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2721  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1mBTC and below bitcoins on: December 04, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
that I can send bitcoins without paying for the transaction fee but it may sometimes fail as I understand. So I could use/abuse this to avoid paying for the transaction fee? Is there an average chance if any, that I could successfully send bitcoins without paying for the transaction fee using blockchain.info's My Wallet?

Where there are instances where transactions will not confirm for hours and hours or even a day, I cannot understand what Blockchain.info is doing that would enable them to say that they will "return them" to you in 24 hours.  Once a transaction is broadcast is ends up in the transaction memory pool for tens of thousands (or more) full nodes.  You can't spend them again because those nodes won't accept another transaction with the same coins -- it is a double spend.  Eventually the original transaction will get mined.

I've asked this on the blockchain.info thread:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1376902#msg1376902
2722  Economy / Gambling / Re: [BITLOTTO] Nov draw over! Next draw Dec 7! on: December 04, 2012, 07:34:57 AM
17 BTC up for grabs so far! Good luck!

There's a performance issue with the site right now.  The page starts to load and then stalls before eventually loading the remainder.
 - http://www.BitLotto.com

Also, are you sure it is wise to load external javascript?   If that were to intermittently or selectively replace the bitcoin address it could cause misdirected wagers.
2723  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: December 03, 2012, 11:49:30 PM
When i parse the JSON data for blockchain output volume I am seeing a couple of gaps:

  - http://blockchain.info/charts/output-volume?timespan=all&format=json

After 1346350505 (Aug 27, 2012) the next one is 1346609705 (Sep 3, 2012).
After 1347128105 (Sep 7, 2012) the next one is 1347387305 (Sep 11, 2012).
After 1348078505 (Sep 19, 2012) the next one is 1348251305 (Sep 21, 2012).

[Edited: A third gap was found as well.]
2724  Economy / Goods / Re: Mt. Gox Yubikey code for sale!!! on: December 03, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
I received a code for a free yubikey and am not really interested in it.

Please say that the reason you are "not really interested in it" is because you prefer Google Authenticator or some other 2FA method, or aren't using that account anymore, or ... anything other than "username and password are fine".
2725  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Underground business... on: December 03, 2012, 10:38:59 PM
The problem with the notion of illegal business is that it's nonsense. The business name for an illegal venture is criminal enterprise.

Exactly.  A criminal enterprise.   Here's one such example:

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Gandhi reached down and picked up a small lump of natural salt out of the mud--and British law had been defied.
- http://www.history.com/topics/salt-march
2726  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1mBTC and below bitcoins on: December 03, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
Hello everyone. I'm quite new to the world of Bitcoin and I just got here around the 2nd week of Nov. I always go to websites like bitvisitor.com, dailybitcoins.org, coinad.com, bitcrate.net and chromaticcreative.net/bitcoin/kabm/ to name a few so that I could get some free bitcoins and somehow get involved or learn new things from the Bitcoin world Smiley.

But as I read the bitcoin wiki, I've learned that by default sending bitcoins would deduct a 0.5mBTC unless the transaction is smaller than 10KB and all outputs are 0.01BTC or larger

Right.  So but that is a per-transaction, not per-coin.  So you might have dozens and dozens of these 1mBTC, but when sending all of them at once, you only pay 0.5mBTC.      So just let them accumulate and the amount of the fee gets smaller and smaller as a percent the total transaction amount.

But bitcoin wasn't built for microtransactions.   Sure you can do them inexpensively today, consider it to be mostly just a temporary occurrence.

0.5mBTC is still less than a penny.

If you want full control, you can use a different client that doesn't impose a minimum fee.

Blockchain.info/wallet is one such wallet.

 - http://Blockchain.info/wallet

You can even import all your existing private keys into Blockchain.info/wallet and spend there.  (Or use the Blockchain.info/wallet's desktop sync browser plugin to sync the private keys).
2727  Other / Off-topic / Re: Droplet - disruptive mobile payment on: December 03, 2012, 09:54:15 PM
I wish someone would create a system like this with bitcoin as the backing currency. Initially people would load up their accounts with their country's currency, but eventually folks would realize that they can both send and receive money without ever converting to fiat.

Or if exchanges were to be able to use it.  From another thread:

This is a little different from PayPal for payments transfer because (presumably) the app requires location tracking (geofencing), and thus a lesser chance of claiming it was not an authorized payment.

I'ld be curious if this would be a tool used for either low-cost bitcoin cash-out (payment send via Droplet, from a trusted party) or for face-to-face transactions where there is less risk of carrying physical cash.

Of course, this has the same level of being traceable as bank transactions do, so there's that.

But since Droplet accepts credit card, this is not the same as a Dwolla though.
2728  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So how on earth am I supposed to get bitcoins in the UK? on: December 03, 2012, 09:49:36 PM
I was just seeing a P2P payments upstart in the UK:

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add cash to it via a debit or credit card (in multiples of 10) and pay anyone who both has the app and an email address which is associated with the app.

 - http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/03/droplet-plans-to-disrupt-mobile-cash-with-no-charges-payment-app-for-iphone/

This is a little different from PayPal for payments transfer because (presumably) the app requires location tracking (geofencing), and thus a lesser chance of claiming it was not an authorized payment.

I'ld be curious if this would be a tool used for either low-cost bitcoin cash-out (payment send via Droplet, from a trusted party) or for face-to-face transactions where there is less risk of carrying physical cash.

Of course, this has the same level of being traceable as bank transactions do, so there's that.

