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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI on: May 05, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
I won’t say it’s impossible, but I would be really genuinely surprised. 32MB / hash of total bandwidth (read + write) is needed, and 2MB or so of stashes per hashcore.

You have 1280 URAM blocks of 288kb by 72 bit interface dual ported in the biggest configuration .That’s an incredible amount of internal bandwidth but you can only store 23 or so simultaneous Cryptonight7 2MB blocks in that. The absolute biggest part (which isn’t on the 1525 board) has 360Mbit URAM, 96Mbit BRAM, and 48Mbit Distributed RAM, holding a theoretical 63 MB of pipelines, assuming you didn’t need a single bit of that for the rest of your logic (you do).

The external memory at say 4x64 DIMMs @2666 is only 85GB/s, or 2.6 KH worth of bandwidth with a perfect access pattern.

Even if you could imaginarily use all 2000+ balls on the FPGA for 2666 MT/s DDR style  speeds you’d still only clear 20KH against external memory and that isn’t even real bandwidth.

 Even if you took the biggest part with 128x32 Gbps transceivers to SERDES memory you’d only have 16kH limit from bandwidth.

Unless you break the algorithm itself, there’s no where to find the bandwidth + storage space for 64khs on a single FPGA.

You're missing a really big part of the ultraram. One of the most attractive things that ultraram has to offer. True dual port single clock read/write. Also, when you chain ultrarams together it increases the bus width proportionally to the amount it increases the latency. I never completed monero but my estimates were in the 4-8Kh/s per board range at 100W.

The one I'm having a hard time believing is keccak. The VCU1525 only has 160A vccint. I was hitting 2.5Gh/s at 140-150A vccint with 12 cores operating at 225mhz. This wasn't optimized, like at all, but I'm having a hard time finding 7x worth of hashrate with optimization. Then again, I'm only using vivado and didn't spend a great deal of time on optimization.



442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI on: May 05, 2018, 11:18:58 PM
at least an order of magnitude.

As someone who has sat down with a regional vice president of sales for Xilinx. Don't hold your breath.

You'd be surprised at what amazon, tencent, etc paid for their XCVU9P's. Best case you're looking at a reduction of about 65% if order volume is greater than $10M lump sum.

443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: May 03, 2018, 11:39:19 PM
Soon, I believe Monaco will release the final version as soon as they can.

Damn is it October of 2017 already? Oh, wait.

444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret" on: May 02, 2018, 05:03:57 PM
When I get these on 240 VAC the power supplies can supply 1200 watts each so I will switch to "High Efficiency Mode" which will pull power from only one supply and have the other in redundant very low power mode.

Wouldn't it be better to keep it on balanced and allow your PSUs to be more efficient?



445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret" on: April 18, 2018, 06:42:51 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was about to pull the trigger before all the coins fell off a cliff in value, hah...

I am pricing out a full set of UPS units, though, through some distributors... since I'll need 100+ of them. Gonna just have to suck it up I suppose!

Check ebay for UPS that would match your input power. You might be able to get a UPS large enough to place it before your distribution panel. I've seen them floating around in the 50kW->100kW range. You also don't really need a UPS, just the auto voltage regulator that most UPS have built in. With the AVR it should keep voltage constant until there is no more power and go to 0 completely preventing over voltage and under voltage situations.


446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret" on: April 18, 2018, 06:41:13 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?


Some servers have a bios setting for throttling in the event of a power failure. It's possible it got stuck in that state? Have you tried a full proper power shut down and restart?

I have not done a complete "hard" power off -- I will give that a shot.

Okay tried on two systems. One just a "shut down" then power back on. One with a "shut down" and unplug / replug the system. No effect on either system. Both still doing only 1600 H/S

Apparently this IS, in fact, a thing :

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1447342-dell-r820-slow-after-power-outages

So... that being said I'll have to work on them tomorrow when I have some time.

One of the responses in that thread... Seems like it'd be the fastest solution in your case.

