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2721  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Transaction change vanished on: December 10, 2012, 02:06:32 AM
Ran "bitcoin-qt -salvagewallet -rescan", but I get "Cannot initialize keypool" error message. Tried several times. Found no helpful information by googling it...

I doubt that those two are meant to be used simultaneously.   Try just -salvagewallet

2722  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: UK options for BTC to GBP on: December 10, 2012, 01:50:37 AM
StephenGornick - what is the unavailable method you alluded to?

The one I was referring to as being "unavailable" is the cash-out service that mjb monetary metals was providing:

Another method is currently unavailable but it may be re-opened at some point:

********** BUY / SELL BITCOINS UK *********

They now are providing cash out service, but only through OKPay.
2723  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Liberty Reserve to Western Union exchange on: December 10, 2012, 01:44:53 AM
Guys you just don't send your exchange order to anyone who have advertised online. Be careful and use reliable and recommended exchange services like http://Http://

Guys you just don't send your exchange order to anyone who have advertised online. Be careful and use reliable and recommended exchange services like http://Http://

freddy8 your recommendation in your previous post is no longer in business.  This swapmybuck one had its domain registered just a couple weeks ago.

When exchanging non-reversible payments like Liberty Reserve or other digital currencies like Perfect Money, one needs to have good reason to trust the counterparty. 

Sometimes buyer or seller can be found through the #Bitcoin-otc marketplace, and the -otc Web of Trust (WoT) is useful to see the counterparty's trust history:
2724  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: BIP 38 Discussion Thread - Passphrase-Protected Private Key Format on: December 10, 2012, 12:11:06 AM
* Encrypted keys are fifty-eight Base58Check-encoded characters starting with "6P"

Would you mind updating this wiki article to reflect this?
2725  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Prepaid Visa to Bitcoin? on: December 09, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
I recently received a 500$ prepaid visa giftcard from a friend at work

Where do you find friends like that?   Grin

my visa is only good in the U.S. Is it even possible to buy bitcoins with a Visa Prepaid giftcard?

Can the card be used at an ATM?

Cash works for buying bitcoins.

Do you have a Chase location nearby?   Bitcoins can be purchased at BitMe with cash deposited at Chase.   There isn't always liquidity so buying in the $500 range there might take a bit for sellers to take you up on your buy order.  (or you can always buy at the current price for the sell orders, but that is about 5% over the spot price).

You can also buy bitcoins using cash through BitInstant.  

There is a service that accepts credit and debit cards, I don't know if they have restrictions against prepaid cards.  At the moment the site reads: "Availability: Out Of Stock" though.

Or you might find a local trade (paying cash):

Additionally, there are frequently individual traders on #bitcoin-otc who are willing to accept a prepaid card and after spending the funds successfully will send you the coins for the agreed-upon purchase price.  Using the history from the Web of Trust (WoT) helps to ensure a safer transaction -- or perhaps asking the seller to agree to using an escrow is another way to lessen the chance that you would be cheated.


Or if you are considering a bank transfer, there all kinds of options are available:
2726  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [*In Stock*]btcQuick Selling Coins for CC/Debit [35 Coins In-stock 12/04] on: December 09, 2012, 07:13:29 PM
We just added 30 Bitcoin Key's to our stock. Get them while they last!

The product page for each shows out of stock at the present time.  Is the site always accurate, or any ETA?
2727  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: : frozen btc when trying to withdraw on: December 09, 2012, 05:27:34 AM
I tried to withdraw my BTC but they got frozen by for no reason (they are normally frozen when you initiate a sell transaction which I didn't, I just tried to withdraw).

FYI, another related thread:
2728  Economy / Services / Re: Coinbase - Solid or not? on: December 09, 2012, 05:18:21 AM
I had an easy setup with two-factor authentication and while the message when I have sold Bitcoins has told me to expect the ACH to go through in five business days, it actually went through in two.

I had cashed out through CoinBase as well and the funds for the 4:52 pm PST sale were in my bank account about 36 hours later.
2729  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: December 09, 2012, 05:15:15 AM
I received a little over 1.7% of my held balance back.

If the exchange rate goes up much more that would make it harder on BitFloor.  It is like taking out a  BTC loan and then having to repay from dollar-based income.
2730  Economy / Services / Re: [CLOSED] CellCoin on: December 09, 2012, 04:57:46 AM
We at Tangible Cryptography LLC have decided to close CellCoin.

That's unfortunate.

BitcoinWireless has not yet launched either.  That least BTCBuy as the sole remaining source.  Each month I refill my mobile phone service (currently Virgin Wireless prepaid, previously T-Mobile prepaid) and use either CellCoin or BTCBuy and have had great experiences with both.

2731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are there a large number of nodes near Wichita, Kansas? on: December 09, 2012, 04:42:47 AM
Conspiracy theories, anyone?

Geographic center of "U.S" where no location with greater specificity was available?
2732  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: where to sells coins for gbp on: December 09, 2012, 01:07:34 AM
i have nearly 200 coins that i need to convert into gbp

where is the best place to do so quickly and with the least charges  

For that size of traction the best cash-out method might be to simply trade at MTGox's btc/GBP market and then do an international bank wire.  

You could break it up into multiple trades at various exchanges and perhaps come out a little better.  They are often individuals buying for cash through LocalBItcoins.

Or the bitcoin-otc marketplace also might help you find buyers.  

