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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 27, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
Besides the giveaway I decided to buy some too:

407b1385e8a3c332b559a50fad0956c8f853a939e86f4662beed43d5ada8efa6


Question: How do you sell them?? LMAO  Tongue

Technically, it is possible to sell MasterCoins right now, since it is possible to send them. It would be like selling litecoins for bitcoins, and you'd have to decide who sends first.

However, once the coins have been transferred a couple times, it gets harder and harder to keep track of them. Software to track MasterCoin transfers is the next major milestone. After that will come the distributed exchange, and you'll be able to sell MasterCoins without having to worry about trust or reputation.

As I was gearing up to invest in this project
my blockchain wallet all of a sudden started giving me
problems! been using it for months and it never had
an issue until 2 days ago.

the bitcoins to invest in mastercoin are still stuck In my blockchain
wallet!

hopefully I can have the issue resolved before Sept 1st

I want in!


Don't worry, you'll still be able to buy MasterCoins after September 1st, from people like our friend above. However, they could be more expensive!
682  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Giveaway Thread for "MasterCoins" - the new protocol layer built on bitcoin on: August 26, 2013, 10:34:54 PM
Thanks!

I saw some weird 0.00006 BTC tx and figured out they were MSC, but I hoped the Greesemonkey script would somehow parse them ... not saying that this was announced anywhere, just kind of hoped it would "just work" Smiley

You can actually prove that the transaction is what I claim using MasterCoin-Advisor python script (or executable). Just enter the currency type, amount, and your bitcoin address, and it should spit out the outputs you see in the transaction.
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
Can you add reddit.com/r/mastercoin to the OP?
It's an important link for the redditors among us.

(P.S. we really need a website ... let's start discussing an appropriate bounty?)

Done.

Anybody have opinions on what a basic website should cost these days?

I'd like to do "closed bounties" where we announce the bounty, take applications, then choose somebody to implement it. Open bounties (where everybody is doing the same work and the first one done wins) won't attract the best talent.
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
BTW:

1.
Can we start a Weekly MasterCoin update threads?
SunnyKing does this with PPCoin and PrimeCoin, and I think it's terrific. It's one concentrated thread where only you can post, that provides clear updates about "the state of the coin".


Right now, post #2 in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.0) is kept updated with the current state of everything. I hope to continue updating it regularly.

2.
Is there a better place to post feature requests? (Well we can post them here / the google group, but we should really have some organized issue tracker. How about a github repo?)

...

Theoretically, MasterCoin parsing could be implemented entirely using greasemonkey. However, this would be extremely non-scalable. I've been trying to focus development efforts on scalable python/C++ code, but there is certainly room to do some Greasemonkey bounties if you guys would like to see that script become more capable.

What about my suggestion to open some centralized place to coordinate feature requests?
It can be Trello, Github, or whatever ... but it should be something.
Is this the official mastercoin github organization?
Could I be added as admin?
Can we open a repository on it (let's call it "Project" or something), and just use it to collect issues and feature requests?

Or, alternatively ... whatever other suggestion you'd prefer (as project lead, the system should be whatever system you're comfortable with the most)

This is what I'm currently using:
https://github.com/dacoinminster/MasterCoin-Adviser

I figured out how to add you as a "collaborator", but I don't know how to add you as admin . . .

I haven't looked into how to create a top-level github address for my project, but the one you found is not mine (probably it belongs to the alt coin).

I don't have feature-request tracking other than what you've started, and I'm happy to use those tools as long as they work for us.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 10:21:52 PM
Thanks for the Mastercoins I will have to try harder Smiley

I received the Mastercoins via my QT wallet if I send my remaining balance to the exodus address how would I differentiate them from the bitcoins I received from other sources.

As an implementation question I can differentiate the two Mastercoin transactions above.
However how would it work if I transferred the balance in my wallet to exodus.
(Would they be recalculated as part of a mastercoin or are they identified as mastercoins already)

When reading the paper I noted this part that said

"all transfers of value are still stored in the normal bitcoin block chain, but higher layers of the protocol assign additional meaning to some transactions."

