Is Gulden a good investment?

[Danslip]

The deception is strong here.

Shades of group 22kilo? Defensive action was slow.

I smell a

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[donnatello]

NLG changing hands.

[e-coinomist]

The deception is strong here.

Shades of group 22kilo? Defensive action was slow.

I smell a

Because of https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gulden/#charts and the default view when opening that page. The visual pattern keeps away any interest, regardless of coin fundamentals. Which is sad, since fertilizer pegged stuff like URO featured more gallore.

[Bluestreet]

I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland. 

1) Elections won't affect NLG, the parties most likely to get into control are the same established parties as in the last decade.
2) Comparing to the situation with AUR... this is like comparing apples to elephants.
3) I'm currently not touching NLG with a 5 foot pole...
4) ... which brings me to market psychology... what's going on here. Not traders, manipulators, or otherwise... just the lack of people willing to buy.
5) Not going up anytime soon.

Deep down we all know this is one of the only real projects. Which is why I know you and many others are still invested.

[BioMike]

I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland. 

1) Elections won't affect NLG, the parties most likely to get into control are the same established parties as in the last decade.
2) Comparing to the situation with AUR... this is like comparing apples to elephants.
3) I'm currently not touching NLG with a 5 foot pole...
4) ... which brings me to market psychology... what's going on here. Not traders, manipulators, or otherwise... just the lack of people willing to buy.
5) Not going up anytime soon.

Deep down we all know this is one of the only real projects. Which is why I know you and many others are still invested.

Correct, but the above is also about me being realistic about the market. The elections might give a short term boost, but not structural recovery. The first thing that the NLG market needs now is consolidation. I see there is a NLG-EUR market in the making... IMHO currently the best development that NLG needs (besides merchant acceptance of course).

[investeerder]

I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland. 

This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May.

[TamiLee]

I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland.  

This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May.

Team was only 2 weeks behind on the massive 1.6.0 release, I don't see them being 2 months behind schedule on Prime.

[DashNLG]

I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland.  

This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May.

Team was only 2 weeks behind on the massive 1.6.0 release, I don't see them being 2 months behind schedule on Prime.

This is the best investment imo out of all the coins out there. I only say this because DASH has gone up a lot in value this last week. This coin should be $100 million in marketcap with the projects coming up.

[wavespump]

Golden is not a good investment option, the dev largely hold the tokens for premine, they may sell some for fiat fund in the future, at that time the price will be crashing. I don't want to be a bagholder, if I invest in Gulden, this is very possible to happen. I avoid to buy Gulden, although they have real users.

[DashNLG]

Golden is not a good investment option, the dev largely hold the tokens for premine, they may sell some for fiat fund in the future, at that time the price will be crashing. I don't want to be a bagholder, if I invest in Gulden, this is very possible to happen. I avoid to buy Gulden, although they have real users.

I know why you went for Waves it's 100% premine and easy to pump but NLG is using the funds for very good development.

[TamiLee]

I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account  the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland.  

This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May.

Team was only 2 weeks behind on the massive 1.6.0 release, I don't see them being 2 months behind schedule on Prime.

This is the best investment imo out of all the coins out there. I only say this because DASH has gone up a lot in value this last week. This coin should be $100 million in marketcap with the projects coming up.

New announcement by the dev team yesterday, this is good news for Gulden.

https://developer.gulden.com/blog/

New Core Team members:

As of the 1st March David Joffe has officially joined the core development team. David has been working with Malcolm, our current core developer, for around 10 years. David has a similar skill set to Malcolm with extensive experience in networking code.

On the 1st June Rits will be joining the team as an iOS/OSX developer, more details on his projects will be announced on the roadmap closer to his appointment date.

It was paramount that we grew the team at the right time and more importantly with the right people. This has been made possible by the continued funding by the Gulden users at Gulden shares . Thank you!

Due to the new appointments we are now able to move away from the linear way of dealing with our projects and replace it with a multi focus approach.

Expect more updates from us in the near future regarding our projects.

[Danslip]

Smoke and mirrors to avoid the prime dev. Devs going to do iOS wallet that can't be used, what a joke!

[Dutchyyy]

Smoke and mirrors to avoid the prime dev. Devs going to do iOS wallet that can't be used, what a joke!

New dev has come to help with Prime because it's a hard project that team was not able to do without help.

[konner]

Development is slow but steady. I see no problem in that.

I do have some doubts about the pre-mine and the lack of openness about that by the dev team. I know they have this page where you can see what they spend, but not on what and there is also over 600BTC paid for shares that is completely off the radar.

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's). Other projects do this as well (like Groestl), only in their own time, at their own costs and without any premine. Fact is projects like Groestl produce even higher quality and way more lines of code. This team surely does it's job right, but way more expensive and at a much lower pace. In my opinion Gulden will have way better chances if they start hiring some good PR in stead of more slow coders.