[Edit: I see a thread on it already exists:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128948.0 ]
2729  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitMe now accepting new payment methods (Direct Deposit, wires, cash deposits) on: December 03, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
Trading volume growing at a steady pace:



 - http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitmeUSD#igWeeklyzm1g10zm2g25zvzcv
2730  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Awful awful Mt Gox support ! on: December 03, 2012, 08:20:26 PM
I will let you know how the situation progresses.

If you haven't tried this, ... ping magicaltux on the #mtgox IRC channel (freenode):

 - http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mtgox

Try this during business hours in Japan.
2731  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: December 03, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
Why not make it that every 10 bets you send out the winners to everyone on the list.

While that might reduce a little of the amount of data in the blockchain, it would be a nightmare for support.

KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid

One bet.  One payout.

Simple.

Given a link to the payout, nobody should be left with any doubt that they were paid (once it confirms).
2732  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitInstant SCAMMERS on: December 03, 2012, 07:54:23 PM
I paid cash at cvs a week ago and still have not gotten gox code.

Now that you have one post on this forum, you have the ability to send a PM.  Try that and please report back in a day.
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21181

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

There are many reasons a purchase may see difficulties in getting completed.   There are daily limits that are in place.  Sometimes people try to send an amount over the limit or multiple transactions to try to get past the limit.   These payments go through MoneyGram.  MoneyGram may not always complete the transaction.  

But the biggest question I have is ...

Since when does BitInstant give out Mt. Gox codes?

If you transfer to Mt. Gox, you needed to enter your Mt. Gox account number.

Is there the possibility that the instructions were misunderstood and there are now issues in completing this transaction?
2733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: are there any bitcoin mailing lists? on: December 03, 2012, 07:23:51 PM
technical and conceptual discussions, etc

You can subscribe to the Developer mailing list:
 - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development

There are RSS and Twitter feeds for most of those who might blog about bitcoin.

There's still a lot of of the discussion happening here on BItcoinTalk:

Development & Technical Discussion
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0
2734  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-30 Calvinayre.com - Bitcoin presented to Casinos in Macau on: December 03, 2012, 07:16:41 PM
It works because in Italy near nobody knows what it is Bitcoin Wink

That's changing:

Rivista Italiana di Intelligence - Bitcoin: la moneta del Cyberspazio
 - http://gnosis.aisi.gov.it/gnosis/Rivista31.nsf/ServNavig/11


warren mosler about bitcoin 2012 at [MMT Italy 2012]
 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NePQAODv0


Seminario Crimini Informatici - Silk Road e Bitcoin - Cosenza
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114732.0
2735  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Credit Union? on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:25 PM
Startup costs are in the tens of thousands.

Tens of thousands?  Tens of thousands of bitcoins maybe, or more like hundreds of thousands of bitcoins.

Green Dot (MoneyPak) faced a similar problem.   Instead of begging banks to let it expand its service offerings, it simply bought one and became a bank itself.   (well, not "simply", it cost $16 million to buy one of the smallest solvent banks that was on the market).

Oh, and they have a former FinCEN staffer on their payroll, which helps get these types of deals approved:
 - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jeff-ross/10/32b/439
2736  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockchain.info not sending confirmation emails on: December 03, 2012, 08:18:09 AM
I have confirmed my email and the settings are correct:

Just to eliminate the obvious, ... nothing is in your spam folder?
2737  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: why take down mining pools? on: December 03, 2012, 06:48:01 AM
Probably trying to do a 51% attack

Or simply bringing difficulty down to be able to mine with a ton of new GPUs once difficulty adjusts down.

If 51% attack were the intent you'ld think it would have been better timed by waiting until difficulty dropped first.   It is easier to do a 51% against a difficulty 30 than a difficulty 44, and a drop was likely already before the DDoS even.

2738  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Give BitCoins to the Salvation Army? on: December 03, 2012, 06:31:27 AM
I saw this and got to thinking:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/rare-gold-coin-dropped-in_n_2205731.html?utm_hp_ref=good-news

Maybe like those giving rare coins we can share our own tokens of value with those in need.


I carry around some unfunded paper bitcoins in my wallet and saw the bell ringer and was "this close" to pulling one out, funding it and dropping it in the bucket.  I didn't have a pen to write instruction on how to redeem it so I passed on the opportunity.   I don't know what they'ld do with it -- maybe they'ld claim it.   I'ld write that it expires in 30 days and then check.  If they didn't claim it by then I'ld redeem it and give it to someone else.

Name any other form of money you have that level of flexibility with?
2739  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Does anyone use multi-sender transacations? on: December 03, 2012, 06:23:45 AM
I know multi-sender transactions with sending addresses that belong to different people are possible in theory in bitcoin, but does anyone actually use them? Many analyses of the bitcoin network assume that they are seldom used, I'm just trying to get an idea of how much that is true in practice.

Did you mean multi-party M-of-N (BIP 11) transactions?
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0011
2740  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any mobile wallet other than blockchain? on: December 03, 2012, 05:26:59 AM
I have an iPhone running the latest OS. I hate blockchain. Is there any mobile alternative? The app store has nothing, but is there a site that caters to mobile wallets?

You can thank Apple for this.

FriendlyPay was in the App Store.   It was a nice, clean wallet app.   Apple yanked it.

WalletBit had recently submitted their mobile app.  

Denied ...  

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Apps must comply with all legal requirements in any location where they are made available to users. It is the developer's obligation to understand and conform to all local laws

Of course, Apple won't say which location this might be or how what legal requirement it doesn't comply with.

So, to put it another way.  You bought a beautiful piece of mobile phone hardware made by horrible piece of shit company.

You can always use EasyWallet.org via web:
 - http://www.EasyWallet.org

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