If that higher layer of protocol design is assigned to the current test coin and mastercoin I possess how do I determine it's existence

Sorry if this question is a bit confusing still on the learning curve.
Off to catch up on 28 pages Smiley

You can do anything you want with those bitcoins, including buying more MasterCoins.

Your MasterCoins will stay at that address until you publish a message from that address transferring them. The message has to be in a very specific format, but it doesn't matter which bitcoins you use to send the message as long as the message comes from that address.
686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 09:39:29 PM

You can also send the ones you already bought to a new address, using the same code I am using to do the giveaway thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.msg2919863#msg2919863

That post links to the python source code as well as a compiled executable Smiley

Yeah; I looked at it and it's pretty straightforward. I just wanted to try to make a 'real' wallet-client; one that can do the actual sending as well; and give you a balance etc.

Watch out: if you do that, you may find yourself the recipient of some money from our project funds Wink

Unrelated note: Anybody watching the Exodus Address probably saw a whole bunch of tiny transactions a few minutes ago; those were MasterCoin (and Test MasterCoin) sends as part of the giveaway thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272577.msg3014323#msg3014323
687  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Giveaway Thread for "MasterCoins" - the new protocol layer built on bitcoin on: August 26, 2013, 09:21:30 PM
Done by removing address from sig (1donutMH4L7kdRqh4xvSvesfd3KFu3UNm)

Don't use twitter or facebook (or g+ for that matter).

OK - Your post will be 72 hours old on Friday, but I may wait until Monday to send the next batch.

Thanks!
0.5 Test MasterCoin: http://blockchain.info/tx/a2421fa6c90e253bcf6d2a3e7cb7740fbabb2bee51b5d07031ad1935b4990a19
0.5 MasterCoin: http://blockchain.info/tx/d10c50c7c12fe6cae4154610f38f1045ec08d10402c1b506bd9ec5fdf5f2f294
(Ignore this one, which I messed up by sending from the wrong address: http://blockchain.info/tx/1bce28bd47ae7622b16acf7736f18d4d83fd48eb7a61f796c08aeae1a8e3709c)

Your project sounds very interesting!! There's a lot of crap around at the moment, but MasterCoins sound like a very inovative idea.

1HMGA2Jj2q4xV8uefkHEWa9sewmDcYxzj9

I'll do some more reading and then see what I can come up with.

You don't seem to have posted anything yet Smiley

Very cool idea! I have been talking about and promoting Mastercoin over in the #digitalcoin IRC freenode chat. (has 30+ active users) I have screenshots of us talking about it. Also updated my SIG.

BTC Address : 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm

Could you maybe post those screenshots so I don't short-change you?

I also like to have some Mastercoins, looks promising to me Smiley
Check out my signature, and I posted here as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225659.msg2996600#msg2996600 (and to my surprise it got quickly perceived and added to the main list by the thread author after a few minutes)
13RgJNX9L8CfbFAuBdaoVWGDbhprFEYQeS

Great job!

1.5 Test MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/c0ec94d6154edfa1dc250237693b74cf282695bb08042dfa6f35d5c7dfae5890
1.5 MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/f993be9813e409ee1ce42b14c444af65b789350abe412fd2f8a289082b7b4870

Well I still am learning how the Mastercoin system works but I'll contribute to passing around the idea.

I borrowed bybitcoins post and added a few more things since it made a nice template and posted it in a topic in the forums and on the asicminer forums.
1EByjy9e4FeGZuTV4Rx5hbf4PnFt7jGh8M
Best of Luck with your proof of concept and design

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279860.msg2996791#msg2996791
https://asicminer.info/forum/index.php?page=Thread&postID=258#post258

Nobody noticed the first one, and it looks like the second one got deleted. Oh well; you tried.

