he doesnt handle the actual swap funds. only the premine.
the exchange handles the swap and burn. apparently to the parameters he defines.

the important part is, he didnt burn the coins. the exchange did.



no you havent. you've just shown how the figures can add up.
- Did Intrinsin report the numbers? yes.
- Do the numbers match your mathematical calculations? yes.
- Does this mean that Intrinsin is personally responsible for the incorrect calculations?  no.

if you'd read all the previous posts (from those whom you're attacking) with emotional clarity you might have realised this yourself quite some time ago,
as is usually the way when two parties have serious problems in communications, previous assumptions brought to the discussion floor skew other's comments, (emotional involvement further skews perspective, and this "discussion" is totally warped with personal attacks).
so it seems that no-one actually specifically mentioned this because it seems obvious to them, so they were operating under the assumption it should be obvious to you,
BUT you were operating under a different set of assumptions that included much more personal involvement from Intrinsin, therefore you were never able to understand what was obvious to them.

here seems to be the gist ----
Intrinsin tells btcpool what to do, and sends them Digital Credits,
btcpool does everything and tells Intrinsin what happened,
Intrinsin shares this information, but presumably because the block chain fucked up, there are inconsistencies.
Then because you've been trolling so hard with serious emotional bullshit, no-one is telling you exactly what you want to hear and the figures have not been officially reported any differently,
the burn address IS the proof of burn and hence has the correct figure but you are too busy having a great time you continue to push people and act like an ignorant twat.


bwahahaha, I LOVE YOU !!! MARRY ME AND WE'LL HAVE A FAMILY OF LITTLE TROLLS !!!
you banned me because you had difficulties accepting what i was saying, similar pattern to this discussion.


and i was further wrong, banzai is still replying too


You do seem un-healthily obsessed :/
I imagine you'll be continuing the feud with further made up stories and undeserved personal attacks until you die .. telling your Grandchildren about the great shit coin swap feud of 2016 ..

yes you did,
it's verbatim from your thread

no idea as to whether your coins are still valid,
i know not whether there have been any blockchain shenanigans to disrupt them.

but yobit is an exchange for FIND.

have a look on http://findcoin.dcredits.com/index.php
to see what it reports for your address

.edit
also see this post with a copy of the chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13676416#msg13676416

what seems to be the case.
intrinsin doesnt handle the swap, nor the funds, so he has nothing to do with it other than reporting figures from the exchange.

the chain was fucked, that's obvious, even Barr_official seems to have accepted that.
the explorers mis reported, but they seem all to agree now.

i assume even barr_official can be convinced that  any discrepancy has nothing to do with digital credits dev,  
digital credits uses a totally different approach swap approach to Barr so he might be too caught up in his own seriousness to the extent where the obvious hasnt yet occurred to him.
it didnt occur to me until just then, i was also far too distracted by the obvious hysteria . lol .

digital credits dev doesn't handle any of the swap, it's all done by the exchange.
anything he might have reported is NOT from his own figures/calculations.

which does mean if barr_official does want to continue making a fool of himself he needs to perhaps calm down first and consider what he's talking about.

then perhaps he can formulate a useful approach to his attack
perhaps with less hate and he might get a useful answer.

Barr_official has managed to alienate pretty much anyone who cares with his behaviour.
i assume anyone who cares enough is ignoring him and taking his posts as generally full of crap.

however he does raise a seemingly valid point regarding the discrepancy in burn figures.

as this does seem to be an issue, i am hoping to be a calm voice asking intrinsin if he can look at the figures and see what he can see.



block explorer showing receipt of http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn

http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn




edit.
both the dcredits and multifaucets explorers are on the same chain now.
also yobit is on the same block height, so one assumes that there is only one official chain now which is the one with the burn.

lol
such time spent on trolling a shit coin.

results seem to be

a) a fork results in transactions not showing up on a different fork.
ie two explorers can show different results.

good job on that one. we salute runpaint for his hard work in exposing this fact.

b) barr_official is obsessed with his enemy DGCS, and is not afraid of making shit up and attacking the honesty of others.

also good job. your troll level is mighty and you will be revered for generations by all shit coin swap devotees. not only did you manage to attack the integrity of intrinsin but also many others running the explorer and exchange.

