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2721  Other / Meta / Re: Since none of you seem to have noticed... on: December 13, 2012, 01:06:04 AM
...or are unwilling to point it out, all BFL threads regarding ASIC were dumped in the german off-topic forum.  

You mean moved?

I don't see many BFL-related deletions:
2722  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin value for a small web store on: December 13, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
I am using a Bitcoin plugin written by jalder. Both the jalder and bitpay plugin would leave me having to update the prices in the store from time to time.

So if you could enter the price in dollars but it would always calculated the equivalent price in BTC based on the 24 hour VWAP from MTGox BTC/USD, that would be all you need?     

Looks like you are using round numbers, so does simply having a display round down at a certain number of decimals work? 
e.g.,  for something priced at $25 USD would display 1.8 BTC  which is what 1.85185 BTC is rounded down to, using $13.50 BTC/USD as an example.

2723  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Three days out, and network hashrate unaffected? on: December 12, 2012, 11:50:26 PM
wtf, now it's going back up again?!

EDIT: Ah of course, price went up 1 $... GPUs are back online...

And because of those coming back to BTC mining after giving LTC mining a try.

But yes, with the exchange rate up 10% and difficulty dropped by a small amount ... today it is marginally better than it was two weeks ago.

Though the ASIC onslaught continues unabated.   Not every promised ASIC design needs to ship to finish off GPUs, ... just one actually shipping will do that.

Or even some souped up FPGA monster.  Such as what yohan says they've got.  From another thread:

Before we ask for money you will be able to see the inital small system results in the network hash rate. It will be big enough to be noticed.
2724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help with Transaction 2BTC Bounty on: December 12, 2012, 11:40:43 PM
They credited them to my new account.

Of people reporting having made this mistake (accidentally sending to the wrong address), every one that I know of has ended up recovering the funds (less bounty / etc.).    Contrast that to how nearly no thief has been tracked down through info obtained through the blockchain.

2725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Experiment: A signed offer to buy BTC that one may accept by sending the BTC on: December 12, 2012, 11:35:12 PM
I am conducting an experiment that I am hoping will generate some discussion about the way bitcoins are traded.

On the occasions that I put a buy offer on #bitcoin-otc marketplace I use the "{mtgoxlast}" macro substitution so that the exchange rate will fluctuate with the market rate.

Though you had put out a fixed exchange rate, this fluctuating rate could still be offered.  This is because the mtgox trading history is publicly available and has a timestamp (i.e., can be independently verified).

But I hate seeing a third-party data source being relied on in ways it wasn't designed to be.  There's no service agreement from that the timestamp displayed won't change (e.g., if had to re-index the database perhaps).   And the quote data from Mt. Gox has historically not been pure as well (trades getting cancelled).  

But these things occur with other trading systems and agreements so there's ways to deal with them, including acknowledging there is the risk someone will sell to you during a trade spike way above what ends up being the VWAP or similar less-volatile price method.
2726  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where can I sell about 300 bitcoins? on: December 12, 2012, 11:00:15 PM
I live in the UK.. so its gonna be wire bank transfer to UK. Are you able to do that?  Smiley

There are places to list your offer or find a trade as well. Such as:

UK Bitcoin group on Facebook:


And there are frequently threads with buyers and sellers:

having trouble buying bitcoins in the uk would like to buy a few hundred pounds a week but cant find a reliable source for cash payments

I'll purchase them if you will take 115 GBP.

[Edit: And user Tenakha does cash trades and bank transfer as well:
 -;u=65105 ]
2727  Other / Off-topic / Re: $50 Android Smartphones Are Disrupting Africa Much Faster Than You Think on: December 12, 2012, 10:48:11 PM
These are the ten most spoken languages in Africa

1) Arabic
2) Kiswahili
3) Hausa

4) English
5) Amharic
6) French
7) Oromo
8 ) Yoruba
9) Igbo
10) Zulu

Is it time to push for mobile wallets to be translated into those other seven major languages and start a bitcoin campain in those languages too?

Does even Kenya's M-PESA (where Pesa is Swahili for "money") even offer a mode where it can be used in Swahili?

Fortunately, bitcoin is universal.  A 500 mBTC is the same in Nairobi as it is in Newark. But yes, no doubt, localizations will help increase bitcoin's reach to the rest of the world.
2728  Other / Meta / Re: We need more transparence on: December 12, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
ModLog provides some transparency here:

Deleting threads - Log the Title, URL, date deleted, deleted by, and reason
2729  Other / Off-topic / Re: Liberty Dollars ban goes into effect at eBay on: December 12, 2012, 09:03:25 PM
If NotHaus is your anti-FED hero well you need to pick better heroes.  Did you know the "Liberty Dollars" were inflationary.   They contained less than face value of silver and as the value of silver rose the coins became more and more debased. Greed pure and simple.

Just to make sure that isn't misunderstood, you don't mean traditional coin debasement methods where alloys are introduced like how a 1964 U.S. quarter had 90% silver content, but a 1965 quarter of the same shape, size and appearance had been debased with a copper and nickel coin with no silver content whatsoever.

Instead what the Liberty Dollar did was change the denomination stamped on the coin.  The earlier 1 ounce silver coin was stamped $10.  The later 1 ounce silver coin was stamped $20.

The price charged for an item in terms of Liberty Dollars though would fluctuate depending on the exchange rate for silver.

So a 2005 (1 ounce silver) $10 Liberty Dollar pictured above would (presumably) buy the same amount of goods and services that the 2006 (1 ounce silver) $20 Liberty Dollar would.
2730  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: USD between MTGOX <--> DWOLLA on: December 12, 2012, 09:42:06 AM
Just an FYI, Dwolla added "Guest Checkout".