1.0 Test MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/75a33ab549f1980b2a10bd8b5641e01094dcfeaf5a116a82bdd48a4bb3c5c02d
1.0 MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/cdfd4bbf985eefd5139cc23ce367b6a7a7fef0b2d3f1f72baf86ef3b37b61398

18jx6UYhAWkVtN5Wzo24Mn5C4rugB1fZ6r

creator of mastercoin subreddit
proof: i sent a pm to /u/dacoinminster

OK, I'm a dummy. I just found my reddit inbox with your message AND your invitation to become a moderator. I've subscribed to the RSS feed so hopefully I'll see PMs to my reddit account in the future!

2.0 Test MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/4452003746886e1517da78419f39a8403b5896567ceb94ba0851dc1411fa637e
2.0 MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/b91ebba6649df4ea6bc98d412238b8cecbfb75ce6f680ac8d37d15f1314f3c74

I've updated my original reply to this topic (on page 2) with another post I've made promoting it on Bitcoinforum.com

https://www.bitcoinforum.com/projects/mastercoin-a-new-protocol-layer-on-top-of-bitcoin/

If I find additional ways to promote Mastercoin should I just update my original reply, or add them as new replies (like this one)?

That forum does not seem to be widely used, my friend Smiley

I originally said to update the original post and send me a PM, but I think just posting again will probably be simpler. Either way works for me.

Using your 13qJCzNQUx7dFcixjq9Rab7wPgUCtYS48v address again:

0.5 Test MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/7d4eea4e30000701c730a06ba1212299a8b7be166202861f16eecb18086cb5bb
0.5 MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/012e60064d48dcf1757e69c0fcd5ef1c0fcaffe0b0ce0f953a25f13ea4bfeb25

I have just finished preparing my MasterCoin presentation for tomorrow's meetup of Israeli Bitcoin Meetup - notes welcome (please on the Google Groups thread).

I believe we will videotape the the meetup, but I will deliver it in Hebrew so the video will be of limited use.
Still the presentation is in English, you may reuse it if you wish.

Slides are also available on slideshare for any of you who are interested.

Ron, I think you have earned considerable additional credit for receiving MasterCoins on the giveaway thread :
1HfXDX3ALapNebQC8stTdd5zK7kiCgvX9n

ripper234 has been by far the biggest promoter of this project in numerous ways. He even made a whole presentation which he delivered at the Israeli bitcoin meetup, as linked above!

Consequently:

20.0 Test MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/c7447cf2a33617aed6ce7ff6778a6cc6107a66180f70c53639aaa5ee7db9a26a
20.0 MasterCoins: http://blockchain.info/tx/f17d988c49732a1bb9f3022a4bb9f08daa256f7ad0a56ff1d517f49f278a09e3

If anybody is trying to figure out what these funny-looking transactions mean, check out this detailed breakdown: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.msg2940318#msg2940318

Looks like I'll have a bunch more to giveaway later this week, with all the people who posted the last couple days.

Thanks everybody!
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 07:24:50 PM
In the interest of total transparency, I just sent 4.5 BTC to the Exodus Address on behalf of a friend. He gave me cash to buy him some bitcoins a few weeks ago, which I have been holding for him, and when I told him about my project, he wanted to invest his bitcoins.

They don't belong to me, but I technically have control over them since I am holding them on my friend's behalf. Probably nobody cares, but I figured I should mention it.

My dad also said he was going to write me a check, so I'll do the same thing for him if he does.

Obviously, I warned both of them to only invest what they could afford to lose Smiley

As mentioned in the quote above, I'm also investing on behalf of my dad. This MasterCoin purchase for 4.418 BTC was made by me today on behalf of my dad: http://blockchain.info/tx/20e5b8b7b408a433fff1f39fbd4ae4b10de1cdf8b6dd9f31453e0fa14cac3f78

Again, probably nobody cares, but I just want to be transparent!

Also, thanks to whomever just sent in 50BTC! Are we perhaps picking up some steam in this last week of the fundraiser?
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
I figured people wouldn't care about blowing up half a cent per transaction, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not opposed to TestNet MasterCoins, although I am trying hard to restrain the scope of this project - maybe this would be another good thing to create a bounty for if lots of people want it.