c) there does seem to be a discrepancy between amount claimed and amount shown on explorer
"449,479 FIND coins have been burned"
vs
324789.4 shown at http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
see below for more conclusions

and a further good job. it's just  a shame that you had to spend so much time and make up so much obvious falsities to get to one final seemingly legitimate point. (edit however the implications seem much milder than you continue to troll, i blame the fact that no-one seems to have spelt out the answer IN SIMPLE ENOUGH LANGUAGE (see below)).
although if you had done a simpler and clearer job you would have lost the troll level awarded in b),
but you might have actually received an answer. i guess it's up to you whether you'd prefer getting an answer, or prefer attacking peoples integrity mercilessly with little regard to facts.

lol A+ on everything. except for presentation, total #fail on presentation.


personally, if i was intrinsin i would totally ignore (or troll) barr_official, who has shown himself/herself to be a right annoying twat.
anyone who is unsure of Barr_official's personality, then please read his mounting hysteria and general rudeness/personal attacks on the find thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13720149#msg13720149

this awesome behaviour seems to have been going on since DGCS was released? and that post above is far from the beginning.
from my perspective it seems to stem from the fact that BARR is the best thing ever to hit the shitcoin market, and that DGCS is an impostor and must die.

disclosure : barr_official also seems to despise me (and is quite happy to make stuff up attacking my integrity) for suggesting that we use remaining distribution Bumba as a shitcoin swap for Barr. and i am quite happy to troll him as he has shown himself to be quite rude
i also suggested he disclose all his private dealings with Barr as he is using undisclosed personal funds which results in an opaque distribution of Barr to himself. it seems possible he owns the vast majority of distributed Barr but that is an unknown reality.



edit :
and bonus points for getting them to re-sync the explorer, another game changing moment. well done


edit edit :
in regards to c)
later consideration and conclusions ----
it seems that any figures as reported to the swap were from the exchange, as the Digital Credits dev doesnt handle the swap coins at all.

it should be obvious to anyone, that Intrinsin is only responsible for not updating his figures after the dust cleared from the blockchain chaos.
it's obvious then that the burn figures for Find are as reported on the blockchain.
 ie 324789.4 as to the distribution figures for DGCS, either they are the same as previously reported or different

the exchange is responsible for the swap funds, so it seems quite reasonable that the figure quoted is real, with the problems relating to FIND and the blockchain issues.
also it seems that no funds can be missing unless the exchange itself has done something, which seems quite unlikely

that is one of the missing features on the explorer
will have to mention to Presstab, see if he can put some sort of taint detecting wallet conglomeration thingy.

don't forget the fork doesnt take place for more than a month.
i imagine it's got more to do with obfuscating the coins.

i guess you must actually be referring to the thread where the only mention of such is from Barr_dev, whom i quote with no modification.
(Barr_dev/runpaint also hasn't revealed what level of distribution manipulation has resulted from their methods)

tip of the day : if someone quotes someone else, the someone is merely repeating someone else and not creating useful information nor confirming someone elses lies
for example, i quoted you "looking forward to cube's fork", meanwhile i'm not actually looking forward to cube's fork, nor do i have an opinion on your excitement, but am merely repeating the idea that you are looking forward to cube's fork.
so, when i quote you suggesting i dumped Bumbacoin etc, i'm not agreeing with you, nor confirming what you say, i'm merely using the quotation as a pointer for my rejoinder. lol
not even when i personally used the term "i dumped Bumbacoin" above and in direct conversation am i usefully conversing about the idea, but instead i am actually conversing about your mis perception. i am conversing about the idea that you have an idea, not your idea but my idea. so my idea is paramount in the conversation and your idea is not actually being discussed.

i hope that simple logic lesson clears that up

but you're right, i should really stop trolling, it doesnt seem to serve any useful purpose
there's already enough discussion about spots and cube to fill anyones wet dream.

hear hear, chrysophlax for president !!

they cant lock that address, they can only lock the account linked to that address.
if i had any drz2 i could send them to that address and teh blockchains would do what i asked.

what this does imply though, is that those coins are locked by bittrex freezing the account.


while it may appear that bittrex are not doing much, i cant see how they can have done much more than they have.
locking the account and doing some further investigations on their end.

but it does seem that it would be good to find out from them if it is the case that this 200k is locked up

edit
also any withdrawls from that address have nothing necessarily to do with that account,
upon deposit , the funds are pooled in such a way, that anyone withdrawing from bittrex, may end up with funds from that account.

with 2000% interest ?
the only limit is when the code breaks from dealing with too long a string of digits.


