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1041  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: March 01, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
I had withdrawn some money from bitcoinrush and got it back fairly quickly (about 48 minutes if I am not calculating wrong because blockchain shows a different timezone than my own timezone so and I didn't really checked when they would send just got notified by my wallet that I have some money deposited and checked to see when it was on blockchain which was either 48 minutes or 1 hour 48 minutes but i suspect 48 minutes).

They have been legit for a long time offering a lot of good odds and yes they still can't send you money in 10-20 minute averages which nitrogen clearly can but I don't know if just because of that they are so much worse than nitrogen.

I am still in between if I should go with nitrogen or bitcoinrush when it comes to small stuff, I know it says a lot that when it comes to big bets like super bowl I prefer nitrogen but for daily regular weekend games bitcoinrush is as legit as anyone else to me.

Thanks for the feedback sana.
1042  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: March 01, 2019, 02:47:40 AM
Made a 0.15BTC earlier today, will leave a review after I play a bit

An update for Betbit. Made a 0.15BTC deposit and took a bonus. I had issues with the bonus but their forum account was active in getting back to me and helping me out. Won about 0.15BTC, which I withdrew and I received the funds about 10 minutes after the withdraw request. Only complaint I really have is lack of 2FA.
Thanks Darkstar.
1043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any on-chain sportsbetting websites alive? on: March 01, 2019, 02:46:24 AM
I used to be a fan of DirectBet where I was referred to by my friend. It was so easy there to place a bet and get it graded immediately after winning/losing it and getting our funds directly into the wallet. I don't really want that account making and KYC issues, need to know if there are any more genuine on-chain sportsbetting websites currently available? After watching cloudbet turning into scam by not paying that winner, I think it is best to stay away from these sites and choose a site like DirectBet.

The top 3 books rarely ask for KYC.

"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)                
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.new#new
1044  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betonline Review : Find a Quick Way to Betonline Sportsbook on: February 26, 2019, 09:42:01 PM
Betcoin.ag has become a great sportsbook without any problems on the sportsbook side. Betonline was caught cheating in live blackjack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOjSWjbKhuw
1045  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 24, 2019, 02:50:55 PM
1046  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 21, 2019, 07:37:43 AM
Cloudbet raised from "D-" to "D+".  The player claims that Cloudbet paid the 330 BTC that was owed. This was a highly publicized case on many forums.


That's right, but they are still in "D" rated books  which is not recommended.
I'll still go with Nitrogensports, they don't have big scam accusations and their odds are very competitive.

~snip~                    
sportsbet.io D- (2016)    

I was browsing all the link in the list, only sportsbet.io are no working, please fix the link.
Thanks Ipwhich, fixed,

"A" and "B" books are recommended.

"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)                
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No


1047  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 21, 2019, 07:04:13 AM
"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)                
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          



1048  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 21, 2019, 07:03:20 AM
Cloudbet raised from "D-" to "D+".  The player claims that Cloudbet paid the 330 BTC that was owed. This was a highly publicized case on many forums.

1049  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 17, 2019, 01:10:44 PM
What do you think about Nitrogensports cancelling a guy's winning parlay, and then not responding to him until he made a thread about it? And the response just said it was "an error"?

Like the responses there say, we all agree bookies have the right to cancel a bet, but in this case, this was no good reason for cancelling the line, just because they didn't like it. If we allow it once, will they continue to do it again? What if people didn't complain?

All they did was refund his wager, but in fact he WON 2 legs and pushed half of his 3rd leg (won the other half).


I need the player to shoot me a PM so that I can look in to it.
1050  Economy / Gambling / Re: Nitrogen Sports Is A Pure Scam canceling winning bets on: February 15, 2019, 07:11:13 PM
nope at a push at all it was a win 1.25 is added to score being i win thats how soccer spread work..

Support said the was closed because they did not like the line they offered lol.

Th odds where 100% right and everything not a bad line you can check on other sites offering same lines lol
oops, I'm sorry, I read it wrong. Missed the +1.25.
1051  Economy / Gambling / Re: Nitrogen Sports Is A Pure Scam canceling winning bets on: February 15, 2019, 06:58:37 PM
Hello

They have done many sketchy things before but there next thing is a pure scam.


They are now canceling winning bets. As you can see here https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/10e68f6N3pOUTZYR2hoTUh5MXdXZXlYUmRBUT09/r/4915569/.


This is a betslip i placed. They canceled my bet after I won for no reasons other then I won.


You can check on the bet odds and see that they match up perfectly.

There was no wrong lines or anything they just thought it was best to scam as there site has been getting lots more bad publicity and from me locking peoples accounts

you can also see here it was a win
https://www.flashscore.com/match/xh2eVNhA/#match-summary


Genclerbirligi won 2-1. Didn't it help you?

Edit- read bet slip wrong.
1052  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 15, 2019, 03:25:47 AM
Another touch on sportsbet being fishy and a scam.

