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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 10:32:01 PM
Thanks for your honest concern Smiley

I thought the sarcasm was obvious. My only real concern right now is watching this entire scheme completely fall apart, so I can laugh some more.

These forums are quite entertaining at times.

* Xian01 resumes consuming unhealthy quantities of popcorn

It was indeed, obviously your radar is off today Smiley

Are you going to respond to my request that you explain your accusation that I have made death threats?

I was in deep and was given what was ordered and promised up until a point.....a point where "10,000" other people or "dullest retards" thought the same thing according to the SEC.

So singling me out is a bit of a stretch.

Oh, and when you say: "blatant fraud scheme being brought forth by one of Garza's Hashtalkers"  Don't forget your buddy suchmooon was very much one of those "Garza's Hashtalkers"  I remember it very well.

"10,000 other people" didn't all shill for GAW, in fact most of them didn't. Trying to blend into the crowd now? Smiley

And to make it easy on readers I have poop-colored another example of your made-up shit. An great specimen of a BitStone investor ladies and gentlemen. Claims to have learned from and repented past deeds only to do the exact same thing again.

* With a clone or imitation of Paycoin that Josh Garza had created for his blatant and obvious fraud scheme, no less.

buckrogers: Dumbest guy on the planet in the Galaxy? Or part of these operations? You decide.

P.S: Is Bitstone a clone from Paycoin? Or just real similar?

Good luck with all your death threats Paul...stupid monkey.

I am afraid you have lost me here, my good man. Can you please explain what you mean with this outrageous and baseless accusation? Please name exactly who you say I have threatened. I have only asked for an explanation of the Bitstone business model and how wealth is created out of thin air, that Keith will then go through a hell of a lot of trouble and expense to share with everyone instead of just keeping it, you know - just because that's how he rolls.


42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 10:14:06 PM

I'm a low life fuck who has nothing better to do than troll a thread.  My life is pathetic and sooner than later I'll likely just end it all to save my family the shame of my public outing as a worthless altcoin troll.  I always thought I was doing right by hanging with the likes of Spoetnik, Gleb Gamow, etc on this forum but I've finally realized it's time to just end it.

Everything you've all said about my pathetic life up to this point has been correct.  I sit in my moms basement fapping to iPorn all day only to stop to respond to every possible post in this thread.  I've got nothing better to do, I'm the pathetic one, not you guys.

couldnt have said it better myself...

Quoting this masterpiece for posterity. Even literally says Mom's Basement.  Cheesy

P.S: I am ok with my rating on the Rockford/Greaseball scale of measuring human character. How about you?
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 09:05:09 PM
It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.
... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.
Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.
Have you guys no shame?
You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

Yep. Questioning one of the most respected escrows on these forums, when he's (un?)wittingly involved himself in a confidence scam, is shameful behavior alright. How will I ever be able to look at myself in the mirror again ?!?

Where is your shame for not seeing this scheme for what it really is ?

I won't even bother touching on the regulatory issues this coin is likely to face, should authorities decide to investigate; Anyone remember the hassle the physical Bitcoin guys went through for a while, way back when ?

It's like people don't learn from history around here or something.

Your line of questioning was extremely rude, and inappropriate.

Unless you have actual facts this this is a "confidence scam" than you have just insulted one of the most trusted people on bitcointalk without any proof.

So I would suggest before you look to foolish, that you let things play out before you throw out accusations at top members of this forum.

I would bet that a large percentage of members here have done a thing or two in their day, so basing a "scam" on something speculative, is not that intelligent.

I could be wrong, I will state that now, but I have no PROOF or reason at this point in time BEFORE the store is even open, and orders have been processed, to call this a scam.

I have definitely been wrong in the past, in a big way with GAW, and I came back to this forum to apologize to anyone I may have insulted, and was open to a requested Q & A, by someone I didn't even know....I was ridiculed none the less, with lines like tough shit, we don't care, and more childish remarks from so called people who care about the welfare of their families....see above comments.

It didn't bother me, as I moved on with my ventures, but these people have not, and insist on insulting people without any rationale.

This a far cry from a GAW scam IMO, they were operating for over 6 months and delivering on their goods and promises, before Josh went AWOL in the head.

The bitstone store isn't even up yet to my knowledge and no orders have been taken. I would be happy to order some various items, and see if this is the real deal.  

If not, they you guys can all call scam until you turn blue in the face.

thanks!

You shilled for Garza and his blatant and obvious Paycoin fraud operation LONG after even the dullest retards had figured out it was a blatant fraud operation.

The fact that you are here supporting what looks in every way to be another blatant fraud scheme being brought forth by one of Garza's Hashtalkers does not surprise me in the slightest. Something I find interesting is the timing of your posts in relation to the timing of some other member's posts. Are you timing appearances, the same person, or is this a simple coincidence?

You are quite welcome to put me on ignore if my posts bother you.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 08:19:54 PM
It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.



Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.

Have you guys no shame?

You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.

I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"

Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy?  Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).


If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it.  It happens every day on this forum.

Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.

If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.

thanks!


Keith seems to think he can do and say anything he wants regarding this operation and that magically makes it ok and legal. Unlike him, I have received actual real threats- some from his close associates. If he wants to openly threaten the safety of myself and my family and engage in what appears to be criminal intimidation in support of what appears to be a blatant fraud scheme, I can assure you that I am not going to do nothing. If that bothers you, tough shit.