And then there is the issue of the ETF approval that is almost sure to go through this Saturday. I know officially it will be announced on Monday, but the default term actually ends this Saturday. Effectively it will be approved by default if it is not explicitly declined before the end of tomorrow. I'm sure a lot of people are going to speculate on ETF approval this weekend. This could easily boost BTC price above $ 2000. If that happens, Gulden will surely drop sub 750 SAT. So I for one am seriously thinking of temporarily selling out on this one for now and buy back at pre summer 2016 prices.

Just my two cents.

[pijpenstelen]

Development is slow but steady. I see no problem in that.

I do have some doubts about the pre-mine and the lack of openness about that by the dev team. I know they have this page where you can see what they spend, but not on what and there is also over 600BTC paid for shares that is completely off the radar.

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's). Other projects do this as well (like Groestl), only in their own time, at their own costs and without any premine. Fact is projects like Groestl produce even higher quality and way more lines of code. This team surely does it's job right, but way more expensive and at a much lower pace. In my opinion Gulden will have way better chances if they start hiring some good PR in stead of more slow coders.

And then there is the issue of the ETF approval that is almost sure to go through this Saturday. I know officially it will be announced on Monday, but the default term actually ends this Saturday. Effectively it will be approved by default if it is not explicitly declined before the end of tomorrow. I'm sure a lot of people are going to speculate on ETF approval this weekend. This could easily boost BTC price above $ 2000. If that happens, Gulden will surely drop sub 750 SAT. So I for one am seriously thinking of temporarily selling out on this one for now and buy back at pre summer 2016 prices.

Just my two cents.

Development was slow to start with Gulden but it's not slow anymore, I don't know any coin that releases faster. It was first coin to do 0.13 code base update along with 9 other innovative features in one release. No coin is faster then the current development Gulden has going. I did have a look at GRS during the 51% attack scandal and all i see is copying everything bitcoin does, no innovation like Gulden has. I do agree GRS does copy bitcoin code faster then most other coins.

[konner]

Development is slow but steady. I see no problem in that.

I do have some doubts about the pre-mine and the lack of openness about that by the dev team. I know they have this page where you can see what they spend, but not on what and there is also over 600BTC paid for shares that is completely off the radar.

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's). Other projects do this as well (like Groestl), only in their own time, at their own costs and without any premine. Fact is projects like Groestl produce even higher quality and way more lines of code. This team surely does it's job right, but way more expensive and at a much lower pace. In my opinion Gulden will have way better chances if they start hiring some good PR in stead of more slow coders.

And then there is the issue of the ETF approval that is almost sure to go through this Saturday. I know officially it will be announced on Monday, but the default term actually ends this Saturday. Effectively it will be approved by default if it is not explicitly declined before the end of tomorrow. I'm sure a lot of people are going to speculate on ETF approval this weekend. This could easily boost BTC price above $ 2000. If that happens, Gulden will surely drop sub 750 SAT. So I for one am seriously thinking of temporarily selling out on this one for now and buy back at pre summer 2016 prices.

Just my two cents.

Development was slow to start with Gulden but it's not slow anymore, I don't know any coin that releases faster. It was first coin to do 0.13 code base update along with 9 other innovative features in one release. No coin is faster then the current development Gulden has going. I did have a look at GRS during the 51% attack scandal and all i see is copying everything bitcoin does, no innovation like Gulden has. I do agree GRS does copy bitcoin code faster then most other coins.

I agree Gulden is doing good innovations and also Groestl is probably only just adopting fast to BTC developments. My point was just that it seems to me that a lot of money is flowing into this development from the community, where other coins are getting a lot of coding done without those funds. A lot of crypto projects are done by developers in their free time and without any salary, still they manage to progress nicely.

If I remember correctly the core dev (MaNi) was said to be full-time on development once the 50BTC target of the shares was reached. We are now over 600BTC and 6 months further, but I don't see any progress in release times, they are even behind on their roadmap.

I also think Prime is a very good development and surely a solid base for the future. It's just that I think it won't contribute anything to the valuation of the project or the coin. The only thing that matters to get a solid base for any project like Gulden is the user base. For now, that only consists of a small group that are blindly following a tightly closed movement. To reach the masses, I'd say you need to open up and start investing in PR as well.

[Myraidcoins]

Development is slow but steady. I see no problem in that.

I do have some doubts about the pre-mine and the lack of openness about that by the dev team. I know they have this page where you can see what they spend, but not on what and there is also over 600BTC paid for shares that is completely off the radar.

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's). Other projects do this as well (like Groestl), only in their own time, at their own costs and without any premine. Fact is projects like Groestl produce even higher quality and way more lines of code. This team surely does it's job right, but way more expensive and at a much lower pace. In my opinion Gulden will have way better chances if they start hiring some good PR in stead of more slow coders.

