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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 01, 2018, 04:55:01 PM
coin of choice for pedophiles and cybercriminals

Thanks for your endorsement. Glad to hear its working for you.

We also use it for other things too.



Hey wait a second. You just admitted you're a pedophile Cheesy

What else do you use it for, qualuudes and webcams?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Oh man that would almost be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad and true.

Don't blame me. Blame bitcointalk for making this thread appear at the top of my new replies every day.

It isn't bitcointalk that does that. It's us being the most active community around here.
542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 04:50:28 PM
A 15 meter boat is Too Damn Big. If you can't handle it on your own, in a stiff breeze, don't even bother. If a 30 footer is too small for your crew, then better to get two boats instead.

See that's what I'm talking about. That sounds like a yes vote for a new thread! It seems like there are a surprising number of people here who are interested in yachts/boats.
543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2018, 04:32:47 PM
 I seem to recall reading about some brand new $300k+ Beneteau where the keel just fell off, instantly sinking the boat and killing the guy.

The chances for that to happen again is the same as getting struck by a lightning on a sunny day.

Many people died because of faulty Tesla cars too. Do we say Tesla's are death traps?

You should never buy a $20k boat which is 20 years old though. That's a death trap.

Oh no! why did I unignore roach. daym.

Btw people are not shifting to catamarans. You are pulling from ass again. Monohulls are always the king shit.

We should make a yacht thread. I bet there would be plenty enough people on this forum interested in that.

I love the use of space on the new Najad 395. Enough room for the whole family on a <40 footer. And that Scandinavian quality. Be still my heart. No pictures of the 395 out on the water that I can find since it's so new, so ill just include a random picture of a 450.

544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 30, 2018, 04:45:17 AM
I think bitfinex should be considered a total and complete black market scam artist exhange.

I told you people that every day for the last 4-5 years.  That's one reason I despise bitcoin.  The entire bitcoin market is controlled by a single trader/entity operating on Bitfinex ever since the price was $200.  Said entity naked shorted the market during the halving in huge volume and could not cover his shorts, then Bitfinex mysteriously claims they were hacked right after and stole everyone's bitcoins in order to cover the shorts.  

In order for this entity to operate on Bitfinex, it's 100% required for Bitfinex staff to be in on it, so it's either the Bitfinex owners themselves who control the whole market through fraud, or Bitfinex owners colluding with Chinese mining cartel, or they're issued some type of gag order and it's the ESF or Goldman Sachs or something manipulating the market.  In the GATA archives it was uncovered the ESF attempts to introduce high volatility into the metals markets on purpose to make it seem like a less valid monetary instrument or store of value, so the govt/bankers themselves might even be running the bitcoin pump and dumps for this very reason.

That explanation would only make sense if you believe the govt did not create bitcoin.  If the govt did create bitcoin, it would likely be the ESF propping up their scam to try and lure people into these imaginary, worthless tokens and distract them from sound money (silver or gold).  Either way, the entire bitcoin price is based on Bitfinex fraud.  So the question is:  what is the real price of bitcoin without Bitfinex fraud?  Nobody knows.  They pumped the market via this tether scam, so I imagine it would be lower and somewhere between $200-$3000.

545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: April 30, 2018, 04:10:13 AM
Whelp darkcoin just passed us. There is no justice in the world is there?
546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 29, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
Buying/trading for and holding some obscure crypto coin or token, on promises and wishful thinking that its supposed features will cause it to skyrocket in popularity in the future (with no parameters that define when "future" comes), is just the stupidest mentality imaginable. It's like a mental sickness.
Worked well enough for me with IOTA, Monero, NXT and Bitcoin. Bitcoin was definitely "some obscure crypto coin" when I first arrived here.
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: April 29, 2018, 02:42:14 PM
What will happen next after the hardfork?

I'm sure there will be more people who try to exploit it and make their own viable fork out of it. However each time these people will be met with less and less success. This is part of the reason why hard forking every six months is such a great idea. It's like an inoculation against more dangerous fork attempts.
548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 27, 2018, 04:00:08 AM
Wow monero really under performing other alts. This is unusual. We are about to be overtaken by That Which Shall Not Be Named. Any idea what's going on?
549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wall Observer BCH/USD - Bcash price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2018, 01:23:06 AM
Come on dude! it is a very lame move selling bch, we got it from the fork and there is nothing to lose in HODLing it... If we sell bch, it would be very scary to HODL bitcoin too. I know people will hate what am saying but come on - let's face the reality that these two coins are threat to one another. Let's play safe and HODL both. In fact, the price is not bad at all... who knows maybe next year it would reach $8000, there is no harm in HODLing it.
This is a perfect summary of why bitcash is even still a thing. It is exactly this attitude. No sorry. Holding bcash is validating bullshit. I refuse to do it. I'm not saying your argument is wrong, it's just that holding bcash "just in case" would make me feel dirty.
550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2018, 03:59:04 AM
What is going on? Shocked
Watched $9695 go down to $9490 in a matter of minutes.
Nearly $200 slide something bad is going on. Embarrassed

It's super normal for that to happen when its running up quickly. Wake me up when we get a daily close < 9000. It won't necessarily mean anything but it will be enough to be interesting. Until then it's barely even noise.
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wall Observer BCH/USD - Bcash price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2018, 03:13:30 AM
^^^^ Soooo... no moon!??

P.S.: No, seriously... I still have around one third of my initial bcash. I do care... somehow. Mixed feelings, though.