If he decides to proceed with what appears to me to be an intentional act of criminal intimidation, I suggest investing in Popcorn Coin because it will get interesting when all of Keith's sock puppet accounts and such are exposed and a fuller picture of the Bitstones operation will become clear.

Disclaimer: I made up the name Popcorn Coin, so if it actually exists disregard my advice.  Wink

45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, Ognsty, and Bitstone on: December 07, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Fair enough. Just to be clear, you can see that there are some people questioning why you are involved with Bitstones, which appears to be a Matrix type of Pyramid Scheme. I thought that it might be best if I put forth some of the obvious questions in a clear, concise , and respectable manner to try to clear this up. Thank you for your responses.

Just to let you know some background with Keith and myself. If you are not aware, a brand new "totally not Keith Harville  Wink" account here is offering a bounty to identify both Suchmoon and myself. I have received a lot of harassment , LOTS of blatant attacks upon my character with no substantiation, and even some threats over the past year, some of this coming from close associates of Dr. Keith Harville during the time period when dead animals were being mailed to Mike Johnson of Coinfire by someone in the Hashtalk crowd of fucking creeps and imbeciles where Keith liked to hang out during the height of the Paycoin fraud operation. Although I have been concerned and pretty pissed off over one or two threats in particular, I did not view them as legitimate threats to the safety of my family and myself. If and when he successfully pays to identify me, I am going to have to rethink that. I prefer to handle my own affairs and the rare occasions that I have had to contact any law enforcement agency in the last half century or so have been due to necessity as in filing an insurance claim , reporting an emergency, or when I feel that there is something beyond what I can do personally. I suspect that this anonymous person who just made this account offering a bounty to  identify Suchmoon and myself so that we would be open to both cyber/internet and even real world attacks is someone associated with Bitstone, perhaps even Keith Harville himself. If that is the case, I feel that what he is doing is criminal intimidation in support of what is likely a fraud operation, even if I am not positively identified. IANAL though. If I am positively identified I think my best course of action might be to contact these folks and let them know my concerns.
If anyone else has a better suggestion, please let me know.


bitch if you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen

fucking cry baby

Excuse me, kind sir, but I think you have misunderstood what I have said. I am not going anywhere. If this is how Keith wants to proceed then that is where it will lead. This is honest and not meant to be derogatory: I suspect that Keith Harville is mentally unstable or perhaps under the influence of drugs, as evidenced in his posts. And now it appears that he may be targeting me because I am exposing his Bitstone Operation, which appears, based on the information available, to be a fraud scheme. At that point I have to put my family first and swallow my pride and ask for help.  That was the point I was trying to make, which you seem to have missed somehow.  
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask...

You're welcome.  

Let me make this simple.  I am not aware of, nor do I care about anyone's real name or what alternate accounts they use on these forums.  

Fair enough. Just to be clear, you can see that there are some people questioning why you are involved with Bitstones, which appears to be a Matrix type of Pyramid Scheme. I thought that it might be best if I put forth some of the obvious questions in a clear, concise , and respectable manner to try to clear this up. Thank you for your responses.

Just to let you know some background with Keith and myself. If you are not aware, a brand new "totally not Keith Harville  Wink" account here is offering a bounty to identify both Suchmoon and myself. I have received a lot of harassment , LOTS of blatant attacks upon my character with no substantiation, and even some threats over the past year, some of this coming from close associates of Dr. Keith Harville during the time period when dead animals were being mailed to Mike Johnson of Coinfire by someone in the Hashtalk crowd of fucking creeps and imbeciles where Keith liked to hang out during the height of the Paycoin fraud operation. Although I have been concerned and pretty pissed off over one or two threats in particular, I did not view them as legitimate threats to the safety of my family and myself. If and when he successfully pays to identify me, I am going to have to rethink that. I prefer to handle my own affairs and the rare occasions that I have had to contact any law enforcement agency in the last half century or so have been due to necessity as in filing an insurance claim , reporting an emergency, or when I feel that there is something beyond what I can do personally. I suspect that this anonymous person who just made this account offering a bounty to  identify Suchmoon and myself so that we would be open to both cyber/internet and even real world attacks is someone associated with Bitstone, perhaps even Keith Harville himself. If that is the case, I feel that what he is doing is criminal intimidation in support of what is likely a fraud operation, even if I am not positively identified. IANAL though. If I am positively identified I think my best course of action might be to contact these folks and let them know my concerns.
If anyone else has a better suggestion, please let me know.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 06:23:54 PM
I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?

BitStoneDev has not identified himself to me as Dr. Keith Harville, nor do I care what his name is or what alts he uses.  BitStoneDev did not reach out to me, I reached out to him.  Another member of this forum mentioned BitStone in a PM asking if I would provide escrow for them, which I replied that I had no intention of providing escrow for an altcoin and then took a look at their thread.  It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask. You are clearly saying that Bitstonedev was never identified to you as Dr. Keith Harville. Were you aware of the association of any of the accounts that he uses here with Bitstone before you received this unsolicited offer from Bitstonedev? Also, there seems to be a few ways in which Dr. Keith Harville, aka Kilo17, aka Whocarez, aka Bitstonedev, and perhaps more accounts, identifies himself . He has submitted the Bitstone commits with the misspelling of his name "Kieth Harville" and he also sometimes refers to himself as Dr. Keith Harville, MD, as well as some other variants of the name / doctor presentation. Were you aware of the association of any of Bitstonedevs other accounts being associated with/being either Bitstonedev, any variant of Dr. Keith Harville's name, or the Bitstone coin?  
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Keith Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 05:39:48 PM
That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez,  contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville?  Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?  

Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.

Here is what I can be certain of.  The first mention of BitStone in my private messages was ~ a week ago.  I could find no communication with BitStoneDev prior to that.  I initially turned them down as that is my standard reply to altcoins looking for an escrow agent.  My first communication to BitStoneDev, regarding purchasing a silver bar, was made on December 2nd.  It was at that time I understood they were looking for someone to escrow their goods and not their altcoin release.  I then expressed an interest to get involved so that myself and others would be able to safely take advantage of their silver discount.  

I have no involvement with the BitStone operation outside of escrowing purchases of their goods.  I am not aware of anyone using the name Dr. Keith Harvile.  I have no idea who owns the address 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS and it has no association with me.  

I am merely offering my escrow services to buyers who would like to purchase their goods safely, the same as I do for most members of this forum who request it.  The only difference is that I am offering it free of charge for the buyers in this case.  

I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?
49  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 07, 2015, 03:40:44 PM
Been a long time since I posted in this thread, just stopped by to say....  

EDIT: I skipped like 40+ pages Smiley

Does this mean that you have abandoned your brilliant plans to salvage Paycoin?

as far as I remember he wrote a whitepaper (?) on paycoin and how to take over as a community?

As I recall, the plan centered around somehow identifying which coins were controlled by Homero and then forking them out of existence, and I pointed out that the coins were already intentionally hopelessly mixed via the Paycoin Shuffle, and that those who would actually benefit the most from his harebrained plan would be Homero Garza and the packs of "totally not Homero  Wink" scumbags like Garza's highschool pal and BBFL , Adam Matlack (TOTALLY not Garza's accomplice  Wink), who were and still are running the Paycoin fraud operation.
50  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 07, 2015, 03:21:18 PM
Been a long time since I posted in this thread, just stopped by to say.... 

EDIT: I skipped like 40+ pages Smiley

Does this mean that you have abandoned your brilliant plans to salvage Paycoin?
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 07, 2015, 03:09:00 PM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam Sad

I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself.  I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer.  My intent is to protect buyers of their products.  If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.

This sounds like a reasonable explanation of your involvement in what appears to be a blatant fraud scam. I do however question your assertion that you "reached out to them" just recently, when you have already been named  by  Dr. Keith Harville as being part of his brilliant plans to sell valuable commodities at below the price which they can be purchased for.

Here is what I think is the first mention of you by Dr. Kieth Harville:

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  Roll Eyes

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

Me personally? I'm giving discounts on consulting.

Him?  I think he really does think that the XPY will go up significantly and he's bought into the idea that the future increase will offset his current losses. I'm pretty sure anyone who's offering to sell gold already knows it isn't a retail type of market. Notice that he's not using spot prices?  He probably has a local shop that can sell to him at a "FMV"-ish price and going to take a personal hit for 'the interim' until XPY shoots off to the moon.

I think its a bad business decision, but I've looked at some of the online links related to him and he's not going to have Mensa battering down his door any time soon... so, unjustified, idealistic belief in Paycoin is consistent with his past performance.


I think you are missing something regarding Gold/Silver pricing. Fair Market Value is what you can actually buy something for. Small purchases like a single gram of gold or a single ounce of Silver will run you maybe ~20% MAX over spot, and that is if you do not know how to shop around. In today's market you can buy locally for ~5% over spot prices for less than ~1,000ish and more like 2% over spot once you get up above that.  Beyond that the discounts to approach actual spot are very gradual as the quantities go up exponentially. What WhoCares is saying is that he is going to sell at less than he can buy his inventory for, unless of course, he plans on saying "Fair Market Value" is WAAY above spot and then give a ~5-10% discount or such, which then he is just full of bullshit and what he is stating is pure lies.

I typically do not post here, but wanted to make it clear.  If the Spot Price is $1200/oz for gold - and you see the price on APMEX etc is $1230/oz - you will be able to purchase it for $1170 on my site-- so that beats the Spot price and the FMV price from the major dealers/refiners- If you purchase a 1 ct diamond and the Rap price is $3000 and the FMV is 60% of Rap - then you will pay less than 60% of Rap--

So, continue to say what you will - the only person that looks ridiculous in this situation is you- because you obviously have no idea about Gold/Silver or Gems--

And to prove my point - I will personally invite someone respectable from BCT like OgNasty to check it out and make a purchase (with escrow) to shut you up- although that would probably not work either.

Lastly- You guys spend a bunch of time digging up dirt on people- Why is it that all of you hide behind your Usernames - I will venture a guess but most people already know the answer - because you are a coward


That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez,  contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville?  Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?  

Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.


52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr. Keith Harville announces "incentives" to lure "investors" into Bitstone on: December 07, 2015, 01:27:45 PM
It appears that Bitstonedev has missed this post, or perhaps has put me on ignore for asking questions about Bitstone. Therefore, I will quote this post here in an effort to get Bitstonedev aka Whocarez aka Dr. Keith Harville aka Keith Harville MD aka Kieth Harville aka Dr. Kieth Harville aka Kieth Harville MD 's attention. Since Dr, Keith Harville does not want to respond and explain the actual business model for Bitstones, I will also kindly ask the other Bitstone Team partners Van Mcminn of Van McMinn Jewelry Appraisers of Nashville, TN or Lou Britton of Auris Nobel Fairlawn, OH or even Rich Territo, if he is an actual real person. I will kindly thank whomever decides to respond to my questions concerning the validity of the Bitstone claims in advance, Thank You.