Here is a thread from someone looking to buy a smaller quantity.
2733  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Czech bitcoins-how to cash them? on: December 08, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
If you live in Czech Republic- how do you cash bitcoins,are there any companies which facilitate this?  Smiley ta for replies etc.....

You might ask, maybe they might be looking for a local source or perhaps might know of a local trade option for you.

There might already be someone listing an offer near you. There are many listings in which you will find a buyer paying with CZK.

2734  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Blockchain: List of nodes is connected to on: December 07, 2012, 11:41:11 PM
as it states the list of nodes that's bitcoind is connected too. You can't see all globally running bitcoin clients

I don't even know that needs to be able to connect to it to list it.  If node A connects to node B, node B would share the IP for Node A, but node A doesn't necessary need to allow an incoming connection.  And thus if's node learned of node A through node A it might list it even though it cannot connect to it.

I don't know if they are doing that, and doing so would make it trivially easy to pollute's list of nodes.
2735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: buying bitcoins in uk also cashu ukash problem on: December 07, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
having trouble buying bitcoins in the uk would like to buy a few hundred pounds a week but cant find a reliable source for cash payments

You can't find local cash traders?


Bitcoin Nordic accepts cash-by-mail (GBPs) for the purchase of bitcoins.  The are in Denmark:

You might also want to place a buy order on the #bitcoin-otc marketplace:
 -  - The #bitcoin-otc marketplace Web of Trust (WoT)

There was another thread recently in which an individual offered to do a trade with a bank transfer:

That was learned from:
2736  Economy / Gambling / Re: shooting its self in the foot with listing fees on: December 07, 2012, 10:30:26 PM
A listing fee disincentivizes people from contributing new submissions which in turn hampers the diversity of options available to people who want to place bets which in turn reduces the appeal of

The listing fee is 0.1 BTC.  That's worth about $1.30 currently.  If the submission earns enough commission the submitter can actually profit.  The break-even is 2.0 BTC in losing bets.

Essentially if a bet statement doesn't yield at least 2.0 BTC in losing bets it probably wasn't well written or of sufficient interest to a wide-enough audience.  i.e., in my opinion, the site is better off without cruft.  Fewer submissions that are of a good quality are better than many submissions of little interest.

Also, this hurdle might help cause bet statement authors to think it through a bit more.  For instance, if a bet is so obvious, few will bet what ends up being the losing side.   So while the bet statement may end up with a ton of bets placed, if there are hardly any losing bets there is hardly any gain for those who bet the correct way.   So with some  "skin" in the game, the bet statement author might develop a bet statement to where the outcome is less likely to be easily predicted.

Should you have a bet statement you'ld like to submit but are holding back because of the 0.1 BTC submission fee, I created a thread for requests / suggestions:
2737  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: December 07, 2012, 06:39:26 PM
I'm trying to use Blockchain for Android for the first time on a Nexus 7 and it crashes on launch.

I can see the stack trace on the Report menu, but don't know how to copy that and paste it here so I'll manually type what it looks like the problem is.

Caused by:$InstantiationException: Unable to instantiate fragment make sure class name exists, is public, and has an empty constructor that is public
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "" on path: /data/app/piuk.blockchain-1.apk

This is on Android 4.2,

[Update: Thanks to World's tip on how to get a screen shot:

2738  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate as a bank. This is HUGE on: December 07, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
  • Our user's funds will actually be held at the Credit Mutuel under the user's name, they will be separate from Paymium's funds (on the other hand, all of other exchanges funds for example sit in the same account, and are considered by their bank to be their corporate property)

Bitcoin-Central currently operates a BTC/EUR market and a BTC/GBP market (and still has the BTC/USD market showing on the site, without support for offers currently).  Does this mean GBP, USD and any other funds will be held at Credit Mutuel as well?

  • Our user's accounts will be protected by the "Garantie des dépôts" which is the French equivalent of the American FDIC
Presumably this protection applies to just the EUR balances for each Bitcoin-Central account?[/list]
2739  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate as a bank. This is HUGE on: December 06, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
I was fairly certain that no bank outside US would touch US citizens with a 10 foot pole, thanks to US's numerous financial regulations.

Here's the most well known example of that:

So in order to know which accounts are held by U.S citizens (so as to be compliant with FATCA), will Bitcoin-Central then need to require verification of identity of all accountholders who wish to continue using the exchange?
2740  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: December 06, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
Now more SMS numbers added, and all the numbers are listed in the contact page. In case the main number doesn't work, you can try others.

Our new gateway is nexmo, which focuses solely on SMS messages, therefore it should be more reliable than twilio.

When there is an offer sent to me in response to an ad I had placed, I don't learn of it until some time has passed as I don't check e-mail as frequently as is needed for this.

I was thinking I should change my e-mail address for LocalBitcoins to the e-mail gateway for my mobile service, but then I would not have the link for the offer in my e-mail as well.  

Preferably, what I would like is both a text message alert whenever a new offer is received (or for additional messages from the person making the offer) as well as the existing e-mail.  

Because I use GMail, I can add a "filter" and have the messages from "" forwarded to my mobile SMS/text messaging number, but I think this secondary notification via text messaging would be a a nice feature if built into localbitcoins itself.

Would you consider either adding a checkbox to have notifications sent to my SMS number for my account?   (And then format the SMS alert respectful of the 140 char limit).

Or if not, how about providing the ability for me to add multiple e-mail addresses for notifications and I'll simply add my SMS / text messaging gateway number:
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