What are you doing with your life? Dump that shit. Not just for practical reasons do it on principle. There can be only one bitcoin, no sense being wishy washy about it. The only reason bcash has had any success at all is because of people holding it "just in case", "I better hedge". You gotta decide bro. What is bitcoin?

THERE CAN BE
    ONLY ONE
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2018, 03:06:41 AM
Trying to withdraw my bitcoins from exchange. Every day I can withdraw fewer and fewer. Every day my time table for actually getting them all pulled off gets pushed further and further into the future. Starting to wonder... if it keeps climbing at this rate will I ever get all of my bitcoins off of there? These are good problems to have Grin.
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2018, 02:47:00 AM

you guys ever been in any real weather?

all that glass looks...terrifying
This one time... on the lake... this wicked storm kicked up... Cheesy
554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 07:43:49 PM
So, we are approaching 10k... where are the rockets, trains, that kind of stuff?

2 Birds with 1 stone!

555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 06:35:09 PM
Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, IŽll sell mine.

I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too.

I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k.

Who can know if its the bottom or not? It's called buying the bottom in retrospect, at the time its called catching a falling knife. You have to see some sign that the winds have changed. He waited a bit long probably but still "why don't you just buy the bottom" is a pretty unreasonable standard.
556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wall Observer BCH/USD - Bcash price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 06:15:50 PM
Haha ok. First page real estate. Send bids to Anon136 via private message. Cheesy
557  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 05:55:43 PM
I'm less enthused about sailboats than I was. Getting a new motor boat in the water this year, way faster and more convenient to get around, and they tend to have better indoor space. This one certainly does.
Can you share it with us? I'm curious. I love sailing and I love yachts. It should come as no surprise that I really love when the two of them are together in one package but I still like each of them independently.
Quoting myself here:
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It should be ready to hit the water this spring, gonna toot around on my first boat until it's ready. And when it is, taking a trip from Denmark down through europe.
That sounds awesome. I can't wait to get to a point in my life where I can do something like that.


Mmmm more yacht porn. http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/67783


558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 05:39:15 PM
I don't think we have that consensus quite yet. There is definitely a good sized minority out there who believe that bcash is "the real bitcoin".

...aannd there's your problem right there. If you believe that consensus means that 100% of end users are going to agree on what is the real Bitcoin, then you're never going to achieve consensus. Because that's never going to happen.

Some things in this world are only proven as self-evident. People vote with their fiat.

No I don't. If bcash was like #17 or #37 on coinmarketcap I would call that consensus and be done with it. But it isn't now is it. It's number fucking 3. THREE! It's FIVE TIMES the market cap of Monero, which is a truly exceptional project. It has that status because a sizable minority of people believe that it is the real bitcoin.

*edit* I said 3 instead of 4 because ripple isn't really a cryptocurrency and it's claimed supply isn't actually traded anyway even if it was.

See: Marketcap Manipulation

A few guys with deep pockets can do a lot to increases the apparent value of a coin.

Hopefully that is all it is. If it is than it will quickly become apparent. Deep pockets can only prop up a market for so long.
559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 05:20:33 PM
I don't think we have that consensus quite yet. There is definitely a good sized minority out there who believe that bcash is "the real bitcoin".

...aannd there's your problem right there. If you believe that consensus means that 100% of end users are going to agree on what is the real Bitcoin, then you're never going to achieve consensus. Because that's never going to happen.

Some things in this world are only proven as self-evident. People vote with their fiat.

No I don't. If bcash was like #17 or #37 on coinmarketcap I would call that consensus and be done with it. But it isn't now is it. It's number fucking 3. THREE! It's FIVE TIMES the market cap of Monero, which is a truly exceptional project.

Bcash should be "just another altcoin" at best. I can say that with confidence because looking at the tech you can show that it's privileged position above all of the other rank and file altcoins has nothing to do with tech, there is no special tech there anywhere. So it must be that it's wildly high marketcap comes from something else besides the tech. I think it follows that the thing that sets it apart in this way is that a sizable minority of people believe it is bitcoin.

So there too is my standard for when I would say there is consensus that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. When bcash's marketcap is that of any other rank and file altcoin. Or maybe I would say when it has a value that reflects it's utility.

*edit* I said 3 instead of 4 because ripple isn't really a cryptocurrency and it's claimed supply isn't actually traded anyway even if it was.
560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
I'm less enthused about sailboats than I was. Getting a new motor boat in the water this year, way faster and more convenient to get around, and they tend to have better indoor space. This one certainly does.
Can you share it with us? I'm curious. I love sailing and I love yachts. It should come as no surprise that I really love when the two of them are together in one package but I still like each of them independently.


Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit.
Disengage from Nazi noise too, and you could find even more respect.
That comment was a response to what was being discussed in the thread at that time and it deals with very important issues but I certainly never intended to harp on it in this thread. Also just for clarity I should add that I am definitely not a Nazi. People some times think failure to deny it is some sort of admission of guilt.


Consensus decides what Bitcoin is. If, sometime in the future, consensus dictates that Bcash is the real Bitcoin, I would acknowledge that. However, I'd also acknowledge that Bitcoin has failed, and I would disengage from the space altogether, and focus on Monero or something.
I can respect that answer. I don't think we have that consensus quite yet. There is definitely a good sized minority out there who believe that bcash is "the real bitcoin". Heck one such example was what started this whole discussion. Hopefully bcash will die and we will get that consensus sooner rather than later.
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