Hello Community,

Quick update on Customer Appreciation goods currently in transit.

https://i.imgur.com/3e7IbmP.png

https://i.imgur.com/jK7dGRZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/w4wrjeI.png
So as you can all see we have multiple packages on the way and they should be in our hands and marked with prices shortly.

Escrow has also been solidified and the Escrow Agent will post the conformation of this shortly.

Escrow even has a 5 BTC reserve as a backup fund for his protection and yours - the community -

After Escrow Agent makes his announcement, I will post the transaction posted on the blockchain showing this backup 5 btc reserve that was sent to this Escrow Agents PUBLIC ADDRESS.

Yes, this is going to be real deal....no games are going to be played here and customers will ALWAYS get their goods insured and delivered.

Any questions, comments, or concerns...please post them here.

There are a few select people that I have put on my ignore list, and If you have made it on there...there is a good reason for it, and I'm sorry but until those on the ignore list become a customer they will be kept on that ignore list.

Thanks,

BitStoneDev

Awesome. Please start sending out the "incentives" so that this operation officially becomes what appears to be a Matrix Pyramid scheme exactly like Gemcoin. I know, I know, the Gemcoin crooks claimed to get their "incentives" to buy Gemcoins cheap because they "owned amber mines", and you simply state that you can magically buy things for less than everyone else, but the "use our coins to get cheap stuff because we get it for less" aspect is identical. The United States Federal Government has determined that fancy fraud schemes schemes are indeed still just fraud (I know, right? Roll Eyes), even though smart guys like Dr. Keith Harville seem to think otherwise. Oh, and in case you are unaware, the Bluecoats won. Seriously. They can march right into TN these days, exactly like they did when they visited the Gemcoin crooks in L.A. Please do start sending out some "incentives" so that you officially cross the line and make this operation appear in every way to be a Matrix Pyramid fraud scheme. When you do so, make sure you call up Bitstone Team partners Van Mcminn and Lou Britton and let them know the good news! And, if anyone is curious about whether what Dr. Keith Harville is doing is legal or not, I encourage you to contact the SEC ,FBI, Tennessee State Police Special Investigations Bureau or even the Nashville Police Fraud Unit and see what they think. Please report your findings. I am sure they will all agree with Keith and put their stamp of approval on the Bitstone operation, right?

Oh, and in case you don't already have a shill lined up to receive those "incentives"  Wink, you can get a hold of your old friend from Hashtalk, Hellsgremlin. Seriously, his last employer for whom he helped shill for has been charged by the SEC and has had to cut his operation down a lot. Hellsgremlin is the perfect shill for you, and he has experience doing this exact thing. He knows how to get tweaked up until his eyes look like black saucers and still be able to make a video of him unpacking the "cheap goods" he received. It totally worked for Josh Garza and his Coinstand Matrix Pyramid scheme, so I am sure it will work just as well for yours, too. And, Hellsgremlin has no issue offering to do dirty deeds to detractors, either. Seriously, this is an honest suggestion. Think about it, this guy is perfect for your ScamBones operation.





"Hellsgremlin Shilling and Criminal Harassment Inc., how may I help you?"

P.S: If I am incorrect about seeing Bitstones being a Matrix Pyramid scheme, please explain. I am really interested in how you have determined that your brilliant "business model" is actually legitimate and legal.

Also, I just heard this song on WDVX, and I thought it is perfect for Dr. Keith Harville. * Except Keith has yet to get to the Enlightenment and Redemption part of the parable and instead is just rolling off into deeper weeds and picking up speed as he goes downhill......
 Enjoy your Sunday!

Also, here is a post from BCT member and Crypto Journalist Bitillionaire where he takes Dr. Keith HArville up on his offer of Silver @ 10% below spot value, and Dr. Keith Harville refuses to keep his word about his offer of selling Silver @ 10% below spot, even for one measely silver coin! Hard to believe the moron would not even send ONE SINGLE COIN when someone took him up on it. This was 6 months ago when Dr. Harville first announced his brilliant plan to sell Silver @ 10% below spot price.

I stated on the thread that i am not making any money on it - It is to promote Paycoin - There are a hundred honest ways to not lose money on a deal like this -

I am not here to argue but to show that people may have invested in the idea behind Paycoin - not Josh Garza - everyone assumes here that people with Paycoin worship Josh - that is far from the truth - Which is exactly why the thread states that it will be open to everyone not just HT users.  

It is apparent that a lot of people have been burned by Josh to have this much hate - but personally attacking a person because they own Paycoin is making a lot of assumptions.  There are some really good people that invested in Paycoin and have lost everything, what is wrong with me attempting to bring the price up and help those people.  Honestly, I think Josh speaks before he thinks and has harmed a lot of people along the way.  Having said that, what Paul Revere and others do by personally attacking me and others on HT has no place in this thread.  I have not scammed anyone and all I can do is continue to do what I can.

