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521  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2018, 05:10:49 PM
Do yourself a favor and get a Ledger or Trezor.
Or Digital Bitbox or Keepkey
Bitbox has 2nd dummy wallet with secondary login and passcode and looks just like any usb stick so can be used anywhere without anyone noticing
Keepkey has biggest screen and stylish

Hardware wallets terrify me for some reason. Not 100% sold on them yet, being an old crotchety Bitcoin "Core" user from day one. I feel more in control of my encrypted wallet.dat / IT OpSec / interfacing with something I have the option of building from source.

I'm concerned about being locked into a hardware wallet's ecosystem... I really need to look into them more.

Hm well there is always remote signing on an air gaped computer. I don't think intel's security flaws could compromise that method of doing things in any way. Not without a stuxnet level of sophistication attack. Maybe theoretically possible but not even close to practically possible. https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/desktop/windows/armory/
522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2018, 03:19:40 PM

It's shit like this that keeps me up at night.

Cold sweats and all.

How the fuck can I ever know my Bitcorns are truly secure running on Intel ?

I get nervous every time I need to type in my decryption key to send a payment.

Terrifying.

Dude, we are getting to the point where hardware wallets are not optional. Either buy a hardware wallet and play the bitcoin game or sell your bitcoin and go put your money in wells fargo. Pick one IMO.

I like my trezor but the guys over at coinkite https://coldcardwallet.com/ claim their product will be better due to using secure hardware.
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2018, 06:00:26 AM
people believe in terraforming but climate change is a myth?

Someday when it comes time to terraform our first planet we can just build lots of cars with no catalytic converters and drive them around on the surface.
524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2018, 05:12:07 AM
General reminder that co2 is not a pollutant, comrade.

Not a pollutant for plants, they love it.
However, increasing Co2 does affect mental functions.
see graphs: 21% decrease in mental functions upon doubling of Co2 from 400ppm (now) to 800
https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/co2-on-the-brain-and-the-brain-on-co2
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At some threshold yet to be defined but thought to be around a 1000 ppm, human cognition will begin to be negatively impacted. Latest research indicates we could attain this threshold outdoors in the next century, and the dissipation of CO2 in our atmosphere takes centuries.

Regardless on the "politically charged" question of what is causing it (the Co2 increase), if it increases, we will be progressively live in Idiocracy.
Sometimes I already feel it in talking to some people (not here).
Maybe, this is the Great Filter (a concept explaining the absence of visible super-civilizations a.k.a Fermi Paradox).
Now you just need to explain how a doubling could possibly happen.

That's the damn problem with catastrophic predictions, if it is built on one thing that can't happen the whole thing falls apart.

You guys should ressurect this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=374873.4300 it was a hoot. 200+ pages long too.
525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 03, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
What do we think of the Georgia Guidestones?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

It is known that there is a group of elites out there who have a vision for the world that involves massive depopulation. They are not all powerful or anything like some Illuminati myths would have you believe. They are one faction out of maybe four major power factions on the planet. Their leaders are mostly Jewish intellectuals and can be thought of loosely as the neo-liberal establishment. It is reasonably safe to assume that at least some within that clique would be willing to accomplish the depopulation they desire through cataclysm if necessary.

Ah yes, that seems much more plausible then "the most widely agreed-upon interpretation of the stones is that they describe the basic concepts required to rebuild a devastated civilization.[2] Author Brad Meltzer notes that the stones were built in 1979 at the height of the Cold War, and thus argues that they may have been intended as a message to the possible survivors of a nuclear World War III. The engraved suggestion to keep humanity's population below 500 million could have been made under the assumption that war had already reduced humanity below this number."

Funny how "it is known" that there is an unknown organisation. Of which you can make 'reasonable' assumptions.

Anyway, conifers are nice trees. Love to know what they have to do with bitcoin too.

The neo-liberals aren't a secret organization... You can order a subscription to foreign affairs from magazines.com for chirst sake. https://www.magazines.com/foreign-affairs-magazine.html
526  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 03, 2018, 03:25:10 PM
What do we think of the Georgia Guidestones?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

It is known that there is a group of elites out there who have a vision for the world that involves massive depopulation. They are not all powerful or anything like some Illuminati myths would have you believe. They are one faction out of maybe four major power factions on the planet. Their leaders are mostly Jewish intellectuals and can be thought of loosely as the neo-liberal establishment. It is reasonably safe to assume that at least some within that clique would be willing to accomplish the depopulation they desire through cataclysm if necessary.
527  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 03, 2018, 05:27:37 AM
mBTC looks good.  I have to say using Bitcoin for small value purchases is way too hard.