edit.
bitcoins halving protocol effectively defines a max coin supply as the ever dwindling rewards will take it closer and closer but never reach 21million.

cubes reward is constant though, so it will continue to increase until the code base it uses is no longer capable of dealing with the coin supply length.
no idea what the theoretical max supply supported by the code is, and no idea when it might reach that point,
1 year, 3 years, 5 years,15 years no idea

we here at bumbacoin thnk that using our remaining Bumba to burn/swap for Barr would be a fine thing to do,
(for those who dont know, Barr is distributed by burning shitcoins for Barr)

upon suggesting this in the barr thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219460.msg13763615#msg13763615

the Barr dev, quickly escalated our conversation.
he is impressively rude with a short politeness window   quickly loses normal social conventions.
which is generally true about most online interactions and bitcointalk in general. lol
.

his general outrage that we could suggset such a thing, led me to unsuccesfully attempt to point out that there is nothing inherently special about Barr that prevent us from burning Barr for Bumbacoin. nor for that matter anything preventing any shitcoin from doing exaclty the same thing Barr is doing.
(he is very satisfied about teh pure genuis that is Barr and seems quite touchy)

i began to focus on two seperate things,which he doesnt seem to appreciate about the nature of Barr.
both of which have some level of importance in my view.

1. the burn process is not trustless.

obviously mistaking his honesty for a trustless situation.

2. the continued injection of funds from the Barr team, creates a manipulated value.
leading to an untrusted situation where there is no transparency regarding Barr actions




it's very simple.
if they purely swapped Barr for shitcoin, there would be no artifical price manipulations from their end.
but as they are actively injecting funds into the process, there is artificial price manipulations from their end.

of course there may still be artificial manipulations, but the point is that they are inadvertently doing so.

.
meanwhile runpaint/barr_dev continues to make big things about their honestly and transparency whilst not keeping either their thread opening posts up to date or website up to date
both lacking current information  on all swaps.

also not realising their active purchasing shitcoin/Barr creates an area open to manipulation which, if they are so gung ho about their open-ness and honesty, should be best treated with transparency about their actions.

at this point, they could own 90% of all "distributed" BARR and no-one would know. (they do already own the vast majority of total coins as the burn fund)

.
none of these things are necessary problems, they could own 100% of Barr for all i care, as long as they are transparent.
involving their personal funds in such a coin/venture gives rise to potential fraudulent activity as long as they are not transparent.



..
here follows some rudeness
- attacking my honesty


- lol. hidden premine, such a low blow



- oh my poor integrity



- i didnt lie once, and he continued to make direct comments about my integrity, and other continued underhand rudeness. in other words, he continued to lie.

i'm just over all impressed with his self righteous indignation.
and while i'm all passive agressive and baby whiney, he is jsut outright snide and rude.

strange how someone can take being called rude as whiney.



edit.
i wonder if they will truly ever burn a dead coin?
how can you make a buy wall on a dead coin?






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just because i do like a good conversation.
-edit
apparently after reading this it is possible to get the impression bumbacoin dumped a bumbacoin premine?
not sure how that is possible to get that impression as it is purely the barr dev making stuff up, but i guess that's the price you pay when you troll. passionate emotions etc make it hard to keep a good logic in place.

There has never been any Bumbacoin Premine dumped.
I hope that clears that up

also Truck and Rate coins

i've moved posts around, to keep information in the OP. this thread started with amusement at Barr_Official/runpaints awesome troll level, but has evolved also into pointing out seeming "questionable or suspicious" behaviours around BARR.

the 2nd post contains my original post, followed by copy/paste chat from Barr thread. mainly for lols

my personal opinion is that runpaint is not a scam dev.
he seems to be operating from naive principles. and is quite respectable at trolling which unfortunately relies too heavily on personal abuse which quickly alienates other parties resulting in fairly one sided conversations as others leave and he remains ...

...…

this contains information obtained prior to the Feb Bowscoin swap.


