the same time having this code open helps to prop up this toxic scam system that is the current "crypto community" and we don't want to be a part of that, as you can see (if you read a few posts above this, or anywhere in the last few pages of this topic) we endure constant attacks from various people within this toxic community whose only interest is short term profit at any cost and who have no interest in actually seeing Crypto become something that is adopted by the mainstream. While we aren't of course actively going to do anything against these coins we don't want to go out of our way to make it easy for them to copy us either.

This is of course quite possibly a temporary situation, we feel that in the next few years the crypto market is going to mature greatly, with coins like us leading the way with proper development the room for scammers to operate in is going to rapidly dry up, and at that point we might be quite happy to change our minds.

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I should of known better it was a pump but I was expecting the news to be bigger then it was. My average was just over 100 satoshi but with lots of trading between the 40s and 50s and buying more coins it's down
to 55 sat. Have to have patience and wait for the next influx of purchasing. It went to 180 satoshi once and I am sure it will go over 100sat in the future.

There's not a lot of info about the HD linking feature on https://developer.gulden.com, but I assume it's using some central server. It's a good thing that your addresses for linking are stored on a centralized server? I mean, I don't think it's bad, necessarily, but would think of that more as a third-party service, not something built into the protocol of a nominally decentralized cryptocurrency. But ok, I missed that one.

Become your own central bank for you and your family by having centralized control over your decentralized Gulden wallets

No coin has that link and accounts innovation unless you can name another?

Thank you! It seems that giving my opinion on the question asked is under attack of Guldencoin hypers so obvious the thread is only used to advertise and not respectfull concidderation. I think a warning was in place. A large part of the cryptocommunity does not accept a premine at all or just very minimal like 1% or 2%. Then 50% or even 100% premine is totally out of control, we all know where money from premined coins go. I would even start to think if such project is a legal thing to run in the Netherlands. It would be a good question for the Guldencoin devs if they know if it's allowed to start your own cryptocurrency and give yourself 50% control of it. I don't even think that law has developed enough yet so as long as these things can fly under the radar it is probably not a problem. I think the legal part is a legit thing to concidder when making investment and risk assessment.