Personally, I like btc, but fully admit that it is difficult. Have to check my zeroes a couple of times.
mBTC would be fleeting too if btc increases 10-100X
We should get to satoshis at $0.01-1.00, then everything would be easy  Grin

I really feel like the whole mBTC and uBTC thing is wrongheaded. We shouldn't be thinking about it as fractions of BTC. We should be thinking in terms of satoshis and building up. Like bytes in computing vs the metric standard. Kilosatoshi (kSat), Megasatoshi (mSat), and Gigasatoshi (gSat), ect... It's so much more natural to think in terms of multiples than fractions. Plus we are much more the spiritual successor of the computing standards than the metric standard. 1 kSat soon to hit 0.1 USD!

With btc increasing about 10X from today, I see it too.
At btc $100K:

Hiring a new developer "Q: What is your current monthly compensation? A: Twenty mega[Sat]s...
Sat is silent, of course.

Haha 20 mega sounds awesome.
528  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 03, 2018, 04:33:50 AM
mBTC looks good.  I have to say using Bitcoin for small value purchases is way too hard.

Personally, I like btc, but fully admit that it is difficult. Have to check my zeroes a couple of times.
mBTC would be fleeting too if btc increases 10-100X
We should get to satoshis at $0.01-1.00, then everything would be easy  Grin

I really feel like the whole mBTC and uBTC thing is wrongheaded. We shouldn't be thinking about it as fractions of BTC. We should be thinking in terms of satoshis and building up. Like bytes in computing vs the metric standard. Kilosatoshi (kSat), Megasatoshi (mSat), and Gigasatoshi (gSat), ect... It's so much more natural to think in terms of multiples than fractions. Plus we are much more the spiritual successor of the computing standards than the metric standard.

If bitcoin ever becomes so capitalized that 1 satoshi is like a dollar, well then we just use it like we do currencies now. 0.01 satoshis would feel be pretty natural as a penny. And really if we get to this point again where things start costing 0.00001 satoshis, well that is a problem I can live with.

1 kSat soon to hit 0.1 USD! Anyone think we can see kSat USD parity this year? Grin
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 02, 2018, 03:34:00 PM
Maybe my clever spambotish English joke passed you all by. Sorry

*OK edited for less clarity*   Grin

Oh ok. Yea, I think you were a little too coherent.
530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2018, 03:31:05 PM
the next positive forcast will get 1 smerit

According to https://howlonguntiltrumpleaves.com/ there are only 993 days left. Compared to yesterday, that's positive.

You do realize who ever comes next will probably be worse, right? Not saying trump is an angel or anything but it will probably be someone sort of socialist or communist next time.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 02, 2018, 02:53:24 PM




I say people can come closer to the subject


You are no fun!   Grin

Plus I post OT in here all the time and people ignore it.

The way I look at it is it sort of depends what's going on. If there is vigorous and lively on topic discussion happening than don't interrupt it. If it's a slow day an no one is talking about anything anyway, why the heck not.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 02, 2018, 01:58:54 AM
Monero could be a good investment because many people consider investing in digital currencies. Since our technological world is changing, you can transact fast, secure, and anonymously. It uses a technology similar to the Virtual Private Network, thus defining itself as untraceable.
Thank you for your enlightening post and wonderful thoughts which will no doubt widen and deepen the level of the debate here on this thread...  

The interesting links shown in your signature made your post all the more welcome.

His post could be good investment advice because it contained many different words and several parts of speech. It was similar to many other posts of which some were longer and others were shorter, thus defining itself as indispensable.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 01, 2018, 08:14:35 PM
Haha. Have you ever seen this? Actually Ironic
534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 06:21:37 PM
A 15 meter boat is Too Damn Big. If you can't handle it on your own, in a stiff breeze, don't even bother. If a 30 footer is too small for your crew, then better to get two boats instead.

See that's what I'm talking about. That sounds like a yes vote for a new thread! It seems like there are a surprising number of people here who are interested in yachts/boats.

Once you get into boating, everybody knows, it is never big enough. You'll always need a bigger boat.

No. This is totally false. Once the boats get to a certain size I would definitely stop thinking about bigger boats and start thinking about spacecraft.
535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
In a bull day I have not come here to read about pet food. Grin
You guys are nuts.

On a completely different note, a few weeks ago bitcoin was dead but now...
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/04/12/bitcoin-could-triple-in-price-by-years-end-says-fundstrats-tom-lee.html
In a bear day I have not come here to read about yachts. Grin

You guys are definitely nuts.
I wonder what will happen next time I am going to enter the WO Cool

Next bull run, people talk about what helicopter on their yacht’s flight deck.

Maybe it's just the sort of talk that we need in order to help get out of this bear rut?