BARR is a Next Asset shitcoin, it has a distribution model based on burning shitcoins for BARR, also incorporating a burning BARR for OFFS. Seems a good idea.
ANN date October 25, 2015. Launch date November 1, 2015

It seems from a brief analysis, the swaps that have occurred, have been inadvertently heavily skewed in favour of the dev team,
with a vote process seemingly controlled entirely by runpaint, and early coins were publically claimed to be bagheld by runpaint.
Runpaint seems to currently hold at least ~61% of all distributed BARR, and ~60% of OFFS , (this figure prior to BSC swap in February)

many of the addresses are not labelled, the 61% figure above was determined by some digging around and is not publicly accessible knowledge that the addresses necessarily belong to run paint. it is based on three labelled addresses.


coins burned
November 1 - 30 2015 : Fractalcoin (FRAC), Keycoin (KEY), Sapience (XAI), BARR
December 1 - 30 2015 : Anarchists Prime (ACP), Lyrabar (LYB), BARR
January 1 - 30 2016    : Bunnycoin (BUN), Unitus (UIS)
February 1-29 2016 : Bowscoin (BSC)

Barr seems openly an opportunity for those involved to divest their shitcoins while attempting to pump a new shitcoin.
Not necessarily a bad thing of course.



Not so secretly. Quite openly and deliberately.
As seems reasonably fair, it can be appropriate to give the dev team a house edge. A reason to invest time and money as it were. Some coins might issues a premine for this reason.



runpaint seems to make some economically naive claims.
no advantage in pre-holding the shitcoins chosen? no advantage in choosing the list? no advantage in setting the swap price after a period of private trading?

it certainly seems that the process so far has been heavily weighted,
that has so far resulted in ~61% ownership of all distributed coin supply?




coin voting
The voting system has shown no outside influence, resulting in total coin choice by runpaint.


here's the market fund address showing the full apparently voting history
https://www.mynxt.info/account/18396052473200615062

november 15. vote by runpaint. 1 vote for ACP, and 1 vote for LYB as Wild Card
december 6.   vote by runpaint. 50 votes for Bunnycoin, 50 votes for Unitus as Wild Card
december 13. vote by runpaint. 1950 votes for Bunnycoin 1950 votes for Unitus 50 votes for Cetuscoin 50 votes for Chaincoin
jan 14.           vote by runpaint. 10000 Votes for Bowscoin

future votes maybe interesting as anyone owning 61% of a coin certainly seems to have an advantage .


how much of total distribution of Barr does runpaint or Barr team own


cutting to the chase. runpaints personal address
https://www.mynxt.info/account/NXT-297T-ZFG8-M3A7-D4TFJ

420,324.5787 BARR
138,205.0000 OFFS

then from ANN OP (which seems updated since my last perusal?)

BARR – 230,356 coins burned out of 993,343 in circulation  = 23% (self-burned BARR, sent back to the burnfund)
OFFS - 15,000 coins burned out of 230,305 in circulation = 6.5% (permanently destroyed)

~42% of BARR   and  ~60% of OFFS

unitus.ninja has 105,000 barr
https://www.mynxt.info/account/NXT-Y5X2-T3ZU-LFWK-9GHE6

runpaint is the controller of unitus.ninja

http://wsdn.info/domain/unitus.ninja
http://wsdn.info/domain/barr.me
share the same ip as reported. 192.64.117.85

lyrabar.us shares the same ip
192.64.117.85

https://www.mynxt.info/account/NXT-X4XU-73KL-7ZAV-CCN2X
holding 81,198.2408 BARR   

lifting runpaints seeming ownership of barr to ~61% of total coins distributed.
so far ..

..

points to ponder,
100% of the coin swap list has been chosen by runpaint.
that person seemingly owns ~61% of BARR   and  ~60% of OFFS

that person,as well as admitting bagholding various coins also registered this address suggesting he bagheld lyrabar as well.

http://domainbigdata.com/email/runpaint@yahoo.com
List of domain names registred by runpaint@yahoo.com
lyrabar.us   2015-08-28

that same person has been in communication with Bowscoin dev for several months

the swap ratio's are set by Barr, earlier coin ratio attempted to mirror a real world swap value, but those values were heavily skewed through a pump process.
Bun was declared at a higher value, attempting to encourage pump behaviour.
The resulting higher price creates a more favourable ratio for swappers, another crafted advantage.

a stated attention is to lift the "difficulty" and aim for higher value coins, this will have the advantage of reducing the amount of Barr needed for each swap.
similar to a POS halving regime, the early swappers get higher rewards and the later swappers get lower. this will help maintain the serious imbalance in coin distribution.

will Barr's future voting list closely mirror runpaints prior activities on coin threads?

how much BTC have they invested in pumping these coins, not just to enhance their swap ratio's but also to enhance Barr's "real" value.