I am here to say that I would appreciate it if you could leave comments about me out of this thread - And if I do not do what I have said I will then by all means add me to the hit list -

I have no ill will towards anyone and hope that in the future when I have proved myself that you take the opportunity to visit the store

I'm game to try your service. Make me a deal right now in front of everyone. I'll buy the Paycoins through Cryptsy and withdraw them directly to the payment address. I hate everything about GAW, Paybase, Paycoin, and most especially Josh Garza, but metals lasts for the ages. I'll go easy on you, though. Just give me a penny weight piece of silver for say something reasonable. Let's say an ounce of silver for 75XPY?

But look. I want you to know that the Paycoin bears will win no matter what you think. I'm down to get some cheap silver but you should know that those XPY will be worth half or less what they are when I give them to you a month from now, less than that down the road. There is no floor but there is certainly a ceiling. Crypto investors are brave but not that brave.

Liars Lie. Dr. Keith Harville completely REFUSED to honor his offer of selling Silver @ 10% below spot. Even for a SINGLE coin!

If you want to trust this known liar, go right ahead, I will make sure to laugh.

P.S: I think this post in relation to a discussion about Bitstone with the totally not Keith Harville sockpuppet "Wheellocks" is relevant :

*snip*

Fascinating. I view an abrasive as a tool to grind off the scum to expose what is underneath. This is why I choose to be abrasive sometimes in exposing the fraudsters you call your "Family". If that bothers you, then are are probably scum covering up for fraudsters or a fraudster.

Have you talked to Adam Matlack (Is he the Father of your Paycoin Family?) about when he thinks that it will be revealed that he never had any "Friends and Family" who gave him $1,000,000 to invest in Paycoin, and that he was and still is actually an integral part of the whole Paycoin fraud scheme, enrolled by his highschool pal and BBFL Josh Garza? It is possible that this will come out during the GAW trial, but most  likely it will when the Paycoin specific actions come about.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 06, 2015, 09:43:52 PM
If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.

Are you saying if I buy BST and become a customer then "Kieth" will start paying more attention to "customer concerns" as opposed to just questions from the general public? I find it extremely hard to believe but I'm open to doing an experiment. How much do you think I should buy?

Whatever the threshold to be a felony where you are if the Bitstone operation turns out to be a fraud scheme sounds like a good amount. Your Doxx payment should cover it and then some.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 06, 2015, 08:41:03 PM
This fool doesn't get it. Got an answer for everything that is neither clever nor wise when expecting to conduct business or expecting to handle other people's money.

This guy keeps slithering around every time he gets caught. Says one thing, means another, when that is insufficient he's another meaning for the other. This is not a business man and this is not a serious operation, a get rich quick scheme fly by night operation. OG would be wise to divorce himself from all of this before it goes any further.

I would say that is about the size of it all right. The sheer delusion displayed by Keith is astounding. It really does seem like he believes that there are a lot of people who don't view him as either an imbecile or a lunatic when they read his (and the totally not Keith Sock puppets'  Roll Eyes) posts "explaining" this operation.

If I were him I would be more worried about answering some investigator's inquiries. I can see it now. pure brilliance in motion:

Investigator: Dr. Harville, could you please explain the financial model of the Bitstones operation and thus prove that there is a way to deliver what you are promising and perhaps thus exclude it from being a type of Ponzi scam?

Kieth: "Derp! Tongue  Grin Silver Bar! Grin Grin  EmbarrassedLIARS!  Angry Angry Tongue B@ING,Boing,  Cheesy Wink BB@ooooiNG! I'll pay 10 BTC for your identity!!  ShockedTongue  Picasso! Emeralds! Cry Imma gonna sell 10% below spot!!  zZZZoooom! That's it, your on ignore mister! BadinBaDOOinGG!@$!Innocent bystanders!  Angry Angry DErRRPP! Escrow!! Crimes Against Humanity!!  Cry Cry VRRROooooooo@@M! Vroom! Cheesy Cheesy Cool Cheesy Grin "

Fucking hilarious.  

I think you guys are taking this way too far.

Proof of shipping/delivery en route has been shown of the items for sale.

The most reputable Escrow on this forum has agreed to take on services as escrow, and decided to be paid in silver.  If he were to be paid in DOGE would that be any different?

People barter for services in business every day.  there is absolutely nothing  wrong with that and should not be seen as anything but an agreement of payment.  Do you think OgNasty wouldn't have thought that through?

He has the most to lose, and if he's comfortable with being the escrow, then I am comfortable using his services as I and thousands of others have done before.

Most of your statements are goose chases, and mean nothing.

Whatever your other shill account labeled "a" or whatever, hasn't posted anything since a one liner something about coinstand a few months back and it was just a link.

All of a sudden it's a Paul double with hatred, yet you insist that there are paid/bought shill accounts on here, but deny any of your own.

Paul you said "Hard to believe that the CEO of this operation will not answer questions posed by the customers from whom he is soliciting funds"  do you even have any intention to purchase an item here?  

If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.

People can make their own decisions without your "leadership" if that's what you'd like to call it.

You have spoken more than enough about all of your ideas and theories on this thread enough for people to decide for themselves.

I think you have made your pint about 25 pages ago.

Thanks!