That was great though. Lols were had.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 01, 2018, 05:48:03 PM
Japan government will probably ban anonymous cryptocurrencies such as Monero or Dash. Do you think that this will happen?

Wouldn't that be funny. If dash got banned for it's marketing claims that it's anonymous even though it Isn't. I wonder if they would try have their cake and eat it too by explaining to Japanese authorities how it isn't anonymous but telling everyone else to just ignore that. That would be the worst of both worlds for them, banned for being anonymous while not being anonymous enough to protect it's users from said ban. Maybe monero could survive being banned for being anonymous because it actually is, but all the dash users would just be tracked down on the blockchain for using an "anonymous currency". Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
But I still do not understand this kind of anonymity.
When you buy or sell Monero, probably you will use exchanges.
Only way how to exchange these anonymous cryptocurrencies is on the street?

Well the stuff about dash not being anonymous isn't animosity, that's just facts. But I guess there was a little bit of animosity with the bit near the end where I was imagining that potential beautiful irony.

The animosity comes from the fact that they are a complete and total scam/fraud yet still their market cap is around about the same as our legitimate project. That's frustrating you know. Watching that day in and day out.  It just wears on you. It can make one a little bit bitter.

Incidentally, watching dash day in and day out for years now, I really feel like I empathize with car company executives. That must be what it's like to be an executive at Ford watching Tesla except 100 times worse. Here ford is making tons of really great products at really competitive prices and they are having to cut product lines to stay in business. While Tesla never needs to make a profit, hardly even makes any cars, relies on welfare and their marketcap is something like 50 times greater than fords. But Tesla doesn't need products when it has better marketing! Not unlike our friend dash. Can you imagine. When ever you think we have it bad. Imagine what it must be like to be a auto manufacturer exec.
537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 05:35:22 PM
That doesn't look like something I could afford. I spend my time looking at boats I can afford Grin That's for like racing or something right? I have a family to lug around too.

The cat is interesting tho. Ill check it out.

A used 40' catamaran for $120-150k is the best option there.  I'm partial to 40' cats because they have nice back porches you can sit on with a laptop or something or cook on a grill/drink.  The back porch is kind of essential because no matter how hot it is, you can always sit out there and it won't be too bad, as opposed to being locked inside of a monohull below feeling like you're trapped inside of a ninja turtles lunch box left out in the sun.


There are definitely strong arguments to be made for cats. No doubt. Also if you ever take anyone out who has sea sickness they will be so much happier. And all your stuff wont be sloshing around below deck. And you can actually cook without hurting yourself. And they typically move a bit quicker since they have a shallower draft. My only problem is by the time they actually get up to decent quality and out of that "ikea furniture" range they are devastatingly expensive.

But you know I'm just gathering all of this from the best piecemeal research I can accomplish on the internet. I have never had the chance to get out there and look at these things in person. Hoping to be able to do that soon.
538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 05:20:53 PM
Damn, you guys are into boring boats.  I've always liked the Corsair C37 for some reason.  It's a fast trimaran with a stand up shower and decent interior.  Supposedly unsinkable:

That doesn't look like something I could afford. I spend my time looking at boats I can afford Grin That's for like racing or something right? I have a family to lug around too.

The cat maybe more practical for me. Ill take a look at all of them though. The Corsair C37 is pretty crazy looking.

*edit* Oh the Lucia is just the 40 foot Fountaine Pajot. Yea I've looked at that one. As with seemingly all the cats the interior looks so chincy. Like its built out of ikea furniture.
539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 05:11:35 PM
A 15 meter boat is Too Damn Big. If you can't handle it on your own, in a stiff breeze, don't even bother. If a 30 footer is too small for your crew, then better to get two boats instead.
See that's what I'm talking about. That sounds like a yes vote for a new thread! It seems like there are a surprising number of people here who are interested in yachts/boats.

I think a new Yacht/Boat thread should have a spiritual link to it's fork from the WO thread.

Could we call the new thread "Wall Observer BTC/Yachts - Bitcoin price/wave movement tracking & discussion"

"Yacht Observer - Yacht affordability, tracking & discussion"?
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 01, 2018, 05:01:18 PM
Japan government will probably ban anonymous cryptocurrencies such as Monero or Dash. Do you think that this will happen?

Wouldn't that be funny. If dash got banned for it's marketing claims that it's anonymous even though it Isn't. I wonder if they would try have their cake and eat it too by explaining to Japanese authorities how it isn't anonymous but telling everyone else to just ignore that. That would be the worst of both worlds for them, banned for being anonymous while not being anonymous enough to protect it's users from said ban. Maybe monero could survive being banned for being anonymous because it actually is, but all the dash users would just be tracked down on the blockchain for using an "anonymous currency". Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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