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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 05:20:30 PM
Who cares? Technology is a genie that once let out of the bottle can not be put back in. It will be with us forever. Bureaucrats and systems of record and title transfer come and go. In the long march of time even mountains are reduced to dust by the simple flowing of water. Technology is like the water and Bureaucrats are not even close to being mountains.
No I get what you are saying. Perhaps blockchain will eventually find it's way into a few other places here and there where it makes sense to have it.

Though if the next 30 years go by and I still can't legally transfer a car title to another person for free via a decentralized blockchain solution, it won't mean much sweat to me as I'll probably be close to death anyway, lol.

If it does happen in the next 30 years it will be because political jurisdictions are in a sort of competition with one another. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller jurisdictions implement as much of this kinda stuff as they can in order to attract expats.
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
Idk. This is meme kinda true. But there is a huge range of applications out there where we dont NEED blockchain, but it would still be really cool!

I would love to have my vehicle ownership represented by a colored coin. I could use a trezor like device to start it up and no one would ever be cracking that security. I could transfer ownership via blockchain and it would be amazingly smooth and so much easier and nicer than a traditional title transfer. I could allow someone limited access to it like if my buddy wanted to borrow my car on Tuesday I could just temporarily authorize his digital signature with my digital signature and I could do it remotely.

Yes and in a perfect world, this is how it should work. You should have the power to transfer title of ownership of something you own directly to another party without a third party in the middle. But that's the problem. When state-run Bureaus of Motor Vehicles have centralized control of title issuance, transfer, and registration of motor vehicles, and of course make revenue off of that activity, then why would they ever relinquish that power back to the individual?

Also, I wouldn't doubt that state-run BMV's will eventually try to implement some sort of blockchain solution behind the scenes as a 'calling card' to say that they are trying to do something. But I don't think it would be more efficient that what they have today.

Who cares? Technology is a genie that once let out of the bottle can not be put back in. It will be with us forever. Bureaucrats and systems of record and title transfer come and go. In the long march of time even mountains are reduced to dust by the simple flowing of water. Technology is like the water and Bureaucrats are not even close to being mountains.
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 04:46:51 PM


Idk. This is meme kinda true. But there is a huge range of applications out there where we dont NEED blockchain, but it would still be really cool!

I would love to have my vehicle ownership represented by a colored coin. I could use a trezor like device to start it up and no one would ever be cracking that security. I could transfer ownership via blockchain and it would be amazingly smooth and so much easier and nicer than a traditional title transfer. I could allow someone limited access to it like if my buddy wanted to borrow my car on Tuesday I could just temporarily authorize his digital signature with my digital signature and I could do it remotely.

Yea I guess all of that could be done with a service provided by a firm on a centralized database, but it would be nicer in several ways to have it recorded on a public blockchain instead. There would be less counter party risk. There would be less security risk. And it would be permissionless, man I hate asking for permission.

So I get it. People out there saying "Blockchain is going to revolutionize supply chain management, blockchain is going to replace traditional contracts, BLOCKCHAIN IS GOING TO REPLACE ALL OF THE THINGS!" are wrong, but I think people like Jimmy Song are also overstating their case in the other direction. We will be able to find a lot more awesome and legitimately practical uses for this technology than just cryptocurrency.
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 01:04:47 PM

I don't see what is controversial about my statement... which part of my statement is controversial?  

my doubting of the moon landing or my confidence that the earth is not flat?

doubting the moon landing...seriously, that shit is cray

i find it hard to believe people that are otherwise reasonably intelligent can still believe that moon landings were faked.

mental block?  lack of knowledge the technical aspects? brain washing? wishful thinking? whatever it is.. well enjoy your beliefs.




It's funny, they're skeptical about landings, but not launches. Smiley Launches are the hardest, most expensive part, not landings.


We launch all the time with no problem these days, If all that stuff that came after the launches is so easy, why do we never just throw in the 10% more effort on any one of the modern launches and go back some time? I'm not arguing the moon landing was a hoax here. Just pointing out the obvious followup question to what you said.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 03, 2018, 04:36:52 AM
ADVANCING MONERO HARDWARE WALLET
https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/90126/advancing-monero-hardware-wallet

If you haven't donated yet please do! This is one of the more important and exciting funding requests yet. Currently sitting at 24.46% funded.



Hey it got funded! Thank you binaryFate! You have my adoration, 65 XMR is extremely generous.
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 03:12:12 AM
I find way more probability that the moon landing and some of that crap about men going to the moon to be a lot less likely to be true than the nonsense that is spouted out about the earth being flat...

Oh       my     fucking      god
you've got to be shitting me dude....

I don't see what is controversial about my statement... which part of my statement is controversial?  

my doubting of the moon landing or my confidence that the earth is not flat?

Oh I c what u did there. Different times words mean different things. When I grew up and still when I/we (my peers) say fags we mean pansies as in no balls. I couldn't care less if you hump a log or a furry.