I have contacted their licensed company in december, never got a response. I contacted askgamblers if I could submit a complaint about sportsbet.io on their website and they said that they do not have them listed this is back in december. Today I visited the sportsbet.io website and I noticed that they have the askgamblers logo on their website as to they being a part of it. I contacted askgamblers and see their response for your self. We all know sportsbet.io will not be here within a few years from now. Certain stuff will happen and they will shut down, you really think they are gonna be here for atleast a 20 years and stay ''legit'' and never got caught for taking matters in their own hands when breaching t&c? go figure.. d- is a compliment.

https://imgur.com/a/Fmq2R19
https://imgur.com/a/J8heR83
Now that it's brought to their attention, they should at least take it down.
1053  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 14, 2019, 07:10:28 PM
Cloudbet needs to drop off from the list. Even D- is not really that good for them right now, I think we all know why. Right now, they are keeping 330 bitcoins of a dude from him and not allow him to get his money back (not even his original deposit amount) and it has been going for about 8 weeks now and they are still denying him all his money and now made a new announcement that they will also not give the money back and sent the case to the curacao egaming to decide who will get the money.

Even tough that is bad enough because its gamblers money and there is no way the money should stay at cloudbet NO MATTER WHAT, I mean how can a result come with "don't pay anyone and keep the money" I don't know but its still bad that they needed to go with a third party to get a result on their own issue.
You make valid points. Let's wait until Curacao egaming's decision before a change.
1054  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 14, 2019, 03:12:19 AM
1055  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 13, 2019, 10:30:11 AM
No changes in ratings. Just moved the email addresses.

"A" and "B" books are recommended.

"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)                
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books            
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)              
cloudbet.com D- (2013)        
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No
1056  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 13, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
I played on a place and won a 0.073 bet and they sent it with such a low fee that I think they might even get the money back. I didn't know that was even possible but apparently that is something you should be careful about, I know this is not a rating (the website is not listed here thankfully) but I implore everyone to be careful about that.

These new places send you your money with such a low fee that after couple of days of zero confirmation the money goes back to them (to the sender in any case) and they just respond with "we sent you the money here is the txid" and do nothing else, the shady sportsbooks of the world always find a way to scam their users and I don't know what could be done to prevent this issue but always take a look at the fee because if its too low then you are not playing on a good website.

Thank god the top 3 never done anything like that because I played for so much bigger amounts in them.
Thanks for the post and warning.
1057  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 12, 2019, 10:10:11 PM
Honestly, it is mostly something bad, it is not that common to talk about something good. If something bad happens on a sportsbook then you come here and talk about it, you open a topic, you complain and what not and do what everyone else does, then you will change their point and increase or decrease accordingly and do whatever. However when something good happens its usually just sportsbook doing everything they suppose to. That's it.

If a sportsbook is not scamming people and giving good odds and help with deposit and withdraws, they are just going on their day like nothing happened and its hard to comment on that. What am I suppose to say, nitrogensport was great during superbowl and also helped people very quickly and we got our money hurray ? That is hard to do and not really common but its the truth. Like they are already a plus so it doesn't matter but they are really good.
I agree that people want to be heard when something is wrong or out of the ordinary. It seems unnecessary to post what is expected but he value of the thread increases when the norm is reinforced along with all problems.
1058  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 12, 2019, 01:20:20 AM
That said, does anyone else have any problems or other experiences, good or bad to share from any book?

Betcoin: No issues at all, support is responsive. Had multiple withdraws in the 0.3BTC to 0.6BTC range get processed without issue in under 20 minutes. Only minor annoyance were some low limits on certain bets (IIRC was only able to place < 100 mBTC on a Super Bowl 1st Quarter Under bet).

BitcoinRush: Had a withdraw of ~0.5BTC, took about 12 hours. I get "Failed to submit bet" errors very rarely which last until they fix it, and it can be annoying at times.

If someone is playing at Betbit, post a review. A rating will go up soon. Thanks

Made a 0.15BTC earlier today, will leave a review after I play a bit

Thanks Darkstar, this type of information is very valuable to all here.
1059  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 11, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
BitcoinRush should be a level ahead of Nitrogen and Betcoin.ag.

BitcoinRush has much better odds than Nitrogen or Betcoin.ag. BitcoinRush odds are identical to Pinnacle!

BitcoinRush also has a much better website and interface than Nitrogen. I can't believe Nitrogen hasn't upgraded their website. Very clunky.

I play at Fairlay because they have Pinnacle odds and a greater selection of matches and alternate odds than all of them.
Thanks for the input. Nothing is wrong with Bitcoinrush. The biggest difference between Bitcoinrush and the top two are their withdrawal times and markets offered. All 3 books are recommended and all 3 are easy to work with as far as communication.

1060  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 11, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
May I ask what made bitcoinrush to drop in the rating? Not to defend them or anything don't get me wrong, I have no relation, I just play there time to time and I want to know the reason so maybe I will withdraw from playing there as well. I am checking and last time I checked it was A- and now its B+ and even tough its not a big change it still shows here and dropping from the A team to B makes it more obvious so one obviously wonders why it happened since it can't be for nothing.

When you are posting your new listings with new ratings, it would be suuuperb if you could also share why a place went up or why a place went down so we can know what happened, sometimes you do that like sportsbet you did but sometimes we just happen to realize it and wouldn't notice otherwise.
Bitcoinrush is a very good book. The reason they were dropped is that their withdrawal times have been slower since when they were moved from B+ to A-. The withdrawals were from both personal withdrawals along with what's posted in their thread. They have made some changes and if their withdrawals speed up on a consistent bases, they will move up again. Nitrogen and Betcoin are running less than 15 minutes. If a book can consistently make payouts within 2 hours, that is sufficient.

edit- Raven, you make a good point. In the future I will post reasons for an upgrade or downgrade.
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