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321  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 02, 2015, 02:36:13 PM
So he figured out on Dec 22 that they had no business plan, and still managed to hang on and lose enough money to need to sue garza?


It is way worse than that. Allen was negotiating for the job of #2 at GAW at that time as well. Literally. That Email above is part of the exchanges where Allen is trying to convince Josh to hire him. He was buttering up Homero with everything he had, but in the end apparently did not end up employed by GAW. Why? Because of his "higher than average ethics"? Because he became aware of the blatant and obvious fraud being committed by Garza and GAW that was widely known to anyone with a lick of common sense at that point? NOPE. He did not get that job as Josh's #1 because of GREED. Plain and simple. Allen insisted that he needed at minimum $150,000/year and Josh refused to budge from the cap on GAW salaries of $90,000.




This was in response to Josh stating that he would not go over $90,000 for Allen's salary.



Look what I posted that very same day:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9984656#msg9984656

And now it appears that the GAWsuit (and Bitlend as part of this plan) is being run this same way.

"Ermergard! I Jest cunt figger out how ta run dis dad gummed lawsuit. GAW shucks! Sowey gais, I tried so berry berry hawd, too! Sowwwy!"

Sorry, I am not buying that bullshit. Being too busy with running some scam shady operations with the people he is suing does not explain things like why the suit was intentionally set up in Texas, but it does make sense if Allen's intention was to fuck the GAWsuit completely.



 
322  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 02, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
I posted this on the Bitlend thread, and I think it merits posting here as well, as it is about the GAWsuit. This is not an accusation, just my personal opinion on what is transpiring.

A lot of information has been pouring in during the past couple days about suspicions surrounding Allen and the GAWsuit. No proof of that at this point, but I have now seen compelling (to me anyways) evidence that this Bitlend operation is in fact a Hindenburg that was intended to crash and burn with a lot of smoke and fire that no one who is paying attention would miss. Is Allen partnering with GAW/Paycoin scum no accident or stupid blunder at all, but part of a plan to monkey wrench the GAWsuit? I know that at least one of these tippers was directly involved in the setup involving the Bitlend launch and the "leak" about Joe Mordica being involved and was suspicious at the time but did not understand what could be going on, but now realizes he was being used in a setup and is scared shitless about what he now knows he is involved in.

I have also had someone who has proven to have accurate insider information in the past (VERY accurate  Wink) tell me flat out that he is certain that Allen is intentionally throwing the "GAWsuit" but he is not involved and does not have any real proof, but again, he gave some damned good tips on where to start looking. That, combined with what piqued my interest in this possibility in the first place makes me personally convinced that Allen is throwing the GAWsuit, and that this Bitlend clusterfuck is simply part of that plan. I am going to spend some serious time this weekend trying to sort out and connect these dots I now have, and please, if you have ANY tips, ideas, theories, or evidence post it here or PM me.

To any of you who are knowingly or unknowingly involved in this, the time to come clean is now. Tomorrow will be too late.

P.S: For those of you who are still skeptical of this (I am assuming this is most people at this point), just read some of D. Allen Shinners Emails to Josh. The guy sounds like a Harvard Professor giving a business lecture FFS. And then go back to the first page of the Bitlend thread and read how he decided to launch Bitlend and ask yourself why someone this knowledgeable about business would intentionally launch a business like a complete and total fucking imbecile on crack. Think about it.




323  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 02, 2015, 01:07:09 PM
The following is not an accusation, just my personal opinion on what is transpiring.

A lot of information has been pouring in during the past couple days about suspicions surrounding Allen and the GAWsuit. No proof of that at this point, but I have now seen compelling (to me) evidence that this Bitlend operation is in fact a Hindenburg that was intended to crash and burn with a lot of smoke and fire that no one who is paying attention would miss. Is Allen partnering with GAW/Paycoin scum no accident or stupid blunder at all, but part of a plan to monkey wrench the GAWsuit? I know that at least one of these tippers was directly involved in the setup involving the Bitlend launch and the "leak" about Joe Mordica being involved and was suspicious at the time but did not understand what could be going on, but now realizes he was being used in a setup and is scared shitless about what he now knows he is involved in.

