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101  Economy / Speculation / UK policy makers discuss bitcoin regulation on: September 05, 2013, 12:48:22 AM
I wonder if this caused the price to drop some.
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The potential regulation of UK bitcoin companies was discussed at a meeting this morning at the government’s headquarters, 10 Downing Street.

Hosted by the Number 10 Policy Unit, the Financial Innovators Summit was attended by a number of financial technology companies, UK regulators and government members.

Tom Robinson, co-founder of yet-to-launch UK virtual currency exchange BitPrice, attended the 1.5-hour meeting. He said: “The attendees ranged from crowdfunding companies to payment services businesses. There were also several representatives from the treasury, the FCA, the Number 10 Policy Unit, the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and a few of the smaller banks.”

He went on to say the organisers of the meeting mentioned bitcoin in their introductory speech, describing it along the lines of an “exciting new area of financial innovation, but one that faces some regulatory issues”.

Lack of guidance

Later on in the meeting, Robinson raised the point that the lack of clear regulatory guidance in the UK is stifling innovation in the digital currency space.

“Guidance has been issued in Germany and the US, which has led to a lot of digital currency startups in those countries,” he said, adding that BitPrice as a company welcomes regulation.
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“We think it should be appropriate legislation, but we also think it should be put in place fairly rapidly, otherwise the UK is going to lose out.”
One of the meeting attendees suggested there should be an international approach to the regulation of bitcoin and other virtual currencies, but Robinson questioned how easy this would be and how long it would take to create. He suggested that, while the UK can tend to follow in the footsteps of the US, regulators at the meeting said they are going to look into the subject themselves and make their own decisions.

Robinson said he left the meeting feeling largely optimistic, as the FCA said it is actively looking into virtual currencies and how they should be regulated. However, the body didn’t give any kind of time frame on how long it would take to come to a decision.

“The very broad point the FCA made was that it needs to balance the concerns and the security of consumers against the wish to increase competition in the financial services sector and to encourage innovation,” he explained.

A spokesperson from the FCA said: “Whilst the FCA does not regulate bitcoins, businesses providing services related to bitcoins, or other digital currencies, should consider whether they are carrying on regulated activities. As you would expect, the FCA does watch new developments in the market.”

Banking issues

Robinson thinks one of the main issues faced not only by digital currency businesses, but all money services companies, is that it’s very difficult to find a bank to work with.

He said
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“The regulators’ current point of view is that it’s up to the banks – they can make a commercial decision not to work with a company. Although, companies at the meeting made the point that banks are making these ‘commercial decisions’ because of the regulatory framework imposed on them by the regulators. That framework should be changed.”
BitPrice is currently lobbying, meeting with regulators and meeting with banks in an attempt to make it easier for UK-based bitcoin companies to gain bank accounts.

UK Bitcoin Foundation

Robinson is one of around six people who have been involved in creating the UK chapter of the Bitcoin Foundation.

“We will follow the broad aims of the Bitcoin Foundation to protect, promote and standardise bitcoin with a focus on the UK. We will represent bitcoin businesses and users when they come up against regulators and the government,” he explained.

The UK chapter’s board is now in place, but it is waiting for the foundation to explain exactly how the relationship between the two will work.
102  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: @Friedcat: A forgotten promise? on: September 03, 2013, 08:40:55 PM
76BTC in june !!!

OMG...what a assrape !!!

no ROI...never...
All in the Friedcat pocket (he love suckers miners )

What a joke...

Please wake up guys !
Don't be fooled like that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7-QJGVdM4
103  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC Countdown for Shipment on: September 03, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
To me .... 5 different members posting their tracking number on the board here or 5 different sets of Screenshots floating on the internet that show final KNC hardware hashing counts as fair proof in my eyes.  I think you are correct in that 'respected' is somewhat subjective in nature.  I suppose that in the eyes of bitbet, 'respected falls into these following categories:

NOT SCAMMER
NOT NEWBIE (<5 posts or 5 hours on bitcointalk.org)
I think 5 members showcasing stock hashing rates on any major guild would be enough for me as anyone can photoshop a pic.
104  Bitcoin / Hardware / KNC reduces prices by ~20-30% for Saturn and Jupiter on: September 02, 2013, 10:09:18 PM
I think this is going to annoy quite a few people who have outstanding orders.
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KnCMiner has cut the price of its mining rigs by as much as 28%, with the Saturn now on sale for $2,995 and the Jupiter for $4,995.

The company also revealed today that the Mercury bitcoin hardware miner has been discontinued (this previously came with a price tag of $1,995).

All orders placed from today will be delivered from mid-November, but existing orders will be shipped no later than 15th October.

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the company decided to cut the prices after covering its non-recurring engineering costs and deciding it would like to pass on the cost savings to its customers.

When asked whether he thinks some of the company’s existing customers, who paid the higher price for their rigs, would be annoyed that the prices had been cut, he said: “There is a one-month shipping gap between the last order going out of the existing sales (15th October) and the new deliveries at the reduced price (mid-November) so we don’t think people will be too annoyed.”