For me it was always about people acting in a manner that draws attention to themselves that they ought to be embarrassed about, but of course arent, because they were after all trying to draw attention to it. Southpark had it right when they said that people on loud motorcycles are fags, or more traditionally but also appropriate people who act flamboyant, or those people who wear spandex when they ride a bike or people who's cars bounce or make loud booms, those stupid eye lashes on cars, people with a "popped" collar or those stupid hats that have the bill perfectly flat and a sticker still on them from a store in the mall called "lidz". Anything that is intended to draw attention and once it does draw your attention you are like, jesus h christ I wish I never been coerced into realizing that you existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k4Fsg11-w
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2018, 07:04:25 PM
Hey all you tough talking Jew haters where are your balls now you, fags?

I'm standing up to Goldman BallSacks and I don't see any of you anywhere.

Poloniex is not some small fly by night exchange now it is a Gargantuan Financial institution backed by Goldman BallSacks.

Is Polo liable?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4400856.0

I only have a grand or 2 on there but it is the fact they are trying to take away our rights that I cannot abide. I could easily verify and get my funds but I know there are many who cannot. So I am willing to stand up for us all, but I will need support people, so stand the fuck up.
Ok well, just in case that was partly directed at me since I have posted in here before about the JQ I guess I'll respond. The people who control the media, banks and academia are Jewish, and those people are our enemies. That said I certainly wouldn't consider myself a "jew hater". Some random dentist who is a Jew does not have my animus. I am foremost an individualist. Now Goldman Sachs hater? Yea, sure.

As for your cause. I read your post. It sounds interesting. I don't know enough about the law to comment on it. If you did talk to a lawyer and found out that goldman had done something illegal, sure I would join you in a class action against goldman if I could. They are evil bastards and part of the reason I am in the crypto space is to hurt them and if that was another way to do it than I would welcome a multi pronged approach. But you just need to talk to a lawyer bro. It won't be expensive to find out if you have a case. Find out if your idea has any merit. Then talk to us.


They want to begin the run by being the biggest coin holder in the pond.

What do you think Anon136? Have you observed this in the past?
That's what it's about isn't it. It's not about them having the coins, they already have plenty of coins, it's about others on the exchange NOT having them. So that said others can not impede the bull run by selling on the exchange during the way up. That is the insight I was missing. Shake everyone else out so that there are no sellers.
Exactly! They want only buyers left on the way up. The guppies are the exchange buyers that are simply riding on the momentum trade, chasing the wave. The whales want to be the only sellers at the blowoff top, in complete control of the float on the exchange markets so they can decide/control when to massively short/dump and wipe everyone else out. Then scoop up cheap(er) coins on the bounce.
Very insightful. I bet you are exactly right.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2018, 06:20:54 PM
They want to begin the run by being the biggest coin holder in the pond.

What do you think Anon136? Have you observed this in the past?

That's what it's about isn't it. It's not about them having the coins, they already have plenty of coins, it's about others on the exchange NOT having them. So that said others can not impede the bull run by selling on the exchange during the way up. That is the insight I was missing. Shake everyone else out so that there are no sellers.
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2018, 05:04:32 AM
Of course, we've seen times before where the deep pocket whales begin the next bull run with a bang, aka a massive dump/short and stop loss hunt to liquidate all the of the leveraged longs first. If the whales accumulate for a long sideways period, this would give them the ammo they need. So I imagine the next bull run trigger will start with something like that. It could take us spiking down briefly to the $5K range in a flash, before heading back up.

Running stops seems to be fundamentally about acquiring product and not so much about effecting the price. Do whales need the coins that are on offer on the exchanges? It seems to me that a whale would interact with an exchange for the purpose of effecting the price more than the purpose of accumulating/liquidating his position. If he were either accumulating or liquidating he would want to do either of those things OTC because if he were accumulating he wouldn't want to drive the price up and if he were liquidating he wouldn't want to drive the price down. So he makes changes to his position OTC but perhaps he tries to use a small portion of his stash to manipulate the price down before making an OTC purchase and vice a verca before making an OTC sale.

I'm not really trying to argue against you here. I'm mostly just interested in how you will respond to these thoughts.
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2018, 01:05:39 AM
The problem is that most people are stupid and can't think critically.

It's worse than that. I have found that most people can not think abstractly. As soon as I attempt to use abstract reasoning normal people accuse me of changing the subject...

Yes, I encounter that phenomenon every day I post in this thread.

No. The average random person is like some 50 year old lady on one of those scooters at Walmart. She really can not think in terms of anything that isn't a real concrete part of her physical world. That doesn't apply to people in this thread at all. Everyone in this thread is capable of abstract reasoning, even you are much much smarter than the average random person. Your problem is that your arguments are bad. They tend to have an element of truth to them, but they are always grossly overstated and full of strict black and white binaries that don't represent the nuances of real world. Your thinking always lacks nuance roach.
391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 04:31:18 PM
It's worse than that. I have found that most people can not think abstractly. As soon as I attempt to use abstract reasoning normal people accuse me of changing the subject...

Then they're ripe for enslavement and the pounding of your authority into them with your mighty weener every night. They'll thank you eventually.

392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 04:25:44 PM
The problem is that most people are stupid and can't think critically.