I have also had someone who has proven to have accurate insider information in the past (VERY accurate  Wink) tell me flat out that he is certain that Allen is intentionally throwing the "GAWsuit" but he is not involved and does not have any real proof, but again, he gave some damned good tips on where to start looking. That, combined with what piqued my interest in this possibility in the first place makes me personally convinced that Allen is throwing the GAWsuit, and that this Bitlend clusterfuck is simply part of that plan. I am going to spend some serious time this weekend trying to sort out and connect these dots I now have, and please, if you have ANY tips, ideas, theories, or evidence post it here or PM me.

To any of you who are knowingly or unknowingly involved in this, the time to come clean is now. Tomorrow will be too late.

P.S: For those of you who are still skeptical of this (I am assuming this is most people at this point), just read some of D. Allen Shinners Emails to Josh. The guy sounds like a Harvard Professor giving a business lecture FFS. And then go back to the first page of this thread and read how he decided to launch Bitlend and ask yourself why someone this knowledgeable about business would intentionally launch a business like a complete and total fucking imbecile on crack. Think about it.




324  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
is that scam mordicas new criminal company?

I believe his full official name is

"Totally Honest And Talented Joe Who Was Unduly Repressed And Victimized By Garza But Very Surprisingly Exhibits The Same Dysfunction In His Own Projects"

It's like it's contagious or something.



Oh so basically, like idiocy. :X

"Known scammer group operating lending services and partake in obvious group chill-ing", if this was a real life stock company or some such, it would be a scandal and the company would get torn to pieces with the media.

The group would be at least under heavy monitoring. Why doesn't BTC get this kind of justice? Even though ultimately its all moot?

I suspect that the Powers That Be let these crimes in Crypto run wild so that they can then respond to the outrage at this brazen unchecked criminality coming from the citizenry. They want to lock Crypto down tight, but they don't want to appear to be carrying out this agenda because people would hate them for it, therefore they let the problem fester until the citizens "demand regulation", and then they will happily step in and regulate it to suit their needs and be viewed as diligent heroes fighting for the good of the citizens instead of self serving tyrants in the pocket of the Banksters.

That's insanely conspiracy-theoristic...

And i'm not sure it's only a crazy's theory, most governments already start acknowledging Bitcoin with often mere bitter attitude, or try to tax it to hell even though its not directly possible, or make it illegal or try to fight it in a way or another. Or are too uptight and just overlook it as insignificant.

Only a few look up to it, so...

By doing 1+1, we already know that Governments need control over their fake FIAT currency so i guess fighting it comes naturally for them.

But that's just it, they are NOT fighting it, they are simply molding public perception to suit their needs. I have no doubt that they have plans for using a crypto based currency at some point, but it will be THEIR coin. Maybe they will co opt Bitcoin (doubtful), or they will just make their own, does not matter. Believe what you want. The fact is that the narrative put forth for public consumption by those at the top who are pulling the strings in the world has nothing to do with what the real motivations and goals they have are. This is hardly anything new, but the ways they are able to saturate the datasphere these days makes it a lot more convincing than it used to be back when the official narrative had to be sent out via town crier.
325  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 09:11:03 PM
is that scam mordicas new criminal company?

I believe his full official name is

"Totally Honest And Talented Joe Who Was Unduly Repressed And Victimized By Garza But Very Surprisingly Exhibits The Same Dysfunction In His Own Projects"

It's like it's contagious or something.



Oh so basically, like idiocy. :X

"Known scammer group operating lending services and partake in obvious group chill-ing", if this was a real life stock company or some such, it would be a scandal and the company would get torn to pieces with the media.

The group would be at least under heavy monitoring. Why doesn't BTC get this kind of justice? Even though ultimately its all moot?