Currently I'm messing around (with ruby) to see if I can get a simple wallet software going on top of bitcoin-ruby. I'm pretty sure I will fudge up a few transactions while developing so I just figured I would make the risk as small as possible. My master coins currently reside on a Electrum address which I rather not import in development software for the obvious reasons. Although I can solve this by 'buying' some more on a development specific address so I guess I will opt in for that option.

You can also send the ones you already bought to a new address, using the same code I am using to do the giveaway thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.msg2919863#msg2919863

That post links to the python source code as well as a compiled executable Smiley
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 05:40:32 PM
Somebody just sent 44.72135955 BTC to the Exodus Address!

That puts us over 1000BTC of investment from outside investors. Sweet . . .

I think maybe they were trying to purchase an even number of MasterCoins (script says: 4810.07060139 MasterCoins purchased).

If they actually managed to purchase an even number of MasterCoins, that would be pretty impressive, given that the bonus is calculated at 1-second granularity Smiley
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
The problem is that developing clients is much easier on testnet without risking your real life bitcoins. As I understand it I need to send real bitcoins around in order to create MasterCoin transactions; plus I need to use real public/private keypairs in my codebases. I rather use testnet for these purposes as exposure of keys or wrong transactions are not hurtful.

tl;dr I rather send testnet bitcoins to oblivion then normal bitcoins. 

Hmmm. I'm not sure how your private keys would be exposed. How could that happen? Are you thinking of developing web services which you are worried might get hacked?

I figured people wouldn't care about blowing up half a cent per transaction, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not opposed to TestNet MasterCoins, although I am trying hard to restrain the scope of this project - maybe this would be another good thing to create a bounty for if lots of people want it.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 05:09:28 PM
Ron, I think you have earned considerable additional credit for receiving MasterCoins on the giveaway thread Smiley

The slides I looked at really threw me for a loop when some of the pictures had English words right-to-left instead of left-to-right - it took me a minute to figure out, but I assume this made sense to people who are used to reading Hebrew.

Thanks!

The slides are supposed to make sense in English as well ... which slides looked weird to you?
If you saw it on slideshare, I think I know what you mean - the translation from powerpoint to slideshare wasn't that smooth - please check the original powerpoint version (here is the link again).

Yeah, that looks fine. I was viewing the powerpoint presentation on an Android phone when I first saw it, and some of the images had text that read right-to-left, but I don't see that on my PC. It might have been a weird artifact of whatever Android app was interpreting the presentation.
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
I got this email this morning:

Quote
Dear Mr. Willett,

I know you are busy so I will keep my question short. I am very
interested in Master Coin from the basics I have read about (I have
today downloaded the protocol specification to read through it in
detail), and plan on contributing to your cause before 1 September 2013.

I would like to attend a conference in where you and your colleagues are
likely to be speaking about MasterCoin in the future. Due to limits of
my funding and budget (and I live overseas from the U.S.), I have to
choose my conferences wisely. I was for a moment thinking of attending
the crypto currency conference coming up in early October 2013 in
Atlanta, but I'm not so sure I would learn much about MasterCoin. Do you
have any suggestions on what conferences I might be able to attend in
the near future (remainder of this year or next)?

Thank you!

I haven't made plans to attend more conferences yet, but I think a good use of project funds might be to pay travel expenses to a couple conferences. I think most of you would agree? I'd be able to raise the profile of MasterCoin in the bitcoin community, which should positively impact the price of MasterCoins.

However, my wife doesn't much appreciate it when I run off and leave her with the children, so I'd probably only go to ones where I could bring my family with me, which would raise the cost and lower the number of conferences I could attend. We'll see if the oversight board even wants to pay for all that out of project funds. If they don't, or if there is more than a couple conferences a year which need MasterCoin representation, we'd probably need to designate someone else to go.