Who isn't interested in buying Silver and Gold for 10% below spot? If it were real, your holdings would go up on an exponential curve limited mostly by transit time of your deliveries (wherein you would sell them for ~2% under spot and pocket the difference to buy more ScamBones and order more Silver&Gold. At some point you would pretty much own the entire universe with this model. I was intrigued by this prospect, so I decided to see what this magical plan consists of. My conclusion is that his model would require a "Mystical Gold & Silver Shitter" of some type to work, and also that he most likely does not have this Magic Mystical Silver & Gold Shitter (read: Amber Mines ala Gemcoin) that allows his stated model to work.  I have studied what Dr. Keith Harville has presented as a legitimate investment vehicle and my conclusion is that it appears to be a simple carney scam gone Crypto. I have clearly and repeatedly asked him to please explain why his Bitstones operation is actually 100% legitimate and legal instead of a likely  confidence scam. If you disagree, by all means, stock up dem ScamBones! Dr Kiefs Be Handins Out dem Sivva Bar Soon™ Bitstonahs! Ya!


P.S: Thank you so very much for letting me know that "I have made my pint". I'll be sure to think about that when I am drinking it later.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Dr Harville, can you please explain the financial model of Bitstones? on: December 06, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
This fool doesn't get it. Got an answer for everything that is neither clever nor wise when expecting to conduct business or expecting to handle other people's money.

This guy keeps slithering around every time he gets caught. Says one thing, means another, when that is insufficient he's another meaning for the other. This is not a business man and this is not a serious operation, a get rich quick scheme fly by night operation. OG would be wise to divorce himself from all of this before it goes any further.

I would say that is about the size of it all right. The sheer delusion displayed by Keith is astounding. It really does seem like he believes that there are a lot of people who don't view him as either an imbecile or a lunatic when they read his (and the totally not Keith Sock puppets'  Roll Eyes) posts "explaining" this operation.

If I were him I would be more worried about answering some investigator's inquiries. I can see it now. Pure brilliance in motion:

Investigator: Dr. Harville, could you please explain the financial model of the Bitstones operation and thus prove that there is a way to deliver what you are promising and perhaps thus exclude it from being a type of fraudulent Ponzi scam?

Kieth: "Derp! Tongue  Grin Silver Bar! Grin Grin  EmbarrassedLIARS!  Angry Angry Tongue B@ING,Boing,  Cheesy Wink BB@ooooiNG! I'll pay 20 BTC for the identity of you and your Posse!!!  ShockedTongue  Picasso!  Tongue Emeralds!  Huh Imma gonna sell 10% below spot with Bitstones!! Wink Wink  zZZZoooom! That's it, you're on ignore mister! BadinBaDOOinGG!@$! Angry >:(Innocent bystanders!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry DErRRPP! Escrow!! Crimes Against Humanity!!  Cry Cry VRRROooooooo@@M! 46%%!#!$! Vroom!ZZZZoooooMM! Cheesy Cheesy Cool Cheesy Grin "

Fucking hilarious.  
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Dr. Keith Harville announces "incentives" to lure "investors" into Bitstone on: December 06, 2015, 06:34:58 PM
Upon seeing the most recent post from Keith Harville CEO of Bitstone, it has dawned on me that perhaps he has set me to "ignore" and therefore can not see the questions I am directing to him, the leader of the Bitstones Team, with partners Van McMinn and Lou Britton. Hard to believe that the CEO of this operation will not answer questions posed by the customers from whom he is soliciting funds via an obvious baiting scheme.

I guess the answer is to have someone who isn't ignored by MRCEO quote this so Keith or one of the other members of the Bitstone Team like Van McMinn or Lou Britton can explain why Bitstone is not what it seems to be at face value. Here is the post that I suspect Keith may have missed during his time here moments ago. If you are unsure whether you are on the growing ignore list of Bitstonedev I guess quoting this would be a fair test to see.

Hello Community,

Quick update on Customer Appreciation goods currently in transit.

https://i.imgur.com/3e7IbmP.png

https://i.imgur.com/jK7dGRZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/w4wrjeI.png
So as you can all see we have multiple packages on the way and they should be in our hands and marked with prices shortly.

Escrow has also been solidified and the Escrow Agent will post the conformation of this shortly.

Escrow even has a 5 BTC reserve as a backup fund for his protection and yours - the community -

After Escrow Agent makes his announcement, I will post the transaction posted on the blockchain showing this backup 5 btc reserve that was sent to this Escrow Agents PUBLIC ADDRESS.

Yes, this is going to be real deal....no games are going to be played here and customers will ALWAYS get their goods insured and delivered.

Any questions, comments, or concerns...please post them here.

There are a few select people that I have put on my ignore list, and If you have made it on there...there is a good reason for it, and I'm sorry but until those on the ignore list become a customer they will be kept on that ignore list.

Thanks,

BitStoneDev

Awesome. Please start sending out the "incentives" so that this operation officially becomes what appears to be a Matrix Pyramid scheme exactly like Gemcoin. I know, I know, the Gemcoin crooks claimed to get their "incentives" to buy Gemcoins cheap because they "owned amber mines", and you simply state that you can magically buy things for less than everyone else, but the "use our coins to get cheap stuff because we get it for less" aspect is identical. The United States Federal Government has determined that fancy fraud schemes schemes are indeed still just fraud (I know, right? Roll Eyes), even though smart guys like Dr. Keith Harville seem to think otherwise. Oh, and in case you are unaware, the Bluecoats won. Seriously. They can march right into TN these days, exactly like they did when they visited the Gemcoin crooks in L.A. Please do start sending out some "incentives" so that you officially cross the line and make this operation appear in every way to be a Matrix Pyramid fraud scheme. When you do so, make sure you call up Bitstone Team partners Van Mcminn and Lou Britton and let them know the good news! And, if anyone is curious about whether what Dr. Keith Harville is doing is legal or not, I encourage you to contact the SEC ,FBI, Tennessee State Police Special Investigations Bureau or even the Nashville Police Fraud Unit and see what they think. Please report your findings. I am sure they will all agree with Keith and put their stamp of approval on the Bitstone operation, right?