I suspect that the Powers That Be let these crimes in Crypto run wild so that they can then respond to the outrage at this brazen unchecked criminality coming from the citizenry. They want to lock Crypto down tight, but they don't want to appear to be carrying out this agenda because people would hate them for it, therefore they let the problem fester until the citizens "demand regulation", and then they will happily step in and regulate it to suit their needs and be viewed as diligent heroes fighting for the good of the citizens instead of self serving tyrants in the pocket of the Banksters.

I really don't buy that new "laws" or regulations are needed at all. There are plenty of laws existing right now that they could round most of the known criminals in Crytpo up and lock their asses in the can and most of this shit would stop tomorrow, but that is not what is happening.
326  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 08:49:50 PM
I thought this was Joe Mordica's new gig!
http://www.voxo.co/



Quite the dapper looking bunch of folks.  

OK, all the tall people in the front. No, not you "Jaws from the Bond films", you stay in back and look creepy. There. Perfect! Everyone smile and say "Retard!"

Is that Grandpa Munster on the left? And who is the creep behind him reflected in the window? *shudders*



327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♦♦BITSTONE♦BST♦♦NEW DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY UNDERWAY♦♦NO PREMINE♦♦ NO ICO♦♦♦ on: October 01, 2015, 06:32:25 PM
I'm ready to invest.  Who can I give my BTC to?  i haven't been scammed in a while, a gem backed coin seems like a creative new approach to scamming.

Hustle on over to the new Bitlend.io and get a nice fat loan first. Comes from this same pack of Paycoiners.

If you are unfamiliar with Bitlend, check out the launch thread. It kicks off with Jason Sponaugle (one of the Bitlend Team) lying and saying he is a satisfied customer of Bitlend, blah blah and has a real nice boner from his experience with them. Korfax ( Michael J, Koerner ) jumps in to do some tag team shilling with him. Then Jason is exposed, and the whole thing went straight off a fucking cliff, Wile E. Coyote style after Allen revealed that the entire operation is people involved in the GAW/Paycoin scammage in one way or another. This outfit has shady written all over it. Enjoy yourself if you choose to send these guys all of your info is all I can say at this point.

328  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 04:50:12 PM
Updated to reflect Joe Mordica's new gig with Allen Shinners & Bitlend:



How is my PhotoChop job? As good as the first one done by the GAW team? I know, I know, in order to be really legit Joe would have to spray paint "Bitlend.io" on the floor.... Roll Eyes
329  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 04:40:47 PM
I posted this in the GAW thread and I think it merits posting here. Korfax, you especially need to read the bottom part if nothing else:

I am still trying to figure out if it is ridiculous hubris or plain old fucking stupidity. Probably a mix of both I guess. Longshot chance that this idiotic move was intentional- if the theory that Allen is actually throwing the GAWsuit proves to be true he might be doing this to discredit Joe Mordica's testimony- which the suit is relying on if it has any chance at all, delay the trial for as long as possible, then expose himself as having a confilct of interest and step aside- so that the whole lawsuit process has to go back to square one, etc. It is actually possible, the more I think about it, the more it looks like the only thing that is logical. Not sure how much you read of that thread, but it kicks off with Jason Sponaugle (one the Bitlend Team) lying and saying he is a satisfied customer of Bitlend, blah blah and has a real nice boner from his experience with them. Korfax ( Michael J, Koerner ) jumps in to do some tag team shilling with him. Then Jason is exposed, and the whole thing goes straight off a fucking cliff, Wile E. Coyote style.

Honestly? I didn't read it at all, i have my fill just reading the stream of analyzed information coming from here. But when known scammer group start a project together, then start acting super chill-y as part of an obvious offline plan...

Trying to do a second one, Homero style? Then I guess they learned well from Papa.

This was my reaction. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183413.msg12469532#msg12469532

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.





My head actually blew up just like that. Lit up half of Boston.