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I did discover that if I shut the server all the way down, pull the plugs, wait 10-15 seconds, then plug it back in. After rebooting, it seems to be acting normal again. So what is it about pulling the power OR changing the performance profile that would fix whatever issue is happening?

447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret" on: April 18, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?


Some servers have a bios setting for throttling in the event of a power failure. It's possible it got stuck in that state? Have you tried a full proper power shut down and restart?

448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Wake up people and dont buy asics on: April 09, 2018, 01:34:40 PM
What I enjoy is developers who are completely oblivious to the fact they have a problem. There was a monero thread on github back in december. It was like talking to a wall.

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These are our assumptions and they are  our scripture. We will stand by our assumptions until we get smacked in the face by asic sales.



449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU mining will die in 2018! on: April 09, 2018, 01:25:20 PM
I see day by day, ASICS of many coins are launching, individually or multiple. Chinese companies are trying to kill the GPU mining market once again cause they are greedy, just like they did to Bitcoin and Litecoin. GPU Mining died in 2013 and was resurrected in 2015 with the Cryptocoins Generation 2.0, although many of you miners just started mining on 2016 due to huge pumps on those 2.0 cryptocoins.

As Cryptocoins got more popular than in 2011 - 2013. The new generation of Cryptocoins 2015 and afterwards are endangered by ASICS once again, and 2018 looks to be the year of per the title "GPU mining will die in 2018!".

Keep in mind that there are possible ASICS for ethash already for Q1, and even if ETH goes POS, ETC and other ethash coins will be only ASICS and if that happens only Equihash coins will be minable for a time and I have a word that there is already an ASIC in development for Equihash already and will start delivering in Q4 2018. As GPU mining keep gets scarce, other popular coins will have pumps and so ASICS will be born for them.

I want to know your thoughts about it and I wonder the limits of --> "where, there is money to be made, there is greedy"

Keep in mind that this price crashing we are seeing is due also to the fear of ASICS for most GPU mining coins.


All of this not even mentioning the fact that there is still other hardware better than GPUs. I'm currently mining algos at 10x-60x h/w and 1x-10x h/$ increases over gpus. I also know with 100% certainty I'm not the only one doing it.
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner on: April 09, 2018, 01:18:40 PM
News from Baikal, i recive this tweet.....
Is possibile?
They are in Panic!!!
https://twitter.com/baikalminer/status/983278127504769026?s=09

That's the funniest twitter i've ever read from an asic manufacturer. Thanks for sharing.
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: April 09, 2018, 11:48:54 AM
If you look at my stats, post count is a LOT higher than activity.

Sorry, I don't have that much to say  Grin

452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: April 08, 2018, 11:13:15 PM

Activity isn't a measure of post COUNT - it is a measure of how many weeks in a row you've made at least one post.


Ya, and my account is 7 years old... Everytime i post my activity goes up too.. Another 100 posts and I'm legendary...


I was misremembering details, but it's not "post count" that determines activity as such, it's "consistent posting" that does.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2658590.0




Apparently when your account is this old every post counts toward activity... As, everytime i post my postcount and activity go up. The numbers are identical. It should activate in 770-1000 range. Quite a few posts to go.

Anyway, there are a lot of assumptions being made here that aren't true which is why you can't fathom how I can do $20/day at $1/day cost. It's very profitable to mine as long as you're not doing the same thing as everyone else.

453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU venting idea (YES OR NO? ) on: April 07, 2018, 04:23:35 PM

Thanks for the response...

Why would you want to go through all the trouble of building this?

GPU rigs are fine with open air. I mine in a tropical country where ambient temp is higher than average. I have a small 39-GPU rig farm and run them at around 65 degrees using simple fucking fans. None of my GPUs have died. Been mining for a year now. ROI is real.
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For once I am in a closed garage, so using fans will no exhaust the heat, at all.

Using fans in a closed spaced is mimicking an oven, that is why i need to vent to the outside.