And then there is the issue of the ETF approval that is almost sure to go through this Saturday. I know officially it will be announced on Monday, but the default term actually ends this Saturday. Effectively it will be approved by default if it is not explicitly declined before the end of tomorrow. I'm sure a lot of people are going to speculate on ETF approval this weekend. This could easily boost BTC price above $ 2000. If that happens, Gulden will surely drop sub 750 SAT. So I for one am seriously thinking of temporarily selling out on this one for now and buy back at pre summer 2016 prices.

Just my two cents.

Development was slow to start with Gulden but it's not slow anymore, I don't know any coin that releases faster. It was first coin to do 0.13 code base update along with 9 other innovative features in one release. No coin is faster then the current development Gulden has going. I did have a look at GRS during the 51% attack scandal and all i see is copying everything bitcoin does, no innovation like Gulden has. I do agree GRS does copy bitcoin code faster then most other coins.

I agree Gulden is doing good innovations and also Groestl is probably only just adopting fast to BTC developments. My point was just that it seems to me that a lot of money is flowing into this development from the community, where other coins are getting a lot of coding done without those funds. A lot of crypto projects are done by developers in their free time and without any salary, still they manage to progress nicely.

If I remember correctly the core dev (MaNi) was said to be full-time on development once the 50BTC target of the shares was reached. We are now over 600BTC and 6 months further, but I don't see any progress in release times, they are even behind on their roadmap.

I also think Prime is a very good development and surely a solid base for the future. It's just that I think it won't contribute anything to the valuation of the project or the coin. The only thing that matters to get a solid base for any project like Gulden is the user base. For now, that only consists of a small group that are blindly following a tightly closed movement. To reach the masses, I'd say you need to open up and start investing in PR as well.

The problem with other coins is that the developers are anonymous. I have tried to get the Myriad team to come out in the open, the excuse that satoshi was anonymous is not an argument since the people working on the bitcoin codebase now have an identity. I have purchased Gulden because they doing good things but also the team isn't anonymous and the community have had meetups with the dev team in the past. This makes a big difference in trust for people.

It's the only reason dgb has higher value then Myriad because Jared is out in the open but Myriads dev is better then digibyte.

[Altcoinfanatic]

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's).

Are they South African? Hope this coin gets more dutch dev's as it is loosing it's identity and being overtaken by South Africans. It should be marketed as South African coin and not as dutch if they are South African also. Very disappointing that the only Dutch guy (Rijk) is not even a developer.

I do agree that they are spending ALOT more on the same stuff (hey cousin, you need money? We got dutch fools throwing money for free at us. Hey uncle, you need money? We are looting the dutchies, time for payback what they have done to us). Don't like this friends and family politics at all. Creating an elite group of friends and family is bad for Gulden. They only see Gulden as an moneymakingmachine, nothing more.
Now Prime could costs 200 BTC instead of the initial 20 BTC.

 I hope i am wrong.

[Altcoinfanatic]

Development was slow to start with Gulden but it's not slow anymore, I don't know any coin that releases faster. It was first coin to do 0.13 code base update along with 9 other innovative features in one release. No coin is faster then the current development Gulden has going. I did have a look at GRS during the 51% attack scandal and all i see is copying everything bitcoin does, no innovation like Gulden has. I do agree GRS does copy bitcoin code faster then most other coins.

<rant>

You don't know any coin that releases faster? Perhaps you don't know other coins?
Bitcoin and Dash delivers much more releases than Gulden. Gulden is in the top 5 of fast releasers but it isn't the fastest.

AFAIK they did 5 innovative features:
1. HD desktop wallet with mnemonic (recovery phrase) support
2. Fully integrated accounts within wallet physical seperation between accounts
3. New HD Link feature
4. Bitcoin and IBAN
5. In app purchase

These are not innovative:
1. Next Generation desktop wallet (just an overhaul of the gui, any coin can change gui)
2. Local currency (many wallets have this already)
3. Update of our underlying codebase (many coins have this already)
4. Updated mobile apps (just an update, nothing innovative)
5. DELTA. This annoys me the most. When you create a cryptocoin, then the solid base should be good. Gulden is almost 3 years old still struggling to achieve the blocktime it specified 3 years ago. All other coins have blocktime as coded. Gulden is one of the few coins still struggling to get the blocktime that it adverstised. I call bullshit that multipool is to blame. Get your shit straight, Delta is just a hype thing to camouflage that they can't sort the blocktime. If the blocktime was ok, there would be far more dumping because more coins would be mined.

I don't agree that no coins are faster than gulden with releases. I will not mention one, but open your eyes. There are coins out there that releases every month.
I also don't agree that Gulden is innovative as you say. It is a clone of Litecoin and later rebased to Bitcoin.
What is this Groestl thing you guys are talking about?

</end rant>

Sorry i have bought ALOT of Gulden and the price is depressing me. I dont blame the developers or anybody but myself. But i hate it when people are following a coin like sheep and not seeing the truth.

[donnatello]

I hope i am wrong.

Get on their slack. Air some of your concerns, since not everything looks like what they're claiming. Those arrogant bastards will f* you left right and center with troll-seeking missiles, then kick you out.