Still haven't quite completely digested the possibilities of what is actually going on. Every time I think of another possible angle, it is there. Coincidences are piling up like crazy. The possibility that the GAWsuit is a sham is now looking logical instead of way out there tinfoil hat shit.

Do you remember Josh offering a 10BTC bounty on Hashtalk if you could lay out his complete Plan from the start to the end? I'm wondering if anyone claimed it, but bottom line, i wonder if that included the scammy portion of his plan. Tongue

I don't think Joshy has ever paid up on a single wager in his life. Some people don't seem to think that he is still playing the GAW/Paycoin scam game, but that is simply wrong. He is in the final innings now, he's on third and the fucker is trying to steal home plate. Knocking out the lawsuit removes probably the largest - and most persistent, of any monetary liabilities he is faced with. Quite a bargain if Garza were to make one guy whole++ . ~200k is cheap for negating $5,000,000 - $20,000,000 worth of judgements that would haunt Garza forever. And save someone the time and trouble of having to sue to get anything back. Quite possible that the ~$100k Allen says he lost would have ruined him. IF Garza (they were pals for quite some time) were to say  "he look, why can't we be reezunable hear. You need your investment back, and I need to get lawsuits off my back. I make you whole, and then some, *soon™, (pays him in Paycoins  Smiley) and all you have to do is this little thing for me." Then get him to wrap up as many GAW victims as possible in one suit, signing away their rights (supposedly) to sue on their own. I think malfeasance or utter incompetence on Allen's part can be easily shown if anyone wants out of that bullshit document they signed when they joined the GAWsuit. Where is the part on that making it clear that Allen is in business Joe Mordica, one of the people in large part responsible for the fraud they are suing over?

The whole thing is suspicious as hell to me. The Bitlend launch fiasco is either staggering stupidity- or something else - such as:  What if this was the time they had in mind to introduce the fact that Allen is in cahoots with the star witness for the lawsuit and start to wreck the viability of the suit in general? Waste as much time as possible (6 months now) and then wreck it as gently and slowly as possible, and then it would be left in a shambles and more than a year will have passed. Not that they would likely ever collect anything substantial anyways, since they located the suit in Texas- the deadbeat state. If this scenario or something close to it is true, one would have to wonder about people like Korfax" role. He loves to hang around with this pack of Con men and thieves, so whatever he gets he fucking deserves, regardless of whether he is a player or just a useful "hangaround" idiot to the Gang. If the dumbass is just a stooge, he might think about shifting his anger a bit at this point. I am not the one who got him to soak himself in gasoline and roast marshmallows, that would be the Paycoin Gang.

This reminds me of an old  truism Grandpa Revere used to say a lot: "If you lie down with dirty filthy rabid dogs, they'll fuck ya in the ass."
330  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 04:14:57 PM
I am still trying to figure out if it is ridiculous hubris or plain old fucking stupidity. Probably a mix of both I guess. Longshot chance that this idiotic move was intentional- if the theory that Allen is actually throwing the GAWsuit proves to be true he might be doing this to discredit Joe Mordica's testimony- which the suit is relying on if it has any chance at all, delay the trial for as long as possible, then expose himself as having a confilct of interest and step aside- so that the whole lawsuit process has to go back to square one, etc. It is actually possible, the more I think about it, the more it looks like the only thing that is logical. Not sure how much you read of that thread, but it kicks off with Jason Sponaugle (one the Bitlend Team) lying and saying he is a satisfied customer of Bitlend, blah blah and has a real nice boner from his experience with them. Korfax ( Michael J, Koerner ) jumps in to do some tag team shilling with him. Then Jason is exposed, and the whole thing goes straight off a fucking cliff, Wile E. Coyote style.

Honestly? I didn't read it at all, i have my fill just reading the stream of analyzed information coming from here. But when known scammer group start a project together, then start acting super chill-y as part of an obvious offline plan...

Trying to do a second one, Homero style? Then I guess they learned well from Papa.