If you'd take the time to run the numbers you'd probably see that a 500-1000cfm grow room fan with some 4 or 6" duct work would do you just fine.

great idea, just a concern, what if the grow fan fails, any tips to avoid damage to the cards





Temperature sensor connected to a rpi with a relay switch connected to another in-line fan? There are a lot of possible solutions. But you're trying to find a solution for unknown variables. You need to run the thermal transfer calculations.



454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: April 07, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
Yes, mining is still worth it. You just need to be better than the average joe.

How can you be better than the average joe when it's all about hardwares and stuffs? Do you mean that one should have resources which they can able to buy those things that they need? I'm at 50/50 point when it comes to mining, especially that there is a scarcity in GPU's. Wish that I can turn back the clock and never invest into ICO's or trading new coins. I was able to purchase 3x 1080 Ti's when it was cheaper @ $1k/unit and put half of my investment to those things that I mentioned. If you have faith in what you do and have a better decision capacity than I am, mining will still be profitable.

If I said, everyone would be doing it. I'm at $20+/day still at less than $1/day electrical cost even with bitcoin at $6750 and crashing markets. I'm trying to get my post count up to legendary and I really hate to post these things. But it's agonizing watching people make stupid decisions.

Activity isn't a measure of post COUNT - it is a measure of how many weeks in a row you've made at least one post.
I find the claim of $20+ a day per $1 in electric usage hard to believe, even if you're in one of the 2 counties "next door" to me where electric is available for 3c/KWH or a hair less even for for small miners.
$10 to $1 ratio, sure with a well optimized rig, but I don't see any way RIGHT NOW to get to $20 to $1.

A month ago, $20 to $1 would have been believable.




Ya, and my account is 7 years old... Everytime i post my activity goes up too.. Another 100 posts and I'm legendary...




455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BITMAIN was mining ETH in their farms ! BITMAIN Is killing GPU miners on: April 07, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
first batch come in july. $900 for 180MH/s. and now of course they are mining as much as they can then pump ETH price right before delivery

How do you know they are mining it??

How do I know you're not Santa Claus and don't live at the North Pole?

There is no proof, and they would have no desire for knowledge of their "testing" to be publicly available.

But when you have a situation like what happened with Cryptonight/Monero, when despite GPUs being sold out across the board and Coin price dropping yet the network continues to grow exponentially in hashrate, something else in driving that increase. Ergo, probably ASICs.

The real question isn't how do you know they are, it's why wouldn't they be mining it? Wouldn't you? Following money, motives, and incentives usually paints a clearer picture than the limited "factual" evidence you have available.

I think the real question is... If someone invents a machine that prints money... Why would they ever sell it?

There is only one reason... If they can make more money by selling the money printing machine than the amount of money that the machine can print.



456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I shut it down tonight boys. on: April 06, 2018, 03:57:13 AM
My little hobby rig cannot find a coin to mine thats profitable. Even with $0.06kWh electricity Im losing money from this point on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
Lol, I clicked the youtube link hoping that it might be a documentation of your rig or your calculations, thinking you might gone wrong.
Anyways, this video might help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ  Wink

Shhhhh DONT TELL THEM THE SECRET  Grin
The secret is, buy an ASIC.

Bitmain E3 isn't shipping 'till Mid-July - and is about the SAME specs (180 Mhash at 800 watts) as a well-tuned 6-card AMD RX 480/580 rig, and INFERIOR in performance to a well-tuned Nvidia GTX 1070 6-card rig (186+ Mhash at 700-750 watts).

Only thing it has going for it is the LOW PRICE.

Apparently the rumours about a "F3" unit were incorrect, as was that one published video - or the "F3" isn't an ETH mining unit.


What's up with the limit of one per person?

It's their latest tactic of trying not to look like complete assholes. So, they privately mine, extract large amounts of value from a coin, sell a bunch of miners, then sell off their coins and crash the price. It keeps the price high during their sales and their units ROI looking great.