Oh, and in case you don't already have a shill lined up to receive those "incentives"  Wink, you can get a hold of your old friend from Hashtalk, Hellsgremlin. Seriously, his last employer for whom he helped shill for has been charged by the SEC and has had to cut his operation down a lot. Hellsgremlin is the perfect shill for you, and he has experience doing this exact thing. He knows how to get tweaked up until his eyes look like black saucers and still be able to make a video of him unpacking the "cheap goods" he received. It totally worked for Josh Garza and his Coinstand Matrix Pyramid scheme, so I am sure it will work just as well for yours, too. And, Hellsgremlin has no issue offering to do dirty deeds to detractors, either. Seriously, this is an honest suggestion. Think about it, this guy is perfect for your ScamBones operation.





"Hellsgremlin Shilling and Criminal Harassment Inc., how may I help you?"

P.S: If I am incorrect about seeing Bitstones being a Matrix Pyramid scheme, please explain. I am really interested in how you have determined that your brilliant "business model" is actually legitimate and legal.

Also, I just heard this song on WDVX, and I thought it is perfect for Dr. Keith Harville. * Except Keith has yet to get to the Enlightenment and Redemption part of the parable and instead is just rolling off into deeper weeds and picking up speed as he goes downhill......
 Enjoy your Sunday!
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Dr. Keith Harville announces "incentives" to lure "investors" into Bitstone on: December 06, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
Hello Community,

Quick update on Customer Appreciation goods currently in transit.

https://i.imgur.com/3e7IbmP.png

https://i.imgur.com/jK7dGRZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/w4wrjeI.png
So as you can all see we have multiple packages on the way and they should be in our hands and marked with prices shortly.

Escrow has also been solidified and the Escrow Agent will post the conformation of this shortly.

Escrow even has a 5 BTC reserve as a backup fund for his protection and yours - the community -

After Escrow Agent makes his announcement, I will post the transaction posted on the blockchain showing this backup 5 btc reserve that was sent to this Escrow Agents PUBLIC ADDRESS.

Yes, this is going to be real deal....no games are going to be played here and customers will ALWAYS get their goods insured and delivered.

Any questions, comments, or concerns...please post them here.

There are a few select people that I have put on my ignore list, and If you have made it on there...there is a good reason for it, and I'm sorry but until those on the ignore list become a customer they will be kept on that ignore list.

Thanks,

BitStoneDev

Awesome. Please start sending out the "incentives" so that this operation officially becomes what appears to be a Matrix Pyramid scheme exactly like Gemcoin. I know, I know, the Gemcoin crooks claimed to get their "incentives" to buy Gemcoins cheap because they "owned amber mines", and you simply state that you can magically buy things for less than everyone else, but the "use our coins to get cheap stuff because we get it for less" aspect is identical. The United States Federal Government has determined that fancy fraud schemes schemes are indeed still just fraud (I know, right? Roll Eyes), even though smart guys like Dr. Keith Harville seem to think otherwise. Oh, and in case you are unaware, the Bluecoats won. Seriously. They can march right into TN these days, exactly like they did when they visited the Gemcoin crooks in L.A. Please do start sending out some "incentives" so that you officially cross the line and make this operation appear in every way to be a Matrix Pyramid fraud scheme. When you do so, make sure you call up Bitstone Team partners Van Mcminn and Lou Britton and let them know the good news! And, if anyone is curious about whether what Dr. Keith Harville is doing is legal or not, I encourage you to contact the SEC ,FBI, Tennessee State Police Special Investigations Bureau or even the Nashville Police Fraud Unit and see what they think. Please report your findings. I am sure they will all agree with Keith and put their stamp of approval on the Bitstone operation, right?

Oh, and in case you don't already have a shill lined up to receive those "incentives"  Wink, you can get a hold of your old friend from Hashtalk, Hellsgremlin. Seriously, his last employer for whom he helped shill for has been charged by the SEC and has had to cut his operation down a lot. Hellsgremlin is the perfect shill for you, and he has experience doing this exact thing. He knows how to get tweaked up until his eyes look like black saucers and still be able to make a video of him unpacking the "cheap goods" he received. It totally worked for Josh Garza and his Coinstand Matrix Pyramid scheme, so I am sure it will work just as well for yours, too. And, Hellsgremlin has no issue offering to do dirty deeds to detractors, either. Seriously, this is an honest suggestion. Think about it, this guy is perfect for your ScamBones operation.





"Hellsgremlin Shilling and Criminal Harassment Inc., how may I help you?"

P.S: If I am incorrect about seeing Bitstones being a Matrix Pyramid scheme, please explain. I am really interested in how you have determined that your brilliant "business model" is actually legitimate and legal.