This was my reaction. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183413.msg12469532#msg12469532

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.





My head actually blew up just like that. Lit up half of Boston.

Still haven't quite completely digested the possibilities of what is actually going on. Every time I think of another possible angle, it is there. Coincidences are piling up like crazy. The possibility that the GAWsuit is a sham is now looking logical instead of way out there tinfoil hat shit.

Do you remember Josh offering a 10BTC bounty on Hashtalk if you could lay out his complete Plan from the start to the end? I'm wondering if anyone claimed it, but bottom line, i wonder if that included the scammy portion of his plan. Tongue

I don't think Joshy has ever paid up on a single wager in his life. Some people don't seem to think that he is still playing the GAW/Paycoin scam game, but that is simply wrong. He is in the final innings now, he's on third and the fucker is trying to steal home plate. Knocking out the lawsuit removes probably the largest - and most persistent, of any monetary liabilities he is faced with. Quite a bargain if Garza were to make one guy whole++ . ~200k is cheap for negating $5,000,000 - $20,000,000 worth of judgements that would haunt Garza forever. And save someone the time and trouble of having to sue to get anything back. Quite possible that the ~$100k Allen says he lost would have ruined him. IF Garza (they were pals for quite some time) were to say  "he look, why can't we be reezunable hear. You need your investment back, and I need to get lawsuits off my back. I make you whole, and then some, *soon™, (pays him in Paycoins  Smiley) and all you have to do is this little thing for me." Then get him to wrap up as many GAW victims as possible in one suit, signing away their rights (supposedly) to sue on their own. I think malfeasance or utter incompetence on Allen's part can be easily shown if anyone wants out of that bullshit document they signed when they joined the GAWsuit. Where is the part on that making it clear that Allen is in business Joe Mordica, one of the people in large part responsible for the fraud they are suing over?

The whole thing is suspicious as hell to me. The Bitlend launch fiasco is either staggering stupidity- or something else - such as:  What if this was the time they had in mind to introduce the fact that Allen is in cahoots with the star witness for the lawsuit and start to wreck the viability of the suit in general? Waste as much time as possible (6 months now) and then wreck it as gently and slowly as possible, and then it would be left in a shambles and more than a year will have passed. Not that they would likely ever collect anything substantial anyways, since they located the suit in Texas- the deadbeat state. If this scenario or something close to it is true, one would have to wonder about people like Korfax" role. He loves to hang around with this pack of Con men and thieves, so whatever he gets he fucking deserves, regardless of whether he is a player or just a useful "hangaround" idiot to the Gang. If the dumbass is just a stooge, he might think about shifting his anger a bit at this point. I am not the one who got him to soak himself in gasoline and roast marshmallows, that would be the Paycoin Gang.

This reminds me of an old  truism Grandpa Revere used to say a lot: "If you lie down with dirty filthy rabid dogs, they'll fuck ya in the ass."
331  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
I am still trying to figure out if it is ridiculous hubris or plain old fucking stupidity. Probably a mix of both I guess. Longshot chance that this idiotic move was intentional- if the theory that Allen is actually throwing the GAWsuit proves to be true he might be doing this to discredit Joe Mordica's testimony- which the suit is relying on if it has any chance at all, delay the trial for as long as possible, then expose himself as having a confilct of interest and step aside- so that the whole lawsuit process has to go back to square one, etc. It is actually possible, the more I think about it, the more it looks like the only thing that is logical. Not sure how much you read of that thread, but it kicks off with Jason Sponaugle (one the Bitlend Team) lying and saying he is a satisfied customer of Bitlend, blah blah and has a real nice boner from his experience with them. Korfax ( Michael J, Koerner ) jumps in to do some tag team shilling with him. Then Jason is exposed, and the whole thing goes straight off a fucking cliff, Wile E. Coyote style.

Honestly? I didn't read it at all, i have my fill just reading the stream of analyzed information coming from here. But when known scammer group start a project together, then start acting super chill-y as part of an obvious offline plan...