.
when they account for their burns, they also seem to use naive market value approximations.


the then current price on c-cex was 400 sats or so.
the buy book had a 0.0001 btc buy order at 400 sats, with the next order at 200,
and a total buy support of 0.31 btc down to 1 sat.

using a market valuation based on current price is easily manipulatable, and does not seem highly useful for a coin with no support.






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amusing quotes -


yep, 0 Barrs in circulation trading for 3.3 NXT

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on his thread, vs trolling DGCS dev


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when you want to buy shitcoins to burn you want to pump them first.
with the stated intention of making it more attractive for bagholders to burn,
whilst also enhancing swap ratios for everyone. especially bagholders

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other accusations of foul play


They started buying. Then set a coin swap ratio after some privately transacted purchasing had been going on - obviously if there stated intentions is to raise the price, there is a certain amount of coins bought below the set ratio.
Just another bit of "how to get moar coinz for free"? or  "none of our business, none of your business"?


buying under 600 sats gives them a higher swap ratio.
any pump action inadvertently gives them a chance to pick up cheap coins and swap for a better ratio.
possibly they are changing the process? assumedly to positively enhance Barr.




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but strangely owning 61% of an alt makes it worth as much as it's latest trade. market capitalizations based on latest trade info doesn't' seem particularly useful in the case of 99% of all crypto shitcoins where a minor dump can diminish their price considerably.

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well done runpaint, the single vote cast by you was a decisive blow.

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trash?
i haven't come here to talk trash. you're just seeing trash where' there's no trash to see.

there you go making outrageous claims again, now about my honesty? lol

you're the only one who's talking trash here, i havent made one single unjustified comment.
where as they are piling up from your end.


lol. it's not trustless. trustless is where no-one needs to trust you.
i assumed you would know that seeing how pedantic you are about the difference between trustable and trustless.

your system is not trustless because there's nothing to stop you from moving coins and dumping even if everyone can see them.
"oh look, there's a big dump from the burn fund, i can see it on the blockchain. fancy that."

your record keeping is not up to date, neither this thread is being kept current, nor the website,
so no-one can tell how trustworthy your records of your swaps have been (not that a simple record of coins moving in the chain is any indication of what actually happened in the swap).


it's great that you are apparently doing things honestly,
no idea why you think you should attack my honesty though? hidden premine. lol

honesty in this situation should also entail complete open ness about your own purchases of Barr.

you are the central overseer,
you are injecting personal funds into your own public project,
you are openly manipulating the market (through injecting funds - again, nothing wrong with that at all as long as you are open),
you should be completely transparent about your actions.


lol.
i own personal bumba, so does everyone else who owns bumba.
i guess we should all take them off the market because apparently no-one should be trading shitcoins.

that just shows how confused you are, do you even know what a shitcoin is? shall i list a few for you ?
Dash, Doge, Bumba, Barr. shitcoins are everywhere bae.

lol at your claim I'm trying to take peoples money? haha that's why Bumba is such an awesome shitcoin.

you are just rude.
and ignorant
but mostly rude, i assume most of your ignorance is just you being rude and not realising how ignorant you seem.

you need to talk to exchange. no-one else can help you if the coins are not on the blockchain

lol.
i came on to ask why you were burning a coin with an active dev (Bowscoin), you said you'd been chatting with said dev, i said great.

then i said, maybe i could swap Bumba for Barr because we have some spare and need to give them away,
this evolves into you taking personal affront at me telling you how to operate Barr? then making outrageously untrue (and hurtful *sniff*) comments about bumba.

how to escalate an innocent discussion woot

that isnt what makes Barr unique, it's what makes it's distribution protocol unique.
Barr is a Next Asset style of shitcoin. no more no less.


since i dont think artificially creating a pump coin  is a good idea ??
pardon me for not wanting to manipulate it "too" much



of course it can be arbitrary,
lets pretend i want to increase bumba's value to a similar market cap of Barr.

i pick the arbitrary value, then i put the appropriate amount of resources into Bumba to reach that arbitrary value

i'm not saying that anyone decided to make Barr valued at 1100 sats (or whatever), i'm saying anyone can create an arbitrary value for a shit coin.
i'ts basic economics
if supply/demand create price, then manipulating supply/demand will effect price.

you're working with an artificially inflated system by arbitrarily injecting funds into the process. this is no different to selling things in a market place for bumba.
but it creates an artificial supply/demand cycle.

it's amusing how happy you are about the easily manipulatable system you're working with/ created. and how you think the outcome actually proves some sort of real value.

you havent even bothered working with a truly trustable system. you could dump any amount of Barr you wanted at any time.
i've never really looked at Next or Assets so I dont know, but with Bumba for example, it would be simple to code in a timestamp to lock fund from being accessed until that timestamp is reached.

also, you might want to keep up with your "transparency".
the opening posts in this thread are not up to date, nor is http://barr.me



lol because Barr is so mysterious that no-one truly knows how it works.