KnCMiner’s latest update said those who haven’t yet placed an order may still have the chance to get their hands on miners that are in the batch set for October delivery:
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    “There currently exist a few unpaid orders which are marked for October delivery. If these orders remain unpaid, they will become available for purchase again, unless payment is received.

    The devices will then be added back into our site on a daily bases. The same procedure will also be in place for refunded orders. So keep an eye on our site for any October deliveries.”
It goes on to suggest existing customers will go to the top of the queue when the company releases new bitcoin mining devices.
New slogan chosen to be printed on PCB

KnCMiner’s original Mars PCBs carried the phrase: “Bitcoins make the world go around!”. Given this grammatical faux pas, the company decided to offer its followers on the BitcoinTalk forum the opportunity to choose the new slogan for its controller boards.

On Friday (30th August), KnCMiner selected the winning slogan, which it hasn’t revealed yet.

“We won’t release the winner or the slogan until we have the boards in hand. There are a few other nice surprises on the boards for you all to see when they ship,” Cole said.

Here are some of the suggestions that KnCMiner liked, but didn’t quite make the cut:
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        Commanderuk – Difficulties mastered are opportunities won.
        600watt – Mine the Gap.
        Kaerf – “The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on the brink of second bailout for banks”
        The joint – where zeros and ones become heroes and fun.
        The Avenger – “A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is a reality” – John Lennon
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: 25k coins bought, $10 jump on: September 01, 2013, 11:12:08 PM
To think,another 25,000 buy would put us at $200.
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the BTC price headed? on: September 01, 2013, 07:52:50 PM
I disagree. Bitcoin is much bigger than GOX.
It is....but tell that to the price fluctuations.
107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the BTC price headed? on: September 01, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Imo,Up.....as long as Mtgox is the lead exchange for BTC.
108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 31, 2013, 11:20:31 PM
With the convoluted issues at Mtgox concerning "Withdrawals" it didn't technically function as an 'exchange' therefore they,imo,have lost their spot and this rally might be somewhat over.I think if there is another rally Mtgox might not be responsible for it and perhaps another exchange will be looked at as the price point for BTC.
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will KncMiner miners also mine other crypto currencies? on: August 31, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
I was wondering this exact same thing considering I believe it would only work with a FPGA formatted asic?am I right.Wouldn't it be possible if they simply re-did the code to work with S crypt.
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: August 31, 2013, 02:09:00 AM
I just realized KNC has stopped taking orders for the Mercury..
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: August 30, 2013, 09:17:34 PM
them talking about +30%

is that hashing rate ? or wishful thinking ?
It could be hash rate.I remember the offerings before were @ 175 for Saturns and @ 350 for Jupiters.....unless they mean these prior numbers.
112  Economy / Speculation / Re: future december prices of btc on: August 30, 2013, 08:50:45 PM
Where there is world conflict BTC rises for some reason,whether financial or security based issues .The only thing I'd be concerned about is Mtgox still has significant ability to influence the value of BTC somewhat and this means we still have some ways to go before having relevant exchanges instead of just one controlling the value.
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 30, 2013, 08:42:25 PM
I did mention this earlier.
114  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Where are the KnC Miner Asic Chips? Where? Will KNc Ships On Time? on: August 30, 2013, 05:14:58 AM
On Bitbet the odds are actually against KNC delivering on time,we'll just have to see how it all goes considering the vast amount of orders they have.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: August 30, 2013, 03:29:47 AM
With Hashfast indiciating they 'taped' out it makes me wonder when the ASICs for KNC will finally arrive to get this whole thing finally rolling on their end.I think this is actually healthy competition between the two companies.
116  Economy / Goods / Re: Sony PSP-3000 With CFW and 8GB Memory Stick on: August 29, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
That's is an awful lot of BTC for a used,used item that was also hacked....
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 29, 2013, 02:38:02 PM
at the risk of getting slaughtered here, does no one feel the price is being propped up? don't get me wrong i've been well wrong since July consistently but I dont see unabashed demand for bitcoins, i see huge buys at 4 AM UK time when the US is starting to go to bed and massive bid walls appearing as has been the case it seems from 75 onwards.

I am just curious as to how far this will go, clearly there is little trading activity at these new prices and those walls propping up the price if they dissapeared we would find ourselves at 120 again in no time flat.

Just curious if I'm reading this wrong and this is actually huge demand / paradigm shift.  To me it seems like a giant bet on which way the whales will go next.
Hmmm.....Whales can only Dive,lol!
118  Economy / Speculation / Re: my guess for the rest of the year on: August 29, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
For the time being I would say we're in the positive in the short term but I think we are headed for a correction if not a massive one between late Dec.-Feb.You just have to look closely at the news.
119  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: August 28, 2013, 02:41:41 PM
The only thing I know is that many thought a year ago BFL would have raised the difficulty unreasonably high IF they got their devices out.....nothing is fully set in the Bitcoin world! Wink
120  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCminer 48 hour controller board slogan challenge on: August 27, 2013, 04:39:13 PM
"Mercury,Saturn and Jupiter.....for the hottest performance out of this world!"
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