Trying to do a second one, Homero style? Then I guess they learned well from Papa.

This was my reaction. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183413.msg12469532#msg12469532

So, let me get this straight: The guy organizing the group lawsuit against GAW is in business with some of the central people who were part of the GAW/Paycoin scam, and this is but one of several creepily Garza like operations he has sprouting to life.





My head actually blew up just like that. Lit up half of Boston.

Still haven't quite completely digested the possibilities of what is actually going on. Every time I think of another possible angle, it is there. Coincidences are piling up like crazy. The possibility that the GAWsuit is a sham is now looking logical instead of way out there tinfoil hat shit.
332  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
I am still trying to figure out if it is ridiculous hubris or plain old fucking stupidity. Probably a mix of both I guess. Longshot chance that this idiotic move was intentional- if the theory that Allen is actually throwing the GAWsuit proves to be true he might be doing this to discredit Joe Mordica's testimony- which the suit is relying on if it has any chance at all, delay the trial for as long as possible, then expose himself as having a confilct of interest and step aside- so that the whole lawsuit process has to go back to square one, etc. It is actually possible, the more I think about it, the more it looks like the only thing that is logical. Not sure how much you read of that thread, but it kicks off with Jason Sponaugle (one of the Bitlend Team) lying and saying he is a satisfied customer of Bitlend, blah blah and has a real nice boner from his experience with them. Korfax ( Michael J, Koerner ) jumps in to do some tag team shilling with him. Then Jason is exposed, and the whole thing goes straight off a fucking cliff, Wile E. Coyote style.
333  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 02:50:16 PM


So a call of Shenanigans is just then, huh ?

not surprised that Homero J Garza, Former CEO of GAW and Paycoin (scam, fraud, criminal), is using legit companies like Vision Innovations to fake his curriculum vitae on Linkedin.

Well now that he made so many friends online, he better get a face change if he want to lay off the heat. I don't think the community will let him do anything on his current online names, for like, 25 years.

The rest of the GAW/Paycoin Gang are not letting some silly little thing like a widely known reputation for scamming and/or outright fraud stop their career development. The latest from these swell guys is called Bitlend.io . Lead by D. Allen Shinners. Yes, the same D. Allen Shinners who is leading the GAWsuit (no lawsuit yet- just a GAWsuit Wink) is in business with a pack of GAW and Paycoin (temPaycoin/Paycoin Foundation) coolios, including Joe Mordica and Adam Matlack. No. I am not joking.
334  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
you registered just to comment on bitlend?


 Smiley

NO.  Tongue

It seems really strager. I receive an invite, then i submit my id but my accoun was locked.

Are you aware that you just sent your full personal and financial information- everything needed to steal your identity- to Joe Mordica, the guy who ran the technical side of the GAW / Paycoin fraud schemes?
335  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: October 01, 2015, 01:38:16 PM
Did they check their employee roster for "Homero Garza"? Or maybe he is going by "HashKing" these days.
336  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 03:07:38 AM
I just can't understand what is wrong with these people who seemingly have a decent life going on and are addicted to Paycoin and the cult around it to the point that they lose all connection to reality. It was a FRAUD. Some of you even participated in it. You got PAYCOINED. Come clean, Get over it and quit trying to be little Garza's FFS. When you look at the culture and dynamic of the shitstain Paycoiner forums they are all little Hashtalks. They miss the cult aspect of Hashtalk and Paycoin and want it to continue. Those that wielded power within the cult miss it mucho more than the flock, too.

P,S: Totally agree about the payment in Paycoin. From the Emails we know that Garza made most of his deals with as much of his play money as he could with a sprinkle of BTC tossed in as a sweetener. Makes people motivated to shill for their dinner that way, and of course costs Josh pretty much zero.

They saw garza get away with it so they will sink down to that level to try and get some of it back. I'm constantly amazed by how little effort these thieves end up putting in to some of these scams.