I know a lot of people speculate about that and I do believe it to be true.  I mean, why wouldn't they do it?  I think I've come full circle on my opinion of Bitmain at this point ... Really doesn't matter to them if they sell this unit at $800 or $400, because they've already accumulated enough income off of mining with them privately to sell at whatever price they can get.  Jihan is a very smart man and I'm sure they carefully calculate the max price they can sell their used hardware at.  Getting money out of the used hardware is just the icing on the cake for them, if they have been mining with them for months.  You'd be doing it that way too, if it was your business that spent millions in R&D on something like that.  

Jihan doesn't even care about crypto, from what I've heard.  All that I've been hearing as of late is that he is using this as a catalyst into some really scary AI shit.  


I would just build my own hardware and mine in secret. I wouldn't go and mine a bunch of coins, hold them, and artificially increase the price by hodl before launching a sale with artificially inflated ROI then destroy the price of a coin (and ROI with it) after collecting money from the miner sales. They pump and dump any time they launch miner sales. What they're doing would be considered deceptive trade practices, market manipulation, and would probably be illegal in more than a few locations.


457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: April 06, 2018, 03:46:58 AM
Yes, mining is still worth it. You just need to be better than the average joe.

How can you be better than the average joe when it's all about hardwares and stuffs? Do you mean that one should have resources which they can able to buy those things that they need? I'm at 50/50 point when it comes to mining, especially that there is a scarcity in GPU's. Wish that I can turn back the clock and never invest into ICO's or trading new coins. I was able to purchase 3x 1080 Ti's when it was cheaper @ $1k/unit and put half of my investment to those things that I mentioned. If you have faith in what you do and have a better decision capacity than I am, mining will still be profitable.

If I said, everyone would be doing it. I'm at $20+/day still at less than $1/day electrical cost even with bitcoin at $6750 and crashing markets. I'm trying to get my post count up to legendary and I really hate to post these things. But it's agonizing watching people make stupid decisions.

The problem is $20+/day at $1 electrical cost at today's current situation is a very debatable claim. If you'd like, i'm offering you the chance to PM the details of what you are mining and i can guarantee to vouch for you if it checks out. I will stake my account and swear that I will never tell anyone else about it.

Interested?

How is it in my interest to do those things? I don't care if anyone believes it. Go buy some more gpus and asics  Cheesy
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: April 06, 2018, 02:19:35 AM
Yes, mining is still worth it. You just need to be better than the average joe.

How can you be better than the average joe when it's all about hardwares and stuffs? Do you mean that one should have resources which they can able to buy those things that they need? I'm at 50/50 point when it comes to mining, especially that there is a scarcity in GPU's. Wish that I can turn back the clock and never invest into ICO's or trading new coins. I was able to purchase 3x 1080 Ti's when it was cheaper @ $1k/unit and put half of my investment to those things that I mentioned. If you have faith in what you do and have a better decision capacity than I am, mining will still be profitable.

If I said, everyone would be doing it. I'm at $20+/day still at less than $1/day electrical cost even with bitcoin at $6750 and crashing markets. I'm trying to get my post count up to legendary and I really hate to post these things. But it's agonizing watching people make stupid decisions.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 05, 2018, 11:42:59 PM
(Bitmain: professional evil....professionally done...we do evil well!) (tm: Bitmain)

Bitmain looks like an American company where only money really matters, hard to say it's Chinese. I wonder where is the socialism and equality. That jihan guy maybe spent most of his life with evil american manufactures. Learnt from them.

You've obviously never been to china.

460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU venting idea (YES OR NO? ) on: April 04, 2018, 11:08:17 AM

Thanks for the response...

Why would you want to go through all the trouble of building this?

GPU rigs are fine with open air. I mine in a tropical country where ambient temp is higher than average. I have a small 39-GPU rig farm and run them at around 65 degrees using simple fucking fans. None of my GPUs have died. Been mining for a year now. ROI is real.
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For once I am in a closed garage, so using fans will no exhaust the heat, at all.

Using fans in a closed spaced is mimicking an oven, that is why i need to vent to the outside.

If you'd take the time to run the numbers you'd probably see that a 500-1000cfm grow room fan with some 4 or 6" duct work would do you just fine.



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