What this does is allow someone without a Dwolla account to enter their bank details and submit a transaction without registering through Dwolla.


What I haven't been able to figure out is when the funds become available to the merchant.  I'm presuming this does not occur until the bank transaction completed several business days later.

But this can provide a method for someone here with a Dwolla account (configured as a merchant) to accept Dwolla funds from people who might not yet already have a Dwolla account.

[Edit: Thought keep in mind the chances of a fraudulent payment is likely higher with these type of "guest checkout" transactions.]
2731  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Namecoin BTC exchange? on: December 12, 2012, 08:01:11 AM
Is there a Namecoin/Bitcoin exchange server setup yet? I'm not really sure what to do with namecoins.

2732  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant & zipzap confirmed 36 hrs ago, no coins, nothing on Blockchain on: December 12, 2012, 05:14:14 AM
For future reference, BitInstant now has its own thread in the Newbie board for handling customer support requests:

Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support)
2733  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best Way to Buy Small Amount of Coins on: December 12, 2012, 05:10:59 AM
I am looking to make my first bitcoin purchase, interested in purchasing 2-3 coins to start. I'm interested to know what the best(and cheapest) way to turn cash into a small number of coins would be.

The factors that matter in order to give you the best answer include:

 - Where are you located (country)?
 - How much are you looking to buy?
 - What payment methods do you have available?
 - How soon do you need access to the proceeds?
 - Is privacy important?

A fairly comprehensive list of options is compiled here:


In the U.S., if there is a Chase bank branch around, is probably your best option for a purchase of $30-ish of coins.  

If you are in the U.S. and have a bank account you might want to get started on a Dwolla account, but that won't help you for 30 days due to Dwolla's 30-day probation period for new accounts with respect to Bitcoin exchanges.  But after that, Dwolla gives you the cheapest method to buy coins in the future.
2734  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can I be anonymous to my bank when buying Bitcoins? on: December 12, 2012, 04:29:58 AM
For instance if I buy them off my card

I think that's probably where you are misunderstanding what options are available to you.

There are nearly no sellers who accept a payment card for the purchase of bitcoins.

The few that do will definitely have their merchant account name appear on your bank statement.  For instance, VirWoX:
 -    <---   Buy Second Life Lindens (SLLs) then trade SLLs for BTCs.

LiqPay is another, used by for instance.

Here's another ... but they have a delay of delivery from five to eight days:
2735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introducing myself and announcing publicly my new Bitcoin Video Poker website! on: December 12, 2012, 04:17:12 AM
My Games doesn't show any results.

What do you mean?  Perhaps try clearing cache?

The wallet is spent now so I'll share the URL:


I played a couple dozen hands.  But now when I click the My Games it doesn't show anything.

This is on Chrome.  I didn't try any other browsers.
2736  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Easier way to safely store Bitcoins? on: December 12, 2012, 04:12:36 AM
Hello, I'm very interested in Bitcoins and bought a couple a month or so ago. I'm getting more confident in the potential that Bitcoin has and I really want to buy a bunch more. However I'm not completely confident with my security set-up

If your USB drive is a LiveOS (e.g., Ubuntu), then use that and copy copy of the html from 

Then disconnect internet and boot to the LiveOS and load the html.

Print a few pages of paper wallets.  Print 2 copies of each.


Fund each with sane amounts (e.g., no more than 25 BTC each).

Store one copy in a secure location.  Store a second copy in another secure location or give to a loved one to hold on for you.

When you want to spend, from a secure computer (or using the LiveOS but connected to the internet), grab one of the paper wallets and redeem on (import private key).  Done.

If you are talking more significant amounts of funds, there are additional approaches:
2737  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bets of Bitcoin - Bitcoin betting on real world events on: December 12, 2012, 02:48:08 AM
I hadn't seen Jon Matonis' article from Forbes in this thread:

Prediction Market 'Bets Of Bitcoin' Available To U.S. Customers

Instead of seeking regulatory approval, Bets of Bitcoin focuses on financial privacy and anonymity so that itís irrelevant where the customers are geographically located. Anyone can create a bet statement and new bets are vetted by moderators to eliminate unwanted bets or bets whose outcome canít be easily determined or is easily manipulated.

Also, Bets of Bitcoin was just references in an article by Verge's Adrianne Jeffreis on Intrade:

Intrade shutdown disrupts betting market on elections, air strikes, and celebrity arrests

Hardcore Intrade addicts can also turn to the tiny prediction market Bets of Bitcoin, where some believe converting your dollars to the internet currency Bitcoin circumvents laws around commodity options because the site isn't using a government-recognized currency.
2738  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introducing myself and announcing publicly my new Bitcoin Video Poker website! on: December 12, 2012, 01:26:28 AM
BitcoinVideoPoker has been updated with new features and bug fixes.

My Games doesn't show any results.
2739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: December 12, 2012, 01:07:42 AM
It's trying to be something that it isn't and can't be.

And I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum.  Single-use paper Bitcoins are even better than paper currency.   The QR code is scanned and and the document discarded.   Either there were funds from it or there weren't.   For the change I get my local currency and coin, just as if I had paid cash.   Or I can show the public ("load & verify") QR code for my the next one and get a receipt from the merchant showing the address and the transaction id.

2740  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Transaction change vanished on: December 12, 2012, 12:36:07 AM
I guess it is in the addr field I should be searching, right?

Yup.  If 1PyDNpaHGaAxazG13Xa7sESVeQbympLrHw is in there, you can take the corresponding private key over to another wallet or client and import it there and you'll have access to the funds.
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