Another weird part is the deep delusion of people like Korfax that can't seem to grasp that they are basing their actions on what they think is real, because that is what they all say to each other in their Paycoiner echochambers. And then when they confront actual reality like here, they are shocked that not everyone is like the fucking imbeciles that they are used to dictating to who then agree and repeat what they have said , like on their private Paycoiner forums.
337  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 02:32:16 AM
I just can't understand what is wrong with these people who seemingly have a decent life going on and are addicted to Paycoin and the cult around it to the point that they lose all connection to reality. It was a FRAUD. Some of you even participated in it. You got PAYCOINED. Come clean, Get over it and quit trying to be little Garza's FFS. Get as far away from Crypto as you can and stay there. Or, do exactly what you have chosen to do instead. How is that working out ? 

When you look at the culture and dynamic of the shitstain Paycoiner forums they are all little Hashtalks. They miss the cult aspect of Hashtalk and Paycoin and want it to continue. Those that wielded power within the cult miss it mucho more than the flock, too.

P,S: Totally agree about the payment in Paycoin. From the Emails we know that Garza made most of his deals with as much of his play money as he could with a sprinkle of BTC tossed in as a sweetener. Makes people motivated to shill for their dinner that way, and of course costs Josh pretty much zero.
338  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 12:28:57 AM
Here is Korfax, aka Michael J. Koerner defending Josh Garza's fraud scheme on Jabuary 21, 2015- LONG after it was apparent to most people that GAW and Paycoin were outright fraud operations.

https://i.imgur.com/vLRgVci.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/u4UYsED.jpg

http://coinfire.io/2015/01/21/paybase-operating-illegally-without-msb-licenses/

You had no problem giving your legal opinion about Garza's fraud operations. You were extremely vocal in calling out Mike Johnson of Coinfire  on Hashtalk as well.

Again: Were you paid by Josh Garza to post this rubbish?

The posts you found were from Jan. Please don't remind of that. I cant believe I said that. I wish you'd read some of the ones I posted after I found out it was ALL one giant scam. OR The ones I posted when that coinstand garbage was released. If I could take them back, I would. I actually sent Mike an email apologizing ( I wish I still had it.). He was right the entire time just like a lot of others. I'm only guilty of believing Josh and his lies.

If by compensated by GAW you mean them stealing over $15,000 thousand dollars from me. I was never paid in any way.

That's all I got for you. I wish I had the answers you're looking for.

https://i.imgur.com/I5NsrCz.jpg
http://archive.is/IaGTc

Nice "Notta truth" there Michael.

Homero clearly stated many times that the jerks running his sheep pen to keep them docile so they could be thoroughly sheared through his fraud operation  got paid to do so.

Care to revise your deceptive statement?

Maybe he wasn't paid directly?  Maybe he did it for free or for other "perks"?  Just guessing.

But Garza stole/scammed from everyone it seems.  Even his "employees".

Phildo noticed Korfax' deceptive half truth and I picked it apart a page ago. Took me a while to find a thread where Josh contradicts him, but I knew he said they got paid more than once. And Michael's choice was to be all snakey. Wow- you are Sooooo Clever!

That doesn't answer the payment question.

Like I told Vlad, him being stupid enough to hold onto the XPY he was given until now doesn't mean he wasn't paid.

Were you given compensation for the nonsense that you posted did? If that compensation is worthless now (hashlets/xpy) is irrelevant.

Why do you have an account with bitlend now that Mordica has been exposed as being involved there?

Wow, your right. That sentence seemed odd, but I did not catch the slithering evasive non-answer there.


If by compensated by GAW you mean them stealing over $15,000 thousand dollars from me. I was never paid in any way.
 

What he did was base his "I was never paid in any way" implied answer to the question of whether he was paid by Garza and made it actually be the answer to the question he posed "If by compensated by GAW you mean them stealing over $15,000 thousand dollars from me." Nothing suspicious about that at all. Nope. I know to keep my eyes peeled now. Thanks, Phildo. Wink As the Mike Johnson affair seems to be reaching the point where indictments may come down there are a whole bunch of people CREEPS who were on Garza's payroll for various things that are going to be crapping their pants.