Barr's idea is not unique, it's been floated around a few times.
Your self righteous indignation is also not unique.

lol Bumba was never meant to be anything more than a shitcoin so go figure. crypto is fun

you're just making up amusingly outrageous crap now. lol

the only things you're doing wrong is getting outraged that i dont care how awesome Barr is, and also that you're not accepting that i could swap Bumba for Barr in exactly the same manner your doing. as could any other person ..

for whatever reasons, we gave away a couple of million bumba, and have a couple of million left.
obviously giving them away is not necessarily healthy for a coin, or perhaps you'd be doing the same
how we give them away is completely arbitrary. doing a swap for another shitcoin is just another possibility. and if you cant see the humour in swapping them for Barr you should.


that said,
i was interested in getting some "gifts" for bowscoin and ended up catching a few dumps before the price pumped.
i'll watch with interest how the pump goes and where your buy walls end up
perhaps it would be in my best interest to invest further funds into pumping bowscoin further after all, it would be foolish of me not to enjoy such an easily manipulatable system to it's best affect.

recently looking at droidz history,
it seemed that yobit did not stake their coins, while c-cex does.

in the OP
BARR – 230,356 coins burned out of 780,856 in circulation  = 29% (self-burned BARR, sent back to the burnfund)

only 550,000 in circulation?


of course it's exactly the same thing, it's still true

There is nothing uniquely special about BARR other than it's particular origin (from you) and it's name (BARR).

i could make a shitcoin, SWAP, and offer exactly the same services and that statement would be true.
or i could put aside a portion of Bumba (or create more Bumba) and set up the same protocol

it does strike me as amusing that in the process of burning shitcoins, you are quite happy to strengthen two coins in the process. no worry about reducing the amount of shitcoins in existence, just make them stronger.





if i wanted to regularly invest several thousand dollars of my own money i could inflate the price of BUMBA to a point where we could swallow BARR. however at this point i dont really see any use as you will continue to pump out BARR for the forseeable future.

i could however continue to artificially inflate the value of BUMBA, whilst creating a protocol where through a similar release/halving system we could continue to burn BARR for the next 100 years.
(if necessary we could artificially create another million or so BUMBA for this purpose as well)

any artificial protocol is easy to copy. it's just a matter of doing it.

first of all create an artificial pump for BUMBA through injecting funds,
swap coins,
repeat regularly.

(it does make me consider the NEXUS swap model would be more useful here, as dumping BARR on the market place would help the process by continuing to de-value BARR (rather than strengthening BARR) and also convert them back into more buy support for BUMBA.)

that could result in a competition of who could artificially inflate their coin value the most, reminding me of the american political system where there is a corrupt system of waste taking place to see who can waste the most human resources.
haha although the competition would end with the strengthening of both BARR and BUMBA.

although tbh, strengthening is not necessarily true.
reducing coin supply, while increasing price .. inversely proportional and all that.
does increase value for some coin holders though

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i'm not that averse to Barr swapping coins, nor Digital Credits swapping coins, nor Nexus swapping coins, nor any other coin swapping system that may happen.
i'm not that averse to you continue to investing your own cash to inflate values to a point where it becomes useful to swap.

i agree that swallowing coin systems may create a stronger coin system,
i am quite amused that you have a system, that through the artificial injection of personal funds you can strengthen both shitcoins at the same time

i would like to point out that creating manipulated economic models does not make Barr an automatic success.
anyone can create an arbitrary value for any shitcoin by putting money in, that's how a PnD works,

the real value of Barr will be revealed in the future.
i wish you luck with your coin strengthening

and if anyone wants to swap Barr for Bumba, send me a pm and we'll work something out

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edit if there is any consideration of ever swapping bumba, i will do anything useful towards it.
ie not dumping the remains of the premine as they enjoy the same artificially valueless state of the Barr burnfund