I know my family is a drag on this project - sorry guys :-/
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 04:44:57 PM
Wagner2014,

Just the act of sending coins to the address is all that is needed to purchase mastercoins. Coins received at that address and at what date and time before aug 1st is how your mastercoin total is calculated. The greasemonkey script is just to calculate the amount of mastercoins purchased(seems to be a little bug in it now).

The unconfirmed transaction from the address ending with "enarfs" where there was another confirmed transaction earlier from the same address seemed to cause the greasemonkey script a little hiccup.

I'm not seeing a hiccup - can someone post a screenshot?
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
Have you guys noticed that we've been getting a lot more investors lately? I'm pretty sure that is because of this coindesk article: http://www.coindesk.com/mastercoin-to-create-new-altcoins-in-bitcoins-block-chain/

The article does a really great job of presenting what the project is all about, and we seem to be getting a lot of new investors from it.
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 04:34:57 PM


I posted a new bounty suggestion / feature request - let's have the greasemonkey script.

Is there a better place to post feature requests? (Well we can post them here / the google group, but we should really have some organized issue tracker. How about a github repo?)


For convenience reading, here is the feature request:
Quote
It would be nice if the MasterCoin Greasemonkey script would parse mastercoins transactions on top of blockchain.info. E.g. these are transfers of 2 MSC and Test MSC to my address:

http://blockchain.info/tx/dc5c346e1b7ee7de135a34eab255afc48e2d9092553f32c1a80030e0438b61ec
http://blockchain.info/tx/bfadadcbf9e67eda7359d628645473ce7753d4048964d94340e4acfbbf15de5c


Is there a way to get the GreaseMonkey script to work on the individual tx pages and not only on the Exodus addy page? For example, if I visit my TX log:

http://blockchain.info/tx/407e0a6ae2986693c8e5d35b2e47f973af35239fc53e8561137ee5f320195682

I don't see Mastercoins purchased, but if I visit the overall Exodus address page I do....

Just a quibble I guess, not that I don't love seeing everyone else's transactions!


Theoretically, MasterCoin parsing could be implemented entirely using greasemonkey. However, this would be extremely non-scalable. I've been trying to focus development efforts on scalable python/C++ code, but there is certainly room to do some Greasemonkey bounties if you guys would like to see that script become more capable.
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
I have just finished preparing my MasterCoin presentation for tomorrow's meetup of Israeli Bitcoin Meetup - notes welcome (please on the Google Groups thread).

I believe we will videotape the the meetup, but I will deliver it in Hebrew so the video will be of limited use.
Still the presentation is in English, you may reuse it if you wish.

Slides are also available on slideshare for any of you who are interested.

Ron, I think you have earned considerable additional credit for receiving MasterCoins on the giveaway thread Smiley

The slides I looked at really threw me for a loop when some of the pictures had English words right-to-left instead of left-to-right - it took me a minute to figure out, but I assume this made sense to people who are used to reading Hebrew.

698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: August 26, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Would it make sense to get an exodus address for (bitcoin) testnet?

Good point- why not?

"Test MasterCoins" were created for this purpose - everybody gets the same number of MasterCoins and Test MasterCoins, and both run on top of the main bitcoin block chain. This simplifies development somewhat.
699  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Giveaway Thread for "MasterCoins" - the new protocol layer built on bitcoin on: August 26, 2013, 03:18:34 PM
Quote
If you upvote other peoples' threads about this project on reddit or elsewhere, mention that and I'll take it under consideration Smiley

Emailed hueypriest. Enjoy your shadowban. http://reddit.com/rules


Hmmm. Good point. I've removed that line from the OP, and will NOT take reddit upvotes into consideration for the purposes of this giveaway.

Thanks for pointing that out to me. I can tell you are a kind person.
700  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Giveaway Thread for "MasterCoins" - the new protocol layer built on bitcoin on: August 23, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
Next batch of sends will be Monday.

Keep in mind that this giveaway ends 8/31, and afterwards I will be distributing the remainder of the funds among those who posted here. Right now that's looking like a pretty large chunk of money for each of you, as the total giveaway is worth over $500, and I've given out maybe 2% of that.
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