Fuck all of the scumbags who were paid to do dirty work for Garza to grease the wheels of his fraud machine. The ones who did it for free are just bigger fools than those who got paid. Those involved in promoting Garza's fraud schemes have repeatedly been given chances to come clean, and instead they want to keep the deception going. If it turns out that someone lied about being on that list, and you had better bet your ass that Ol' Joshypoo kept a list boys, all the much more damning for them. Fuck "em.

Tick, Tock Tick, Tock The clock is ticking, assholes.
339  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: October 01, 2015, 12:20:47 AM
Here is Korfax, aka Michael J. Koerner defending Josh Garza's fraud scheme on Jabuary 21, 2015- LONG after it was apparent to most people that GAW and Paycoin were outright fraud operations.




http://coinfire.io/2015/01/21/paybase-operating-illegally-without-msb-licenses/

You had no problem giving your legal opinion about Garza's fraud operations. You were extremely vocal in calling out Mike Johnson of Coinfire  on Hashtalk as well.

Again: Were you paid by Josh Garza to post this rubbish?

The posts you found were from Jan. Please don't remind of that. I cant believe I said that. I wish you'd read some of the ones I posted after I found out it was ALL one giant scam. OR The ones I posted when that coinstand garbage was released. If I could take them back, I would. I actually sent Mike an email apologizing ( I wish I still had it.). He was right the entire time just like a lot of others. I'm only guilty of believing Josh and his lies.

If by compensated by GAW you mean them stealing over $15,000 thousand dollars from me. I was never paid in any way.

That's all I got for you. I wish I had the answers you're looking for.


http://archive.is/IaGTc

Nice "Notta truth" there Michael.

Homero clearly stated many times that the jerks running his sheep pen to keep them docile so they could be thoroughly sheared through his fraud operation got paid to do so. Did you get paid in addition to being a "moderator" on Hashtalk as well?

Care to revise your deceptive statement?
340  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: New Lending Platform BitLend.io on: September 30, 2015, 11:25:14 PM
Did you ever see Korfax mention his profession on any of the Paycoin forums, Boki?

I do not remember, would need to recheck this question. There was a talk about an financial expert than only him can be, his doings including hyping etc. show how he loved this new role, he felt like big player. I bet that if he wouldn't know that he is exposed, he would probably post now that they all should buy as price is going up.

I suspect in Michael J. Koerner's case all the payment that was required for him to run rough shod on the pack of sheep Homero had rounded up to be sheared was for Josh to let him hang out and act like he was a "bigshot" like his hero. The power trip the scumbags financial professionals and such who ran Hashtalk were on was sickening. The way he slipped in the slithering non-answer when questioned makes me also suspect that he just might have been paid as well. He definitely did not say NO, when I clearly asked him YES, or NO as to whether he was being paid to be a prick over on Hashtalk.

You forgot to mention that Mr. Financial Expert forgot to exit, so far about motivation. His involvement is pretty hidden, deep and looks very dirty. It makes me only mad that he came over to pretend that he does not know anything, sorry Paul, this sucker can kiss my ass! He stills shills in spending our time, quoting and not answering, he throws away our time and trashes this thread.

For a "financial professional" to be exposed to all that was written about GAW and Paycoin and to remain shilling for those obvious frauds to sucker in more victims for a long period of time means he is either a total clown or he knew what was going on and profited from or otherwise derived pleasure from the thrill of being in on the big score with Josh Garza. I don't see any in between.  

I love how your translations read, Boki. Did you see any of the posts by "Serious Invest" back on Hashtalk? He was someone acting like he was translating from Russian to English , and he made fun of Josh and Paycoin. Very Funny. Your posts remind me of that, even though I am assuming that you really are using a translator.
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