Also, I just heard this song on WDVX, and I thought it is perfect for Dr. Keith Harville. * Except Keith has yet to get to the Enlightenment and Redemption part of the parable and instead is just rolling off into deeper weeds and picking up speed as he goes downhill......
 Enjoy your Sunday!
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Keith Harville confirms Van McMinn as being Bitstone Partner. on: December 06, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
I got distracted a bit and didn't make it to bed yet. I was wondering that since we have some guys here that know so much about Bitstone and Keith Harville that I would try to get the questions posed in this post answered. If one of you totally not Keith hiding behind a sock puppet Bitstone shills here can tackle this or "pass it on to Keith" (Wink, wink  Wink ) that would be great. Thank you in advance, and good night, and I mean it this time. Oh,  and please, promise me that you crazy Bitstoner supporter kids won't stay up tweaking your fucking balls off and making insane rage posts on the intertoobz all night like last night, uhmkay? Have fun, Buhbyes.


NextGen, are you refuting what the dev just posted, mentioning that the gentleman is aware of the situation, and his involvement as an appraiser? The fact that latter mentioned individual was contacted by you personally and claims to be completely ignorant to BST?

BST dev, good luck with your project. I hope it all works out. It looks like there is all kinds of attention swarming BST. Ultimately, this will increase exposure. Hopefully positively, so long as your operation maintains integrity and transparency. Smiley

He said he did some appraisal work for some "project like that" when I mentioned it was "like Bitcoin" and was not part of the team as was indicated on the site.  He's an appraiser he said, he will appraise for anyone.

There you go.

That's called a partner in my book.

Someone you can count on for advice and expertise related to what you're working on.

We are working on establishing a credible crypto currency with credible resources behind it.

Simple as that.

The old website was a rough draft at best...and I'm pretty sure when the link got leaked it was a "under construction" sort of peak.

The fact that its NULL and VOID now is a pretty simple thing to fathom, and the FUD will still continue...so jumping at taking the site down in 3 mins for some clowns doesn't interest me.

The site will be taken down, and anyone that cares to continue being immature can do so...No sweat off our backs.

BitStoneDev

So, you are saying that Van McMinn, of Van McMinn Appraisers, is a partner in the Bitstones Team in your book. Excellent, he looks like a great guy. Thank you for clearing this up, Keith. Looks like you won't have to do something silly like take him off of the Bitstones site afterall, as some fudders were thinking.Since you have such a man as Van McMinn as a partner in Bitstones, I think you should capitalize on his stature in the Gem and Jewelry world. I think a good way to show the world that Bitstones is 100% legitimate would be to have Van McMinn do an appraisal of the items you are touting as incentives and such for Bitstone and post it on Youtube.. The guy totally has the look for doing the Gem Network style of thing. It's perfect. Just have him pick up that bar of silver and the .pngs copied from the APMEX metals site and give his credentials and a great big smile, just like on the shopping channels. I bet he even has a cool southern drawl. It will go viral. I am completely serious about this. Given the right direction, maybe you guys could create something like the Gem Network or whatever on the Intertoobz and have the entire thing focused on Bitstone and hosted by Van McMinn and Lou Britton of Auris Nobles, who is also one of the Bitstone Team members. Those two guys would be a powerhouse shopping channel duo. Seriously. Think about it. You could just do like an hour a week at first and Google cast it or such. I bet that would take off bigtime. And make it huge discounts when people use Bitstones, just like you are saying. Think about it, this could be huge.



What a powerhouse team. Wow. I am impressed that you have these heavy hitters on your Bitstone Team, Keith. Well done indeed.

P,S: Does Van McMinn do fine art appraisals as well? I know it's a stretch to think so, but I thought I would ask. You could have him give an appraisal of that copy of my cartoons made by that Picasso guy that you have a print of.


What do you think? Can Van McMinn do an appraisal on that copy of my cartoons done by that Picasso fella that Keith keeps flashing around? I am very curious about how much a fake of my work is worth.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Why does Dr. Keith Harville have "random strangers" explaining his life? on: December 06, 2015, 05:18:21 AM
Paul,
I am sure people will make sense out of the fact you have posted a theory that Keith is trying to mislead people by misspelling his name.  Then you make post that show the misspellings.  ALL OF THOSE POST are about Batesville, which apparently he moved away from prior to Sept 2014 - or 6-8 months before any mention of Bitstone-

You fucking moron

Incorrect. I simply asked why he is doing this, and he refused to answer. Why am I supposed to believe what you are saying about Dr. Keith Harville?

Also: If you have been following along the GAW thread and such, you are probably aware that I like to keep an ace in the hole during these types of discussions. I bet you would love to know what THAT is.  Wink It is always best to know that you are going to have the last laugh, so please, keep posting your rants. Nobody will ever find out anything, seriously.  Cool

Edit to add: With that morsel left for you to digest, I must bid you gentlemen adieu for the evening. Sleep tight!
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Why does Dr. Keith Harville have "random strangers" explaining his life? on: December 06, 2015, 05:11:50 AM
Paul Revere,
I found references by people/patients of his on Google.  Since you cannot find your own info I will help you out this one time.

Please note the date of that post.  Also please note the 3rd line of the paragraph which states " I wish he was still in batesville so I could have him as my dr "

Please find some more worthless info to post about and then Misdirect and Misrepresent it





So it is ok for you, supposedly a random stranger to Dr. Keith Harville, to post things about Bitstonedev, aka Dr. Keith Harville, but if anyone else does that is some sort of crazy attack? Can you please explain why you believe this. I find these kinds of contradictions fascinating.

Oh- and you are getting the puppet account swap routine down a little better now. Good going, you get a gold star for the day, Buckey!  Wink
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