It's worse than that. I have found that most people can not think abstractly. As soon as I attempt to use abstract reasoning normal people accuse me of changing the subject...
393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 03:56:04 PM

Also, I saw this a few days ago. Really shocking.

TV news mind control in action. Stick to the script!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL1zwMtz_Ho



holy fuck


shared

Well, they aren't wrong.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wall Observer BCH/USD - Bcash price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 02:28:27 PM
Is Bcash dead? No moon? No lambo?

Block size still not big enough.

Need another simple hard fork to double the block size.

Then moon.

Higher block size = bigger price.

What kinda cuck only doubles the block size when he forks.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 01, 2018, 02:27:19 PM
What do everyone think about the deep anonymity of encrypted currency?Some countries do not seem to welcome it, and recent south Korean exchanges are likely to reject the issue of deep anonymity.

Quantify "Deep".

It's just a signature campaign bot.
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 03:37:04 AM
-insert dream about becoming rich via shitcoins so he can play videogames all day-

Sorry roach. That ship already sailed. I bought bitcoin @ $30, NXT @ like $0.001, Monero @ $4 and IOTA @ $0.01.

I would be rich af if I didn't take profit like it was my religion but I can still play video games all day if I want.

What price did you buy bitconnect at?

I just listed everything that I ever bought that was even remotely like a cryptocurrency. That includes ERC20 tokens, ICO's, everything. If it wasn't on that list I didn't buy it. And I dumped NXT and IOTA (the more scammy ones listed) entirely after I had locked in a good profit. I didn't "believe in" them or "hodl" them. As of now I only own Monero and Bitcoin.

*correction* I owned a little bit of litecoin and the original bytecoin a LONG time ago. Nothing serious there. Just messing around a bit with those two back when there were only even a few altcoins in existence.

I was just kidding. It sounds like you got in at some nice entry points. I got my Monero at around that price, and am still holding a good chunk of it.

Oh sorry. I didn't realize that you were kidding. Np though.
397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 03:26:00 AM
-insert dream about becoming rich via shitcoins so he can play videogames all day-

Sorry roach. That ship already sailed. I bought bitcoin @ $30, NXT @ like $0.001, Monero @ $4 and IOTA @ $0.01.

I would be rich af if I didn't take profit like it was my religion but I can still play video games all day if I want.

What price did you buy bitconnect at?

I just listed everything that I ever bought that was even remotely like a cryptocurrency. That includes ERC20 tokens, ICO's, everything. If it wasn't on that list I didn't buy it. And I dumped NXT and IOTA (the more scammy ones listed) entirely after I had locked in a good profit. I didn't "believe in" them or "hodl" them. As of now I only own Monero and Bitcoin.

*correction* I owned a little bit of litecoin and the original bytecoin a LONG time ago. Nothing serious there. Just messing around a bit with those two back when there were only even a few altcoins in existence.
398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2018, 02:06:21 AM
-insert dream about becoming rich via shitcoins so he can play videogames all day-

Sorry roach. That ship already sailed. I bought bitcoin @ $30, NXT @ like $0.001, Monero @ $4 and IOTA @ $0.01.

I would be rich af if I didn't take profit like it was my religion but I can still play video games all day if I want.
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2018, 06:36:26 PM
...
A bull market will not deter realr0ach. Just like a roach, he is tenacious. During a bull run, we are bound to hear the exact same arguments again and again. We will also hear much about Bitfinex painting the tape with Tethers. R0ach used to be a trader. However, I believe that he was turned off by the bullshit he perceived as happening with Bitfinex. When Bitfinex has "hacked" in late 2016, I think that was the final straw for him. Perhaps if Bitfinex would just go belly up, that would make R0ach go away. However, there are a lot more players in this space pulling some dubious shit, so I doubt it.

E.g. BitMEX that has been running its own for-profit trading subsidiary on its own platform...

Regarding realr0ach, most of you are getting to worked up over his posts.
Just grab a cold beverage of your choice and print out your own realr0ach Bingo card and follow
the thread Wink



I've known many trolls in my day and realr0ach is by far one of the more entertaining. I don't really even mind him. Look at that meme you just made, it's awesome and hilarious and it wouldn't exist without him. He's almost like our pet or something.
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2018, 06:02:32 PM
Coinbase has launched "Coinbase Custody".
https://custody.coinbase.com/

This is an important step towards Wall Street adoption and SEC approval for ETF. Unlike futures, the custody means that coinbase is buying the bitcoins and storing them securely for their clients. If say, 5 bln is invested in bitcoins, this would mean theoretically 666 666 bitcoins at the price of $7500. Currently in Gdax there are 7500 bitcoins on ask orders up to the price 19000. Well, some action is about to begin, that's for sure!

"Today, the more than $365 billion invested in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is owned almost entirely by individual investors—not by Wall Street institutions....
https://thebitcoin.pub/t/why-coinbases-cryptocurrency-business-could-jump-50/41244"

https://dailyhodl.com/2018/05/25/coinbase-4-new-crypto-products-can-unlock-10-billion-of-institutional-investor-money/


Institutional investment could make the bull market of 2017 look like foreplay... no not even that... hand holding.
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